GARY BUSEY TRIES TO FIGHT MEAT THIS MARCH ON CELEBERITY APPRENTICE
 

http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2010/1...ight-meat-loaf

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Meat would of hammered him!! eazy pizy

I just hope they show it on tv :lol:

Lets hope they don't edit it to make Meat look like the bad guy.

Carole

Busey is television GOLD for being the crazy nit! This is going to be amazing and the producers should milk it for all that its worth!!!

apperently, according to the article, he gets fired early on.

they should bring back Celebrity Death Match on MTV and have Busey vs Sir Loaf battling it out

Definitely :))

I was thinking Meat Loaf Vs Nessa from Gavin & Stacey myself...

I would pay to see this. Does anyone know where the other Meat ep of Celebrity Death Match is? I've looked on Youtube and can never find it.

Its on ROL:

http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/M...DeathMatch.htm

Thanks for posting the link .. I forgot all about it :lol:

Thanks Wario!

Rest assured, Carole, there is no way of editing it that wouldn't make Gary Busey look like an arse. That's how he's known in Hollywood and how he comes across in general.

(Oh, hi, everyone, this is batoutofhell, BTW. After the admin refused to take care of a log-in issue I had, presumably because I was the only one having it and not worth their time, I was forced to register a new name. Howdy!)

Its kind of sad, Busey had a good career ahead of him and ruined it with drugs and booze!!
It would have been funny though to see them have a scrap. I reckon they would habe both been out of breath from the shouting even before it came to fisty cuffs.

But I reckon Meat would have put him on his arse with one punch.

Enough with the baiting or I'll be baiting my delete button with points

I made a perfectly legitimate point. PM sent.

I have to agree

Oh well, better stick at talking about drunk Busey. Someone is way to keen to use delete buttons and such. Now if we only could use one on Gary Busey :mrgreen:

Considering that that is the topic of the thread I'd say that's an excellent idea.

The advertisements on TV for the upcoming Celebrity Apprentice have been coming in fast and furious on prime time. However, tonight was the first night that the blow up between Busey and Meat have been in the clips. And boy Meat was PISSED OFF!!!!! Edit job, perhaps... but controversy = ratings. Just can't wait to see the show beginning March 6th here in the States.

Not fair, we don't get that show here!!!!!:(

Carole

Can you see this You Tube?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA71_eaZk_Y

Thanks Suzie. All I can say is 'GO MEAT'!!!!!!!!!

carole

Yes, and I regret having clicked the link. I wish I had never seen this and I think I better avoid watching Meat Loaf's current TV appearances. :cry:

never saw meat that .... angery before. It looks like Busey said trash about Meat's family, career, or Hang Cool Teddy Bear. Busey better get fired asap

That is totally awesome!!!! WoW IM STOKED!

What's awesome about someone losing his temper?

it's designed to look controversial when it could've been completely taken out of context, who knows.

The show doesn't do much for me anyway, so can't see me wanting to watch it.

besides he could've just been performing a really poor alternate version of Don't Get Me Going for Busey!*

*I'm not that big a fan of the original version before anyone asks.

Having to see Meat yell at someone on TV that way is sad, regardless of why he did it.

It all depends whether it has been taken out of context. Also it makes me wonder if they've edited the show to make Meat look like an arse. :shrug:

Thanks for posting the link Suzie. He really scared the heck out of me :shock:

I'm looking forward to seeing the show. It'll be really interesting to see what Busey said to get Meat so upset. I read that everyone else on the show called Meat a sweetheart :-) I also read that Busey didn't last very long before getting fired.

its freaking reality tv, its supposed to be dramatic?

Exactly !

That's one of the problems I have with reality TV. I don't like how people appear on such shows. The fact that the trailer obviously puts emphasis on conflicts says a lot about that show and maybe that's one of the reasons why people watch it - because arguments are more exciting and "entertaining" than if everybody was nice to each other? :shrug: Seeing that kind of behavior in connection with charity is kind of absurd, in my opinion.

:twisted: Looks like Meat ain't a happy bunny :bunny:

I agree that a lot of what happens on this show is for the benefit of the camera though.

Looks good. I think Meat might have played it up a little though. :)

Maybe Busey was being the arse and Meat's reaction was justified? :shrug: It's a teaser to get people to watch the show.

And Sarge is right (unfortunately, I guess)- the show would be less interesting if people were nice to each other (although, they often are, in having watched it). I remember that was a criticism of the first season of "Big Brother" (which I don't watch, and I have no idea if it's still on).

That clip was more than likely just a few seconds out of the show.

yes, i think so ;)

Heseres a little nown fact: The announcer guy diring that tv promo was the voice of batman in the 2004 animated series.

Reno Romano. Here are three more facts: 1) That cartoon wasn't as good as the previous one. 2) Holy typos Batman! 3) This post has absolutely nothing to do with the thread title. :oops:

Yeah that's right. I'm sure Meat was justified in reacting the way he did. But I am curious to see what Busey did or said to get that reaction.

Carole

so... we have a clip, out of context, of an actor, on a reality tv show, apparently losing there temper, about something which we have know idea, on a show for an american audience, where rivalry and controversy are the main goal for ratings, on a promo clip chosen by the producers?

i cant read too much into that, apart from, i've no idea who most (all the rest) of the people are

Meat looked pissed:D,, good stuff!! its a reality tv show people.
you go on it for publicity, and to help ur favourite charity? it will be great promo for Meat, its as simple as that.

why? this is the real world, its not always bunnys and ice cream;)

Publicity? Interesting... Didn't Meat deny that he did it for that reason?

