RockTellz & CockTails presents Meat Loaf
 

Exciting stuff. Not sure if this should go here of tour talk but here you go.


Sep 26th - Nov 5th


On sale 8/2/2013







VIP TABLE SEATING
US $155.00 - US $756.00
US $155.00 Ticket + US $33.75 Fees/Additional Taxes =
US $188.75 US $756.00 Ticket + US $107.95 Fees/Additional Taxes =
US $863.95

ORCHESTRA LEVEL SEATING
US $75.00 - US $155.00
US $75.00 Ticket + US $19.85 Fees/Additional Taxes =
US $94.85 US $155.00 Ticket + US $33.75 Fees/Additional Taxes =
US $188.75

BANQUETTE SEATING
US $115.00 - US $155.00
US $115.00 Ticket + US $26.80 Fees/Additional Taxes =
US $141.80 US $155.00 Ticket + US $33.75 Fees/Additional Taxes =
US $188.75

LOWER MEZZANINE
US $95.00
US $95.00 Ticket + US $24.30 Fees/Additional Taxes =
US $119.30

UPPER MEZZANINE
US $75.00
US $75.00 Ticket + US $19.85 Fees/Additional Taxes =
US $94.85



http://www.ticketmaster.com/Meat-Loa...dp_Artist_Name

looks solid but lets all wait for the comfirmed news

756 dollars? WTF

That's only for VIP service. Most casinos have it. People love that in LV.

But I'd assume they'd get the seating in front of the stage?

Well, I'd hope so but I don't know. :-)

I thought that

Be interesting to see what the "VIP package" contains to make it worth £500+.

Is it Meat's vip or venue vip? Can't see it being his at that price...

So fans are in the wings and Meat's faced with people drinking, talking and ordering food in front of the stage...

May be these people setting the prices Lucy?:

http://rocktellz.com/


Here is the seating plan:

http://i.imgur.com/lVpsZ1g.gif

So yeah, high-rollers front and centre.

Gotta admit that kind of sucks, and the prices are through the roof.

excellent news!!

This seems to be the format, suggests will be a number of different artists from September onwards, similar to Storytellers format:

http://www.rocktellz.com/

Interesting...cant afford it sadly

I don't think you're the only one!

You have got to be kidding me....really?

REALLY???

A "cheap seat" is going to cost $94.85 PLUS an additional tax that cannot be included in the display price! Yes, the prices on the Last At Bat Tour were high...but nothing like this.

I am very disappointed...but good luck with this endeavor. I just cannot afford it.

Last at bat tour tickets were normal price, if you compare them with other artist meats was cheaper

Yeah I found LAB to be well priced compared to other artists. Heck the Meet & Greets were a steal in comparison.

If its a storytellers type show meat focusses on the first few rows. great. not bothering with this shit

Sounds intriguing. .. can't wait till we have full details! Feed me with info!

Not necessarily. I have seen a news item saying Rocktellz and Cocktails takes over from the stripper show in the Planet Hollywood Showroom. That has catwalks from the stage and puts VIP seating around those. This plan talks about "Gold Circle" rather than VIP, and TM lists VIP tickets, not Gold Circle, and the TM listings correspond exactly with the seating in Showroom

This is the Showroom plan:

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps83e71575.gif

There is no indication of what the VIP seating includes, and one can only hope Meat is able to make his announcement soon to clarify things. The prices are high, yes. But I suspect largely the pricing is something not within Meat's control. TM listed these some days ago, and the VIP tickets were over $1000. Meat had the listings taken down. Until he confirms who knows that TM have them right now .. :shrug: He also said at Nottingham that M&Gs would be on one night each week, and TM list the same ticket prices for every night.

Meat never focuses on the first few rows. In Storytellers he covered more than the first rows with the microphone, and sang to the entire theatre.

NOTHING Meat does is "shit" Chris :roll:

Prices are always high in Vegas especially for entertainment. For casinos VIP are usually high rollers or celebrities. What TM means? Who knows?

I saw Elton John in LV a few months ago and tickets were $100.00 for balcony. Same for Meat I guess.

I'll try for something on Friday. :-)

Very true. $95 for a Vegas show is pretty reasonable. FWIW, the venue looks tiny- even a "crap" seat is probably very good, unless one abslutely needs to be in the front row.

