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robgomm 27 Aug 2012 11:03

Previews of the Guilty Pleasure DVD up on Itunes!!!!
 
Hey guys Itunes now has preview samples up of all the tracks on the CD, about 1min30 of each song!!

If you have Itunes clikc on this link!!

http://itunes.apple.com/preorder/gui...Artist%20Alert

Must say it sounds f*****g awesome!!

ninja 27 Aug 2012 11:25

Must say it sounds f*****g awesome!![/QUOTE]

yeeesssss ... agree absolutely!!!
thank you for the link!

Cherry.Loaf 27 Aug 2012 11:27

My God Stand in the Storm is fantastic (only one I've heard so far!) btw you may need to set your country to UK as it's not showing up on the US itunes :D

Evil One 27 Aug 2012 11:33

And for those of us who don't want to install iTunes? :wall:

Play.com have the track times of the CD: http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Downlo...rlrefer=search

Mr. Happy 27 Aug 2012 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry.Loaf (Post 576160)
My God Stand in the Storm is fantastic (only one I've heard so far!) btw you may need to set your country to UK as it's not showing up on the US itunes :D

This is true, you can't see it in Australia either :|

Doesn't sound bad at all. I love the intros to Took the Words and Two out of Three, as well as all of Boneyard. Sounds like a kick ass version of Break It from the snippet, too. Where they alternate turns singing "break it!" at the end of the second chorus is just plain awesome. My only complaint is that Rock and Roll Dreams isn't on the CD. I don't want to have dig up the DVD just to hear that insane piano solo...oh well :P

They would have performed all of these exactly like this at the Melbourne show I attended, but I don't remember any of these specifics :shock: I must have been too stunned by how great it was to take in any fine detail :lol:

Evil One 27 Aug 2012 11:37

Amazon have the CD with samples: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guilty-Pleas...6060195&sr=8-2

Which has all of 10 seconds worth of Meat's singing between all of them. :bleh:

robgomm 27 Aug 2012 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 576163)

Cool, thanks!

robgomm 27 Aug 2012 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy (Post 576162)
This is true, you can't see it in Australia either :|

Doesn't sound bad at all. I love the intros to Took the Words and Two out of Three, as well as all of Boneyard. Sounds like a kick ass version of Break It from the snippet, too. Where they alternate turns singing "break it!" at the end of the second chorus is just plain awesome. My only complaint is that Rock and Roll Dreams isn't on the CD. I don't want to have dig up the DVD just to hear that insane piano solo...oh well :P

They would have performed all of these exactly like this at the Melbourne show I attended, but I don't remember any of these specifics :shock: I must have been too stunned by how great it was to take in any fine detail :lol:

I was really surprised by the different intros to some of the songs, sounds great! So pleased that they keep changing it up to keep it fresh. AFL intro sounds great, so does Two Out Of Three and TTW!

robgomm 27 Aug 2012 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 576163)

Which has all of 10 seconds worth of Meat's singing between all of them. :bleh:

Oh, that's disappointing.

robgomm 27 Aug 2012 11:50

Gotta say Patti kills in SITS.

Cherry.Loaf 27 Aug 2012 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 576167)
Gotta say Patti kills in SITS.

Really excited to see/hear the full version

MarkS 27 Aug 2012 18:20

The band sounds excellent. Meat, quite honestly, not so much

Tri.somethin 27 Aug 2012 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS
The band sounds excellent. Meat, quite honestly, not so much

Pffff. He sounds great.

Sebastian. 27 Aug 2012 20:05

Bat is just gonna rock, Everything sounds amazing.

I still can't get over the sound quality, is is so clear. Lovin' Anything for love as well!

Really can't wait for all this.

robgomm 27 Aug 2012 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576210)
The band sounds excellent. Meat, quite honestly, not so much

Respect your opinion but I think he sounds great. Full of drive and energy. He hits some killer big long notes in Break It and Boneyard, and these are just short samples!

Btw the long built up lead in to TTW sounds amazing! And the violin really adds to the intro to AFL.

MarkS 27 Aug 2012 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 576218)

Respect your opinion but I think he sounds great. Full of drive and energy. He hits some killer big long notes in Break It and Boneyard, and these are just short samples!

