Legacy
 

Very serious (slightly morbid) question: Who is going to keep this very special brand of music alive? There really is nobody out there I can think of who 'gets' it. The music industry doesn't give a damn. Meat Loaf thinks he's invincible... yet there are millions of people who live and breathe this music and millions more who are yet to discover it... for this we require an ambassador, someone with belief and vision that goes beyond the commercial.

Meat Loaf / Steinman music is timeless but the people delivering it are mere mortals who will, one day, expire.

Is someone on the case with this?!

Perhaps we need a reality show ASAP :o)

I never thought somebody could top Wario for such a random post lol

What makes Meat/Jim so unique is that there isn't anything else like it. It can not be duplicated. The few imitations and similar attempts at sounding like Meat Loaf (occasional Avantasia, Katrina and the "Nameless") etc. fall far short. This is the real deal and there is only one.

I agree. Unique

BAT OUT OF HELL The Musical. There I said it. And I guess tribute acts.

Pro shows, college/school productions, community theatre clubs etc. Hell it might even be made as a movie someday.

And of course ongoing replays on radio.

Not to mention the whole new generation of singers who are just emerging and recording Jim's songs (which you'll be hearing about very soon).

C'mon guys! Nobody. Since the 90ies music indutsry is different and Meat and his range wasn't very fresh on that time.

their legacy was, is and will continue to be, these magnificent stories delivered to us by a magnificent story teller, bringing so many aspects of the "human condition" to life.

timeless enjoyment, escapism, despair, rapture, passion and so on, for anyone who wants it

People will just remember, re-enact a bit here and there but it will never be quite the same.
See Joplin, Hendrix, The Doors, The Beatles (it was VERY short lived but people still talk about it re-enact it etc), Abba.
I actually think a lot of "the legacy" is already in the past. In 50 years time people will still talk about Bat but doubt many will talk about HCTB. The musical might have some legs but there is no way of knowing till a few years down the line. It may only last a year or two. Love Never Dies people already don't care about. People have also pretty much already forgotten about Whistle Down the Wind and considering the two names involved that is surprising too. There are only so many things artists and auteurs get remembered for in the long run. Most people will remember George Lucas for Star Wars but won't give a crap about THX1138 or the Ewok adventure movies. etc... Fans will know and still collect it all and that's ok too. ;-)

Then again, if you look at Johnny Cash's American Series of albums, released both when the was alive, then grieving the loss of June Carter Cash, and then posthumously, they are some of the most discussed albums of his career.

They made me a later fan of Cash, and are highly acclaimed later works by the artist.

Many artist have this happen. Just look at Ian Mckellen (Gandalf) or Michael Gambon (Dumbledore) or Ian Holm (Old Bilbo) or Betty White, or Kirk Douglas, who have become famous in new ways as older people.

I'd say don't rule out late career successes with Meat.

And after listening to BTWA for awhile now, I can say that it is on par with Cash's American Series, jsut with better vocals because Meat's not quite that old yet, although he does have some bumps and bruises ;)

It's a good point. I think though for me that final legacy song surely would have to be What Part of My Body for Meat. A shame it won't be on Braver. It deserves to be imo. Cast albums just never are my favourites. They never seem to do either the musicals or artists justice somehow. Still haven't heard the long version of GATW so I can't judge that one nor some of the others in entirety on Braver.

Meat has surely created a large legacy in terms of music .. and although Bat Out of Hell will always be the album most remembered, as long as it can be bought it is likely to encourage listeners to explore other albums. Steinman has created a legacy of songs that people will continue to record. Meat also will continue acting, and when he leaves touring behind, is I think likely to build on the reputation he has gained so far, and with more time to devote to this strand of his career, may well make a much wider mark in film, even TV.

Ian Mckellen, Michael Gambon and Ian Holm were of course pretty well known in their own country before the roles you mention Stretch ;) But were Meat in future to get a role in a film that was a huge success like those, it would certainly put him on a wider map, even though that is not his objective.

Yeah well even Ian Holm was popular in the US and Canada back when Alies came out. But I mean Ian McKellen had a great low career success. Patrick Stewart did too with x-meno. Christopher Lee with saruman. And yes of course Michael gam von was huge way before Harry Potter:P

Meat Loaf's legacy is already set. He proved that if you keep going you can break through. Jim's songs will be sung for many many years to come. They keep getting reinvented and along as there are teenagers, there will be a need for Jim's songs.

No one can carry the Steinman/Loaf torch after they have gone but the torch will continue to burn brightly for all of those who don't want to be left in the dark.

