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AndrewG 27 Jul 2016 13:03

Meat Loaf vinyl collection
 
Continuing with my vinyl Meat Loaf collection since I finally bought a record player. I'm just really starting out from scratch. Have a few albums but not much.

This latest haul from eBay this week seemed really good value for less than £10 including postage!

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...42450135_o.jpg

6 singles and a whole host of clippings from the eighties. :-)
Singles are:
1) Anything for Love (7.50 min version) B side: Back into Hell (becoming rare I think)
2) Two out of three ain't bad / For Crying out loud (short versions. Seems to be a common Bat sampler going by logo. Same tracks as common Dutch single but this one without sleeve. :-( )
3) Bat out of Hell single: Bat (short version), B Side: Read 'em and weep (Rare? not sure. Must be later re-release because of Read 'em)
4) If you really want to single. B side: Keep Driving (quite common to get hold of)
5) Piece of Action. B Side: Sailor to siren (common)
6) 4 track greatest hits 33 1/3 7 inch single: Bat / I'm gonna Love her / Dead Ringer / Read 'em (common)

Interesting the 4 track single is indeed a single 7 inch vinyl disc but meant for 33 1/3 speed, so will see how that sounds. I've never seen one of these before I think. AFL vinyl seems hard to come by on eBay now if I'm not mistaken but have only check last few weeks.

Will play all this stuff later. Look in good condition. Can't wait :-)

Haven't look through all clippings but some interesting things I reckon.

ThatWriterGuy 27 Jul 2016 14:19

Andrew: if you're looking for vinyl that SOUNDS good (and trust me, there are some EXCELLENT sounding ML pressings out there), always be sure to ask the seller before you buy if it's AUDIBLY GRADED. Especially when buying from eBay (note: Discogs is your best friend -- you'll pay more, but you'll get 'better'!). Be aware of the MATRIX NUMBERS and which pressing you're buying, as later pressings won't sound half as good as genuine first pressings, as a rule (there are exceptions). I have a UK first pressing of Bad Attitude that was a complete and utter REVELATION. Sounds NOTHING like the previous CD releases. Absolutely incredible. And not a pop, click, or scratch to be heard anywhere.

What's your vinyl set up consist of?

Good luck with your collection!

PS -- AFL 7 inch is, (un?)fortunately, still quite common to come across.

AndrewG 27 Jul 2016 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy (Post 615501)
Andrew: if you're looking for vinyl that SOUNDS good (and trust me, there are some EXCELLENT sounding ML pressings out there), always be sure to ask the seller before you buy if it's AUDIBLY GRADED. Especially when buying from eBay (note: Discogs is your best friend -- you'll pay more, but you'll get 'better'!). Be aware of the MATRIX NUMBERS and which pressing you're buying, as later pressings won't sound half as good as genuine first pressings, as a rule (there are exceptions). I have a UK first pressing of Bad Attitude that was a complete and utter REVELATION. Sounds NOTHING like the previous CD releases. Absolutely incredible. And not a pop, click, or scratch to be heard anywhere.

What's your vinyl set up consist of?

Good luck with your collection!

PS -- AFL 7 inch is, (un?)fortunately, still quite common to come across.

Thanks for the tips. Wasn't sure about AFL, but given how big the song was surprised at lack of auctions on eBay for it. There seem to be more versions and auctions for Blind Before I Stop! Have been on Discogs before. Bizarrely the 12 inch version for AFL still doesn't include the full length song.

Have the basic AT LP-120USB playing through my computer via USB and Yamaha studio speakers. But will get a proper amp with dedicated speakers later when I sort out another room in the house for music listening.

evil nickname 27 Jul 2016 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 615500)
2) Two out of three ain't bad / For Crying out loud (short versions. Seems to be a common Bat sampler going by logo. Same tracks as common Dutch single but this one without sleeve. :-( )

Looks like it's the UK version. I've got a copy of the US version, which has the album version of TOoTAB. That Bat Label was also used on various other singles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 615500)
3) Bat out of Hell single: Bat (short version), B Side: Read 'em and weep (Rare? not sure. Must be later re-release because of Read 'em)

Bat was re-released as a single in 1993 (as was Paradise). Not that hard to find.

ThatWriterGuy 27 Jul 2016 14:39

The AT-LP 120 isn't a bad beginner TT at all, but you might want to upgrade the cart to get the max benefit out of the medium. Shoot me a PM sometime if you need any advice, and I'll try and help you navigate through the minefield of first time (??) TT/vinyl usage/buying/care.

In the meantime -- enjoy!! And listen to ML for what will sound like the FIRST TIME all over again!

proctorloaf 27 Jul 2016 23:20

Desperately seeking Welcome to the Neighbourhood LP if anyone comes across it :) ax

ThatWriterGuy 27 Jul 2016 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 615533)
Desperately seeking Welcome to the Neighbourhood LP if anyone comes across it :) ax

Picked one up from a Virgin megastore in Edinburgh in 2002 ... for £1.