I wonder when/if they will release the whole list of artists? I'd be curious to see who else might be appearing.

mlukfc members should hire a table :)

and yes mel they do long iland and kangaroo

:D

I guess we have to go now.... :mrgreen:
Let's rock LV.

~~~~ing expensive. I seem to remember Meat saying the show was quite short as well.

Still wait to see what Meat has to tell us first tho

I wonder if Phil, Stu,Alan & Doug are going.:-)

Same difference. VIP seating is still at the front. The catwalks will most likely not be there for Meat.

Well yeah but then again if I was paying that kind of money I'd be expecting to get the best seats in front of the stage.

Yes, although I don't see how they're the same difference. The showroom layout makes it look as though (as Julie says) the venue is smaller, and it isn't the same at all .. a quite different layout, with seats in every section being listed on TM, so to say "High rollers front and centre" is a bit of a stretch imo, and the one I posted gives a more accurate picture of where the seats are.

Hell for that money I expect they let me be part of the band :lol:

That would be good to see :)

High rollers getting the best seats are a standard practice in all casinos. Doesn't matter if it's LV or Indian casinos. Yes, some tickets are sold to the general public but the casinos reward their regular players generously.

Pity...I really wanted to see him but those prices combined with a $400+ flight and a hotel stay...I just can't afford it.
Its a neat venture...I'm certain that everyone that gets to go will have an amazing time. I just wish we'd had the same "Last at Bat" tour option over here...sigh

:yep: Meat did say there's a possibility that he'll be bringing the "Last at Bat" to tour to NY next year ... so fingers crossed we may finally get our chance to see it :-)

This really does sound like a great show, and I wish Meat all the luck in the world with it :

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013...ocktails-plan/

This show has just been confirmed on Meat's official Facebook page - there's a poster up there, etc.

Yep .. and I love the poster :D

Hope whoever from the UK that can make it has a wonderful time; there's no way I could justify flying to the US cost wise for at least another year sadly but I cannot wait to hear the setlist!

Someone posted on fb a link to Travel Zoo Pre sale on sale right now. Excluding TZoo it looks like TM's prices are correct.

http://www.travelzoo.com/entertainme...deal%3A1531489

It appears $863 gets you VIP ROW1 SEAT1 $188 will get you in row 11.

Wow that is insane prices even for Vegas. I saw Elton John there in 2006 and paid $100 but I was in the 5th row for that show

"Row" seems a big misleading actually as the VIP are a choice of table, banquette or row seating .. and even when you book a table seat you get a row number

:twisted: I think it'll be the casino.
Meat has been booked to play Vegas by the casino. That pretty much makes him an employee of the casino and hotel.
The casino pays the bills and the wages, so the casino can do pretty much what they like, and it wouldn't be good business to offer their own VIP package but allow their employee to offer an alternative (and probably better) package at a cheaper price. :nuts:

The casino is only interested in the best interests of the casino, and with looking after the people who are going to spend a lot of money with them.
I think a lot of the tickets will be comped to high rollers, but even those who don't get comped, the prices will ensure that the best tickets will be available for the people who gone to Vegas with a suitcase full of money.

That might suck from a fans point of view, but Meat isn't in Vegas to perform for his fans, he's there as an attraction.


If it's a Storytellers type show, then the questions will naturally come from near the front (because A. it's more convenient and natural to talk to the people near you, and B. Because i'd be pretty pissed if I paid £500 for a ticket up front and Meat spent all night chatting to the folks at the back of the room. Casino no like pissed off high rollers) where folk are there because they spend a lot of money at the casino rather than have a intimate knowledge of Meat's work.
That being the case, I can't see the set list veering too far away from the classics.
Most of the high rollers (aka the very rich general public) will only likely have a working knowledge of the greatest hits rather than the more obscure album tracks and B sides.


I think we need to start a lottery pool first :lol:


A very good point :up:

I'm going to win it tonight anyway so I will buy you all a ticket :)

Well said. :-)

:twisted: Does this count as a written contract? :mrgreen:

Yes , I can confirm this is my contract :)

