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White of High 14 Nov 2002 19:21

29. Surf's Up
 
This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic.
Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!!

Surf's Up (9)

I think this is the best song on this album. It's a fantastic ballad. I wonder that feeling breaks out of the music - step by step. The lyrics is following the music. The best line is:

"I'm gonna give you what I'm hopin' you'll be givin' to me"

The rhymes are tinkling, the music is stronger and stronger...

My score: 9



Average: 8.52 (102.2/12)

Michel 14 Nov 2002 20:33

I agree with you, maybe the best song on the album.

Typical Jim song, great backing vocals on this track.

It's a strong ballad with all Steinman parts, what makes it a good song. This version is offcourse better than Jim's own version.

My Score: 8/9

Tim 14 Nov 2002 20:49

Indeed a great song. The version from Jim STeinmans album is also great, and the "remix" of the song also. Very cool.

To quote Michel, a typicall Steinman song.

A 8.7

White of High 14 Nov 2002 22:13

I agree with you it's better tham Jim's version, but I'm missing the bazuki solo. Jim's version is so strange by bazuki... and good.

White of High 14 Nov 2002 22:14

I agree with you it's better than Jim's version, but I'm missing the bazuki solo. Jim's version is so strange by bazuki... and good.

R. 14 Nov 2002 23:43

Feleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeena ... :mrgreen:

White of High 14 Nov 2002 23:57

Sorry R.! What?

Sometimes I don't understand you...

Feleena 15 Nov 2002 00:36

:D Surfs Up is the song I would love to hear Meat sing live. At my meet and greet in 1999 at Wembly I even asked him if he could sing it for me!! But he told me sorry I cant!
Sigh those lyrics "were on the edge of forever and we are never gonna fail!" oh and of course "Surfs Up and sooooooo am I" Id die and go to heaven!!!!!!!!
Thanks R! For telling me about this topic Ill shut up now!

Hugs

Feleena x

QT 15 Nov 2002 10:04

Great Song. This album is the best of the three in the period 1983-1986.
Ik give the song a 8,5!

Twan :)

Anonymous 15 Nov 2002 20:33

thankyou! I was wondering what it was, the bouzoki at the end is the best part of the JS version - at first I thought it was mandolin, but then knew it wasn't. JS' version is too long but I think the high vocals make it a bit better.

Bohemian 16 Nov 2002 07:40

Jim's version is actually sung by Rory Dodd, who has a great voice and personally I'd love to see Jim do an album wiht him.

I probably prefer the Bad For Good version... well... depending on what day of the week it is changes my favourite version.

Bohemian

Bohemian 16 Nov 2002 07:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twan82
Great Song. This album is the best of the three in the period 1983-1986.
Ik give the song a 8,5!

Twan :)


What do you mean three songs from 1983 - 1986?

Bohemian

Michel 16 Nov 2002 17:41

Bohemian, even I can read that he meanes that the album Bad Attitude is the of the three albums, Midnight, Bad, Blind.
But no offence!

About the Jim and Meat version, I always think Meat's version is always better than Jims version, because Jim hasn't the voice to sing his own song. And no one can sing a Steinman-song like Meat can.

About Surf's Up live, Meat did it on the Storytellers tour, but nobody has bootlegs from this tour.

The Flying Mouse 29 Nov 2002 00:14

:twisted: A beautiful romantic song.
The music is slow but very powerful.Meat's voice is very powerful and full of emotion.
The lyrics are very pleading("How Hard Do I Gotta' Try")and remind me of For Crying Out Loud.
I agree that this song would sound awesome live.
9/10 Never gonna' fail.

Anonymous 29 Nov 2002 12:38

I love the song too, but every time I sing along, my englishness kicks in and I have to sing "How hard do I HAVE to try?"

Anonymous 29 Nov 2002 12:51

that amazing winged beauty picture
 
white loaf whatever ur name is where can i get that picture of the winged angel on your profile? its beautiful

White of High 29 Nov 2002 18:39

I have found it in the store of the mlukfc in the profile section. If you don't find it there you must search out of the sites of Michael Whelan. Maybe it is his picture.

R. could help you more...

R. 02 Dec 2002 20:31

You'll find this picture (amongst others) in our avatar gallery.
However, you will need to register in order to go there.

