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Danny L 10 Jul 2016 14:50
Steinman songs that could/should have been on MEAT LOAF albums?
 
Now BRAVER THAN WE ARE is just on the horizon and BAT THE MUSICAL is a little bit further away (33 weeks according to my coountdown!) and we know the tracklist for the former, I can't help but wonder what some songs would have been like had Meat done them on his albums. We know the original Bat 3 (Final At Bat?) would have featured soem of these songs we know from demos/Tanz:

Not Allowed To Love
God Has Left The Building
We're Still The Children
What Part of my Boody Hurts The Most?

Some titles we know but never heard:
Paradise Lost
The Monster Is Out Of The Cage
No Lips Hands Or Butts
The Powers Of Darkness


plus there's some old classics that you can't help wonder what they would have beemn like had Meat recorded them ala TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART and MAKING LOVE OUT OF NOTHING AT ALL.

Meat Loaf has however said that he may record WHAT PART OF MY BODY for the BOOH cast album, likely thats been talked about with Jim.

Are there any somgs you are surprised weren't on the Bats/Braver/ML albums?

Evil One 10 Jul 2016 18:00
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny L (Post 614923)
Not Allowed To Love
God Has Left The Building
We're Still The Children
What Part of my Boody Hurts The Most?
These are probably all contracted to the musical, or Meat would have done them on Braver.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny L (Post 614923)
Some titles we know but never heard:
Paradise Lost
The Monster Is Out Of The Cage
No Lips Hands Or Butts
The Powers Of Darkness
These songs probably never existed in the first place.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny L (Post 614923)
plus there's some old classics that you can't help wonder what they would have beemn like had Meat recorded them ala TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART and MAKING LOVE OUT OF NOTHING AT ALL.
I would love to hear Meat do Making Love, but it's not going to happen. Braver is only 55 minutes long. If he wanted to do another Steinman song then he would have.

ashkent7 10 Jul 2016 21:38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny L (Post 614923)
Now BRAVER THAN WE ARE is just on the horizon and BAT THE MUSICAL is a little bit further away (33 weeks according to my coountdown!) and we know the tracklist for the former, I can't help but wonder what some songs would have been like had Meat done them on his albums. We know the original Bat 3 (Final At Bat?) would have featured soem of these songs we know from demos/Tanz:

Not Allowed To Love
God Has Left The Building
We're Still The Children
What Part of my Boody Hurts The Most?

Some titles we know but never heard:
Paradise Lost
The Monster Is Out Of The Cage
No Lips Hands Or Butts
The Powers Of Darkness


plus there's some old classics that you can't help wonder what they would have beemn like had Meat recorded them ala TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART and MAKING LOVE OUT OF NOTHING AT ALL.

Meat Loaf has however said that he may record WHAT PART OF MY BODY for the BOOH cast album, likely thats been talked about with Jim.

Are there any somgs you are surprised weren't on the Bats/Braver/ML albums?
I think Not Allowed To Love is kind of covered in Braver with the Bridge of More (the I need all the love I can get lines). I think it is one song that lends to a female vocal much more than male so not surprised the full one didn't feature.

I think i agree with those top four being part of the Bat Musical...at least in some form.

I think the latter four have existed at some time but as some of them were originally called conclusions to Bat1 (when there was talk of climaxes and conclusions a long while back) i think they might have been from so long ago that they have now been recycled in some form in songs already heard (part of me thinks the line "so much of paradise lost, when you add up the cost" from Braver/Going all the way could have arguably been originally a line from Paradise Lost.)

As for songs I would have liked Meat to have done. I kind of feel like in the main he has covered what could/needed to be done from Bad for Good and Pandora's Box (I don't really think Safe Sex or Little Black Book would work lol. Dance in My Pants is a fun song and it was heard live as part of his 88 tour, Stark Raving Love he has done the best bit of with Lost Boys and Golden Girls.)

Making Love would be a good shout out of Bonnie's stuff..again Holding out for a Hero wouldn't really work, Total Eclipse Maybe, Ravishing again not for Meat.

From the musicals, I think they are pretty much covered. Most of Tanz has now been done, and much of Jim's earlier musicals were reused for Bat et al.

There are possibly some that could have been done better (Nowhere Fast expanded to more like the Streets of Fire lyrics, I'll Kill You if You Don't Come Back with a better production, a few of the Bat 3 songs without Desmond Child's involvement).

Possibly some version of Tonight is What it Means To Be Young would have been good for completeness.

I think the main thing i wonder is how many variations and other versions of songs has Jim written over the years that haven't been heard other than those where demos have shown up on his site over the years and on youtube.