AndrewG 28 Jul 2016 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy (Post 615534)
Picked one up from a Virgin megastore in Edinburgh in 2002 ... for £1.

You should have bought 100. :lol: You could make a tasty profit now I bet for unopened ones. Funny how back then records were regarded as useless by so many.

proctorloaf 28 Jul 2016 08:42

I was 15 and all into CDs in 2002 :P

AndrewG 28 Jul 2016 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 615546)
I was 15 and all into CDs in 2002 :P

I agree with what I read somewhere last night that CDs are quite office like. They can give off a cold, businessy feeling looking at them. :(

Looking out some vinyl fairs to go to, but there are not many in my direct area it seems. Need to get to the bigger cities.

Guy 28 Jul 2016 10:05

Being collecting ML stuff since I was about 15
Vinyl will always be king in my eyes

Monstro 31 Jul 2016 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 615533)
Desperately seeking Welcome to the Neighbourhood LP if anyone comes across it :) ax

Keep checking ebay, discogs, expect to pay between £10 - £35. It comes up quite often.

tonyloaf 31 Jul 2016 11:18

CHSIB is the one in after

samurai7 02 Aug 2016 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyloaf (Post 615635)
CHSIB is the one in after

Apart from I think two people here maybe, it's the same for us all. Been after that one a while now.

LucyK! 02 Aug 2016 22:02

I know of about 6 people that have chsib...and one of them is me so really it's only 5 lol

Monstro 02 Aug 2016 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by samurai7 (Post 615694)
Apart from I think two people here maybe, it's the same for us all. Been after that one a while now.

Insert smug faced emoji "here"

ThatWriterGuy 02 Aug 2016 22:40

Better add me to that pile .... twice!!

Vickip 02 Aug 2016 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by LucyK! (Post 615696)
I know of about 6 people that have chsib...and one of them is me so really it's only 5 lol

You can count me as one of those 5 :D I even had Meat autograph the cover for me and it looks amazing hanging on my wall :cool::D

tonyloaf 05 Aug 2016 15:11

So the hunt continues !

ThatWriterGuy 05 Aug 2016 16:31

So Andrew - how does that little haul sound?

Guy 06 Aug 2016 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by LucyK! (Post 615696)
I know of about 6 people that have chsib...and one of them is me so really it's only 5 lol

I know of 1 person....I think, that has 2

rockfenris2005 26 Aug 2016 16:22

I was offered a copy of CHSIB (LP) by someone HERE. But in the end I couldn't take it as I was just beginning to go through a rough patch where I couldn't afford it. If that had happened today, I would have taken it. But even then, it would feel weird without Hell in a Handbasket on vinyl. Couldn't they release one now? Sigh.

AndrewG 26 Aug 2016 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005 (Post 616238)
I was offered a copy of CHSIB (LP) by someone HERE. But in the end I couldn't take it as I was just beginning to go through a rough patch where I couldn't afford it. If that had happened today, I would have taken it. But even then, it would feel weird without Hell in a Handbasket on vinyl. Couldn't they release one now? Sigh.

I guess it will depend on all album sales but quite a few classic albums are re-released on Vinyl now I've noticed since the resurge in vinyl interest. I got Alanis Morisette's Jagged Little Pill which was re-released on vinyl a few years ago. Sound quality is excellent. Springsteen's first 7 albums were re-released in a box set and all of Phil Collins' studio albums were re-released too. I'm looking to also get some of the re-released albums of Michael Jackson on vinyl. And I'm sure tons of stuff I'm not so fussed about is re-released too.

I could see them re-releasing Bat 2 (the original is a single atrocious vinyl. I've not even tried playing it but doubt there is much point. If it is as bad or worse than the 8 minute crammed copy of AFL on 7inch 45 I got it's just unbearable) and maybe Bat 3 but the others I'm not so sure about. Obviously it would be nice if everyone who wanted could get CHSIB and Handbasket on vinyl too.

I just got a second hand vinyl copy of Welcome to the neighbourhood. Even that seems a little tricky to get now.
Hope I can get CHSIB one day but I'm certainly not counting on it.

AndrewG 26 Aug 2016 17:01

It's actually surprising it was much easier to get the likes of Bad for Good and Pandora's Box on second hand vinyl. I guess the interest isn't as competitive but then surely the amount of vinyl pressings should/would be lower than these major Meat Loaf releases? Bizarre.

rockfenris2005 26 Aug 2016 21:58

WttN felt tricky to me about 7 years ago when I bought it... from Japan? It was some place like that. It just came up one day in a search. It was in Japan importing worldwide. I thought, well WOW. I'll grab that then!! Wasn't inordinately expensive either!! And there it was. What a sight to see getting that package and opening it up, I can tell you now. I never bought Bat 3. I was going to get that if I ever got CHSIB haha.

rockfenris2005 26 Aug 2016 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 616240)
It's actually surprising it was much easier to get the likes of Bad for Good and Pandora's Box on second hand vinyl. I guess the interest isn't as competitive but then surely the amount of vinyl pressings should/would be lower than these major Meat Loaf releases? Bizarre.