Btw the long built up lead in to TTW sounds amazing! And the violin really adds to the intro to AFL.

Hot Patootie sounded totally terrible. And with the exception of the long note held in Boneyard I didn't hear anything that sounded good. Vocal wise it may be worse than 3 Bats, kinda surprised they even went ahead with the release.

But if you enjoy it, that's great, but I honestly don't think I'm gonna spend my money on it after hearing a minute and half samples of each one

Personally I'm glad the violin didn't return this tour. I didn't like the way it sounded in the songs, seemed out of place

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RSG 27 Aug 2012 22:35

Likes the idea of an 8 minute Boneyard/All Revved Up!

robgomm 27 Aug 2012 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576220)
Hot Patootie sounded totally terrible. And with the exception of the long note held in Boneyard I didn't hear anything that sounded good. Vocal wise it may be worse than 3 Bats, kinda surprised they even went ahead with the release.

But if you enjoy it, that's great, but I honestly don't think I'm gonna spend my money on it after hearing a minute and half samples of each one

Personally I'm glad the violin didn't return this tour. I didn't like the way it sounded in the songs, seemed out of place

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I don't think you can say HP sounded totally terrible and vocal wise it's worse than 3 Bats. Remember Meat reads these comments so please show some respect for his feelings. Just say it wasn't to your liking.

MarkS 28 Aug 2012 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 576229)
I don't think you can say HP sounded totally terrible and vocal wise it's worse than 3 Bats. Remember Meat reads these comments so please show some respect for his feelings. Just say it wasn't to your liking.

I can say anything that I like.

Also, what is with the echo on his voice that seems to be popping up everywhere? Annoying as crap.

Sarge 28 Aug 2012 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576230)
Also, what is with the echo on his voice that seems to be popping up everywhere?

It's Meat Loaf singing a duet... with Meat Loaf. :)) Haven't heard enough yet to really judge the vocals but what I've heard so far doesn't knock my socks off. The music sounds very exciting, though. Too bad that such a great song like Peace On Earth apparently can't do without Paddy's presence. :sick:

Wario 28 Aug 2012 03:43

OMG. TOOK THE WORDS, HOT PATOOTIE, and ANYTHING FOR LOVE SOUND FREAKING AMAZING. I CANT WAIT FOR THIS

SITS looks like its been remixed. awesome.

JennaG 28 Aug 2012 09:55

Is it just the sound on my computer or do some of Meat's vocals seem to be a bit drowned out against the others?

robgomm 28 Aug 2012 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576230)
I can say anything that I like.

Also, what is with the echo on his voice that seems to be popping up everywhere? Annoying as crap.

You can't say anything you like actually or the mods will rightfully step in, show some respect.

robgomm 28 Aug 2012 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by JennaG (Post 576245)
Is it just the sound on my computer or do some of Meat's vocals seem to be a bit drowned out against the others?

Sounds clear as a bell to me mostly.

AndrewG 28 Aug 2012 10:21

The instrumental mix on those songs is perfect, even better than on the albums it seems. I love the violin on AFL, sounds very early Bruce Springsteen-esque to me.
Meat's vocals are really not that great on those previews in my opinion and appear very drowned out with the backing vocals or with Patti when she is "doubling" the lines (it actually seems MORE than doubling when she comes in, more like take over?).

But for what it is it does sound like a quality product.

robgomm 28 Aug 2012 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 576248)
The instrumental mix on those songs is perfect, even better than on the albums it seems. I love the violin on AFL, sounds very early Bruce Springsteen-esque to me.
Meat's vocals are really not that great on those previews in my opinion and appear very drowned out with the backing vocals or with Patti when she is "doubling" the lines (it actually seems MORE than doubling when she comes in, more like take over?).

But for what it is it does sound like a quality product.

This is weird, I think Meats vocals are really quite clear, I can hear him really well. Weird that you hear it drowned out. I wonder if it's like someone else said and different computers sound systems make things sound different? Anyway I guess we won't really know until October.

melon 28 Aug 2012 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by JennaG (Post 576245)
Is it just the sound on my computer or do some of Meat's vocals seem to be a bit drowned out against the others?