AndrewG 11 Jul 2016 10:21
To me there's no point Meat doing covers that Bonnie has done as they are mostly quite well known and quite well produced in the first place. Not really sure Loving you was necessary or even Meat's duet rendition of It's all Coming Back (original and Celine Dion version are more memorable imo). Total Eclipse and Bonnie's Making Love to my ears were definitive versions. I remember hearing Bonnie's Making Love on the radio in 1995 and thought it was first Total Eclipse and then a sequel (never heard the original) within 5 seconds so that says enough.

Stark Raving Love and Dance in my pants could have been on Braver imo. The one song I don't get why it's missing is Graveyard Shift. I think it's an excellent song "I see it all!". Probably better than some that have made it on Braver. Had all of these together with the Angels Arise choir with pounding Piano (album opening) and Body been on Braver too I think they could have justifiably called it Bat 4 easily. :-) Going all the way could then have been the final goodbye I think. The lyrics in Angels Arise "Gotham City is our home..." could easily have been changed to "this Godforsaken Town is our home" to tie in with AFL. It's a disgrace hardly anyone will ever hear Angels Arise. The ending "As the night must surely, always, always fall" with the counter point piano backing and lyric "Looks like it's gonna be a dark one tonight" are some of Steinman's best ideas ever imo.
Note: It's not up to me what an artist does at all. These are just my dream ideas.

I agree with Evil, really not sure those blog mentioned song titles / lyrics ever existed as full songs. Nothing has ever materialised from these in all the random Dream Engine Malarky / Jim tribute shows that appeared in random places (with his involvement at times) from what I've read.

ashkent7 11 Jul 2016 13:02
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 614930)
The lyrics in Angels Arise "Gotham City is our home..." could easily have been changed to "this Godforsaken Town is our home" to tie in with AFL. It's a disgrace hardly anyone will ever hear Angels Arise. The ending "As the night must surely, always, always fall" with the counter point piano backing and lyric "Looks like it's gonna be a dark one tonight" are some of Steinman's best ideas ever imo.
I think one of the most appropriate lyrics from the DOTV version of Angels Arise is "There's every sign that once upon a time is starting right here and now." I think considering everything Jim has written is part of one massive adult fairy tale tapestry that line could be used to open any work he is part of and fit in just fine.

I can only think that Graveyard Shift was either a bit too theatrical even for Braver, or Jim didn't have the time/inclination/desire to rewrite it ( the lyrics about lives destroyed by crime might have worked outside the Batman concept but may have been too left field on an album that is already so far outside the ballpark that's it's half way home on the bus while the game is still playing - in a good way :D )

proctorloaf 12 Jul 2016 07:48
We're Still The Children
What Part of my Boody Hurts The Most?
Graveyard Shift
Tonight is what it means to be young

The final goodbye?

renegadeangel 15 Jul 2016 12:41
Quote:
Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 614937)
We're Still The Children
What Part of my Boody Hurts The Most?
Graveyard Shift
Tonight is what it means to be young

The final goodbye?
Very doubtful. If BRAVER gets heavily trashed when it comes out I think Meat will call it a day. Ifit goes over we might see a song or two from the BAT musical come out on another greatest hits package or from the BAT soundtrack,
Now if BAT the musical goes down in flames much like DANCE OF THE VAMPIRES and BRAVER does well, maybe Jim will want to do something more with Meat as he tends to run back to Meat when other projects don't work out

loaferman61 15 Jul 2016 18:22
Quote:
Originally Posted by renegadeangel (Post 614992)
Very doubtful. If BRAVER gets heavily trashed when it comes out I think Meat will call it a day. Ifit goes over we might see a song or two from the BAT musical come out on another greatest hits package or from the BAT soundtrack,
Now if BAT the musical goes down in flames much like DANCE OF THE VAMPIRES and BRAVER does well, maybe Jim will want to do something more with Meat as he tends to run back to Meat when other projects don't work out
True. But a lot of people simply are not going to understand "Braver". I think Meat has indicated that he knows this. It is just so very different. Given that mention has been made of Meat recording "Body" I think that might end up being the finale provided the musical is successful enough to get an album.

Since Jim recycles his own songs in so many ways, I have to wonder how many fully written songs he has left after the ones that make the musical? Unless they really want to reach back to the ancient stuff which I can't see - even though Braver does mine some of that territory.

Danny L 15 Jul 2016 19:32
Braver could be hit or miss, the old Skool BOOH should enjoy it, it's a great album, but maybe it's about target audience. I admit the song chpices are very unexpected, but good. Well have to see. I enjoy it :)

Musical theatre is a completely different arena altogether. People will ho and see the show because its Bat Out of Hell, the songs are known well and have commercial welly. Also theatre is a lot broader than the record industry.