Well, the CHSIB vinyl was ONLY released in Germany, I believe.

AndrewG 26 Aug 2016 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005 (Post 616242)
Well, the CHSIB vinyl was ONLY released in Germany, I believe.

Yes I think Lucy pointed that out on here before. I've noticed on discogs many vinyl albums specifically not being released in the UK. Perhaps the take up was even less here than anywhere else.

Also to counteract my unavailability thing I guess Pandora's Box and bad for good were released in the 80s hence a lot more copies would have been produced. It is interesting though that for many big albums coming out now it seems vinyl is almost always an option.

I have Bat 3 on vinyl but have not played it yet. I got it of a woman locally who never played that or her copy of bat 2 which I bought too. I read about the latter being terrible on discogs since it is such a dense single record press fitting almost 40 minutes on each side. The volume is then reduced to make it fit and going by experience from the AFL single at least my turntable will present a terrible pre-echo (of the next groove I guess) which is very apparent during soft musical parts.

In contrast I also have a 12 inch album I bought from another artist recently which was done at 45rpm (double vinyl) to improve sound quality even more. Strangely I'm finding many new factory wrapped vinyls come with a lot of static straight out of the original sleeve. I've been investigating how to get rid of that and already found some ways but it is a bit disappointing since many second hand ones I've ordered through the internet don't have this problem so much.

Kirst 27 Aug 2016 11:54

Playing vinyl
 
Hi, can I ask those of you that play your vinyl what you use? I need a new record player but am finding it hard as most of them are for recording to MP3 these days. I need something stand alone that has good sound. Thanks

ThatWriterGuy 27 Aug 2016 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 616244)
Strangely I'm finding many new factory wrapped vinyls come with a lot of static straight out of the original sleeve. I've been investigating how to get rid of that and already found some ways but it is a bit disappointing since many second hand ones I've ordered through the internet don't have this problem so much.

Anti-static brush and an acrylic platter - change over your standard record sleeves for anti-stat liners, and you should be good to go.

ThatWriterGuy 27 Aug 2016 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirst (Post 616249)
Hi, can I ask those of you that play your vinyl what you use? I need a new record player but am finding it hard as most of them are for recording to MP3 these days. I need something stand alone that has good sound. Thanks

The bare minimum I'd recommend to get the benefit of vinyl:

1. Pro-ject Carbon Debut Esprit turntable (Or a Rega RP8 if you can stretch that far).
2. Ortofon Blue cartridge (bare minimum).
3. Cambridge 651A Amp (or equivalent).
4. Musical Fidelity V90 LPS phono stage
5. Wharfedale Diamond 220 speakers (bare minimum).

This set up will deliver these albums like you've never heard them before.

Get some good cable, and you're good to go.

EDIT: only just noticed that you said 'stand alone'. If you're looking for an 'all in one', forget it -- it'll sound better on mp3.

Vickip 27 Aug 2016 18:08

On another note, they're already listing vinyl copies of Braver Than We Are on Ebay :( They won't be shipped until after the CD is released .... but the prices are outrageous !

AndrewG 27 Aug 2016 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 616253)
On another note, they're already listing vinyl copies of Braver Than We Are on Ebay :( They won't be shipped until after the CD is released .... but the prices are outrageous !

Lol somebody's trying to sell them for £80. Good luck with that. :lol:

Vickip 28 Aug 2016 02:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 616254)
Lol somebody's trying to sell them for £80. Good luck with that. :lol:

Exactly :lol:

Kev 31 Aug 2016 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 615533)
Desperately seeking Welcome to the Neighbourhood LP if anyone comes across it :) ax

I have it!

AndrewG 31 Aug 2016 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 616333)
I have it!

Is this an invitation to bidding for it? ;)

AndrewG 11 Dec 2016 03:12

A copy of Neighbourhoud just went up on Discogs.
$900!

Posting here in case anyone is interested.

Too much for me to consider.
Happy with my almost complete Meat Loaf album vinyl collection (everything except Neighbourhood and Teddy Bear - don't particularly like that album anyway).

It's enough I think.

rockfenris2005 11 Dec 2016 10:32

That's ridiculous! I paid like $65 or something on eBay (albeit back in 2009 but still.)

proctorloaf 26 Dec 2016 11:54

Just bought it on Amazon for £40

AndrewG 26 Dec 2016 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 619795)
Just bought it on Amazon for £40

2nd hand neighbourhood for that little? :shock:
Congrats!

AndrewG 29 Dec 2016 17:15

Just received an unplayed mint condition copy of the holy grail.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...33&oe=58EDC9F6

The only vinyl album missing is Teddy Bear but I can live without that one. ;-)

Think my collection is thus pretty much complete. Might still go after the odd single but I've got most of the best quality ones it seems (12 inch 45s and 33s). Only some 45s remaining but many appear lousy quality from what I've heard so far due to cramming too much on such small discs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 619795)
Just bought it on Amazon for £40

I looked back in my records and I paid €65 for that one in August so you got a good deal for sure.


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