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proctorloaf 01 May 2011 13:46

Decadent Wish
 
Hey Guys,

I'm desperate to buy this track on iTunes (or similar) but I live in the UK and it's limited to mainland Europe. I don't understand why iTunes or the record companies do this, surely it makes sence to allow anyone to buy a track - I want to pay for this music!

Does anyone know how I can buy it please? To date its the only ML song that I don't own!

Thanks
Ant x

RSG 01 May 2011 17:11

You be in for a treat when you get to hear it. I say its on the Did I Say That single!

LisaT 01 May 2011 17:18

I'd like to own this track too - I love it. Also, 'Unsaid' is another I would like to get from somewhere. Anyone know where?

proctorloaf 01 May 2011 17:27

Unsaid is beautiful, both should have been on the Album in my opinion, it's on the Couldn't ahve said ti better EP on itunes - I've managed to get a copy of Decedent Wish now thanks Loafers! Always on the look out for offical rare recordings (not into bootlegs unless they are of songs which were never recorded like What part of my body hurts the most)

My decedent wish is for another Steinman/Meat Loaf album with ONE track featuring the original session musician line up of Bat out of Hell. What's your decedent wish?

RSG 01 May 2011 17:57

Original session musician line up, woah! :D

My decadent wish would be something rocknfernis come up with the other day on facebook. Steinman on Piano live with Meat belting out We're Still The Children. :)

proctorloaf 01 May 2011 18:25

That should be the BOH alumni reunion song!

Just imagine, Meat, Todd, Rory, Ellen, Patti, Carla singing, Roy Bitten on Piano, Max Weinburg on Drums, Todd, Tim Pierce, and Randy on guitars, Kasim on Bass (he'd do one more track!) Edgar Winter on Sax, Jimmy and Roger Powell on keys. It could be AWSOME!

melon 01 May 2011 18:28

Never ever heard Unsaid & never heard Decadent wish in full, but from what I've heard I love it.

A Slice Of English 01 May 2011 19:17

Both songs are usually available on ebay on their respective singles, which is where I got my copies. Decadent Wish is a favourite. The only disappointing part was the bridge in that song.

RSG 01 May 2011 19:26

You can't even touch my body
I can't even touch your soul...

is that a bridge?

A Slice Of English 01 May 2011 20:20

That's the bridge, yeah.

"You can't even touch my body
I can't even touch your soul
How could you know how bad
I want to turn you on again?
I want to turn you on again"

Just doesn't sit right with me that bit. Still love the song though, right up there as one of my favourite all-time b-sides :)

allrevvedup 01 May 2011 21:23

i like both versions, Michael Duff's original acoustic version and Meat's.

Meat's should have been on CHSIB

renegadeangel 01 May 2011 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 544081)
That should be the BOH alumni reunion song!

Just imagine, Meat, Todd, Rory, Ellen, Patti, Carla singing, Roy Bitten on Piano, Max Weinburg on Drums, Todd, Tim Pierce, and Randy on guitars, Kasim on Bass (he'd do one more track!) Edgar Winter on Sax, Jimmy and Roger Powell on keys. It could be AWSOME!


You didn't leave enough room on that stage for the lawyers and management

AndrewG 01 May 2011 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 544081)
That should be the BOH alumni reunion song!

Just imagine, Meat, Todd, Rory, Ellen, Patti, Carla singing, Roy Bitten on Piano, Max Weinburg on Drums, Todd, Tim Pierce, and Randy on guitars, Kasim on Bass (he'd do one more track!) Edgar Winter on Sax, Jimmy and Roger Powell on keys. It could be AWSOME!

Yeah they could call the song:

"This will only happen again (when pigs fly across the sky)"

LisaT 02 May 2011 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 544071)
Unsaid is beautiful, both should have been on the Album in my opinion

:yep:

mib 03 May 2011 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 544084)
Never ever heard Unsaid & never heard Decadent wish in full, but from what I've heard I love it.

It's up on You tube. It's a good song.

LisaT 03 May 2011 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by mib (Post 544223)
It's up on You tube. It's a good song.