The link to the official Michael Wheelan website can be found in our links section on http://www.mlukfc.com/ .

White of High 14 Jan 2003 22:26

I don't understand anything. Meat was singing Surf's up and Nowhere Fast by Jim Steinman. Why didn't sing more songs by him to this album?

And another question! Was Meat's or Streets of Fire's version of Nowhere Fast before???

QT 15 Jan 2003 10:13

Special for Bohemian: I love this song very much.
Now I'm going to say something about the album (as a real Meat Loaf-fan, you know which album I'm takling about, so I called it just "the album as I did in my first post on this topic). The album is the best of three in the period 1983-1986.
8O Be aware!:Now Im gonna change and say something about the song (Surf's Up) again.
I give the song a 8,5!

I hope you'll understand what I mean! :lol: (Despite my English isn't my mother language and wasn't my favourite subject on school!)

Twan

Garrett 18 Jan 2003 11:11

Now, what should I say to this song? I don't need to say something. It's logical that only the highest score is right for this one!

10/10

Roddyboy 05 May 2003 00:15

What does it mean?
 
I love this song too but I have wondered for 8 years now what does "Surf's up" really means?


The lyrics in the refrain goes:

How hard
How hard
How hard do I gotta try
I want all of your love
Surf's up
I need it so bad
Surf's up
I need it so bad
Surf's up and so am I
I gotta give you some love
Surf's up
and so am I...



How are you if you are "Surf's up"? Any englishman/woman here who can be kind enough and explain it to a dum swede :oops:

White of High 05 May 2003 15:00

I'm not English but I think the feeling's on a surf (if you are a surfer) as same as what you feel with a girl...

Roddyboy 05 May 2003 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by White of High
I'm not English but I think the feeling's on a surf (if you are a surfer) as same as what you feel with a girl...


That is a good explanation it can mean that why didn't I think of that 8)

Thank you very much for giving me that explanation :D

White of High 05 May 2003 16:17

But I can't believe it!
A surf and a girl??? :lol:

Roddyboy 05 May 2003 16:50

How do you mean? Why can't you believe it?

White of High 05 May 2003 18:06

Could you believe surfing's feeling is as same as a night with a girl's feeling?

Roddyboy 05 May 2003 21:12

I'm not a surfer but I can imagine there is a special rush of surfing and when being with a partner is also a rush so I can believe it is like that

White of High 05 May 2003 21:15

Hmmm...
I'd like to learn surfing...

Roddyboy 05 May 2003 21:19

Why? Because you don't have a partner to get that rush with feeling "Surf's up" with togehter?

White of High 05 May 2003 21:22

Aaahhhh...
Good question. The surf seems far away...

Roddyboy 05 May 2003 21:25

he he easier to find a partner then to Surf with :D

White of High 05 May 2003 21:51

I haven't got sea...

Roddyboy 05 May 2003 21:53

Oh I see that is a problem if you're gonna surf.... Then get a partner instead and skip the surfing it is far better :lol:

JacenSolo 06 May 2003 00:20

Hmmmm, I'd have been curious to here how much better this track would've sounded if Steinman had produced it..as it is I'll give it a 8.5!
My Score: 8.5

Quigmo 17 Sep 2003 10:33

I've really enjoyed JS lyrics with all the different levels of meanings that could be interprited. That is untill I heard this the first time on BFG. I think JS went to far with this one, too blatent. Still I was curious as too what I would think if the voice was singing it. Well here's my answer. ML is in fine form but it's not enough to save this Stienman song.
4/10

RSG 21 Sep 2003 02:26

Surf's Up, is an excellent song for such a hard album. Oh My ROCKIN HEAVENS!!!!!!!! This song, is a 10 all the way. His voice, is amazing, I really can't believe it!! The music is Heavy with heart, his voice is amazing with heart. Surf's Up, i don't picture anything yet, but you know something, this is a beautiful SLAMMIN song. WoW, thats all i can say. GO MEAT!!!!!!!!!! Solo, what a nice touch.

10\10

MjP2 21 Sep 2003 12:27

Re: What does it mean?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roddyboy
Any englishman/woman here who can be kind enough and explain it to a dum swede :oops:

Well, here you go you dum swede (I'm a finn...)