Fire Ball 16 Jul 2016 00:00
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny L (Post 614923)
Now BRAVER THAN WE ARE is just on the horizon and BAT THE MUSICAL is a little bit further away (33 weeks according to my coountdown!) and we know the tracklist for the former, I can't help but wonder what some songs would have been like had Meat done them on his albums. We know the original Bat 3 (Final At Bat?) would have featured soem of these songs we know from demos/Tanz:

Not Allowed To Love
God Has Left The Building
We're Still The Children
What Part of my Boody Hurts The Most?

Some titles we know but never heard:
Paradise Lost
The Monster Is Out Of The Cage
No Lips Hands Or Butts
The Powers Of Darkness

There to is a theme to album , Jim and I went through every song , AS far as LYADJ, I love Bonnie but our Track kills the old one, which by the way Jim produced , he loves the new modern Version and my new arrangement of LYADJ . "what part Body", Jim wanted to do it , Sonenberg said we couldn't , Jim Gave Michael Cole the producer of the play the Album for his plane ride , he listened 3 times told Jim the Record is amazing , then ask " Why didn't you Do "What part of my body hurts the most " go figure!! Jim produced LYADJ for Bonnie ,I didn't know he produced , when he said I think that is a very good idea (it goes with the story line ) I said "well that production sucked" , then Jim said I Produced that song , That is called foot in mouth , but he laughed . Jimmy loves the new version and will tell you so You can pick apart the record all you want . I know how great this record is and so does Jim !!! It's like 1977 all over again !! Every one hated Bat ... Nothing changes everything Stays the same !! Some of those titles you listed are not even real songs !!


plus there's some old classics that you can't help wonder what they would have beemn like had Meat recorded them ala TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HEART and MAKING LOVE OUT OF NOTHING AT ALL.

Meat Loaf has however said that he may record WHAT PART OF MY BODY for the BOOH cast album, likely thats been talked about with Jim.

Are there any somgs you are surprised weren't on the Bats/Braver/ML albums?

Fire Ball 16 Jul 2016 02:37
Albums
 
I have never made an album that is just a collection of songs , there has always been a reason within the album that the song appears , there is a reason for it there is a story line to every record . I left songs off records that become hits for other artist . THEY DID NOT FIT WHAT MY STORY LINE !! . M

Fire Ball 16 Jul 2016 02:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 614930)
To me there's no point Meat doing covers that Bonnie has done as they are mostly quite well known and quite well produced in the first place. Not really sure Loving you was necessary or even Meat's duet rendition of It's all Coming Back (original and Celine Dion version are more memorable imo). Total Eclipse and Bonnie's Making Love to my ears were definitive versions. I remember hearing Bonnie's Making Love on the radio in 1995 and thought it was first Total Eclipse and then a sequel (never heard the original) within 5 seconds so that says enough.

Stark Raving Love and Dance in my pants could have been on Braver imo. The one song I don't get why it's missing is Graveyard Shift. I think it's an excellent song "I see it all!". Probably better than some that have made it on Braver. Had all of these together with the Angels Arise choir with pounding Piano (album opening) and Body been on Braver too I think they could have justifiably called it Bat 4 easily. :-) Going all the way could then have been the final goodbye I think. The lyrics in Angels Arise "Gotham City is our home..." could easily have been changed to "this Godforsaken Town is our home" to tie in with AFL. It's a disgrace hardly anyone will ever hear Angels Arise. The ending "As the night must surely, always, always fall" with the counter point piano backing and lyric "Looks like it's gonna be a dark one tonight" are some of Steinman's best ideas ever imo.
Note: It's not up to me what an artist does at all. These are just my dream ideas.

I agree with Evil, really not sure those blog mentioned song titles / lyrics ever existed as full songs. Nothing has ever materialised from these in all the random Dream Engine Malarky / Jim tribute shows that appeared in random places (with his involvement at times) from what I've read.
Well Andrew you might have to change what is a definitive version . M

Fire Ball 16 Jul 2016 02:42
BTWA
 
There to is a theme to album , Jim and I went through every song , AS far as LYADJ, I love Bonnie but our Track kills the old one, which by the way Jim produced , he loves the new modern Version and my new arrangement of LYADJ . "what part Body", Jim wanted to do it , Sonenberg said we couldn't , Jim Gave Michael Cole the producer of the play the Album for his plane ride , he listened 3 times told Jim the Record is amazing , then ask " Why didn't you Do "What part of my body hurts the most " go figure!! Jim produced LYADJ for Bonnie ,I didn't know he produced , when he said I think that is a very good idea (it goes with the story line ) I said "well that production sucked" , then Jim said I Produced that song , That is called foot in mouth , but he laughed . Jimmy loves the new version and will tell you so You can pick apart the record all you want . I know how great this record is and so does Jim !!! It's like 1977 all over again !! Every one hated Bat ... Nothing changes everything Stays the same !! Some of those titles you listed are not even real songs !!