He sounded a bit drowned out on the night, but not all the time, just in places

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JennaG 28 Aug 2012 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 576250)
He sounded a bit drowned out on the night, but not all the time, just in places.

Thanks.

I didn't want to make any judgements in case it was just my computer but either way I'm really looking forward to this release. :D :D

misterfive 28 Aug 2012 14:12

Will the DVD have the AFL preformance?

melon 28 Aug 2012 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterfive (Post 576254)
Will the DVD have the AFL preformance?

From the football or the song?

Song - Yes
Football - No

MarkS 28 Aug 2012 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 576246)

You can't say anything you like actually or the mods will rightfully step in, show some respect.

Seriously, get off this moral high horse your on.

Nothing that I have said has been derogatory or a personal attack, just honest opinions

The vocals are sub par, don't know any nicer way to say it

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Dave 28 Aug 2012 15:47

In YOUR opinion....

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576257)
The vocals are sub par

Now, this reads more accurately.

Dave 28 Aug 2012 15:50

From everything I am hearing from the clips on iTunes, it sounds like this is exactly the product Meat Loaf fans have wanted for years - a not watered down, full on Meat Loaf musical attack. Oftentimes, the arrangements of the music we hear in concert are watered down for commercial release, but it seems as if all of the extravagances and frivolities of a live Meat Loaf show have been left in this time. I am looking more forward to this now more than ever.

MarkS 28 Aug 2012 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 576259)
In YOUR opinion....

Now, this reads more accurately.

Well if you notice, right above that, I stated clearly that I was expressing my honest opinions, so I really didn't feel the need to repeat the same words in succession

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CarylB 28 Aug 2012 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 576260)
From everything I am hearing from the clips on iTunes, it sounds like this is exactly the product Meat Loaf fans have wanted for years - a not watered down, full on Meat Loaf musical attack. Oftentimes, the arrangements of the music we hear in concert are watered down for commercial release, but it seems as if all of the extravagances and frivolities of a live Meat Loaf show have been left in this time. I am looking more forward to this now more than ever.

I'd agree with that absolutely David. I loved the shows on this tour, Meat was on top form, and to have something that recreates the experience of being there again is exactly what I'm looking forward to :-) I have studio versions of the songs. I want to recapture his and again hear Meat and the NLE live and over the top ;)

Caryl

Wario 28 Aug 2012 21:45

SO on the DVD version of AFL I take it theirs no Piano/vocal intro?

melon 29 Aug 2012 02:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 576284)
SO on the DVD version of AFL I take it theirs no Piano/vocal intro?

That is correct, the intro was just as it seems to be on this tour

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LisaT 29 Aug 2012 16:52

Have just listened to the clips on itunes and I have to say, I think it sounds great! This is gonna be played to death in my car, along with HCTB and HIAH. Personally, I would have preferred to have had a couple more songs from HIAH on there, instead of TTW and AFL, but I understand why they are there and it won't stop me playing it over and over! Roll on October!

RSG 29 Aug 2012 21:36

Perhaps down the road there will be some MP3s released of the current tour. 8)

stretch37 30 Aug 2012 09:59

...bat in full

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSsj8JjGkjA&noredirect=1

robgomm 30 Aug 2012 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 576313)

OH. MY. GOD.

I haven't heard Bat done this well since 2008!

Evil One 30 Aug 2012 12:38

This was uploaded today, yet Concert One haven't updated the set list. :wtf:

AndrewG 30 Aug 2012 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 576313)

:shock:

Wow great stuff! :D

I absolutely love the violin on Bat!
Superb.

I want this on Blu Ray!

Sebastian. 30 Aug 2012 13:27

Just wow! I wish October would hurry up.

Don't think I will ever stop playing this!

Adje 30 Aug 2012 13:34

And the 18 minute EPK for the DVD

YouTube Video

Sebastian. 30 Aug 2012 13:41

OMG Rock 'n' Roll Dreams. OMGOMGOMGOG!!!1111.

Really, really, really need this now!

Tri.somethin 30 Aug 2012 13:47

Booh...... WOOOOOOOOOOOW

Cherry.Loaf 30 Aug 2012 14:01

I love that fact he's wearing the Big Momma :)

Tri.somethin 30 Aug 2012 14:05

And that EPK is great!

Mr. Happy 30 Aug 2012 14:11

Patti's voice is still AutoTuned / whatever it is in Stand in the Storm. It's so distracting :O

Other than that...that was amazing. That was, quite literally, the best vocal of Bat I've heard in any recording, be it official or not so much, since Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. October needs to hurry up :D

loaferman61 30 Aug 2012 14:29

Release date is now October 23rd. Just got email from ConcertOne of press release.

Monstro 30 Aug 2012 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by loaferman61 (Post 576327)
Release date is now October 23rd. Just got email from ConcertOne of press release.

They say what year?

unbekannt 30 Aug 2012 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 576329)
They say what year?

„Released worldwide on October 23rd, 2012, […]“

MarkS 30 Aug 2012 15:31

That echo just ruins it for me. So unnecessary and distracting

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robgomm 30 Aug 2012 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 576319)
And the 18 minute EPK for the DVD

YouTube Video

Wow!

Wario 30 Aug 2012 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576331)
That echo just ruins it for me. So unnecessary and distracting

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Mark the echo is there for a reason. He wants you to feel like youre in the same autotorium as the audience. The echo encompasses the feel of the show. Its epic dude.

robgomm 30 Aug 2012 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 576335)
Mark the echo is there for a reason. He wants you to feel like youre in the same autotorium as the audience. The echo encompasses the feel of the show. Its epic dude.

I agree, I think the echo really adds something, Pauls been nagging him for ages to add effects, i'm glad he let him do this, sounds epic as you say.

Oh dear, i'm thinking I may have to order two copies of the DVD/CD set as they might get worn out quite quickly! Bat sounds AMAZING, in fact it all does! You know when Meat said this would be better than MSO I thought no way it will get close to that, nothing can touch that, but i'm starting to think it might be a worthy competitor!

Wario 30 Aug 2012 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 576336)
I agree, I think the echo really adds something, Pauls been nagging him for ages to add effects, i'm glad he let him do this, sounds epic as you say.

Oh dear, i'm thinking I may have to order two copies of the DVD/CD set as they might get worn out quite quickly! Bat sounds AMAZING, in fact it all does! You know when Meat said this would be better than MSO I thought no way it will get close to that, nothing can touch that, but i'm starting to think it might be a worthy competitor!

Yup! Its such ashame Concert-One f'ed up Mercury Blues cause man... That too wouldve been so epic!!!!!

MarkS 30 Aug 2012 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 576335)

Mark the echo is there for a reason. He wants you to feel like youre in the same autotorium as the audience. The echo encompasses the feel of the show. Its epic dude.

I'm sorry but I've been to a heck of a lot of shows on three different tours and have never an echo sensation like that. There is one instance in the Paloma deal after the giving tree on this tour, but that is intentionally echoed and it doesn't sound like that at any other point in the show.

I still stand by my earlier statement that it is too dark as well, especially after seeing the EPK. So many points where you can't see what's going on.

Just afraid that the critics are going to rip this thing to shreds and hurt his overall image

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loaferman61 30 Aug 2012 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576339)

I still stand by my earlier statement that it is too dark as well, especially after seeing the EPK. So many points where you can't see what's going on.

Just afraid that the critics are going to rip this thing to shreds and hurt his overall image

Probably won't get a lot of professional reviews, the early reviews on sites like Amazon are always great for awhile because they come from die-hard fans who buy it first day. I've seen stuff not yet released with positive reviews on Amazon. After some members of the general public buy it, they are not going to get the darkness and complain. When it is lighted it looks fantastic. It sounds good to me, especially with the violin. Now having seen this many clips I feel like it is safe to say that some of us find parts to be too dark. I will still buy it (pre-ordered) and probably enjoy it any way.

CarylB 30 Aug 2012 17:24

Everything I've seen and heard on these previews tells me I am going to love this DVD, that Meat should be proud of it, and that it was worth waiting for him to be happy with it :D That he's wearing our LFTT pendant in the promo shot at New Brunswick is the icing on the fund-raising cake :D Love it .. and Meat's vocals are great for me, I like the effects, and I think for me this will pip the MSO at the post by more than a nose or two!

Something to look forward to as October threatens to usher in "No shade, no shine, no butterflies, no bees, no fruits, no flowers, no leaves, no birds -
November!" .. and bring me instead the light and warmth and joy of so many wonderful remembered nights :D

Caryl

Adje 30 Aug 2012 21:11

I've watched and listened the Bat video for 4 times now and I m absolutely dissapointed :(

I'm happy for those who love it and I hope it will sound decent in DTS but this audio mix, as I hear it on youtube and on my PC, simply sucks.

Meat's vocal mix almost seems as if it's not part of the band. As if he's singing live with a (kick-ass) karaoke music mix. It doesn't sound as if they belong together and I have no idea if that has to do with dubbing or effects but it's ruining the experience for me.

Again I hope this comes over a lot better on the DTS mix.

I still don't like the way this is lit. Almost as if they had to hide something. It's not as livid as the concert DVD's I have and at times it all just looks bad lit to me overall.

I had high hopes before. Now I just hope it doesn't suck like Bat3. But from what I've seen sofar this is nowhere near the quality of the MSO DVD.

So, yes I'm dissapointed :(

Evil One 30 Aug 2012 22:20

I agree. The band sound excellent, but Meat's vocal mix sounds a bit off.

robgomm 30 Aug 2012 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 576346)
I agree. The band sound excellent, but Meat's vocal mix sounds a bit off.

I'm not sure it sounds off. To me it sounds like he's trying to make things fresh and new, singing some bits higher, some bits different to what he's done before. I like this because he's always showing he's not afraid to be bold and make ad lib changes to the vocals. So i don't think it's off, he's just doing things a bit differently, and I for one love it.

Sarge 30 Aug 2012 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 576335)
Mark the echo is there for a reason.

Whatever the reason is, it doesn't make it sound "live", in my opinion. It appears kind of artificial to me. I agree with MarkS on this. It's just too much. I turned the volume down after half the song because it wasn't a pleasant sound to my ears, it really annoys me and distracts from the music. I don't understand why they did this, I think it doesn't do the sound any favors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 576344)
Meat's vocal mix almost seems as if it's not part of the band.

I had the same feeling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576339)
I still stand by my earlier statement that it is too dark as well, especially after seeing the EPK. So many points where you can't see what's going on.

I think the lighting is okay, except for the parts that have that odd blue tint. Did it look like that during the actual concert or was that added later?

Wario 30 Aug 2012 23:20

You guys are never satisfied. This is perfection! Just what I wanted. He sounds great! You complain like I did that 3 Bats was flawed and too raw, now you have a polished masterpiece and you complain about it. I don't get it. Its awesome. and meat looks like hes enjoying himself!

Sarge 30 Aug 2012 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 576349)
This is perfection!

1. Perfection is boring.
2. People tend to have different concepts of perfection.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 576349)
[...] now you have a polished masterpiece and you complain about it.

3. People have different concepts of "masterpiece", too.

MarkS 30 Aug 2012 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 576350)

1. Perfection is boring.
2. People tend to have different concepts of perfection.

3. People have different concepts of "masterpiece", too.

What she said, MS was a masterpiece, this doesn't look anywhere close to the same level

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Adje 31 Aug 2012 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 576349)
now you have a polished masterpiece and you complain about it. I don't get it. Its awesome. and meat looks like hes enjoying himself!

First of, I am really happy that you are happy about it. And I mean that.

Just like me you have an opinion about it, it just happens my opinion is the oposite of yours.

You call it a polished masterpiece, I call the vocal mix a ruined experience because they don't sound like they (music and vocals) belong together.

I, btw, never said anything about Meat's performance. I'll wait with that after I've seen the rest of the DVD.


So for me this is the oposite of a masterpiece. I certainly wouldn't call the mix awesome.

loaferman61 31 Aug 2012 02:18

At this point there is only a month (or two depending on the source) and I am going to wait until I see and hear it except I will say now it is bloody dark. I do wish the distributors knew Meat Loaf is two words, whoever posted the youtube video apparently does not. I'm firmly in the wait and see (but damn it is dark) camp.

melon 31 Aug 2012 03:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by loaferman61 (Post 576354)
If there is one thing I have learned from this forum it is that words such as "perfect" and "flawless", etc. get thrown around so much that they tend to lose their meaning and give me pause to accept the poster's opinion when they are overused.

