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Pudding 06 Jun 2008 01:19

Only 30% Meat
 
Just read this and nearly barfed :barf:

The minimum meat content of a pork sausage is only 42%. The equivalent figures for most other sausages are around 30%.

The definition of meat is based on new regulations which came into force in 2003. Broadly, pork can contain up to 30% fat and 25% connective tissue and still be described as meat. Beef and lamb meat can contain up to 25% fat and 25% connective tissue.

The minimum meat content of a burger is much higher at 67% (or 50% for economy burgers).

So use your loaf and check the meat content before buying.

Pud :twisted:

djfierce 06 Jun 2008 01:49

yep unfortunatly its true, i used to eat loads of sausages before i saw a report on it a couple of years ago, now if i have sausages i buy a from a company called 'the black farmer' 100% pork meat, the difference in taste is amazing, theyre bloody expensive though so dont have them too often.It's just another reminder to read the label.

SamCat 06 Jun 2008 02:22

They are taste testing sausages on This Morning tomorrow(Friday) and one lot cost 2p each, which is slightly worrying!!

Pudding 06 Jun 2008 02:40

I'd rather pay twice as much for a good sausage than buy cheap and end up with gut rot :shit:

Pud :twisted:

wolfy35 06 Jun 2008 02:50

Richard Hammond did a good program about sausages a bit ago in the "Should I worry about" series. He had sausages from loads of places like supermarkets, hospitals, schools and butchers tested.

Two things that came out of it surprised me most.

The sausage that was supplied to the NHS as standard was the lowest meat content and the highest levels of fat salt and rusk. Of the 30% meat in this sausage only 10% was what I would recognise as meat the rest was skin or mechanically recovered.

Other slightly surprising bit was the cheapest sausage (supermarket own budget brand) had the 2nd highest meat content but the lowest levels of fat and salt.

LucyK! 06 Jun 2008 11:49

Agree with everything said here! I saw the Jamie Oliver thing last year about the sausages and it really bothered me, and a few years before I think it was Gillian McKeith (pardon the spelling, the divvy one from You Are What You Eat) who gave a rather graphic description of what's in burgers...killed me! Couldn't eat them for months!!

I really can't stand anything other than 'proper' meat though, I can't stand the thought of the fat in my mouth :? Up in the NE my Mum now only buys sausages from a butcher that sells only fresh meat...in fact if you go past at the right time of day you can still see the animals out the back :shock: Like Anji says, expensive but well worth it

RadioMaster 06 Jun 2008 12:02

the ingrediences of sausages and fast food is one of those things I rather dont like to think about.

daveake 06 Jun 2008 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy! (Post 414587)
.. and a few years before I think it was Gillian McKeith (pardon the spelling, the divvy one from You Are What You Eat)

She's worse than "divvy" - she's a fraud. She's not a medical doctor, she bought her PhD, and she's been censured for selling unlicenced medications. She claims to diagnose by looking at people's tongues and excrement, which is slightly ironic with the amount of excrement that her tongue helps her produce.

Can you tell I don't like her?

Dave

LucyK! 06 Jun 2008 12:54

lol I'm with you, I can't tolerate her, I can't cope with the way she bullies people into doing things. Some of the people on her show are unhealthy and do need the shock tactics kick up the arse to make them realise how unhealthy they are, but I think her methods are just awful

Paul191 06 Jun 2008 13:18

I think it's the guests, themselves, who apply to be on her show. Surely they should know, before the cameras are switched on, what they are letting themselves in for. Her tactics are harsh but it seems to work...

LucyK! 06 Jun 2008 13:22

Oh absolutely, obviously for some people her methods are spot on, but I'm not one of them lol I find her diets really odd too, there's plenty of ways to have a healthy diet whilst still eating 'normal' things, I couldn't live on seeds and lentils! I need meat!

Monstro 06 Jun 2008 14:48

<<<<<fighting the urge for a sausage sandwich!!!!!!

LucyK! 06 Jun 2008 14:49

Can go wrong with a good sausage sarnie...so long as they're decent sausages!!