Thanks, mib. I've just had a listen. Brilliant song! Now, what about 'Unsaid'? Anyone know where I can find that one?

melon 03 May 2011 16:20

Thanks mib

RSG 29 May 2011 19:45

'Unsaid' is on the CHSIB single I have here at home. Decadent Wish was more rockin' whereas This track Meat hits one in the face with a traditional tremendous emotion with a lesser than heroic, Diane Warren lyric.

wolfy35 20 Jun 2011 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSG (Post 544076)

My decadent wish would be something rocknfernis come up with the other day on facebook. Steinman on Piano live with Meat belting out We're Still The Children. :)


Now that would be worth seeing. IMHO Still the children is probably the greatest Steinman song I have never heard Meat sing

Meat Loaf_fan 25 Jul 2011 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfy35 (Post 546456)
Now that would be worth seeing. IMHO Still the children is probably the greatest Steinman song I have never heard Meat sing

Yes, this is great song, but IMHO I'd like to hear "Safe Sex" done by Meat.

Evil One 25 Jul 2011 18:17

Safe Sex is a woman's song.

Meat Loaf_fan 25 Jul 2011 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 548338)
Safe Sex is a woman's song.

But if you change few words ;)... Anyway (IMHO) it's a good song.:cool:

lorenzoduke 30 Jul 2011 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by LisaT (Post 544232)
Thanks, mib. I've just had a listen. Brilliant song! Now, what about 'Unsaid'? Anyone know where I can find that one?

You can buy Unsaid on iTunes for 99p.

Evil One 30 Jul 2011 14:51

I wouldn't give you 99p for it! :lol:

Meatfan4ever 03 Aug 2011 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by renegadeangel (Post 544105)
You didn't leave enough room on that stage for the lawyers and management


proctorloaf 17 Aug 2011 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 548338)
Safe Sex is a woman's song.

Although I love the song, the ONLY way 'Safe Sex' should be on a ML record is if Patti sings it. Period.

rockfenris2005 20 Aug 2011 05:41

I would have dropped "You're right I was wrong" and "Because of you" in favour of "Decadent wish" and "Unsaid". Then the album's pretty much perfect for me. I found those other two songs lacking, but the b sides were terrific.

glockenspiel 07 Mar 2012 08:46

"Because Of You" is a quality track - Meat's delivery of '...this is larger than life...' is quintessentially Meaty, if you know what I mean ... I think we are all agreed that "You're Right I Was Wrong" is B-side material. Meanwhile, what on earth is "Decadent Wish" doing, being tucked away on a B-side?! It grabs your attention from the off, and sweeps you into its tide. That funny messy middle-bit almost ruins the whole thing - thankfully, almost, but not quite (see also that synthesiser noodling on the otherwise marvellous 'Good Girls Go To Heaven').

drewhiggins 14 Mar 2012 10:35

I'm interested in getting hold of both Decadent Wish and Unsaid in CD quality. Can you get them anywhere else besides eBay or Amazon at a decent-ish price for Australia? Thanks!!!

RSG 14 Mar 2012 13:21

I may have Couldn't Have Said It Better single laying around. It has 'Unsaid' and a radio edit of CHSIB and a music video on it. You can have it, no money for it. I'll have to find it.

CarylB 14 Mar 2012 13:23

I have some copies of the CD with Did I say That, Decadent Wish and Lawyers, Guns and Money. I will be putting them on the Loafdom for the Turtle website in the next week or so to raise money for The Painted Turtle. They will be priced at $11 US plus 68p postage within the UK or $3 postage overseas. All the money raised apart from postage costs will go to TPT.

Caryl

drewhiggins 16 Mar 2012 14:34

Quote:

I may have Couldn't Have Said It Better single laying around. It has 'Unsaid' and a radio edit of CHSIB and a music video on it. You can have it, no money for it. I'll have to find it.
You're sure? I'm happy to pay you something for it.

RSG 16 Mar 2012 15:06

I found it; the jewel case is in rough used condition however the disc runs smoothly. We can discuss getting this to you through inbox. We can discuss how I can send this to you. May have to send it in April so I can save a little cash.

drewhiggins 16 Mar 2012 15:38

That's alright, I can wait 'til then. Thanks so much for the help.

Meat Loaf_fan 25 Mar 2012 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005 (Post 549800)
I would have dropped "You're right I was wrong" and "Because of you" in favour of "Decadent wish" and "Unsaid". Then the album's pretty much perfect for me. I found those other two songs lacking, but the b sides were terrific.