Fire Ball 16 Jul 2016 02:45
So Glad
 
I have so much support here !! Right !!!

CarylB 16 Jul 2016 03:33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615027)
I have so much support here !! Right !!!
You do Meat .. and remember, many of us have not heard anything but the short edit you have released, and don't join in the oughta/shoulda debates ;) But come September .. you'll see and hear from us :-)

renegadeangel 16 Jul 2016 12:41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615027)
I have so much support here !! Right !!!
Actually you do. Braver is a work of art and as all works of art they are open to opinions and criticism. Braver grows on you as you listen to it and at least for me every time I do I hear something new.
It won't maybe be for everybody in the mainstream with the music business the way it is but it has classic written all over it.
At least in my opinion.

PanicLord 16 Jul 2016 12:51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615027)
I have so much support here !! Right !!!
You absolutely do! From the snippets I've heard it's a very different sound to what people are expecting. Who Needs The Young made me laugh out loud with pleasure it's a brilliant opener. Can't wait to hear the rest in full.

Danny L 16 Jul 2016 13:18
I love Braver already, the tracks sound fresh and new while bringing back the bombastic energy we know Meat Loaf & Steinman for.

roomster 16 Jul 2016 13:41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615026)
"what part Body", Jim wanted to do it , Sonenberg said we couldn't
What gives Sonenberg the power to decide this?

Can someone enlighten me?

Danny L 16 Jul 2016 14:23
Quote:
Originally Posted by roomster (Post 615038)
What gives Sonenberg the power to decide this?

Can someone enlighten me?
Maybe the song's contractually tied up in BOOH The Musical?

ashkent7 16 Jul 2016 20:08
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615027)
I have so much support here !! Right !!!
Without doubt. The album is straight in my top three albums. I can never remember hearing an album ever, by anyone, that was just right there in my heart like this one. That was the reason i had to send Jim the review, because to me it is almost indescribable to put the whole thing in words...must be why it took nearly 4000 of them when all was said and done.

And i think, particularly songs like Skulls (the last couple of minutes are like a direct response to what has been happening in France and Turkey these last few days and what will no doubt continue to happen in this tragic world we live in) and Godz actually have more relevance today than they did when Jim wrote them in the 60s. Everything has a time and they have definitely come at the right time.

stretch37 16 Jul 2016 20:16
Quote:
Originally Posted by ashkent7 (Post 615044)
Without doubt. The album is straight in my top three albums. I can never remember hearing an album ever, by anyone, that was just right there in my heart like this one. That was the reason i had to send Jim the review, because to me it is almost indescribable to put the whole thing in words...must be why it took nearly 4000 of them when all was said and done.

And i think, particularly songs like Skulls (the last couple of minutes are like a direct response to what has been happening in France and Turkey these last few days and what will no doubt continue to happen in this tragic world we live in) and Godz actually have more relevance today than they did when Jim wrote them in the 60s. Everything has a time and they have definitely come at the right time.
That was you? Amazing review I read it a few weeks ago. Best Meat Loaf review I've ever read.

Wario 16 Jul 2016 20:21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny L (Post 615040)
Maybe the song's contractually tied up in BOOH The Musical?
lets hope thats why. or hes literally satan.

nikox1 16 Jul 2016 20:29
Tied up to the musical and different label

Fire Ball 16 Jul 2016 22:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by renegadeangel (Post 614992)
Very doubtful. If BRAVER gets heavily trashed when it comes out I think Meat will call it a day. Ifit goes over we might see a song or two from the BAT musical come out on another greatest hits package or from the BAT soundtrack,
Now if BAT the musical goes down in flames much like DANCE OF THE VAMPIRES and BRAVER does well, maybe Jim will want to do something more with Meat as he tends to run back to Meat when other projects don't work out

Jim and I thank you for the positive attitude for both projects . Nice going !!
I have already called it a day , there are no more tours ... Just the promo tour for the record !!

ashkent7 16 Jul 2016 22:23
Quote:
Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 615045)
That was you? Amazing review I read it a few weeks ago. Best Meat Loaf review I've ever read.
Thanks :oops:

The strangest thing about it is that i have written reviews for websites and small publications for around 10 years, and most of the time as it has been freelance I've had free reign of what I reviewed...but in all that time I have never felt as compelled to write as much as for this album, and every time I hear parts of it again I always feel like there is so much more to write.