I have felt so left out down here in Texas. No last at bat here or anywhere drivable ( I drove to St. Louis once to see him, so I'd consider that OK ) It is too far to drive to NYC and I have a plane phobia. However, with IV Valium it maybe could be done. Or maybe Versed.

" No we're not the jet set
We're the old Chevrolet set
There's no Riviera
In Festus, Missouri

And you won't find Onasis
In Mullinville, Kansas
No, we're not the jet set
We're the old Chevrolet set
But ain't we got love?"
George Jones and Tammy Wynette

That is my hope Vicki! :p
NYC is way easier for me - AND I can see more than one show.
I really hate I can't get over to Vegas...it does sound pretty awesome. :(

Seems to be a very intimate show, perhaps low-key even.

http://www.rocktellz.com/

Expensive maybe, but not the usual Meat Loaf show. Could be interesting, but sadly, we can`t afford it this year :(

Maybe if Last at Bat goes to New York, we'll try for that ....

I second that Jo :up: My problem is the timing ... I would love to go, but I just can't plan that far ahead right now with everything else going on :-) Hopefully that'll change and I can grab a ticket later on when the time gets closer.

So, if we're understanding this right (and I think we are) the $863.95 VIP Package is the Meet and Greet.

I love ML more than I care to mention, but as a matter of principle I wouldn't pay that, whether I had the cash to do it or not, I wouldn't pay it. I appreciate we're talking about Vegas so there has to be room for inflated prices here and there but £577 for a M&G is above and beyond what's reasonable.

Congratulations to whoever does buy them - we thought we held the record for the smallest M&G in Finland in 2008 which had just 3 people but we could be about to lose it!! :lol:

Did it say it was a M&G too? I though it was for a seat and service? Hmmmmmm? I agree it's pricey.

And only an 80 min show

Yes, it includes a M&G after the show

Is there a link?

It's set out on TravelZoo .. the link you posted. " VIP Meet and Greet package for $756", which is the base price of the $863.95 offering

Ha!!!!! LOL! I glossed right over it. I went directly to their TM link. Thanks. Good stuff. :D

You're welcome .. the autographed red scarf is cool ;)

The page wasn't exactly the most helpful piece of layout .. but then the agency which has the biggest stranglehold on all on-line ticket sales has one of the poorest customer service departments, slowest loading and most frustrating sites, greediest surcharges, and the worst hieroglyphics to type in over and over again .. And for those with limited vision, the audio security is utterly unintelligible. They SO deserve to be the market leader!

Where does it say that?

Pretty sure Meat did on here.

It doesn't. Meat said at some point on here I think that the show would be around that length .. but quite a few things (including the venue) have changed from what he's been given to understand over the months. It's been a long process of planning, negotiating and contracting, and who knows what will have changed? (Hell .. Warrio hasn't designed the setlist yet! ;):lol:) So we'll find out when the shows start ;)

One thing we do know ..it will be a marvellous and special show :-)

Thanks!!

Just booked 2 tix on TZ $400 VIP table...ouch! at least i live in LA so pretty close..

WTF is Travelzoo? Pros and cons of booking with them? Will TM have better or worse seats on friday?
its getting more complicated...

Travelzoo links through to TM so it seems pretty legit.

Yes .. although you buy on TM from Travelzoo, and given some are likely to be held back from sale for the casino high rollers, if you can get something that seems good now, why not? It also gets the whole stressful process of buying tickets for a Meat show done and out of the way ;) You can then at least simply sit back and wait for the show with pleased anticipation .. :lol:

Just in case people missed this link. It tells more about the Rocktellz and Cocktails concept ;)

For Meat
 

Meat, please don't deprive us of a live version of "For Crying Out Loud", i have seen you over 150 times and never witnessed this song live!

I have to say I've been checking the TZoo site/link all day. I'm after front Mezz sec for multiply week day dates in Oct. All I get is a "sorry tickets are unavailable" notice but they add a suggestion of the same section and row of sec 202 row U every time I look it up. :(:oops::(

Well i don't think I can afford to go (I'm done school but my wife ain't for another year!) So here's hoping for un-official means of seeing it :twisted: ....that pic of Meat is facebook is HOT

That's a shame :( Hopefully you'll have better luck with TicketMaster tomorrow. Good luck !

Who do they expect to attend this thing, the trumps?

I sadly can't afford this. Praying for LAB in NYC. Annoyed at those ridiculous pompous prices.

omg I am sooo jealous........... Probably like erverybody else who can't go.