I've always understood that it means that he's "up" as well. Surf is up and so is he. And what this "up" means should be pretty obvious.

On Jim Steinman fans tribute album "Nothing But a Merciless Night" there ist a cover sung by a woman. She sings "Surf's wet and so am I." :)

I love this song, it's among my top five Steinsongs but I preger "Jim's" (Rory Dodd's) version of the song. I think his gentle beautiful voice suits better to this type of song, besides the whole production is so much _more_ than on the Meat's version. Other than that, I don't like the fact that Meat's version is faster than the original.

In my opinion the only Meat cover that's significantly better than the original is Out of the Frying Pan.

Meat: 8/10
Rory: 10/10

MjP2

Bart 22 Sep 2003 09:44

this song is made for an up tempo disco version! Just like they have done with total eclipse of the heart. I think Jim was inspired by it, cause he made an up tempo 2 outta 3 for Bonnie. Surf's up needs an up tempo house disco rap version! With a big giant female voice : i've got the power!"

8) 8)

PanicLord 22 Sep 2003 22:10

I really love this song, the emotions are so powerful, you can't help being swept along by it (just like a really big wave! :lol: ).

Of the two versions, Meat's is definitely my favourite: no one can sing a Steinsong like Meat. His voice is so powerful and raw, that it almost makes me get up in sympathy :lol: :oops: .

All in all a rousing song, strong lyrics, great backing music (although I also wonder if Jim would have produced it better - I'm not sure), and such powerful emotion - classic Meat / Jim 8) .

10 out of 10!

Gez 03 Nov 2003 17:24

Great song guys and gals. I used to be confused about this song, thinking about doin the washing :D :D

Tasha 01 Dec 2003 12:20

One of my favourites (and I agree with the analogy made as to what is "up!!") I heard the JS version first so tend to prefer that. Great stuff.

LostSoul 29 Dec 2003 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michel
About Surf's Up live, Meat did it on the Storytellers tour, but nobody has bootlegs from this tour.

He did? 8O

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roddyboy
I love this song too but I have wondered for 8 years now what does "Surf's up" really means?

How are you if you are "Surf's up"? Any englishman/woman here who can be kind enough and explain it to a dum swede :oops:

I'm not English either... but I'll translate it for you: "can't you see my faded Levis bursting apart..."
Got it? :wink:

back to topic: I LOOOOOVE this song!
It sounds like an "Objects In The Frying Pan" hybrid!
I wish I could hear it once live...

10/10 of course!

Michel 31 Dec 2003 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostSoul
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michel
About Surf's Up live, Meat did it on the Storytellers tour, but nobody has bootlegs from this tour.

He did? 8O

Yes, he did. :lol:

Bart 02 Jan 2004 16:01

How you know?

What doe sit mean: surf's up? I still don't understand?

AndyK 02 Jan 2004 16:10

In Jim Steinmans own words.... Surfs Up is a "boner" song :D

I love the song, but Meat doesn't really do it justice on Bad Attitude, it lacks some of the passion and a touch of the innocence that is there on the Rory Dodd vocal on Bad For Good. It needs the real orchestrations rather than the synthed mid-80's sound.

All in all 7/10 for Meats version - could do better.

Bart 02 Jan 2004 16:36

But he sings it to a girl: Surfs up and so am i. So what does that mean?

AndyK 02 Jan 2004 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart
But he sings it to a girl: Surfs up and so am i. So what does that mean?

Well far be it from me to be explicit openly in public (I've still got the court order preventing me) but the key words in tht line are and so am I you're brain is obviously not smutty enough Bart ;)

evil nickname 02 Jan 2004 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart
But he sings it to a girl: Surfs up and so am i. So what does that mean?

I thought I posted this earlier today, but apperently not.
Let's try again: the surf is up, and a part of him too. Do you get it now, or do we need to whip out (pun intended) the E-word? :)

Wild_Honey 03 Jan 2004 00:47

10/10!!! :D :D :D

AndyK 03 Jan 2004 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart
But he sings it to a girl: Surfs up and so am i. So what does that mean?

