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The only thing I've heard is that they're going to film one of the concerts in Australia that Meat is doing the orchestra, and release it as a live CD / DVD combination. I wonder if they're still planning on doing that :??:

I don't know about any of the other concerts though .. it would be nice !

Vicki

Wow... that sounds pretty cool!!! Finally!!! A new live cd / DVD!!!! :lol:

Best christmas news ever!!!

Didn't they record also one of the Mexico shows for dvd/cd?

They showed the Mexican concert on tv here in the US .. but I'm not sure if they're going to release it on DVD or not :)

Vicki

Surely, with it being the last world tour - a dvd has to be made

PLEASE :P

I absolutely agree :))
Vicki

I think theyd be better to release nothing than release Mexico on DVD. Hopefully that will not be our last reminder of a Meat Loaf show caught on film. It had its good spots and bad but the venue was not the greatest ive seen - but certainly one of the worst.

I have to agree about the venue. I haven't been to any of the shows in Europe (so I can't compare it to the ones you've probably seen), but the lighting could have been better .... the best I've seen so far is either The Borgata in Atlantic City or The Mohegan Sun arena :)) Given that ... I still think the Mexican Concert was fantastic, and would love to see the entire concert released on DVD.

Personally I would give anything to see them release one of the recent UK shows on DVD .... and hope they follow through with the plan to release one of the Australian shows with the orchestra on DVD / CD. Now that will be amazing !!

Vicki

I thought Mexico was not the best show to be fair - Meat was so ill looking and struggled - at that point he had the throat probs so thats prob why. The vocals were shaky at times - afterall it was a lot of the actual cd version of the song during the remixing - you could tell that one minute it was Meat live, next minute the CD had kicked in - Kasim must have decided to go that road whilst doing his mixing - personally nomatter how Meat was sounding, id raher they hadnt used the CD versions whilst making it into a release and just let in run as it was so to speak. For example the start of CHSIB was pure CD being played over the top of Meat singing live. Testify was the same too. Thats why i dont think mexico should be released as a LIVE DVD unless they take away the remixing and let Meat be heard rather than a CD

I Would love for a UK show to be released as well - or even Trier. What I don't understand is we all know Meat records every show as audio (dunno about video) so why isnt more live material released - perhaps Meatloaf.net could let the members of their site download exclusive live tracks or something off the sound board tapes meat keeps - there's an idea!!! He'll have soo much stuff on tape so why not share it with the fans???????????

Yes, the Mexican concert was filmed when he was still having problems with his throat ... but I don't think he looked bad at all. And to be perfectly honest with you, I still can't tell if they used live or CD versions of the song ... but I still enjoy watching it :)

I've heard the shows in the UK are a lot better right now ... and yes I would prefer to have them release one of them on a live DVD. You don't know how much I'd love to see him sing DIST or Forever Young just once ....

But until Meat decides if and when to do more concerts in the United States, I won't have the chance to see him live again, and to me the Mexican concert is the next best thing. I don't look a gift horse in the mouth so to speak .. and I'll enjoy every minute of it :wink:

Vicki

You're absolutely right Chris .. I couldn't agree more !!
Vicki

I thought that during Mexico it was too obvious - obvoiusly meat performed live the whole night - im not trying to suggest that he didnt - but when it came to mixing the concert for TV purpose a lot of CD was used.

Well that just goes to show what a good job Kasim did mixing it .. because it wasn't that obvious to me :?

Very interesting

Vicki

You're one person - just because YOU thought it wasnt obvoius doesnt mean it now becomes a fact :D

Its not Kasims fault - he seemingly did what had to be done

Anyway, back on topic - come on Meat release some of this amazing footage you have of Germany and UK (and of course Australia has to be recorded too)

Oh well .. c'est la vie :D
I'll still enjoy it

Vicki

Yeah it was still a great show......just proves how Meats on stage presence over rules everything else

I Couldn't Have Said That Better Myself Chris :))

Vicki

Well, in fact this is quit interesting. I got the feeling that not all the songs during concert were totally live. Some part of CHSIB soundend to me as if they played the cd. Same with testify.

Really :??: I'm just curious .. which concert was that :??:
That's very interesting. When I saw him last September, I know they played back the speaking part at the beginning of Testify. But other than that, both songs were definitely live and sounded incredible :))

ChrisNI may be right about the Mexican concert .... but I still can't tell.
You'll have to let me know what you think after you see it :)

Vicki

Curious about this too, because as far as I can tell (apart from the things Vicki mentioned...this is Live to me, during ALL shows I have seen).
Please explain, because CHSIB sounds 100% live to me.

xxx

Mariella

Don't know what show you are talking about Bart, but got allready 4 German shows on cd, and none of them sounded like a playback / original CD version.

I do not like this kind of debate but I have to add someting here...

How can anyone doubt about it when you can hear each and every Meat's breath?

We were in the middle of discussing Mexico concert - so i presume thats the show Bart was talking about. We aren't saying Meat didnt sing the show Live but his voice was poor and Kasim used the CD version of the song in spots to cover up whilst he was mixing - thats whats being said.
As for Meat not singing live - you've misunderstood the whole arguement - of course its all live - but Mexico TV showing used a lot of CD over the top of meats voice at times - how cant you tell Vicki - theres times he was singing but his mouth wasn't moving or times his mouth was moving but there was so sound, watch more closely and pay more attention to the show and you'll see it.