So have a lots of fun and take some pictures for us, ok? ;)

we all knew it would be pricey but that really does seem alot

i didnt win. f##k!!!

I might be wrong on this but from what I've heard they're fairly average sort of prices for Las Vegas. I agree that yes, some of the tickets are fairly pricey but they wouldn't charge that much if they thought that no one would be willing to pay it.

I'd have loved to have gone but even if I'd have sacrificed all of the UK shows I went to, I still wouldn't have been able to afford it. I'm disappointed to miss out on what looks to be an amazing show but that's life sometimes.

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I agree. Looking last week at tickets for performers I'd heard of, the basic ticket prices seem pretty comparable . and you have to bear in mind the stinging Las Vegas entertainment tax which is added to the base price.

Meat has kept his arena tour prices pretty low compared to other performers, and we've been lucky. Now he's playing a season in Vegas the prices are in line with big name headliners, and really I don't think most of the tickets are that high. The one which I suspect people are blenching at is the M&G option .. and even that is less than some performers charge here in arenas for M&G packages, often having huge numbers attending and little interaction with the performer.

We have imo been exceptionally lucky following Meat all these years. Hell .. 10 years ago I had to pay £85 for a 7th row ticket to see Elton John! I still think that most of the tickets for Meat's Vegas show are not excessive given the location, and pretty much what I expected.

Nobody has commented yet on the two cancelled shows in New York on the second page of the Ticketmaster site. Perhaps these are merely errors, but perhaps not.

I assumed they were one more TM ~~~~-up

Hummmm......

Those were two shows that were cancelled due to Hurricane Sandy last fall. Having said that, it is interesting that they're still listed on there ..... maybe there's a chance that Meat will do the shows if he is in fact planning on bringing the LAB tour to NY next year :??:

Excluding the M&G the ticket prices are comparable to many other Vegas shows. It really is true. I paid $95ish dollar for front mezzanine for his MMW tour in Los Angeles. So it looks about right for LV.

I lived and worked in Las Vegas for years and knowing that I saved for this show. I don't have the money for up front or a M&G but I have enough for mezzanine. I apologize if I come off as bragging to those you can't make it. That's not my intention. I just want people to know there is a silver lining. I look at it as I may not be able to sit next to the stage, do a M&G, stay at a "on the strip" hotel, or go to fancy restaurants but I'm still GOING.

Most likely I won't be able to see the LAB in NYC so this is my last chance to see Meat. I'm just thrilled! Beyond thrilled!

IMO you didn't sound like you were bragging at all :D I'm thrilled for you ! Enjoy every second of it :D

And that correlates closely to cost of tickets in UK arenas.

You don't .. and surely this kind of show in a small theatre will be fantastic wherever one is sitting :D

:twisted: Something I don't think has been touched on, the fact that the venue is much smaller.
The smaller the venue the less seats there are (and don't forget, this is tables, not concert seating that's designed to squeeze in as many bodies as possible).
The fewer seats there are, the higher the price of those seats must be to pay for the evening.

The MEN holds 21,000 people.
Does this place hold 1000?
If so, the tickets need to be 21 X the price of a ticket for the MEN for the same income.

This is obviously going to be a very special and intimate evening, and for special and intimate you've got to open the wallet a lot more :shrug:


Congrats to those who get to see the show.
I'm jealous as hell because i'm not going unless I win the lottery :lol:
Have a great time and don't forget the reviews and pics :up:

I think it holds about 12-1300, so yes, far smaller and more intimate. Tables are in the front VIP area, then there's a row of banquette seating, the conventional seating in three blocks behind. There's two blocks of orchestra seating, seem to be in three blocks across, and a mezzanine arranged similarly. I'd expect it to be fairly steeply banked, so everyone gets a great view of the stage.

Here's a better picture of the theatre:


http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps6c8aa348.gif