As much as Jim was pleased I "got" the album, i was just as pleased he "got" the passion behind it.

Danny L 16 Jul 2016 22:30
I hope hope hope both projects will be recieved well. Bat Out of Hell is both of your legacies - the songs will be performed in theatres across the world and maybe beyond forever

Braver really sounds great, yes its a niche audience thing but I hope people get it I really do. I remember Couldn't Have Said It Better didn't do nearly as good as it should have done in the charts, so diappointing it was a very good album

nikox1 16 Jul 2016 23:01
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny L (Post 615051)
I hope hope hope both projects will be recieved well. Bat Out of Hell is both of your legacies - the songs will be performed in theatres across the world and maybe beyond forever

Braver really sounds great, yes its a niche audience thing but I hope people get it I really do. I remember Couldn't Have Said It Better didn't do nearly as good as it should have done in the charts, so diappointing it was a very good album
It did ok, but I know what you mean

tonyloaf 16 Jul 2016 23:14
I'm waiting for the album to come out before I have a listen :)

Excited!

Meat ignore and look at the people who support you. It's way!!!! Bigger

nikox1 16 Jul 2016 23:24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615049)
Jim and I thank you for the positive attitude for both projects . Nice going !!
I have already called it a day , there are no more tours ... Just the promo tour for the record !!
So your not coming to UK and Ireland??? For a tour???:shock:

Danny L 16 Jul 2016 23:46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615049)
I have already called it a day , there are no more tours ... Just the promo tour for the record !!
Are you doing any more concerts or is the 'promo tour' just media appearances?

Fire Ball 16 Jul 2016 23:49
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wario (Post 615046)
lets hope thats why. or hes literally satan.
Take pick #2 .

AndrewG 17 Jul 2016 00:01
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615049)
Jim and I thank you for the positive attitude for both projects . Nice going !!
I have already called it a day , there are no more tours ... Just the promo tour for the record !!
Don't be mad Meat. Everyone here wants you to succeed and be happy in what you do. :-)

CarylB 17 Jul 2016 02:19
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikox1 (Post 615059)
So your not coming to UK and Ireland??? For a tour???:shock:
He didn't say that .. Do you think hat the UK/Europe tour won't promote the album? He's already posted the start date In January

stretch37 17 Jul 2016 02:32
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 615063)
He didn't say that .. Do you think hat the UK/Europe tour won't promote the album? He's already posted the start date In January

How he worded it, it sounds like Meat may have changed his plans. Sounds like he just mean he's doing the press tour now.

I don't blame him at all. Sounds like after the Canadian tour and last US tour and all the junk that wen't along with them, he's like 'Cheque please, I'm out'....To which I don't blame him at all if that's the case...It's almost a relief to it, ya know. Why fight it? Just do what you love. And focus on your health!

nikox1 17 Jul 2016 02:44
Quote:
Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 615064)
How he worded it, it sounds like Meat may have changed his plans. Sounds like he just mean he's doing the press tour now.

I don't blame him at all. Sounds like after the Canadian tour and last US tour and all the junk that wen't along with them, he's like 'Cheque please, I'm out'....To which I don't blame him at all if that's the case...It's almost a relief to it, ya know. Why fight it? Just do what you love. And focus on your health!
To me it sounded like he wasn't planning to tour now? I was just making sure, Meats posts can be cryptic sometimes:D

nikox1 17 Jul 2016 02:45
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 615063)
He didn't say that .. Do you think hat the UK/Europe tour won't promote the album? He's already posted the start date In January
I posted here a year ago telling you he would be touring;)
But it was just the way he worded it
Anyway no harm done
Have a good evening

ashkent7 17 Jul 2016 02:56
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615049)
Jim and I thank you for the positive attitude for both projects . Nice going !!
I have already called it a day , there are no more tours ... Just the promo tour for the record !!
Meat, whatever you do, do it for you now. You've given more to your fans than anyone else - especially considering you've been against the grain of the mainstream industry from the start.

I remember something said once and it came up again not long ago. "When was it cool to like Meat Loaf?" And i honestly think that rightly it has never been cool to like Meat Loaf...if it had then you (and especially with Jim) would have been doing something wrong. It's never been about being cool...and inadvertently that's what makes it so cool you could stick a hat on it and call it Frosty the Snowman.