"Perfect" & "Flawless" is in the eye of the beholder.... for all that I want this is perfect & flawless to me, and to me that, and that Meat is happy with it is all that counts.

RSG 31 Aug 2012 03:59

Gotta admit, I really enjoy the lighting from what is being shared.. Imo any show that's a lot of white light is bothersome. The Ginny Luke accompaniment is a little bothering but may begin to enjoy it after I buy the DVD. It's just new sound is all and will perhaps take some getting used too. The song Land Of The Pig was real guitar heavy and new for Meat, but I grew to enjoy that.

melon 31 Aug 2012 04:05

I quite enjoy the violin sound in there, the solo duel between Ginny & Justin is "AMAYZING!"

Wario 31 Aug 2012 04:12

Its just this is the kind of production i thought youd all unanimously celebrate. I dont see the problem. I guess weve all heard the boots and this doesnt sound anything like it and we are used to a vocal quality to meat from a bootleg. this is professional.

Lol this is the first time we disagree on something like this :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 576352)
First of, I am really happy that you are happy about it. And I mean that.

Just like me you have an opinion about it, it just happens my opinion is the oposite of yours.

You call it a polished masterpiece, I call the vocal mix a ruined experience because they don't sound like they (music and vocals) belong together.

I, btw, never said anything about Meat's performance. I'll wait with that after I've seen the rest of the DVD.


So for me this is the oposite of a masterpiece. I certainly wouldn't call the mix awesome.


Evil One 31 Aug 2012 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 576347)
I'm not sure it sounds off. To me it sounds like he's trying to make things fresh and new, singing some bits higher, some bits different to what he's done before. I like this because he's always showing he's not afraid to be bold and make ad lib changes to the vocals. So i don't think it's off, he's just doing things a bit differently, and I for one love it.

I wasn't commenting on what was actually coming out of Meat's mouth.

markyboy1985 31 Aug 2012 10:03

I think we should all get behind this dvd and support meat instead of nitpicking at small things in my opinion. I've seen some of the clips and I think it looks amazing. Yeah it's a bit darker but maybe that's how meat wants it and I think we should respect that. We should feel lucky to get a dvd from that tour given that we know meat had a few issues with his vocal chords and we should praise him for this. Meat needs to know majority of fans here support him and are EXTREMELY grateful for all his efforts.

AndrewG 31 Aug 2012 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 576357)
I quite enjoy the violin sound in there, the solo duel between Ginny & Justin is "AMAYZING!"

I agree. That is sounding awesome.

AndrewG 31 Aug 2012 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by markyboy1985 (Post 576362)
I think we should all get behind this dvd and support meat instead of nitpicking at small things in my opinion. I've seen some of the clips and I think it looks amazing. Yeah it's a bit darker but maybe that's how meat wants it and I think we should respect that. We should feel lucky to get a dvd from that tour given that we know meat had a few issues with his vocal chords and we should praise him for this. Meat needs to know majority of fans here support him and are EXTREMELY grateful for all his efforts.

To me it doesn't look dark at all, not particularly for a concert film anyway I think. Concert films always have this object - very bright/colourful, background - black/you can't see it attitude. It does have a very high contrast ratio I think which is what I expect from good quality cameras. Moreover if you have a LED/LCD tv it will display the DVD extremely bright anyway, but keep the background/dark bits as black as that is the nature of the technology. If you have a plasma it will indeed be darker and it won't be brightened up.

robgomm 31 Aug 2012 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576339)
I'm sorry but I've been to a heck of a lot of shows on three different tours and have never an echo sensation like that. There is one instance in the Paloma deal after the giving tree on this tour, but that is intentionally echoed and it doesn't sound like that at any other point in the show.

I still stand by my earlier statement that it is too dark as well, especially after seeing the EPK. So many points where you can't see what's going on.

