Off button is via start (round windows thingy, bottom left) and then the arrow / triangle next to the padlock picture, bottom right of the menu. Vista does take a bit of getting used to, and if you're used to XP you might hate it. But if it's replacing Windows 98 for you, it's a dream. All a matter of perspective
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excellent, cheers... used to xp lol
all the ballocks down the right hand side of the screen has been got rid off already... infact, virtually everything has been got rid off lol 4 icons on the desk top