It don't mean a thing ....(if it ain't got that Jim)
 

Go buy Classic Rock - Where Legends Live
May 2003 £3 30p

IN A NUTSHELL -" Meat himself has successfully fought the flab, but this album could do with a visit to Weightwatchers" - you seen the general tone :x of this review

Quote "Like Laurel and Hardy and fish chips, some things are just meant to come in pairs. Unfortunately for mighty Meat Loaf, his other half doesn't always want to play ball."

Quote "Meat never quits, although the remainder of the album does. "Tear me down" is a horrible rock'n'nroller, and there's a horrendous live "Bat out of Hell" tacked onto the end.

I was absolutely furious at this review :evil:

Quote "He would anything for Jim, but he won't wait seven years between albums"


Reveiwed by Jon Hotten (This man talks out of the back of his a..e)

GGGGRRRR :evil:

That is not a nice review. Very hard.... but maybe there is some truth in there.... (i know i'm making enemies right now). But let's face it, an album that is made without Steinman is not such a great album.

The Butcher, tim

I quite agree - I'm still :x as hell.

Jon Hotten needs to be sent "Back into Hell" where he belongs

Quote "He finds writers who approxiamte Jim's style, and gives it all he's got. It never works" :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Re: It don't mean a thing ....(if it ain't got that Jim)
 

if you ask me i think that its narrow minded reviews and self centered people like Jon Hotten who stop ablums getting the reconision (sp?) that they deserve and stop them getting to no.1 in the charts.

Tim if you read the complete review believe me you will be madder than hell - Shall I type it up :??:

Still very strange, in some Dutch music magazines, Meat Loaf is portretted very good. With a new come back... 4 stars for the album... titles like "he came back, and how" and all that stuff.

So don't botter, reviewers don't know nothing about music and writing. They have had no education hahaha :lol:

if u dont mind dottie, please. :D

Yes, please type the rest dottie
I'd like to see the rest of what this brainless idiot has written :x

Aussie
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Steinmans irregularity is commercial sucide for a garralous man like Meat.Jim can't hit a record company schedule, he can't write three-minute tunes.A zealous perfectionist, he is unable to delegate. So nimble are the forgers fingers on the opening, seven minute CHSIB that one is hard pressed to say that it is not one of the great mans songs. Wondeerful performance from Patti Russo, Only the smallest details , a line that doesn't quite scan, a clumsy chord crash before a piano break - give it away.Its as good as this record gets, though- this is a long record.What the songs lack are Steinmans cleverness and attention to detail, his lyrical puns and inversions are always a joy, his use of musical motifs and phrases always beyond mere effect.
Meat never quits but remainder off the album does.Forever Young is surely a Michael Bolton parody, dripping in squishy schaltz. Meat remains a terrific singer - no one does quivering, unfullfilled lust quite like he does - and a marvelously baroque stage character.. But he is at the whim of another mans music and there is no escaping it.

Had to edit this as it is so long.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

D'ya think we should organise the lynch mob now??? :wink:


Heat
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This shows how much this 'reviewer' knows about music then.

I do agree that nothing can ever compare to Steinman, but that doesn't mean that nothing else can be good.

agree with tim
 

i must say i like about 5 tracks of the new album nobody gets as hurt as me when they start having ago about meat loaf than me. but i must agree with tim, nothing will ever live up to jim steinman as far as i am concerned, good album , but i know the meat laf fans are really waiting for bat 3. i know you might all be waiting to have a go at me now , but thats my view :?

I agree with Badger, Steinman writes great music and lyrics, and meat can sing them like nobody can, but i've heard a great many songs that have become classics and are performed great that are not steiman's or meat's.

So were does this reviewer get off with this nonsence. I think he believes every song should be ABABCB, 3 minutes long or else it's not music!!!
I get the idea that he thinks without steiman meat cannot make darn good music.......WRONG!
Totally.

Anyway my 2 cents....
Asha

Oh oh... Heat... just breath normally... don't think stupid or strange things... keep away from the knives... :lol:

Just picture a stream flowing gently through the valleys......The sun is shining and the breeze is blowing the long grass making it whisper sweet melodies.......

Meat's music will be played long after these reviewers are worm food!!!

Well said Original Sin.....

I'm wondering is he even listened to the music...
and not just to the arrangements, lyrics and so on.

To rate any music you should al least once JUST listen to the music....
Sit back, kick of shoes, relax and listen to it ALL......and not the pieces/parts of it.

Im with Tim and Greg on this one.
I consider myself a massive fan of Meat's and im totally behind the album, single, tour ect, but I think that most fans would prefer an album of Steinman material and that is what the reviewer is saying that the new album is great but as far as the music press is concerned a Meat Loaf Album without Jim is not as good as some of Meat's older material.

I actually Love this new album as I have done with every other Meat album but you've got to remember that the press will always give their own opinion and if they don't like the album then they are going to to knock it.

I think the point is. This is a great album but reviewers won't let it be good because Steinman had nothing to do with it.

Hi Dottie,

Furious!!! :evil:

Know there are a lot of narrow minded people out there. This is definately one of them. Sorry for him though, if you write like this, don't think you are a very happy person. Too bad for him..

Please tell me one thing, did he also say the bit that it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that Jim? Hope not, because that would be very disrespectful.

Well, of to throw some (old) plates on the floor as hard as I can, be back soon 'my happy self'!

Mariella

well said
 

well said ren angel i would like to say i got a reply from meat loaf when he was on line on bbc radio 2 that this tour will be a mix of chsib & old stuff so i am well pleased with that

YES! This is one of the most biased reviews I have ever read, usually I let this kind of thing pass me by - but I was furious - to read the complete review (which is a full page of bile) sickened me. Can I tie the noose please :!:

This is why the review infuriated me so much , that fact that the complete review is very long and time and time again the writer draws comparisons between Midnight, Welcome to the Neighbourhood. Blind before I stop etc., in fact all the albums which were made without Jim.

Re: agree with tim
 

Greg this is precisely what I was so cross about - Jon Hotten completely disregarded Midnight, Welcome to the Neighbourhood etc., as not worthy of Meat - But us Meat fans wouldn't be true fans if we didn't accept that artists need to spread their wings musically wise.

Well said Original Sin :D