I think it may sound familiar, and I'm sure everyone will echo the sentiment, from every one of us to you, from our heart to your soul, we say thank you very very much and there isn't a single one of us who will ever, EVER, stop rocking! And i think, additional to the lyrics, THAT is the one thing you and we wouldn't do for love.

nikox1 17 Jul 2016 03:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by ashkent7 (Post 615067)
Meat, whatever you do, do it for you now. You've given more to your fans than anyone else - especially considering you've been against the grain of the mainstream industry from the start.

I remember something said once and it came up again not long ago. "When was it cool to like Meat Loaf?" And i honestly think that rightly it has never been cool to like Meat Loaf...if it had then you (and especially with Jim) would have been doing something wrong. It's never been about being cool...and inadvertently that's what makes it so cool you could stick a hat on it and call it Frosty the Snowman.

I think it may sound familiar, and I'm sure everyone will echo the sentiment, from every one of us to you, from our heart to your soul, we say thank you very very much and there isn't a single one of us who will ever, EVER, stop rocking! And i think, additional to the lyrics, THAT is the one thing you and we wouldn't do for love.
Well said , yeah just enjoy it Meat!!! We all will

Vickip 17 Jul 2016 03:25
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Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 615063)
He didn't say that .. Do you think hat the UK/Europe tour won't promote the album? He's already posted the start date In January
Exactly, and I'm sure he'll still do the promotional tour as a final goodbye to his fans in the USA this fall.

CarylB 17 Jul 2016 12:38
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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 615069)
Exactly, and I'm sure he'll still do the promotional tour as a final goodbye to his fans in the USA this fall.
Without a shadow of a doubt. As he said, after "the promo tour". How many current articles have we seen abut his new fitness regime to get in shape for the next leg in the USA? How many times has he said the weight he intends to be when he starts his last tour in the UK in January? I am sure that what he posted refers to the fact that after the contracted dates he already has in his schedule there is no intention to do any more touring in the future.

Danny L 17 Jul 2016 15:32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615049)
I have already called it a day , there are no more tours ... Just the promo tour for the record !!
Meat could you clarify this please? Are the gigs you said for the new year effectively cancelled?

loaferman61 17 Jul 2016 16:07
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615027)
I have so much support here !! Right !!!
Yes! Jim has pretty much summed up my thoughts far better than I could have. I love this album. I like the way your voice sounds, so real, and shows your acting the songs as a character telling a story beautifully.

Most listeners and reviewers who are used to lifeless auto-tuned dreck won't get it. But those of us around since 78 will. My only debate is where to rank this alongside Bat and Bat 2.

LucyK! 17 Jul 2016 20:06
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615027)
I have so much support here !! Right !!!
Have you seen the reviews from those who heard the tracks when the album leaked? Every post is positive - every single one, I don't think I've ever seen that happen!

People are LOVING IT!!!! It's Meat and Jim, and it's right - we love ya!

Fire Ball 17 Jul 2016 20:40
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 615071)
Without a shadow of a doubt. As he said, after "the promo tour". How many current articles have we seen abut his new fitness regime to get in shape for the next leg in the USA? How many times has he said the weight he intends to be when he starts his last tour in the UK in January? I am sure that what he posted refers to the fact that after the contracted dates he already has in his schedule there is no intention to do any more touring in the future.
NO,
I have hurt my back really bad this time and as of right now except the promo tour which is going to hurt like hell to get through . I think touring days are over . M

nikox1 17 Jul 2016 20:50
Sorry to hear that Meat:(
But that's the way I thought you ment it when you posted.
Best wishes Meat

CarylB 17 Jul 2016 21:02
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615075)
NO,
I have hurt my back really bad this time and as of right now except the promo tour which is going to hurt like hell to get through . I think touring days are over . M
Very sorry to hear that Meat

anotherday 17 Jul 2016 21:19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615075)
NO,
I have hurt my back really bad this time and as of right now except the promo tour which is going to hurt like hell to get through . I think touring days are over . M
:'( Oh no. Oh Meat...I'm so sorry. I really hope you heal up well and are able to get back out there for one final go-round. But if not, I will never forget the shows you gave to my, the shows you gave to my boyfriend, and the connection we both feel to you, your music, and to each other because of your music.

Love always,

AnotherDay

PanicLord 17 Jul 2016 22:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615075)
NO,
I have hurt my back really bad this time and as of right now except the promo tour which is going to hurt like hell to get through . I think touring days are over . M
Real sorry to hear that Meat. You are one of a kind... there is no one else who performs a show like you do. Will miss seeing you out on the road, but we will always have the Royal Albert Hall 😀

Take care of yourself.