"Decadent Wish"(:cool:), "Unsaid"(:cool:)? Of course - they are one of the best songs Meat recorded. I would choose not only "You're Right I Was Wrong" but also "Why Isn't That Enough" and "Do It" and send them into non-existence.

glockenspiel 25 Mar 2012 13:27

I've never really got into 'Unsaid' - maybe I should give it another whirl. 'Why Isn't That Enough'is a great record - can't fault it.

CarylB 25 Mar 2012 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by glockenspiel (Post 567283)
I've never really got into 'Unsaid' - maybe I should give it another whirl. 'Why Isn't That Enough'is a great record - can't fault it.

I agree. I also think "Why Isn't That Enough" is a wonderful song with great meaning, and really liked Meat's version "Do It". Even if I didn't, I wouldn't send them into "non-existence" .. but then I don't really appreciate Picasso personally, and wouldn't ban his work from any gallery .. nor take a knife to it ;) (Nice metaphor Meat ;) ) I just accept it's not for me because I haven't managed to understand it.

Caryl

RSG 25 Mar 2012 17:09

Has somebody besides Meat sing Do It?

samurai7 26 Mar 2012 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 567285)
.. nor take a knife to it ;) (Nice metaphor Meat ;) )

Caryl

It's not a metaphor because he said that would be LIKE someone slashing a picasso. That makes it a simile. :twisted:

ninja 26 Mar 2012 17:02

hello!
can you tell me where i can get the lyrics of decadent wish???
thank you for any information!!

CarylB 26 Mar 2012 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by samurai7 (Post 567305)
It's not a metaphor because he said that would be LIKE someone slashing a picasso. That makes it a simile. :twisted:

Thanks .. actually, I do understand the difference between metaphor and simile. I just didn't realise the level of grammar required here was so exacting ;) .. and frankly as "metaphor" is the word Meat's been using in so many interviews, I thought the term would work for most readers here. Metaphor or not, it referred to those who would send a song that doesn't appeal to them into "non-existence", which was my point, that I think most would have understood.

However I stand corrected. Now you might want to turn your skills to the spelling and punctuation on the forum generally.

Caryl

CarylB 26 Mar 2012 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja (Post 567306)
hello!
can you tell me where i can get the lyrics of decadent wish???
thank you for any information!!

I think they are:

Oh now lover, hungry lover
We devour each other
I should run for cover
But you keep turning water to wine
Dangerous and yet divine
You back me in a corner with your sugar and lace
In every breathless night there's less and less escape
And you're the ultimate confection here at heaven's gate
And I pray, I pray that you'll be mine

'Cause I know you, are a decadent wish
A siren's call with a terminal kiss
And I'd give it all for one more taste of your lips
If I crash on the shore I'll be yours
If I crash on the shore I'll be yours

Oh now far from being perfect
Unions of the spirit
Skating on the surface of something pure and genuine
Dangerous and yet divine
Now you're tired of my defenses and your grip's too tight
You know I'm going under, oh but it feels so right
If it's wrong it doesn't matter 'cause I'm satisfied
And I pray, I pray that you'll be mine

'Cause I know you, are a decadent wish
A siren's call with a terminal kiss
And I'd give it all for one more taste of your lips
If I crash on the shore I'll be yours
If I crash on the shore I'll be yours

You can't even touch my body
I can't even touch your soul
But how do you know, I bet on me
To turn you on again
I need to turn you on again

'Cause I know you, are a decadent wish
A siren's call with a terminal kiss
And I'd give it all for one more taste of your lips
If I crash on the shore I'll be yours
'Cause I know you, are a decadent wish
A siren's call with a terminal kiss
And I'd give it all for one more taste of your lips
If I crash on the shore I'll be yours
If I crash on the shore I'll be yours
If I crash on the shore I'll be yours
If I crash on the shore I'll be yours
And I'd give it all, yes I'd give it all
And I'd give it all for just a taste of your lips


You are a decadent wish is a nice metaphor ;)

Caryl

The Flying Mouse 26 Mar 2012 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 567309)
And you're the ultimate confection here at heaven's gate

:twisted: I've always thought it was "And you're the ultimate confession here at heaven's gate".