Again for the last time - what is being said is that Meat did the whole show live but at times his voice was rough so during Mixing they substituted his voice with the CD. CHSIB is so so so so so obvoius

Thank you for clarifying that! :D

ps: sometimes I need a little translation :oops:

Like I said earlier, it wasn't that obvious to me. C'est la vie .... they did what they had to do .... but it won't take away from me enjoying a great show ! Since I'm not in the UK right now .... it's still the next best thing to being there :))

Now if they just listen to us and release one of the current European shows on DVD .... that would be fantastic :wink:

Vicki

I didn't know you can speak french... :wink:

I wish they could release ALL SHOWS on dvd!!! :twisted:
maybe I'm too demanding... hmmm... :roll:

No, LostSoul, I really don't see anything 'demanding' about that!
You are just expressing your wishes...and mine. :lol:

xxx

Mariella

Absolutely right Mariella .. we can all dream can't we :))


And LostSoul .. would you believe that's all I can remember after 4 years of French in High School :roll: :wink:

Vicki

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oat least something like a history of... I still dont know about any other live dvd concerts or previous videos that have been released or not? I mean are their any still available in stores anywhere????

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The Storytellers DVD (1999) should still be available ... but I'm not sure about the Bat Out of Hell II Picture Show. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the only other 2 live videos are Meat Loaf Live and Bad Attitude Live :)
Sometimes you can find all of them listed on Ebay.

Vicki

:twisted: There's also the original Hits Out Of Hell vid with the Dead Ringer vid, and the Classic Albums Bat Out Of Hell documentery.

I know Bad Attitude, Bat II, HOOH, are out of print.
I don't know if Classic Albums is still available.
Meat Loaf live can still be found in shops.

I knew I was forgetting some :)) Thanks Mouse !!
Vicki

I think its insane that they havent released a REAL Meat Loaf show on DVD, after all these monster tours throughout the years. Im sure most people who saw Meat would want some sort of keep sake. They just HAVE to release a live DVD from the CHSIB tour! - if not we must take to the streets and protest! Lol! Would prefer them release a UK arena show or the proposed show with the orchestra in Australia.

Wish i could see this Mexico show now to hear and see what you guys are talking about! I wouldnt blame Meat if he wanted support from a backing track every now and then (you hear the CD version of CHSIB kick in for only a few words on the bonus disk recording thats comes with the Australian version of the album)... actually thought it was quite a neat effect - Meat singing to his own backing vocal for a few seconds!

Of course, Meat, you could always do the sensible thing and slow down, do fewer shows, play bigger venues (let us come to you), stop letting yourself become the victim of crazy tour schedules (UK 2003/2004 zig zagging the British Isles instead of playing the same venue for a few nights in a row like any other performer would - and save yourself the trauma of travelling...) some would say quality not quantity? - least you'd be taking better care of YOUR health.

Take care,
Ewan

Hi, I am a lucky girl! for my birthday and christmas this week I got 2 meat loaf dvd's one of which was the Storytellers. I can't help but observe (with apologies to our american users) that it may have worked better with a UK audience. Perhaps I am a little biased but the members of the audience seemed a little reserved, whereas UK fans may have let themselves go a bit more. All the same it is good and Meat is wonderful and relaxed in it. Happy New Year to you all. :wink: :D

Meat could rent the Wembley Arena for a whole month... :mrgreen:
and play ALL the shows there!

I'll be there... in the front row... for a month! 8)

I managed to drop on a copy of the Bat II video in MVC a few years since, there was only a couple of copies, so got one while I could. Am still looking around for the storytellers DVD

Debs :D

Couldn't Have Said It Better Chris :-)
I would have to highly agree with Chris on this matter. It is definatley NOT live when I hear Meat's voice, but don't see lips move. I highly doubt Meat was using "tracks" while performing on stage (only Fire Ball would know the real answer to this), but the Mexico show was highly "fixed" - ain't no doubt about it! What I witness when I popped in the video did not decieve me, I heard Meat Loaf singing when there were close-ups on him and his lips were not moving.
ROCK ON STUDIO FIXES!!!

A lot of artists do this now!

ROCK ON LOADSA PRODUCT!!!

Oh well .. guess it's time for me to get these old eyes checked because I watched the tape again the other night, and still didn't see what you and Chris are talking about :roll: And I wasn't decieved either .... I saw a great show :)

Vicki

And your ears too :D On CHSIB, the very 1st line of the song, listen to it and tell me that u seroiusly cant hear the cd version of the opening line to CHSIB, to me it should be obvoius especially if you listen to both Live and CD versions of CHSIB

Couldn't Have Said It Better Chris :-)

ROCK ON OVER DUBS!!!

Ok Chris, I just watched it again .....
and, as much as I hate to admit it, you were right, and I was wrong :wink:
Dammit ... I'm getting old. Now I have to go out and get glasses and a hearing aid 8O :)

Vicki

Its strange Vicki, its not great chunks of the song, just occasinal lines and sometimes it could easily go unnoticed

After it was pointed out to me, I listened again with my ear-phones on...and yes. You are right, I was wrong!
I think it must have been added later.

xxx

Mariella

You're right Chris .. it is strange, which I guess is why I didn't notice it in the first place :)

Vicki

When i listen to some recordings from the shows in Germany, i hear the second verse of CHSIB ( i believe it was in frankfurt, not sure) and i immediately got the feeling that it was not live. Same story with the seccond or third verse in Testify.

But

Meat still got all the 4 octaves. Paradise live in Oberhausen: After deep dark nite he sings loud the way he does it many times. Paradiiiiise and then louder by the daaaash and then louder booaaaaard and then octave higher and very very loud: liiiight. O djeeeez very very good. 8)


About the Mexican concert: i think its a shame. it is ridicilous. Why he overdubt some parts? Jesus, it makes me angry. A true born artist, a beast on stage is overdubbing a live concert. It is ri-di-ci-lous!! :evil: