Dance of the Vampres/Seize the Night
 

In the RAH thread occured a discussion about that topic, it think it´s important so, let´s start an own thread.
Here´s what happened up to now:

IMO the only person that really fits as Krolok was Steve Barton, on the german version as on the DOTV demo´s on Jim´s site.

Agrre with Multiply. I was heartily disappointed on seeing the pantomime that DotV had become.

That said, to me getting the chance to hear the DotV version of two of my absolute favourite Steinsongs live (STN & TIWIMTBY) was worth the trip alone - even though both were poorly portrayed in the show.

Of course they both came across as too-camp and hammy, but they were live incarnations of two of Jims children ... and even if they were runts of the litter after the rest of the production team ruined them, that doesn't mean they should be slated as much as they have been. They could have been better of course, but they could have been far far worse ...

I thought it was Crawford who turned it into the camp, hammy farce it became? The pre-Crawford stuff is wonderful from what I've heard. Barton looked and sounded the part, while Crawford looked like a nightmarish version of Willy Wonka!

Certainly Crawford had a hell of lot to do with it, but there were no doubt other factors too.

As I sat watching it in the Minskoff I remember thinking not long after Crawford had appeared on stage that he was playing it as if he were a vampire Frank Spencer ... and then everytime he was on stage from then on I was sat waiting for him to proclaim "Oh Betty! The Bat's done a whoopsie in the corridor"

I read somewhere that he just agreed to the contract to play krolok, if he´s got the rights to change his role to what he wanted to be.

And the fact that he played The phantom of the opera before, made him doesnt wont to play another of these dark, mystic roles again. So he made it to a more funny and ironic version.

I cant jugde it as I havent seen it...

I've seen a bit of Crawford performance on YourTube...

It was BAD...but not as BAD as that screeching bat of a female that was singing with him...at one point she hit a note that deafened me for days to come...

I am totally not surprised it folded on Broadway.

This is opera and belongs most probably in City Center Theater rather than Broadway...

I'll jump in here quickly before Ryan does.

DOTV would have totally worked on Broadway had it been left in it's original conception. Unfortunately some Broadway types try and put their own spin on things and in this case completely f*cked it up.

It was Crawford who turned Krolock into a gibbering buffoon, but the Director was too weak and allowed him to do it and the producers couldn't get the backers unless they got a big name, i.e. Crawford, so Crawford was left holding all the cards.

Not all the blame should fall on Crawfords shoulders, but most of it should.

Pud :twisted:

:nuts:

:twisted: I've heard bad things about the Crawford production :wtf:

Only Crawford fans like it...........hmmmmmmmmmmmm :roll:

Pud :twisted:

:twisted: He has FANS? :shock:

He had some fans at the time of the show...it gets hot in NY...

Some of his hardcore fans went to RR (probably just for freebies :roll: ) and said he was great, best thing he ever did (you following the pattern here :devil: you can imagine how that went down :lmao:

Pud :twisted:

:lawl: :lmao: I can imagine indeed the reception they got over at RR!:devil:

:lmao:!

As this was the most looked forward song of mine on the new album - it wasn't as good as I'd hoped - but that was due to it's predecessors.

Tanz Der Vampire's CD is the greatest piece of production I've ever come across in my life. It's truely perfect in my ears. I don't understand a word and I was rather hoping Meat could add the vocals to a production that was similiar to that. Unfortunately not, though, the track isn't without it's many merits. For me, the German version will remain 'Carpe Noctem'. The demo is extremely good too and Steve Barton has a voice I can believe belongs to a Vampire, Meat doesn't - and I like the Vampire's :>

p.s. I know the thread was dying, but I thought I wanted to make my contribution :P

steve barton didnt sing the stn demo, that was done by Kyle Gordon.
But it´s still a great song, in every interpretation.

You know, I put Kyle Gordon initially as that's who I thought it was - but I wasn't sure, so I looked up and all that comments were of Barton so I presumed I was wrong. Damn - I should trust my instincts more often as thats twice I've done that recently! :P

You are write, all incarnations are glorious in their own way.

Tanzsaal is my fave song from the German version, damn shame there isn't really a copy of that around :(

please explain what you mean:confused:

Ahh, I didn't make sense! Tanzsaal from the German version is awesome - I meant to say it's a damn shame there isn't a decent recording of the English language version of that. :doh:

aaaah...now I understand...
I think the fact that there is no cast recording of dotv speaks for itself :devil:

:twisted: But isn't it weird that Meat and Steve, the two people who are the best singers of Steinman material, are both from Texas :wtf:

And incidently, one of my other fav singers (Roy Orbison) was from Texas too :shock:

There's deffinatly something about Texas :roll:

There is definitly something about Texas...as Texan would say...

EVERYTHING IS BIGGER IN TEXAS

pretty woman, walking down the street, pretty woman, the kind I´d like to meet, I dont believe you, you´re not the truth, no one could look as good as you. grrrrrr...mercy

:))

It's not about the song...it's about the voice...Roy Orbison has a unique otherwordly voice...

You will NEVER in your life hear another voice like that...give him another chance maybe with another song...