Love you always, Simon

loaferman61 17 Jul 2016 23:07
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615075)
NO,
I have hurt my back really bad this time and as of right now except the promo tour which is going to hurt like hell to get through . I think touring days are over . M
Very sorry to hear you are in pain and hope you feel better soon. Take care of yourself. We will all miss you out there performing like no other, but thank you for all the great years you have worked so hard to entertain millions. Thank you from my heart.

Vickip 17 Jul 2016 23:25
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615075)
NO,
I have hurt my back really bad this time and as of right now except the promo tour which is going to hurt like hell to get through . I think touring days are over . M
I'm so sorry to hear that Meat :( Thank you for all of the amazing shows I have seen, and please take care :heart:

Wario 18 Jul 2016 07:34
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615075)
NO,
I have hurt my back really bad this time and as of right now except the promo tour which is going to hurt like hell to get through . I think touring days are over . M
ah well, so close to possibly getting MASCULINE after a 25 year hiatus
but your health comes first Meat :)

Who honestly knows what the future will bring.

As Jim says "If life is just a highway, the soul is just a car"
And the GPS tells us that there are still a lot more miles to go before our exit.....

eltmatt 18 Jul 2016 17:20
This is sad news, I was very much looking forward to seeing you live next year.

Oh well your health does absolutely come first, and we still have a new album to look forward to :)

nikox1 18 Jul 2016 17:53
Let's see what happens? It's up to Meat what he decides to do.
I'll keep my ticket money safe for a few more weeks just in case he feels better and decides to go ahead with the tour. I was planning Dublin, Belfast, and a London gig:D,, but we will see what happens?

Vickip 18 Jul 2016 18:43
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Originally Posted by nikox1 (Post 615099)
Let's see what happens? It's up to Meat what he decides to do.
I'll keep my ticket money safe for a few more weeks just in case he feels better and decides to go ahead with the tour. I was planning Dublin, Belfast, and a London gig:D,, but we will see what happens?
Exactly. The fall is an extremely busy time for me (working retail during the holidays) and I was hoping to see him once here in the USA. But if he doesn't feel up to it in October or November, maybe he'll be able to postpone the shows he was planning for the fall to the summer after he comes back from the UK ?

I was extremely lucky I got to see some great shows this year, but I would love to opportunity to see him live just one more time :D We'll have to wait and see what happens.

nikox1 18 Jul 2016 18:46
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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 615102)
Exactly. The fall is an extremely busy time for me (working retail during the holidays) and I was hoping to see him once here in the USA. But if he doesn't feel up to it in October or November, maybe he'll be able to postpone the shows he was planning for the fall to the summer after he comes back from the UK ?

I was extremely lucky I got to see some great shows this year, but I would love to opportunity to see him live just one more time :D We'll have to wait and see what happens.
I'd say the USA have more chance of concerts at the moment.
Not so much travelling, but we will see?

Vickip 18 Jul 2016 19:17
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Originally Posted by nikox1 (Post 615103)
I'd say the USA have more chance of concerts at the moment.
Not so much travelling, but we will see?
Excellent point. Yes, we'll just have to wait and see.

Sue K 18 Jul 2016 19:22
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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 615102)
Exactly. The fall is an extremely busy time for me (working retail during the holidays) and I was hoping to see him once here in the USA. But if he doesn't feel up to it in October or November, maybe he'll be able to postpone the shows he was planning for the fall to the summer after he comes back from the UK ?

I was extremely lucky I got to see some great shows this year, but I would love to opportunity to see him live just one more time :D We'll have to wait and see what happens.
I feel so blessed that I'm retired so whatever / whenever Meat decides is good for me ... :D ... Most important is Meat's health and I hope he's doing well on his health regime ...

Vickip 18 Jul 2016 19:52
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Originally Posted by Sue K (Post 615105)
I feel so blessed that I'm retired so whatever / whenever Meat decides is good for me ... :D ... Most important is Meat's health and I hope he's doing well on his health regime ...
:up: :up:

melon 18 Jul 2016 20:02
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615075)

NO,
I have hurt my back really bad this time and as of right now except the promo tour which is going to hurt like hell to get through . I think touring days are over . M
Very sorry to hear that Meat. I appreciate everything you do, you've got support from this little part of the world :)

Sent from my SM-G925I using Forum Runner

Fire Ball 18 Jul 2016 22:35
Tour
 
They are going to announce a European tour on the 25th of July and Tickets will go on sale Aug 5th . M

Vickip 18 Jul 2016 22:37
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615120)
They are going to announce a European tour on the 25th of July and Tickets will go on sale Aug 5th . M
Any update about the USA tour Meat ?

anotherday 18 Jul 2016 23:15
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615120)
They are going to announce a European tour on the 25th of July and Tickets will go on sale Aug 5th . M
Excuse me while I cry tears of joy for all of your UK fans.

nikox1 19 Jul 2016 00:08
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615120)
They are going to announce a European tour on the 25th of July and Tickets will go on sale Aug 5th . M
That's better:D

Vickip 19 Jul 2016 00:10
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Originally Posted by nikox1 (Post 615131)
That's better:D
Guess that answers your question in the other thread :-P

nikox1 19 Jul 2016 00:16
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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 615132)
Guess that answers your question in the other thread :-P
Yeah it does, I didn't see this until after I posted
Time to see the bank manager:D

Vickip 19 Jul 2016 00:21
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikox1 (Post 615133)
Yeah it does, I didn't see this until after I posted
Time to see the bank manager:D
:up: :D

loaferman61 19 Jul 2016 01:25
Happy to hear there will be some more shows. Hoping Meat feels better every day. Maybe there could be a recording released?? Pretty please.

Of course a US show in North Carolina would be a dream. For this I will travel, when you live in the country everywhere is a trip anyway.:D

tonyloaf 19 Jul 2016 02:07
Ready and waiting !!!

tonyloaf 19 Jul 2016 02:08
I'm actually already on ticketmaster trying to refresh page :)

NightAngel 19 Jul 2016 02:49
M, That is the best news today! Ill be there!!!💙 love ya!xxx

renegadeangel 19 Jul 2016 20:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615049)
Jim and I thank you for the positive attitude for both projects . Nice going !!
I have already called it a day , there are no more tours ... Just the promo tour for the record !!
I have a positive attitude towards both. BRAVER is a work of art. The musical I can't speak of as yet as I don't know much about it. I will go see it when it is out though.
I am only looking back on history and though I believe you about touring but I guess I have a fans eternal optimism that maybe, just maybe there might be something else...

nikox1 19 Jul 2016 20:18
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Originally Posted by renegadeangel (Post 615163)
I have a positive attitude towards both. BRAVER is a work of art. The musical I can't speak of as yet as I don't know much about it. I will go see it when it is out though.
I am only looking back on history and though I believe you about touring but I guess I have a fans eternal optimism that maybe, just maybe there might be something else...
I know and understand how hard the touring must be, and considering what Meat puts into a show, I'm amazed he has lasted so long. So every show we get from now on = is a 100% bonus.
But I just can't see Meat not recording ever again, who knows?

Fire Ball 19 Jul 2016 23:24
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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 615122)
Any update about the USA tour Meat ?
No US tour before Europe !! M

Fire Ball 19 Jul 2016 23:26
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Originally Posted by tonyloaf (Post 615138)
I'm actually already on ticketmaster trying to refresh page :)
Tickets should be on sale Aug 5th !! If they are not let me know !! Thanks M

LucyK! 19 Jul 2016 23:28
My bank are going to be sooooo mad...I said my USA tour in October/November was the last one...told them the same in March...!

Vickip 19 Jul 2016 23:50
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615176)
No US tour before Europe !! M
Thanks for the update :D Spring / Summer works out better for me anyway .. and I can be extremely patient :D
Vicki

Vickip 20 Jul 2016 04:55
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615176)
No US tour before Europe !! M
On second thought ... just out of curiosity, if all goes well, does this mean there is still a possibility for a small US tour after Europe ? As a final goodbye perhaps to your fans here ?

Thanks
Vicki

NightAngel 21 Jul 2016 02:50
I have been away for a few days. Catching up now. Take care of that back, Meat.

Did I mention I am there in the UK! If you're there I am coming!!!! :D

You've always got my support btw. xx
:-)

jcmoorehead 21 Jul 2016 08:25
Hoping there is a Newcastle date and that I can afford it. Unfortunately have a convention at the end of the month that I need to keep money for. Really don't want to miss this tour though.

roomster 25 Jul 2016 15:19
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615120)
They are going to announce a European tour on the 25th of July and Tickets will go on sale Aug 5th . M
Any announcements yet?

I have tried to search Ticketmaster etc., but with no luck so far.

nikox1 25 Jul 2016 16:29
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Originally Posted by roomster (Post 615413)
Any announcements yet?

I have tried to search Ticketmaster etc., but with no luck so far.
I think Meat said on Facebook it's not August 5th anymore

CarylB 25 Jul 2016 19:01
Aug 5th was the on-sale date which he said had been deferred. He said dates would be announced on 25 July, but this may have also been deferred by some days I guess

tonyloaf 27 Jul 2016 00:38
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Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 615178)
Tickets should be on sale Aug 5th !! If they are not let me know !! Thanks M
Will do! Thanks !


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