And really, leaving aside the cost of getting and staying there, the price of the tickets is imo pretty fair, and the lowest price no more than any arena ticket here. The M&G may seem high to fans used to a performer who has offered his at the low end of the scale on his tours (no surprise they sell out so fast over here .. London sold out within the first day) .. but Meat has made them lower the price by $250, so they're still much cheaper than those offered by other performers (and still cheaper than those offered by some performers over here on their arena tours!). And it's Vegas and he has no control over their entertainment tax, which leaves TM standing on the horizon :roll:

Yes, it will be a great show, and I'm sorry you can't make it :( But the biggest chunk is getting there. It was always going to be an expensive outing, but fr those who can manage it I'm sure it will be a wonderful show :-) And it keeps Meat performing with a whole lot less stress than being on tour for months! Which I think he's earned :-)

On the subject of ticket prices, I'm not in the least suprised with the prices, up to $200 is exactly what I would have expected for Vegas.

£577 for a meet and greet is not what I'd expect, from any artist. Had to laugh when they were plugged as "30 minutes" long...that's 15 minutes shorter than some of the ones we got this year, and £377 more! Inexplicable...

I believe that's not too bad actually compared to some artists. Have heard of Aerosmith charging $1000 and then there are cheaper tiers to meet just one of the band members etc. Bit silly but I guess that's the way.

I wouldn't have considered going to LV even if the tickets were 50 bucks. Glad I got my fix here in the UK though. Excellent tour it was and really can't ask for more than what I got. I do hope anyone going from here is going to enjoy it.

You simply cannot fairly compare Meat's low cost arena M&Gs with those in Vegas. We're just lucky he worked to keep the arena tour packages as low as he did imo. Base price at Vegas before taxes is $750 .. Bob Jovi's VIP packages for his show were over $1,000 and it didn't include a M&G. Most artists there of any renown are $1000, and Meat had them reduce his to $750. As to the length .. they're after the show, and I'm sure Meat will be there as long as it takes to make them special for those who attend

according to the caesars entertainment website you can get 20% discount between august 2nd and 4th if you are a member of their loyalty program total rewards. If you're not a member you can join here. hope this helps someone.

http://bit.ly/NF99rg

I sure will!!! and thanks!

For all of you who are lucky to go: have fun!

For all of you who can't go: he'll be back in Europe one day, maybe after the Brave and Crazy album is being released. I really hope so.... I'll be waiting...

Small write up about Meats Vegas show in daily express

After some thought I've decided I don't like the name. RockTales & CockTails would be better. :shrug:

So do I .. but this isn't like when Meat tours and the title is down to him .. he's the first headliner. Presumably the producer/creator decided on Rocktellz .. which looks faintly illiterate but perhaps they think it's more "Vegas"

Yeah, we're keen on the title either, anything that uses a Z in place of the correct usage of an S just isn't right. No matter how "down with the kids" you're trying to be :))

I'm surprised at the format really and wonder if that really fits Las Vegas (not that I care about LV as I doubt I'd ever go there). Surely a show aimed at high rollers / more premium is more about the entertainment than finding out backstories about how that entertainment came to being? I'm sure if the Stones did Las Vegas tickets would be astronomical beyond their normal astronomical prices. But would the average high roller who would see them in LV really care about what Keith and Mick were thinking about when they wrote Brown Sugar? Ie surely the hardcore fanbase who would find such things interesting are not going to be just located in LV and be able to afford such prices to see a Rocktellz show? The format and location and thus price seems a bit flawed to me. :shrug:

I'm glad Meat gave the average show goer such a wealth of backstory on all the Bat 1 songs on this last tour. In my opinion it made it quite complete for me. I simply cannot see what Rocktellz could do better in Las Vegas with all these artists for people I reckon on average are only there to be entertained at premium prices. :shrug:

But perhaps I am forgetting something in my argument above; the tellZ is probably a large part of the entertainment in a sense if done effectively but really I couldn't care two shits about background stories of music I don't care too much about. I think for me there are only 5 or so artists (including Meat and Bruce of course) by which long talks between songs I could endure. I saw some music shows on holiday and there were a bunch of guys who were pretty awesome when they were singing but I felt like walking out as their stories between songs were getting really boring. 60 minute show and only 30 minutes music I'd say.