WTF was I smoking last night lol. Great spelling.

Their Kfc is Bat.


This is all that needs to be said. Boom. Done

Meat's still in good shape for his age considering even some people 10 years younger

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/paul-dianno-cancer/

Don't know much about Iron Maiden but thought Bruce Dickinson was their front man. :sherlock:

He still is. This guy was the original singer but he was much different than Bruce.

40+ million sales
519 weeks on the charts
7 songs
The voice and the genius
Nothing need be added

LEGACY not kfc wtf

They probably do use bats for chicken meat at KFC. Tastes like shit. Ozzie should know.

BAT OUT OF HELL is the 19th best selling album in the UK of all time

What not number 5??

He's correct according to this.
Still impressive beating the likes of Jagged Little Pill, The Joshua Tree, Graceland, Grease, Abba Greatest Hits (original 70s release), Spice Girls, Lady Ga Ga and any of Coldplay's albums etc.

It's 3rd worldwide

Most likely 4th or 5th. Kinda depends on the lists you find.

Just a few sources:

http://www.nme.com/photos/the-50-bes...5120#/photo/46

http://mentalfloss.com/article/62536...albums-history (This one has the Eagles on #1)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...selling_albums

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_...ums_wereldwijd

http://www.rankings.com/music-albums-worldwide/ (Bat at #4)

http://www.gigwise.com/photos/101122...test-hits-abba (#4 again)

http://www.rankings.com/music-albums-worldwide/ (#4)

There doesn't seem to be a definitive list.

There doesn't need to be a definite list

When you're a god you don't need one

Amazon uk need to restock vinyl BTWA and double cd BTWA. So a fair amount of pre orders

yeah well I'm assuming that nikox1's list comes right from a record company, so it's probably accurate enough. Not sure where those websites get their rankings but I would hazard a guess that insider information is probably more accurate than stuff that's on a web article.

Also, Rankings.com shows it as 4th but it lookslike it's actually a tie, with both selling 43 million records. They can't be exactly tied, but for all intents and purposes, it shows them as tied.

But perhaps if you get down to the nitty gritty bat is actually 3rd

Prepare to be bored lol!!!
Albums from the 60,s and 70,s are very near impossible to define sales for.
A lot of older albums are estimated by shipments, shipments won't always be declared by labels cough cough:D, for obvious reasons.
Only last year in the UK they began automatically certifying albums and singles when they hit a given sales mark. Before labels would have to apply for them.
Bat out of hell received its extra 3 platinum awards only this year, it had 7 for years. Now it has 10. In fact another 85,000 sales and it will get its 11th.
It's sold 3,215,000 copies in the UK to date.
Since soundscan sales systems began in the early 90,s it's made sales easier to track. Since 91 Bat has sold 11.5 million worldwide, it really is a freak of nature

No way Bat is #19 and way lower than Simply Red on the all-time best sellers list. That has to be based on Bat having a high chart position of 9 and the number of weeks. It is all in the criteria used.

There is not going to be much chart movement based on sales in this day and time except for when a Michael Jackson level performer dies.

After all though Meat has never defined success by numbers although he easily could do so since he has the numbers. What Meat and Jim have literally can never be duplicated. The ability of artist and songwriter/producer to have such a synergy and flow with each other is a once in a lifetime match. Only really Elton John/Bernie Taupin even rate close IMO.

Meat and Jim's legacy is literally the magic, not to be seen again.

Bat was a very slow burner in the UK , it didn't hit its chart peak until 1981
Over time it has sold very well. Positions 14 - 20 are separated by little more than 200,000

According to Guinness book of Records (aren't they the most official?) Bat is #6

That said, who really cares. No matter if it's 3 or 10, the album has reached an incredible achievement. The only real consistent album is Thriller. In practically every list it has the #1 spot

Something I didn't know but was very amused to read is that in 2015, in the UK, Elvis Presley had the 4th biggest album of the year with If I can Dream. :shock:

True dude, yeah elvis had a whopper hit over a million sales in the end

Steering away from topic but wow. Rock and roll trully never dies :shock::D

All I'm saying is I pulled out a cracking For Cryin' Out Loud when I was drunk on Karaoke.

Such reviews of "Are all your songs tonight as long as that?" "It wasn't as bad as some of the songs you've done".

Yeah I'd say Guiness is pretty official ;)

Exactly, who caaares exactly where, top 10 records in the entire world is not too shabby :cool:

5 revers to ever in the world. Not just the UK