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Mike Piercy 07 Dec 2003 12:53

Meat in Observer Mag
 
Meat is featured in the Observer magazine today (Sunday). Lynn Barber has written a 4 page article BAT MAN which contains pictures of Meat throughout the years, refers to his health and contains a mix of interview and history.

You could say it was a mixed review, but nevetheless good too keep.

Mike

Deb 07 Dec 2003 18:18

Thanx for letting us know Mike :)

If anyone wants to see it who couldn't get a copy i've scanned it and added it to my website.

www.debsmeatyworld.co.uk

direct link:
http://www.pumpkinpie.coldpizza.co.u...ne_7.12.03.htm

Deb

sherrie87 07 Dec 2003 19:19

Deb,

Thanks for posting it, but I have a question- when I click on it, it's at a readable size for about 10 seconds, then switches to a smaller version that is completely illegible. Any suggestions of what I may be doing wrong? :roll:

Sherrie

Deb 07 Dec 2003 19:32

Hi Sherrie

It's something windows does. If you go to bottom right of picture and click around it will come up with a magnifine glass type thing, if you click on that it'll go bigger again.

Hope this helps

Deb

martha_mae 07 Dec 2003 19:57

Hi Mike thanks for letting us know

& Sultonfan for posting the link

Vickip 07 Dec 2003 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by sultonfan
Thanx for letting us know Mike :)

If anyone wants to see it who couldn't get a copy i've scanned it and added it to my website.

www.debsmeatyworld.co.uk

direct link:
http://www.pumpkinpie.coldpizza.co.u...ne_7.12.03.htm

Deb

Thanks Deb :)
Vicki

mellis107 07 Dec 2003 21:05

Dunno why, but that article made me a bit sad.... :(

mike

DIZZY DRUMMER 07 Dec 2003 21:14

Nice large picture of Meat, but I'm with u - Mellis107 - the article itself made me feel sad, and slightly defensive about Meat. Don't know why, interviewer seemed quite negative (not what Meat needs now) :?

Lauren 07 Dec 2003 21:30

The way i read it - don't know if you guys agree - but the interviewer seemed to have the upmost respect for meats music and career but didn't seem to like the man himself very much. He seemed very cynical about meats sense of humour (regularly referring back to his 'lies') and made several (i thought unkind) remarks about his age, appearance and so on. What was expected after what the mans just been through!!!!!!
Anyway. i've said my piece now, thanks for listening.

Vickip 07 Dec 2003 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lauren
The way i read it - don't know if you guys agree - but the interviewer seemed to have the upmost respect for meats music and career but didn't seem to like the man himself very much. He seemed very cynical about meats sense of humour (regularly referring back to his 'lies') and made several (i thought unkind) remarks about his age, appearance and so on. What was expected after what the mans just been through!!!!!!
Anyway. i've said my piece now, thanks for listening.

Yes .. I absolutely agree with you Lauren.

Vicki

Kathy 08 Dec 2003 00:51

Thanks very much for the link. On the whole though, this article made me not just sad, but angry - from little things like the sidebar Steinman quote out of context, to the relentless references to the author's belief that Meat is over the hill ("grumpy old codger"?? Give me a break!) to outlandish statements like Meat can only sing "when he feels like it." What does that mean?? And the harping on the age thing again. How come the ages of lots of female actresses are totally unknown and no one seems to care, but every journalist that comes along feels the need to devil Meat about it ad nauseum. OK my blood pressure is getting the better of me.
-Kathy

ChrissybabezNI 08 Dec 2003 02:32

I agree that article had quite a bit of negativity

tbuck 08 Dec 2003 02:49

Well, they say any press is good press and it was a quite lengthy article.

While obviously not written by a fan of Meat, it didn't particularly bother me. The overall tone could have been different and more positive towards Meat, but the author wrote what they deemed the truth. At that point Meat probably was not fully recovered from his health problems. She could have cut him a break. However, I found some of it an interesting glimpse of the human side of Meat.

What I really didn't care for was her quoting John Aizlewood. His review of Wembley was CRAP. IMHO He didn't even know that Kasim was set up to open and implied he was sent out as a last minute change to buy Meat more time. Hey Johnny, do your homework :roll: when the stool is center stage, Kasim's opening! Aizlewood's review riled me much more than this article.

Thanks for sharing Mike and Deb. :D

T

meatfan 08 Dec 2003 03:53

Debs,

You are a STAR! :D

Heather.

rockfenris2005 08 Dec 2003 04:55

I could immediately relate with his comments about him not being as grandiose as he is on television. I had that experience in Melbourne, and it was frightening to see such a frail man, instead of the giant I had always envisioned. It's strange, but he's still a great soul.

