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Canadian Cutie 30 Sep 2008 11:29

All of Meat Loaf's Music Videos on DVD?
 
I was wondering how we would start a petition or whom to contact to request for all of Meat's music videos to be released on DVD?
I was hoping he would have done it as a bonus feature with 3 Bats Live or In Search Of Paradise but he just keeps us waiting....
It would be a bestseller that is for sure and I am sure he and his people knows that so I wonder how we can suggest it to him or his management/record company?
That would be a real treat to finally have them all on DVD! :yay:

AndyK 30 Sep 2008 11:36

It would be great, but probably unlikely, Meat has been involved with so many record companies that to produce a single DVD of all of Meat's videos would cause huge licensing issues (and the inherent costs) for whoever was to produce it. Really can't see this happening sadly.

The Flying Mouse 30 Sep 2008 15:11

:twisted: Sadly, I have to agree with Andy.

If memory serves correct, there was supposed to be a Bat Trilogy box set in the works, but that was abandoned because the three record companies couldn't get together on it.

AndyK 30 Sep 2008 15:17

Sadly??

There's no loss of street cred for admitting I may be right you know :p

The Flying Mouse 30 Sep 2008 15:20

:twisted: You know what I mean :p

Monstro 03 Oct 2008 12:46

Virgin have a master for a DVD release but it was dropped because the various companies holding the rights to the songs could not come to an agreement, this was 1997 0r 98 if memory serves me right.

meatloaf-unofficial 03 Oct 2008 14:11

oh is this the "Very Best Of" DVd or VHS thats shown on Amazon, but can't be purchased?

I saw it on there a long time ago mind you :lol:

Wario 03 Oct 2008 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial (Post 440611)
oh is this the "Very Best Of" DVd or VHS thats shown on Amazon, but can't be purchased?

I saw it on there a long time ago mind you :lol:

That Exists. Saw it at my nearby record store for $89.99

Videos on the VHS include:
  1. You Took The Words
  2. Two Out Of Three
  3. Rock & Roll Dreams
  4. Modern Girl
  5. Is Nothing Sacred?
  6. Paradise By The Dashboard Light
  1. I'd Do Anything For Love
  2. I'd Lie For You
  3. Not A Dry Eye
  4. Dead Ringer For Love
  5. Objects in the Rear View Mirror
  6. Bat Out Of Hell
It DOES exist, but nothing too rare is on it.


Nothing real rare on them

evil nickname 03 Oct 2008 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 440635)
That Exists. Saw it at my nearby record store for $89.99

Screenshot, or it didn't happen. Heck, I'll even accept a plain old picture.;)

WhenItComes2LovingU 04 Oct 2008 16:42

Well, maybe there's something to propose to the labels in addition to that "Best of Meat and Jim" thing. Take "Hits Out of Hell," add any of the other "Bad Attitude" videos like "Nowhere Fast" or "Surf's Up," any BBIS videos, the stuff for Bat II from "Picture Show" (including the live performance of any Bat II songs not covered on video), any WTTN, CHSIB, what little was done for III, etc.

Show them that it has an audience by having many people write them and then wait for some sort of deal to surface.

meatloaf-unofficial 04 Oct 2008 17:46

any online petitions??

Evil One 04 Oct 2008 20:28

Something similar was tried to get Bad Attitude Live reissued and that didn't work.

carole 04 Oct 2008 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse (Post 440247)
:twisted: Sadly, I have to agree with Andy.

If memory serves correct, there was supposed to be a Bat Trilogy box set in the works, but that was abandoned because the three record companies couldn't get together on it.

Yeah I remember the Bat 3 Trilogy that was supposed to come out, I think it was for the 30th anniversary or something. I always wondered why it was dropped, hadn't realised that was the reason. It's a shame about the different record companies, I've always hoped for a DVD of all of his film clips as well and always wondered why there wasn't one, because as we all know, it would definitely sell.

Carole

The Flying Mouse 05 Oct 2008 00:08

:twisted: I dare say it's a case of who gets how much of the pie.

Bat Out Of Hell is one of the biggest albums ever, so Sony will no doubt value that particular product quite highly.

