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Old 06 Oct 2003, 23:14   #15
little_dancer
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That's why I said I find hard to believe that Meat really thinks all people at JimSteinman.com hate hime

He didn't say that- he said 'trouble makers' from that site, not everybody on that site.

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Go ahead and think I come here just to start trouble

I never said that, IN FACT, I said just the opposite, that Meat was talking about 'trouble makers' from that site, not everybody, and CERTAINLY not you, I have NEVER acused you of coming here to make trouble, and never would.

I agree with mareielles post as well, and i am only trying to point out that:

1) Meat's statement was correct
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2) Meat was not talking about ALL people from the JS site.


Firstly- Why exactly am I, a Meat Loaf and JIm Steinman fan, not the intended audience of a Jim Steinman web board?
I will try to respond to your convoluted posting the best I can, in a respectfull way (something you neglected to do in your post to me)

The entire point, Evil, is that you disagreed with Meat's statement:

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trouble makers from that stienman site. They hate the fact Jim and I are doing Bat III, They go everywhere and causse trouble and some of you seem to fall for it, in fact the person who posted from that message could be from that site ,their here all the time saying nasty little things.

You kept whining that this was not true- please refer back to it as you read through the following:

1)Smeg's opinion - yes, however he also claims that good shows that Meat does are good because of 'messing around with the soundboard'--but Smeg's opinion can fall under:
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saying nasty little things
2)I did notice that you had responded in Meat's defense, by adding links to a post that Meat wrote in which he stated that it was for this board only. So you posted it on the Steinman board...against his wishes. I didn't mention that in my original post because I did not want it to be a personal attack, only an examination of Meat's statement, and it's accuracy.

3) If the Pim Stoneman post was a joke, what about the post in which somebody suggested that 'HE HIMSELF' should do Bat3 instead of Meat Loaf? and the posts in which it was suggested that Jim sing on Bat3? What Meat said is:
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They hate the fact Jim and I are doing Bat III
- this is still correct i.e a poster singing bat, or Jim singing bat-not Jim and Meat doing Bat- He's still correct here, YOU were the one who felt that statement was unjust.

4)Research? No, I'm just sick of you repeating ad nauseum that you feel what Meat said about about the people on the Jim Steinman board, is not true- any intelligent person can see that it is, finding exception to the author, or to a particular quote does not change that. I really don't want to spend all my time over there reading fick this, and fick that...so I apologize to 'John' for quoting him instead of 'Smeg'

5)What Meat said IS that people over at the JS site did not want HIM to do Bat 3, I realize that not wanting him to do Bat 3 is an opinion- Meat, nor I , never said otherwise. YOU are the one who CLAIMED that this was not true- (that Meat was not correct in his statement re: the steinman board)If it is people's opinion that Meat should not do Bat3- then he was correct in saying:
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They hate the fact Jim and I are doing Bat III
what the heck point are you trying to make there with it being an opinion? you are agreeing with Meat's statement? or are you still saying that it was unfair?

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Or that you don't really grasp the concept of a threaded message board.
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Oh, so we're insulting each other now. Sorry, I don't sink that low, Evil- because I see it differently than you does not mean that I don't know how to work a message board. I will leave it at that, you'll notice that I don't make comments like that to you, only address the fact that you say Meat's statement is incorrect.

6)Regardless of WHO quoted from here, obviously people from the JS board DO come here, or it wouldn't be referred.

And YES< the nasty stuff is an opinion- but YOU said that Meat was wrong in what he said re: the Jim Steinman board, and it being an 'opinion' does not make his statement any less true..it's still nasty- so he was not wrong about the board.


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1) start a little trouble down here by not getting your facts right;
You said that Meat was being unfair it what he said about the Jim Steinman board, I was demonstrating that he was not being unfair. Starting trouble? NO, just sick of you going on about how Meat is being unfair to the JS board- I let it slip quite a few times, but you don't want to give it up.

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2) go to other sites (you've quoted from them);
Sorry- am I not allowed to go to other boards? Meat SAID that the Jim Steinman people go all over the place. YOU said Meat's statement wasn't true- I am showing you that it is. There is nothing wrong with going to other boards- but YOU denied that it was happening by challenging Meat's statement, that is the whole point of my original post.

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3) say nasty things (at least, I find accusing people of things they did not do quite nasty)
I accused who of what, exactly? I have only stated that Meat was correct in his statetement re: JS board. I have not accused anybody of anything.

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So for all I know, Meat is refering to you too, since you fit the profile like a glove. Oh, that's nasty, isn't it?
Can't follow your logic here- Once again Evil, Meat was referring to "trouble makers' from the JIm Steinman board who are spreading'rumours' about him- I don't spread rumours about him, so he wasn't referring to me (please see intro of previous post) He wasn't talking about EVERYBODY at the JS site, YOU are the one who decided he was. I don't think he was talking about you either, as I stated in my original post. He was referring to the 'trouble makers'

Once again, not insulting you, only establishing that you are incorrect in saying that Meat's statement was untrue- you have yet to prove that anything in this statement is untrue:

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trouble makers from that stienman site. They hate the fact Jim and I are doing Bat III, They go everywhere and causse trouble and some of you seem to fall for it, in fact the person who posted from that message could be from that site ,their here all the time saying nasty little things.
So, once again Evil, which part is untrue?
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