DIZZY DRUMMER 08 Dec 2003 07:44

Who wouldn't be a "grumpy old codger" after what Meat has been through over the last few months. :cry:

Meat has run himself into the ground to do this last world tour. 17th at Wembley must have been awful for him and the fans there. give him a break :evil:

I personally think that there was no need to keep going on about Meat's size and appearance. He has always been big, we know that, but we love him anyway. It doesn't matter what someone looks like on the outside, it's what's on the inside that counts :!: :!: :!:

Sorry for the moan - but had to get it off my chest. :!:

Bart 08 Dec 2003 10:26

The article is not negative at all. The writer is jut confues about the way he is on stage and the way he is in real life. On stage he seems 20 years younger. In real life its just an old man. I am just wondering myself about it all the time.

evil nickname 08 Dec 2003 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherrie87
Thanks for posting it, but I have a question- when I click on it, it's at a readable size for about 10 seconds, then switches to a smaller version that is completely illegible. Any suggestions of what I may be doing wrong? :roll:

It's not actually a Windows thing, it's more an Internet Explorer thing: go to Tools > Internet Options > Advanced, and scroll down to the multimedia section. Just uncheck 'Enable Automatic Image Resizing' and all images stay their original size.
On the other hand, if you hover with your mouse over the image, after some seconds a big ugly button should appear in the lower left-hand corner. Push that one to get back to the original size.

Vickip 08 Dec 2003 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

It's not actually a Windows thing, it's more an Internet Explorer thing: go to Tools > Internet Options > Advanced, and scroll down to the multimedia section. Just uncheck 'Enable Automatic Image Resizing' and all images stay their original size.
On the other hand, if you hover with your mouse over the image, after some seconds a big ugly button should appear in the lower left-hand corner. Push that one to get back to the original size.

Thanks for the help !
Vicki

DebGreaves 08 Dec 2003 22:21

I agree Fallen Angel, its whats on the inside that counts not what people look like


Debs :D

little_dancer 08 Dec 2003 23:49

You are correct about that one Deb- but to be fair- HE STILL LOOKS GREAT- Once again, if I look that good at 52 (or 47 or whatever) I'll be quite happy!

The author, IMHO, was annoyed at Meat's comment Re: Journalists that she mentions at the beginning (which I can't begrudge him for) and just ran with a negative spin.

Regarding: 'Lying' about age and name- well, if that's as creative as the questions are going to get, why not make up a harmless story or two???

As a personal example- I have some large, pretty obvious scars on my chest- initially when people asked me about them, I said they were from a previous surgery yadda yadda and told the truth- but because they are SO OBVIOUS- people just keep asking me, usually complete strangers at the gym, on the beach, in the pool- In all honesty, I lie about them all the time now (my favorite is telling people that I was an assistant in a magicians act, and the 'sawing in half' part went totally wrong once :lol: ) I mean why should I keep repeating myself everytime I'm wearing a tank top? :D

How many times does Meat get asked about 'origin of the name' and age stuff??? Hell- if he didn't make up stories, he'd probably fall asleep in the interview!!!

The pics were lovely though...

Oh Meat, I hope you're feeling well!!

angel eyes 09 Dec 2003 04:01

All I can say is thumbs up for Meat - thumbs down for the "writer".

He is a human being and all the rubbish about his weight, lies etc was uneccessaryand uncalled for :?

I've been to a few concerts and he has always given 100% so I don't know where the singing if he feels like it comes from. 8O

Take it all with a pinch of salt Meat.

We all LOVE you!!! :D :D :D

Love

Angelxxx

Winston 09 Dec 2003 11:45

I'm with Bart on this one. I didn't see anything negative about that interview. Bruce Springsteen and Steven Tyler are mentioned by Meat so it can't all be that bad :wink:

CarylB 09 Dec 2003 14:49

I agree with Terry and Little Dancer .. I got the impression the the journalist was seeing Meat when he was still unwell .. before they realised what was actually wrong with him for so many years and corrected it? .. and his comments about British journalists sent this one into a negative set .. and if you're expecting to meet the huge larger than life character from the stage you'll often be surprised, because the man who takes him on there is actually quite shy and totally without pretension or "star" trappings.

It was still a great Sunday read :)) and some great pictures .. and yes, he must get bored silly with the same old questions .. if they eally want to know why don't they do what I did and check the Texas State registers of births? Journalists who can't be bothered to investigate!! .. lol

Lauren 09 Dec 2003 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB
I agree with Terry and Little Dancer .. I got the impression the the journalist was seeing Meat when he was still unwell .. before they realised what was actually wrong with him for so many years and corrected it?

Fair comment caryl, but it seems that the actual article was written after everything was cleared up so maybe the author could have been a little kinder when regarding the interview armed with all the facts?


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