I thought I posted this earlier today, but apperently not.
Let's try again: the surf is up, and a part of him too. Do you get it now, or do we need to whip out (pun intended) the E-word? :)

Don't you go whipping anything out.... you'll have someones eye out with that ;-)

rockfenris2005 03 Jan 2004 12:01

It's actually another song from Jim's NEVERLAND. Peter baptises Wendy into the pack - by the waters of the purple surf. I assume it was done very sexually, because of the lyrics. Jim originally intended "Took the Words" to be used for this scene - but he wrote another song.

Bart 05 Jan 2004 13:55

yeah, i know that. Read it in Phenomenanonoanenoom of Excess.

I always thought it had to do with the beach and the waves or something like that, you know: surfing, surfboard. I am still not sure its all about having a b..er.

LostSoul 05 Jan 2004 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart
I am still not sure its all about having a b..er.

You want me to believe that?
There're much less explicits lyrics on Meat's songs and you're stuck on that one?! :lol:

What about Jumping The Gun? I am (almost) sure it ain't nothing to do with Flying Mouse's explanation... :lmao:

Bart 06 Jan 2004 09:12

It was also about Jim's explanation of the song in that book, the phenonanenoununonmenon... It was about Peter en Wendy at the beach. So never thought of the sex-thing.

Michel 06 Jan 2004 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart
How you know?

What doe sit mean: surf's up? I still don't understand?

I read it on Sue's page.

LostSoul 08 Jan 2004 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart
It was also about Jim's explanation of the song in that book, the phenonanenoununonmenon... It was about Peter en Wendy at the beach. So never thought of the sex-thing.

No one to support me on that one?
I'm looking a bit naughty right now... :oops: :oops: :oops:

batloaf 09 Jan 2004 03:31

in this song you can clearly hear Jim Steinman vocal Abbility (hope i spell that right) or better to say his limitations, i know Steinman composed some great music but to hear him sing slow songs like this is Awful

musically the original version is better than Meat ones but i still prefer a good voice above a minor version

i give all version an 7

evil nickname 09 Jan 2004 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by batloaf
in this song you can clearly hear Jim Steinman vocal Abbility (hope i spell that right) or better to say his limitations, i know Steinman composed some great music but to hear him sing slow songs like this is Awful

Too bad that he didn't sing that on Bad For Good then, isn't it? Vocal credits go to Rory "Turn around, bright eyes" Dodd :)

batloaf 10 Jan 2004 03:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname
Quote:

Originally Posted by batloaf
in this song you can clearly hear Jim Steinman vocal Abbility (hope i spell that right) or better to say his limitations, i know Steinman composed some great music but to hear him sing slow songs like this is Awful

Too bad that he didn't sing that on Bad For Good then, isn't it? Vocal credits go to Rory "Turn around, bright eyes" Dodd :)

':?' Is THat Sure
oh my god i've been listen to Bat out of hell with Volume on Max way too much.
my ears are going Bad

evil nickname 10 Jan 2004 13:47

On the free 7" / 45RPM single that came with my BFG LP, it says under "Surf's Up" "Rory Dodd: Featured Vocals". It's a public secret that Jim didn't sing "Surf's Up" and "Lost Boys and Golden Girls" on his record :)

And for going deaf: what's wrong with BOOH being the last thing you ever hear? :D

Michel 10 Jan 2004 16:21

Did Jim not sing thos songs?

evil nickname 10 Jan 2004 16:36

Didn't I say that?
Didn't I say that?
Did I tell you that he didn't?
Cause it would have been a matter of fact!

:mrgreen:

meatwka 10 Jan 2004 17:03

great song, the moment i heard it for the 1st time i liked it. Possibly the best song on the album! Great lyrics, music and brilliantly performed! :lol:

Bart 12 Jan 2004 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname
On the free 7" / 45RPM single that came with my BFG LP, it says under "Surf's Up" "Rory Dodd: Featured Vocals". It's a public secret that Jim didn't sing "Surf's Up" and "Lost Boys and Golden Girls" on his record :)

And for going deaf: what's wrong with BOOH being the last thing you ever hear? :D

Yeah sure, and i got long hair. :mrgreen:

RadioMaster 09 Oct 2006 19:53

not bad
Meatīs version is better than the BfG one....although I like both....

from the situation it reminds me YTTWROOMM

8

batcity 09 Oct 2006 22:09

Surfs up by jim, Just orgasmic gothic over the top HEAVEN!!!

