Should Meat record every Steinman song ever written? Good idea?
 

Hi guys,

Well I was having a think (which is dangerous) and would anybody think it would be a good idea if Meat recorded every Jim Steinman song ever written?
I know, obviously, Meat has recorded a lot of Steinman's songs but what about the ones he hasn't recorded?

If they were all put on a CD would you buy it? Could it be the Meat/Steinman project that would be the reunion since the fall out and reconciliation over Bat 3? Could this idea be the conclusion to the Bat Out Of Hell thing that Meat has mentioned in interviews before?

What do you think?

I would love that, but I really don't see Meat performing 'Total Eclipse Of The Heart', but than again I never saw him doing IACBTMN, so crazier things have happened.

There are some that I think he would sound great on such as "Making Love Out Of Nothing At All"or "Faster Than The Speed Of Night".

I imagine that there are demos out there somewhere with him performing some of these songs.

I think Total Eclipse of the Heart would have an amazing arrangement!!!

sounds great, but youd need way more then one CD (maybe more then three!)

as for TEOMH, Patti being lead and Meat doing the "turn around"s wouldnt be bad at all.

If it's on a Meat Loaf solo album it would make more sense to do the arrangement from DOTV, so that ML could get some real singing in and he's not relegated to background vocals.

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I would still love to see Meat do:

-Tonight Is What It Means To Be Young
-We're Still the Children
-What Part of My Body Hurts the Most
-Braver Than We Are
-Making Love out of Nothing At All

The rest I'm indifferent towards :P Total Eclipse could be cool though if done like the Tanz arrangement that was linked above. It's more of a duet that way, and Patti would sound amazing on it O.O

Jim will never agree with it though, sadly.

I'm not sure what it is, but if Jim allows some of the horrible versions (Westlife, Kristen French) to be released I don't see why his most most successful collaborator doing a version such a big deal.

What I don't get is if Meat n Jim are still good friends (as ML claims) than I don't see why more of his material doesn't get recorded. I assume that it's still going back to the issues surrounding Bat 3.

it wont happen sadly:(

Why not?

It could be because of the bat 3 stuff or it could be because it takes Jimmy ages to write songs and arrangements.
If you read on Wikipedia on Jim's page it says that he has saaid he has written more songs and cant see why Meat cant sing them. So maybe it will happen!!!

The title to this thread is miss leading, I vote for it to be changed.

Thing is, songs like What Part of My Body and Still the Children have existed for around a decade now, and they still haven't really been touched outside of the Dream Engine performances in 2005 / 2006. I can understand why they weren't used for Bat 3, but that was five or so years ago now. The Dream Engine isn't doing anything with them, and I'll be very, very surprised if the arrangements aren't already done and recorded, collecting dust in some vault somewhere :shrug: Unless I'm mistaken, he hasn't really done anything at all since Tanz in the late 90s, despite the 'fact' that there's a Bat musical coming. I can't see why Jim is letting them rot when he's evidently not doing much with them. Apparently there's an official Dream Engine recording of What Part of My Body in existence somewhere. Can't see why Jim couldn't even just take the vocals off that, send the instrumental track to Meat and have him record his vocals on it. It could be done in an hour.

Meat has said that he wants to work with Jim again, but Jim doesn't won't to do an album right now. Maybe Jim is just unofficially retired these days and doesn't want anything else to do with the music industry?

Ok then so how do you change the title?

Sorted

Cheers mate!!! How did you do that?

All that he needs to do is give him the songs. Jim has only written AND produced 2 full albums, so he's no stranger to letting other simply do his music.

I came across this cover of "Nowhere Fast" (SOF version) by this shitty Rock band recorded recently. Assuming that they didn't commit copyright infringement, Jim is obviously licencing his music on a lower scale.

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Ah cheers mate!!! Sorry, what's the mod team?

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3252 3rd paragraph explains who we are and what we do mate

Well, as long as you pay the royalties, you're free to record any previously released song you want. No need to personally license it from the songwriter. Who may not even be the one who holds the copyright to the song, which could be owned by some publishing company.

Also, to the original question: no.

I can't see Meat doing songs like Ravishing, Rebel Without a Clue, Holding Out for a Hero, Tonight is What it Means to be Young, Safe Sex or Faster Than the Speed of Night in a way that does those songs justice. Unless Jim can completely rearrange them to fit Meat, that is. Which I don't seem happening anytime soon.

I thought that Jimmy was pretty anal about keeping rights to his songs after the whole BOOH thing where neither ML or JS were getting any royalties?. It was also a reason why Celine Dion didn't do 'Is Nothing Sacred'

He doesn't seem like a guy who would sell his publishing rights.

Is Nothing Sacred wasn't released at the time, so Celine had to work with Jim to get the song. More info on that here.

And Jim sold (part) of his publishing to (I thought) Universal Music Publishing.

Record of all of them? NO.
Songs like Rebel Without A Clue and Ravishing are fabulous. But should stay there i.e as Bonnie Tyler songs.
IACBTMN was great as the original ( Pandoras Box) but were Celine's and Meat's versions on a par.
If Meat had sung it first, then followed by the other two, we may be saying the opposite.
I think what I am trying to say is that when I like a Steinman original I am not always keen on it being rehashed.
When BOOH2 was released (great album though it is) I recall being slightly miffed when scanning the tracklist because of the duplication of old stuff.
So, yes, record more of Jim's stuff, but new material please!!

See I disagree. I like some of the re-recorded stuff. Like No Matter What, everyone heard the Boyzone version first but Meat's version was better. So it could be possible that they would be better