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Rage Against · 14 May 2010, 16:05

Wow is my first response about this thread.

AndrewG I don't know you and I'm a newbie on the site, so I'm not going to judge you leaving or your comments. You are free to do whatever you choose (if you even see this since you are leaving).

I will say HCTB is a great album and I am enjoying it more and more each day. Rose, Madness and California are great workout songs and Peace and DYELS are fantastic songs as well. This album is not as different as others, Madness is along the same hard lines as BOOH, Lemon, Pigs, etc. DYELS is along the same lines as Anything for Love, COM, etc. I love the album now and will continue to support Meat in his endeavors.

As a fan of any musician, celebrity, sports team, etc.; you are not always happy with what they do, but you support them anyway. As a football, baseball and hockey fan; my teams have not won championships in a long time. I still support them though and will continue to support them through the worst of times. That's what a fan does. Fan is short for fanatic and fanatics are loyal, if not sometimes misguided in their support of that team or musician. But the fan in them keeps them energized with anything the team does.

What we have to keep in mind is, Meat is promoting an album and they way albums are promoted are different now than they were even five years ago. Youtube, Twitter, QVC and yest even wrestling have become a good marketing platform. Meat can't count on posters and radio play to promote like this is 1987.

I am a wrestling fan and have to say Meat's appearance on RAW was a treat!! I thought it was funny and provided a spark in my household. I was critical (in a humorous way) on another thread, of how Meat took the RKO. That's from the wrestling fan in me. The Meat Loaf fan in me was damn happy to see him in that environment (kinda like having my favorite football team playing on the same field as my favorite baseball team)!! This falls in line with Meat's personality and acting craft. I wasn't on this site when Fight Club came out, but I'd be interested to see if there were critical comments on his performance as a guy who underground fights and by the way has man boobs. I doubt if there were too many critical comments or as much backlash as his WWE appearance. And for the record, that's a damn good movie!!

I heard critical comments on the QVC performance before I saw it. I have to say, when I saw the performance, it was good. Let's put this into context: He didn't have a full band and he didn't have great acoustic surroundings. He was on a QVC set people, not in an amphitheater. He sounded fantastic on Opera Star and it wasn't that long ago. His QVC performance was good for a QVC performance. His voice didn't get bad overnight! Think about what you do for a living. Now let me add a whole bunch of negative obstacles in the way of you getting the job done and see if you perform to your normal high standards.

I probably won't get to a concert (for one reason or another), but I have the album to keep me happy. And I'd be very surprised if more dates aren't added. We have to remember, Meat may not have final say in how many tour dates he gets. He may not have final say in where he tours. I confess to not knowing exactly how the music business works, but isn't Meat technically an employee of the record company. And if he is, might he be at their mercy as to tour locations and dates? Maybe his comments on no European dates is a way of getting fans to let the record company know, "We want tour dates!!!!!"

I don't know much of the answers, but I do know I'm a fan and will continue to be a fan through the good, the bad and the ugly. That's what Fanatics do.

14 May 2010, 16:05	#39
Rage Against Guest Join Date: 31.10.2009 Location: The Dark Side Posts: 351	Wow is my first response about this thread. AndrewG I don't know you and I'm a newbie on the site, so I'm not going to judge you leaving or your comments. You are free to do whatever you choose (if you even see this since you are leaving). I will say HCTB is a great album and I am enjoying it more and more each day. Rose, Madness and California are great workout songs and Peace and DYELS are fantastic songs as well. This album is not as different as others, Madness is along the same hard lines as BOOH, Lemon, Pigs, etc. DYELS is along the same lines as Anything for Love, COM, etc. I love the album now and will continue to support Meat in his endeavors. As a fan of any musician, celebrity, sports team, etc.; you are not always happy with what they do, but you support them anyway. As a football, baseball and hockey fan; my teams have not won championships in a long time. I still support them though and will continue to support them through the worst of times. That's what a fan does. Fan is short for fanatic and fanatics are loyal, if not sometimes misguided in their support of that team or musician. But the fan in them keeps them energized with anything the team does. What we have to keep in mind is, Meat is promoting an album and they way albums are promoted are different now than they were even five years ago. Youtube, Twitter, QVC and yest even wrestling have become a good marketing platform. Meat can't count on posters and radio play to promote like this is 1987. I am a wrestling fan and have to say Meat's appearance on RAW was a treat!! I thought it was funny and provided a spark in my household. I was critical (in a humorous way) on another thread, of how Meat took the RKO. That's from the wrestling fan in me. The Meat Loaf fan in me was damn happy to see him in that environment (kinda like having my favorite football team playing on the same field as my favorite baseball team)!! This falls in line with Meat's personality and acting craft. I wasn't on this site when Fight Club came out, but I'd be interested to see if there were critical comments on his performance as a guy who underground fights and by the way has man boobs. I doubt if there were too many critical comments or as much backlash as his WWE appearance. And for the record, that's a damn good movie!! I heard critical comments on the QVC performance before I saw it. I have to say, when I saw the performance, it was good. Let's put this into context: He didn't have a full band and he didn't have great acoustic surroundings. He was on a QVC set people, not in an amphitheater. He sounded fantastic on Opera Star and it wasn't that long ago. His QVC performance was good for a QVC performance. His voice didn't get bad overnight! Think about what you do for a living. Now let me add a whole bunch of negative obstacles in the way of you getting the job done and see if you perform to your normal high standards. I probably won't get to a concert (for one reason or another), but I have the album to keep me happy. And I'd be very surprised if more dates aren't added. We have to remember, Meat may not have final say in how many tour dates he gets. He may not have final say in where he tours. I confess to not knowing exactly how the music business works, but isn't Meat technically an employee of the record company. And if he is, might he be at their mercy as to tour locations and dates? Maybe his comments on no European dates is a way of getting fans to let the record company know, "We want tour dates!!!!!" I don't know much of the answers, but I do know I'm a fan and will continue to be a fan through the good, the bad and the ugly. That's what Fanatics do.