Just afraid that the critics are going to rip this thing to shreds and hurt his overall image

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I don't agree Mark. It's not like the echo effect is on every word. It's really a minor detail. You can't slam a whole show for a small number of effects that aren't even on every vocal.

melon 31 Aug 2012 17:33

I agree with Rob,to me it sounds realistic re the echo

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MarkS 31 Aug 2012 17:38

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Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 576369)

I don't agree Mark. It's not like the echo effect is on every word. It's really a minor detail. You can't slam a whole show for a small number of effects that aren't even on every vocal.

Seems pretty omnipresent to me considering that I have heard it in ever snippet that we have heard thus far. Doesn't appear to be a small amount to me.

I also agree with what some others have said, that all the affects and "adjustments" make it seem not live.

And quite frankly it is not just the echo that bothers Me, it is the fact that in my opinion the vocals do not sound good at all. Less strained than 3Bats, but not really any better

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Dave 31 Aug 2012 18:24

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Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576371)
And quite frankly it is not just the echo that bothers Me, it is the fact that in my opinion the vocals do not sound good at all.

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Originally Posted by markyboy1985 (Post 576362)
I think we should all get behind this dvd and support meat instead of nitpicking at small things in my opinion.

Some on here like what they have seen/heard thus far - some on here don't like what they have seen/heard thus far - all points of view are valid. I can hop on my mod box for a moment and say if we focus conversation on our own opinions and interjections/comments about opinions rather than stating things as fact and/or grandstanding the conversation in attempts to "rally the troops" toward a cause. I have taken a step back and watched threads go down in a clusterbomb time after time for the same reason - same things being said over and over until it causes someone to snap.

Long ago, a majority of conversation regarding Meat Loaf happened in another venue online and we had just a few simple guideline there that I believe has been forgotten here - "attack the words, not the person" and "don't throw sand on other people's keyboards." Feel free to speak up and join the conversation - no one likes talking to themselves; however, take a moment to read your post before clicking the "submit reply" button to think if what you are saying is adding anything new to the conversation or are you basically re-posting something you said earlier to continue the argument. Effective use of the "like" and "dislike" buttons could also help to quell the flames around here a bit.

I would hate to live in a world where there were not polarizing viewpoints in the Meat Loaf world - it would be a very boring place. However, I am seeing this thread going down the same path many others have and am asking us all (myself included) to take a breath and read the words that R has placed above every page in this forum "As a forum dedicated to an artist who, along with various band members, contributes to this forum, we encourage honest opinion, debate, and constructive criticism. We ask that this should be done in a respectful manner which should also be afforded to each and every forum member" before posting.

It is good to be passionate, but to pound your beliefs over and over again can get tiresome, people to snap, and threads to be closed. I know I am excited for this upcoming release and hope to be able to discuss it with y'all and am anxious to read what you guys and gals think about this new product!

Dave 31 Aug 2012 18:36

Okay...back on topic....

The clips of audio have been put on Amazon/iTunes and the EPK and full performance of Bat Out Of Hell have been put up on YouTube and I think everything looks and sounds fantastic from what I can see.

I would like to comment on the fog effect during Peace On Earth. I got a very stripped down version of the tour show at my venue. We didn't have any special effects at all. Therefore, I thought the fog effect and LED curtain was quite spectacular. Just seeing the clips of the spectacle of the show makes me eager to see a full-on Meat Loaf tour-de-force like what was presented in Sydney and not the no set/minimal lights shows my part of the country has gotten the past few tours.

loaferman61 31 Aug 2012 19:28

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Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576371)
Seems pretty omnipresent to me considering that I have heard it in ever snippet that we have heard thus far. Doesn't appear to be a small amount to me.

I also agree with what some others have said, that all the affects and "adjustments" make it seem not live.

And quite frankly it is not just the echo that bothers Me, it is the fact that in my opinion the vocals do not sound good at all. Less strained than 3Bats, but not really any better

I had only heard the audio through regular speakers and noticed very little echo. Last night I put on some good quality earphones and cranked it up and I had to admit then that it was really noticeable. Not enough to ruin anything- at least in one song - but there is hopefully not 2 hours of it. Meat's vocals sound otherwise quite good, the band is amazing, and when well lighted it looks spectacular. Hopefully as someone said viewing it on a big screen LCD will help. I still think it will be good and still look forward to it, for $11 just hearing that great band is a treat. I never got to see them with Ginny but I feel like she added a lot to the songs and freshened them up.

