117. California Dreamin'
This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic.
Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!! California Dreamin' (5) I'm not a fan of covered songs, except Knockin' On Heaven's Door by Guns and Stand By Me by Meat. This song is far from the original one what is not my cup of tea either. The saxophone is great, Patti's voice is perfect, Meat's voice doesn't fit on it. My score: 5 |
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6. Love the arrangement (and I think it's light years beyond the original), but Meat's voice is too powerful for the song and whatever was done to Patti's voice doesn't agree with me. Brilliant saxophone work, though. Meat needs to use more sax in general :P
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Simply and clearly - good job Meat :!:
- I like covers done by Meat like: "It's All Coming Back To Me Now", "Bad For Good", "Left In The Dark", "Out Of The Frying Pan", "Lost Boys And Golden Girls", "Surf's Up" or non-Steinman like "Black Betty". - Saxophone is a brilliant idea. - Patti Russo did an amazing job. - "Hell In A Handbasket" is on the 3rd position in my private ranking of Meat's albums. - Meat's voice is perfect now :up: ... at least to me (and perhaps to many other fans). Score: 9,5/10 :cool: |
This song is brilliant to me.
I was not a fan of the original, so I was curious to see what Meat and company would bring to the table, and I think they hit it out of the park on this one. They were able to take something old and make it new again, and IMHO they made it better. Love the vocals from both Meat and Patti, and also love the fact that Dave Luther really gets to shine on this track. 10/10 from me. |
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10/10 from me :-) |
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Meat's voice is perfect now :up: ... at least to me (and perhaps to many other fans). yes, i love meat's voice and ever loved it :D |
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White of high : Is there 1 song that you DO like on that album ?????? California dreamin', Meat and Patti's version is awesome, they bring out the true meaning of that song.
So again... it deserves a 10 to me !! |
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Some people just can't handle the new direction |
I'll admit I wasn't very fond of it on first listen, but it grew on me over time. It's a solid "like" for me.
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Love tihs cover!!! IMO this song is Meat's best cover of a well known song and it's the best song on the album and his best vocal on the album. The production is AMAZING on this song.
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I think what Meat's done with the track is awesome. It's a song about depression, and it really comes through with this version, especially given the broken, haunted tone they've gone for. The only thing that bothers me - I wish Meat would've used a more restrained vocal, particularly at the beginning. But hey, that's just me. |
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For me, if I thoroughly enjoy listening to a song and would not have it changed, it works perfectly and meets all my requirements .. so why should I not say so? I personally find grading systems will always encourage some people to never give full marks, and have never understood this. As for eg when I ask managers who have graded a piece of work 9 out of 10 what could be done or changed to improve it, they say .. "Nothing. Its great. But I never give 10s" :lol: I do ;) Caryl |
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HIAHB is the only album of Meat has no great songs to me. The entire album is average to me with a few very bad attempts. On HCTB I loved Song Of Madness, on Bat3 I loved Land Of The Pigs, on CHSIB I loved the title song, etc. Answer to CarylB... I think give 10 to all songs is folly. Is Burning Down 10 to you? Or Wolf At Your Door, or Do It! is really 10 and good as For Crying Out Loud with big orchestra? I think lot of fan give10 because a fan has to give 10 to all songs of her/his idol. Fans control idols and if you don't criticize your idol you dig his tomb... |
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I did not say I give all songs 10, I said that for me, if I thoroughly enjoy listening to a song and would not have it changed, it works perfectly and meets all my requirements .. When that is the case I rate 10. Quote:
I do not compare songs. You don't see me posting what is my favourite track, or best track. Each has its place, its style, tempo and appeal. I consider them on how they appeal to me, not one against the other. I do not have "a favourite" Meat Loaf song .. except perhaps the one I'm listening to at any given time, because I enjoy hearing Meat sing, and value the effort that has gone into bringing it to me. This is even more the case for HCTB and HIAH, which to me are each a whole piece of work, with each song leading from and to the next, and that whole is greater than the sum of the parts. As was the case with CHSIB for me. Ask me how I rate a song I will tell you, whether it is in accord with your view or not. Ask me to rate it in comparison to others and I will say that is generally impossible for me. Quote:
That he continues to creatively explore new styles, push against barriers and cross into new territory is to me far more exciting than if he stayed with the same style. To me that's what makes him special, enduring and the performer he is. I was stunned when I first heard HCTB; swept away just as I was when I first heard BOOH. HIAH strikes a chord with me in 2012 that BOOH probably couldn't, although it certainly did in 1978, and I still love to hear him sing those songs. CHSIB did the same when it came out; gone was the youthful angst, these were the songs of late summer, from the perspective of a man who has been around the block of love and back, with a maturity I loved. But that's how it should be imo, and for me it is. Over the years some of his explorations have not been as exciting as when BOOH was unleashed, but CHSIB was, and now HCTB and HIAH are for me .. in spades! He promised a new adventure, and for me he is delivering it 100% .. or 10 out of 10 ;) Caryl |
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As for low or high ratings. It's very personal. Either you love, for example, the Steinman/Loaf combination so much that other songs have a hard time to match that, or you love the way that Meat has chosen a new direction. Away from his older style. There is no wrong or right in giving high or low grates. Although I believe that giving 1's or 10's is always over the top. With a 1 you're basically saying that NOTHING is right about a song. With a 10 you're saying "This is PERFRECT" and can't be improved in any way. I doubt both ratings every time I see it. Then again, for one or two songs a rating like this could be possible. But ratings like that should be rare ;) |
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i didn't mean that, but as meat says california dreaming is not a happy holiday song, ... it is about fear and someone not following his dreams ... i meant the whole meaning of the song. that's my point. |
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