The Flying Mouse 06 Jun 2008 15:25

:twisted: If you want to enjoy your dinner, NEVER wonder ponder theorise or enquire where it came from.

Sapphire Lady 06 Jun 2008 15:31

I'm glad I'm vegetarian :neutral:

~Helen~ 06 Jun 2008 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapphire Lady (Post 414617)
I'm glad I'm vegetarian :neutral:

Yes, I was going to say something similar...on the lines of...it's when I hear information like this that I realise the benefits of being vegetarian!

(as opposed to when I'm trying to eat out or explain to a friend hosting a dinner party that I'm also allergic to tomato [I developed the allergy after I became veggie, ok] - then being vegetarian feels less beneficial!! :?)

And lentils and seeds aren't always bad Lucy...! :-P I'll agree they're not always good either - couldn't eat just those all the time, that'd be very boring. One of the benefits (another one, although also not such a benefit when I'm feeling lazy) of being vegetarian is that you have to be so much more imaginative and inventive when planning meals! :D

Pudding 07 Jun 2008 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse (Post 414616)
:twisted: If you want to enjoy your dinner, NEVER wonder ponder theorise or enquire where it came from.

That depends on what crap you eat for dinner.

Pud :twisted:

~Helen~ 07 Jun 2008 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse (Post 414616)
:twisted: If you want to enjoy your dinner, NEVER wonder ponder theorise or enquire where it came from.

I'd presumed most people don't...I know Alex works off the theory that if it's packaged up and sold as food then it must be edible. So he eats it. I would dearly love to take that approach but I just can't, which is why I'm veggie.

LucyK! 09 Jun 2008 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 414696)
That depends on what crap you eat for dinner.

Pud :twisted:

Indeed, obviously we indulge in the odd Chinese or a pizza but more often than not we cook with fresh meat and all fresh ingredients, so no worries about what's going in there! :p

daveake 09 Jun 2008 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy! (Post 414835)
more often than not we cook with fresh meat and all fresh ingredients, so no worries about what's going in there! :p

Same here. I'm on an enforced diet on account of being diagnosed with stratospheric blood pressure a few months ago. Aside from my daily dose of pills, the biggest difference is that I now cook every day (pretty much), from fresh meat 'n' veg, and no processed food whatsoever. Amazing how much crap (salt especially) they put in those things. So rather than spend hours in Tesco reading all the labels, I just skoot past to the fresh stuff.

Oh, and Chinese food and pizzas are just about the worst salt-wise!

Dave

SamCat 09 Jun 2008 14:16

Unfortunately that and the fat content is what makes them taste so good!!

On the plus side the passata on a nice fresh pizza can count as one of your 5 a day cos of the tomatoes!!

LucyK! 09 Jun 2008 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveake (Post 414839)

Oh, and Chinese food and pizzas are just about the worst salt-wise!

Oh but it's so worth it! :p

I have IBS and really processed food just kills me. We were in London a couple of weeks back, stood in Piccadilly Circus at 12.30am and starving after a concert we needed something instant which ended up being McDonalds as it was the only thing open...fine at the time but the next day I could tell my body was attempting to digest something resembling plastic :?

daveake 09 Jun 2008 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat (Post 414844)
Unfortunately that and the fat content is what makes them taste so good!!

It's entirely possible to make food taste as good as or better though, without salt and lots of fat. Just ask Mrs Dave what she thinks of my cooking ;-)

That said, if anyone knows of a low-salt low-fat cheese that doesn't taste like a car tyre, just let me know :-)

Dave

daveake 09 Jun 2008 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy! (Post 414845)
Oh but it's so worth it! :p

Indeed, so I make my own :-). The problem though, as you say, is when eating out. That can get quite tricky.

Dave

LucyK! 09 Jun 2008 16:09

If we're eating out we don't do badly as we've usually got time to go to somewhere decent, it's when we're on the motorways using services that we crack! With Springsteen and Meat this year we've made the effort to make sure we have bread and fresh meats in the house to make our own before we set off...takes a little extra time but it's worth it, not to mention the cost of services


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