With all the food and drink references in the first verse though, you're probably right.

AndyK 26 Mar 2012 18:16

Try here

Evil Nickname's site is pretty accurate.

ninja 26 Mar 2012 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 567309)
I think they are:

You are a decadent wish is a nice metaphor ;)
Caryl

hello Caryl,

yes indeed, it is :D
thank you very much for the lyrics!!!
i love that song!

ninja 26 Mar 2012 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 567311)
Try here

Evil Nickname's site is pretty accurate.

thank you for that great link, Andy!

CarylB 27 Mar 2012 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 567311)
Try here

Evil Nickname's site is pretty accurate.

I think he's wrong about "confession" though. That makes little sense, whereas "confection" fits perfectly with the references to sugar and lace.

Caryl

duke knooby 27 Mar 2012 01:13

though confession would fit perfectly with the references to heavens gate, confection would perhaps fit better with the song title...

allrevvedup 27 Mar 2012 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 567325)
I think he's wrong about "confession" though. That makes little sense, whereas "confection" fits perfectly with the references to sugar and lace.

Caryl

i think it's confession...since it makes a bit more sense to say that you'd confess to being with this person when asked at the 'pearly gates' even though it's akin to have been with the devil.

Plus Mike Duff, co-writer of the song, has it on his site as confession...http://www.michaelduff.com/lyrics.html#dec

there's a very good acoustic version that he performs to be found somewhere as well.

CarylB 27 Mar 2012 02:04

Shame we can't ask Meat. He said he wrote most of the lyrics ;)

Caryl

GDW 27 Mar 2012 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 567328)
Shame we can't ask Meat. He said he wrote most of the lyrics ;)

Caryl

Yeah we all know what happened there.:(:roll:

CarylB 27 Mar 2012 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDW (Post 567334)
Yeah we all know what happened there.:(:roll:

No I don't. I know that Meat said he wrote most of the lyrics. What exactly are you suggesting?

The Flying Mouse 27 Mar 2012 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDW (Post 567334)
Yeah we all know what happened there.:(:roll:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 567335)
No I don't. I know that Meat said he wrote most of the lyrics. What exactly are you suggesting?

:twisted: That we can't ask Meat because someone was really really horrible to Meat because they wanted to be offensive and hurtful so Meat is never going to visit the forum again :facepalm:

It's going off the topic and is going to lead to more thread locks so back to the song please.

ninja 27 Mar 2012 22:23

well, i just tried to listen exactly what meat is singing - i'm not at all sure, but i think it's confection

evil nickname 27 Mar 2012 23:19

And I'm absolutely, 100% certain that it's confession. The ‘ss’ sound in the middle is unmistakable. Well, or Meat has a very odd pronunciation of ‘ct’.

Also, "ultimate confection at Heaven's gate". What does that mean anyway?

ninja 28 Mar 2012 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname (Post 567380)
And I'm absolutely, 100% certain that it's confession. The ‘ss’ sound in the middle is unmistakable. Well, or Meat has a very odd pronunciation of ‘ct’.

Also, "ultimate confection at Heaven's gate". What does that mean anyway?

thanx evil nickname.
so if you're sure, the problem is solved ... :-)

Evil One 28 Mar 2012 23:44

It's quite clearly confession. The bloke who wrote the song has the lyrics on his website. :shock:

allrevvedup 29 Mar 2012 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 567454)
It's quite clearly confession. The bloke who wrote the song has the lyrics on his website. :shock:

:D

CarylB 29 Mar 2012 02:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname (Post 567380)
Also, "ultimate confection at Heaven's gate". What does that mean anyway?

Someone asked for the lyrics and I gave them what I hear. Only Meat could say exactly what word he has used, or indeed wrote.

As to what "ultimate confection at Heaven's gate" would mean .. to me given the emphasis in the verse on sugar, later on taste, and even the title Decadent Wish, which evokes all those delightful confections which include the word decadent, to me the phrase suggests the most perfect and delicious confection one could imagine in paradise. Whereas to me, "confessing" at the gates of Heaven would be a little tardy ;)

Not arguing that I'm right and you're wrong, to snatch another phrase from a superb album .. just explaining that imo there is as much poetry in what I hear as in what you hear.

Caryl


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