24K 23 Oct 2006 22:58

This song is fab,really like it.8 out of 10.

duke knooby 23 Oct 2006 23:16

with out a doubt, the best song ever recorded, when done by meat. full marks!!!!

Monstro 24 Oct 2006 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knobby1666 (Post 278349)
with out a doubt, the best song ever recorded, when done by meat. full marks!!!!


And Jonty gets it right, stunning song that just leaps out at ya from the album...vocals to die for!!!!

lorenzoduke 24 Oct 2006 06:06

I always read it like that too.

I really think this could be a show stopper live, though I guess we won't be hearing many (any?) non-Bat songs on the coming tour?

Bap 25 Oct 2006 14:12

Amazing song! 9/10

Evil One 23 Jan 2007 23:06

6. I like it, but not a patch on Steinman's original.

White of High 24 Jan 2007 22:42

Average: 8.36 (167.2/20)

Monstro 24 Jan 2007 22:53

Forgot to score it lol

10/10

mszee 24 Jan 2007 23:38

10/10

djfierce 25 Jan 2007 00:59

9

JanT 25 Jan 2007 03:49

9

geordieloaf 07 Feb 2007 23:25

One of my favourte Meat songs.
9/10

Eddie's Teddy 09 Feb 2007 10:58

I absolutely love this song. Different class. Full marks from me. :D

RadioMaster 09 Feb 2007 11:13

A truly great song, one of his best!
10/10

Lord Kagan 10 Feb 2007 13:44

8/10 really great song

Feleena 10 Feb 2007 18:56

I love this song sooooooo much 10 outa 10!!

Feleena x

florence75015 01 Sep 2009 07:39

Very romantic and sensual song. Thanks to all of you, I now understand the "surf's up" meaning. I didn't get it at all :oops:
I like the slow beginning of the song that suddenly goes crescendo. It put the stress on the passion that inhabits that man and on his desire, that are reflected in Meat's voice.

9/10

glockenspiel 01 Sep 2009 14:13

Transcendentally brilliant performance, sweeps you away like a huge ocean wave.
Do the marks people give get collated on 'The Standing'?
If so, I better go back to the others, and give marks.

For Surf's Up: 10

Evil One 01 Sep 2009 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by glockenspiel (Post 471129)
Do the marks people give get collated on 'The Standing'?

They used to, but since White Of High was banned / threw a wobbly and left they haven't been touched. Perhaps a job for a junior mod in training?

RadioMaster 01 Sep 2009 22:43

nah, cant we turn it into a poll and give it to warioloaf??

Wario 01 Sep 2009 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 471172)
nah, cant we turn it into a poll and give it to warioloaf??

I second that :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 471170)
They used to, but since White Of High was banned / threw a wobbly and left they haven't been touched. Perhaps a job for a junior mod in training?

Dont remember that .... *Looks at archive*

BTW he was last on this site august 18th

Evil One 01 Sep 2009 22:57

But he'll just stuff everything in his backpack.

Wario 01 Sep 2009 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 471178)
But he'll just stuff everything in his backpack.

Thats very true indeed. I went to school with it on today and got alot of praise

samurai7 02 Sep 2009 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 471180)
Thats very true indeed. I went to school with it on today and got alot of praise

Oh, I didn't realise you went to one of those schools :p

lisa01 02 Sep 2009 11:02

29. surf's up
 
I love this song i think its great and i would give it 10/10 as well

LisaT 02 Sep 2009 22:36

10/10. One of my all time favourites. As others have said, I'd love to hear Meat sing it live. Brings back fond memories, which I am keeping to myself!!

White of High 28 Sep 2009 19:53

Yes, exactly. I am travelling all around the world. No time writting in forum. :(

RSG 29 Sep 2009 04:08

Good to see you, WOH! Not sure what happened, but hope you're well!

White of High 29 Sep 2009 14:33

What happened, where? Everything is right!
On forum? Just boring... Real life is better! :)

*originaldancechick 29 Sep 2009 16:08

This is definitely one of Meat's better songs. I just love it and will give it 10/10. Luv cx


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