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You can be a fan and still offer constructive criticism on the new album and the new songs
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No disagreement to that at all .. although being constructive is important, and perhaps waiting first to give it a good hearing too

And as you say when people try and second guess him indeed attack his motivation or character, that's going to provoke trouble and shouldn't be considered reasonable or something he needs to find here imo.
meat_loaf2008 wrote:
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We should not be degrading him by saying things like "thats what you always say" and the like....GRANTED, I do believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, but its like my grandpa always said: You can have an opinion, but you don't always have to voice it.
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A good maxim, particularly when you care about and support someone. I doubt Meat, who has said he welcomes constructive criticism of his work, would ask for more.
@ TheDoode
Perfectly reasonable thread imo. Reading some of the off-topic comments here, I say again .. welcome to the internet world of Meat Loaf
But thanks for moving them Rainer
And @ Mouse who wrote:
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On the other hand I agree that if Meat can expect support and enthusiasm from anyone he should expect both those things from members of his fan forum.
As a fan, i'm prepared to buy Meat's album without hearing it because I trust I will like it.
I've liked the vast majority of his past work and the chances are that I will like this too.
He's got a good track record, and if a horse had that good a record i'd bet on it.
I can't say that this is best since Bat, that would be silly as i've not heard it, but I can't bash the album either for the same reason.
That would be equally silly.
But I believe him when he says that he believes it's his best since Bat.
It's implied that he says that about every album, but the only album I recall hearing him say that about was CHSIB, and that wasn't a bad album.
I am sometimes surprised by things I read on this forum.
Doing something like blatantly accusing Meat of lying and questioning his integrity is IMHO (and no offence to anyone here) not something I would think of a fan as doing (unless they went to the Mark Chapman school for fandom).
If you dislike someone that much, why be a member of their online community?
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Agree with all you say. Balance, fairness and consideration is what it should be about imo.
Caryl