Evil One 02 Sep 2012 17:41

I finally found the time to watch the EPK and I as far as I can tell the audio sounds better than on the BOOH clip. Either my ears are going or that BOOH isn't the finished article. :bleh:

Wario 02 Sep 2012 17:54

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 576448)
I finally found the time to watch the EPK and I as far as I can tell the audio sounds better than on the BOOH clip. Either my ears are going or that BOOH isn't the finished article. :bleh:

yeah and some clips are a tad pixelated

melon 02 Sep 2012 18:22

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Originally Posted by Wario (Post 576449)

yeah and some clips are a tad pixelated

But I think that's just a computer/youtube thing, it'll be fine on DVD

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Evil One 02 Sep 2012 19:06

Around the 7.00 mark there's an instrumental from Anything For Love that usually doesn't get done live. Is this part of the show, or just an extra piece that was done for promo purposes?

Wario 03 Sep 2012 00:07

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 576451)
Around the 7.00 mark there's an instrumental from Anything For Love that usually doesn't get done live. Is this part of the show, or just an extra piece that was done for promo purposes?

nope thats on the DVD. that is on itunes in the extended preview

stretch37 03 Sep 2012 00:31

looks like the clips have been taken down off itunes?

MarkS 03 Sep 2012 00:44

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Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 576497)
looks like the clips have been taken down off itunes?

Did you look under UK iTunes? don't know about Canada, but I know they never showed up on the US store.

stretch37 03 Sep 2012 00:46

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Originally Posted by MarkS (Post 576498)
Did you look under UK iTunes? don't know about Canada, but I know they never showed up on the US store.

yeah I checked all three, my wife said they sometimes put them up for like a week or so as a preview.

Deena J 03 Sep 2012 02:58

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Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 576499)

yeah I checked all three, my wife said they sometimes put them up for like a week or so as a preview.

I checked the UK iTunes a lil while ago and it was still up. I listen to the previews for GP almost everyday!!! :)

stretch37 03 Sep 2012 04:26

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Originally Posted by Deena J (Post 576502)
I checked the UK iTunes a lil while ago and it was still up. I listen to the previews for GP almost everyday!!! :)

Oh ya, hmm I'll have to have another look then! :)

Smithie 04 Sep 2012 20:14

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Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 576248)
Meat's vocals are really not that great on those previews in my opinion and appear very drowned out with the backing vocals

I think it is a perfect blend of Meat and Patti's voices. There are many instrumentals, so Patti deserves the opportunity to be featured too for her vocals.

The previews sound great. I prefer the hard rock arrangements of the songs on the MMW tour. With the violin, it has a classical sound that I don't care for in Meat's music.

Smithie 04 Sep 2012 20:16

SITS- WOW!!!

ShelbyLee 04 Sep 2012 21:26

The violinist said she added many of her parts in the studio. I guess I agree with those who would prefer more of a "live" experience. Although I think Meat sounds great, Patti sounds great, and the band is great. I will have to listen to it more.

ShelbyLee 04 Sep 2012 21:28

I enjoyed the interviews in the trailer. Is that part of the documentary?
I can't wait to hear all of Stand in the Storm. My fave so far!

White of High 05 Sep 2012 00:01

I think I am one of the most censorious on the forum and almost everybody knows my opinion about Meat's voice in the last 10 years.

I hated the trailer, the band sounded good but Meat's voice was horrible. I listened Bat a few minutes ago. And... that was far the best performance (show and voice) I saw in the last 10 years from him. I don't know how he sounded live because his voice is masked but it was very okay. Congratulation for the studio works. It's a DVD so they can't sell it with bad voice. Echo is not good, various times you can here it's remastered in studio, but I wish Meat's voice was as good as in this 11 minutes was...

I'm not convinced Meat still can sing but that was good! In Hungary we say: "one swallow doesn't make summer"...

RSG 05 Sep 2012 00:34

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Originally Posted by White of High (Post 576610)
almost everybody knows my opinion about Meat's voice in the last 10 years.

PM it to me?


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