Bat II has also had a very successful history, so no doubt Virgin would protect their investment.

Bat III, not great, but it's early days.


So how do you split royalties between the three companies?


Sony would believe that the main album is the first Bat Out Of Hell, so would naturally want more royalties than Virgin or Mercury.

Virgin would probably object to being put in second place to Sony, but would no doubt believe they should get more royalties than Mercury.

Mercury, I dare say, will want an equal third of the royalties as they are supplying a third of the content (and bear in mind, their content is the latest release which they will feel is the catalyst for the whole thing).
Not only that, but as the latest Bat, therefore the one that hasn't sold 20 million copies, it's the one that people still haven't got and still might buy.


It's not a problem that can be solved easily as long as the companies are holding something they think they can make money off.

carole 05 Oct 2008 06:22

Yeah, that's some very good points, then there's the record companies for CHSIB, WTTN, Dead Ringer and others trying to agree on what they'd get as well. It's a shame as it would be massive if it could be done.

Carole

Wario 07 Oct 2008 22:07

This aint right. i Say meat and Jim alone should have the rights to whatever song he/they record. It Ain't CIR's, it ain't Virgin's, it ain't MCA's, it Ain't Universal's.

It should be Meat's. Meat should be able to decide what gets released with his name on it.

AndyK 07 Oct 2008 22:22

There's alot that isn't right in this world ... and much of the music business falls into that category. The record company own the studio recordings and promo videos, end of story, so any complete anthology is at their mercy.

RadioMaster 08 Oct 2008 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 441162)
There's alot that isn't right in this world ...

awww

WhenItComes2LovingU 09 Oct 2008 18:44

Actually, in the end, Sony owns most of the labels that Meat has associated with. Epic is a part of CBS, which is a part of the Sony family (BAT, DR, MATLAF); the RCA Music Group (RCA/Arista) was part of BMG, also swallowed by Sony (BA, and [in the UK] BBIS). That covers the first five albums. In addition, Sony also owns Mercury and the associated labels (which in the UK covers BAT III, and oddly enough Jim's label Ravenous).

So it's mainly a deal (at least where the U.S. is concerned) between Sony, Atlantic (which owns BBIS in the U.S.), and EMI (who owns Virgin). (In the UK, Atlantic, so far as I know, doesn't enter the picture because Arista owns BBIS there.) All three are big corporations, and therefore it's not easy to play office politics with these groups.

Evil One 09 Oct 2008 21:26

Let's be honest. It's just between Sony and EMI. Nobody really gives a fig about BBIS.

RadioMaster 09 Oct 2008 21:27

thats why some people leave the B and the I ;)

Wario 10 Oct 2008 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 441398)
thats why some people leave the B and the I ;)

And perverts replace them with two Os and a B and tack on an E and an S at the end.

Any which way, BBIS deserves to be cared about. I mean really, Meat performed Masculine for almost 10 years straight, SOMEBODY must've cared about the album.

WhenItComes2LovingU 10 Oct 2008 02:32

And the album in itself (yeah, go ahead, shoot me) is not a bad album at all. Some songs could benefit from better production, but many of them don't even sound that dated compared to most Eighties product. In fact, the same could be said of much of MATLAF, which could easily sell as a country rock album today.

carole 10 Oct 2008 04:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 441445)
And perverts replace them with two Os and a B and tack on an E and an S at the end.

Any which way, BBIS deserves to be cared about. I mean really, Meat performed Masculine for almost 10 years straight, SOMEBODY must've cared about the album.

I love that song Masculine, I'd love to hear Meat sing that at a concert. And yeah there are people who care about the album, every time it comes up on ebay, it always sells for a pretty good price.

Carole

carole 10 Oct 2008 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 441160)
This aint right. i Say meat and Jim alone should have the rights to whatever song he/they record. It Ain't CIR's, it ain't Virgin's, it ain't MCA's, it Ain't Universal's.

It should be Meat's. Meat should be able to decide what gets released with his name on it.

I agree, but like a few others say, not everything is right in the world, unfortunately those are the times we are living in at the moment. I mean Meat's record company released the 3 Bats CD, against his wishes and he didn't even make any money out of it.

Carole


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