Can't he do that without that TV show?

:roll: If I had gotten an Euro every time I read this sentence on this forum, I'd be rich by now. It's probably the most worn-out phrase on here.

When did Celebrity Apprentice become "the real world"? :shock:

yeah, but why is what he did sad? plus worn out or not, it is good promo

I don't like what I see on that show and I don't like seeing Meat Loaf on it, especially since his participation is contradictory to what he had said about all those "celebrity..." shows before.

its one of the most popular tv shows right now, how can you see it as nothing but a good thing? millions of people are going to remember he exists.

it really does amaze me just how deep people look into every little thing Meat does or hang onto every word he says? HE IS A CELEBRITY!!!!! he will go on shows like this from time to time, he will release albums, host shows, do movies etc etc,, he has a manager who,s job is to get Meat work [ news flash ]:shock:,, it is one of the most watched shows in the USA, it will do him no harm imo, it keeps him in the public eye? he shouts at somebody:shock:,, quick hit the red button, fire up the sirens!! the end is now:D
im not sure about the shirt Meat wore on that chat show last night, did you hear Meat say this is hes best album ever!!! Meat actually defended himself on here? why did he do that? its not a concept album:shock:,, why not? because i know more about the album, than the artist that recorded it!!!
last monday Meat said hes favourite colour was blue, today he said it was green:shock:,, i dont feel i can be a fan anymore after that? he swore to me it was blue:roll:

petty crap like that,,,,

I thought Meat cleared up the reason "why" he did "this" show. How can you believe one thing he says to a "T" then not believe him the next? And I'm not talking about the Bat 3 stuff at all. Clearly he's not yanking anyone's chains about this. He did well and we'll find out how well beginning in March. Glass half full. :shrug: I think whatever money he has earned for his charity will be well received, well used and help a LOT of children.

Hopefully someone can be nice enough to tape it and send it to you. I don't have a DVR so I can't tape it and send it to you. All I have is an old-fashioned VCR.

and you believe him? you believe the same man that said Bat 3 was a great album?:D

I'm not obligated to like it just because other people like it.

I can't wait!!!

Re-read these sentences. Do you notice something? :p

i love HCTB:D

:lmao: I believe Meat is open minded, ever learning, and entitled to change his opinion.

I second that suzie - Couldn't have said it better myself.

Indeed .. and entitled, after he's fulfilled his obligations, to admit the whole process of delivering a piece of work was an unmitigatingly bad experience for him. Most of us can look back with regret or disappointment on things we've had to follow through because we've committed to them; not all of us disclose that, nor have it brought up repeatedly to cast doubt on what we move on to do in the future.

I don't believe we'll ever see Meat swallowing down wriggling grubs in the jungle! .. but I can see the appeal of testing himself on the Apprentice whilst at the same time earning for a charity he has such respect for. Might it have some general positive PR spin-off? Who knows? Meat thinks little of any significance, that these shows are quickly forgotten, and has said this was not his motivation for doing it.

I think his integrity stands up well to the intense scrutiny some put it under. My view is that those lucky enough to be able to watch the programme will see him do very well on it.

Caryl

That's okay but he should not attack his fans for having trusted him, looking forward to the album and spending their hard-earned money on it a few years after he extensively promoted it as something great. People who didn't know the background were insulted because they did not understand why Meat slated Bat III in interviews and dared to say that they like the album. Changing one's opinion is fine but having a go at people (fans!) who are not responsible for any bad experiences the making of the album caused him is highly unfair.

After seeing him go off in the trailer I'm afraid he will appear like certain other participants. I'm still hoping that it was not serious, a misleading edit or that he was just acting the tantrum for some reason but recalling previous shows, I tend to doubt that.

Okay, maybe it's "normal" these days that people, even "celebrities" behave that way in public, maybe that's what is considered good entertainment. :shrug: I have to admit that I like to listen to what Trump says - but some of the candidates... :roll: Maybe I'm old-fashioned but I'm not keen on witnessing Meat fighting with Gary Busey or someone else on TV. I watched a movie with Busey today and I kind of like him (he makes good villains :twisted:) and I hope he didn't make a fool of himself on that show.

Some people will probably think that Meat angrily yelling at someone is somehow "cool" but I want to admire artists for their talents, I don't need to be "entertained" by that kind of behavior.

The one thing that has come from the brief trailers I have seen for this is that Busey doesn't even sound like the man who played some great villains in different films.

He just sounds like a man that the 'rock n roll lifestyle' (apart from playing Buddy Holly I don't think he's performed musically in anything, though I'm sure I'll be corrected) has caught up on, which is sad.

He attacked his fans? I didn't see that. He's said here he hates the album, and pretty soon explained why. This site represents relatively few of his fans surely in the greater scheme of things, and I saw no attacks on fans in the press or in interviews.

I loved and still love the album (and there were plenty here who didn't .. so I can't see they would have been insulted, apart from him releasing it!). I understand why Meat feels the way he does, and that doesn't insult me. If someone looks forward to the album, buys it and likes it, why should that change?

If anyone read an interview where Meat "slated" the album (and I think in any I saw he explained why) I see no reason for them to interpret that as an attack, nor for them to change their mind about what they like to listen to, nor for them to feel they wouldn't "dare" to say to a friend that they like it.

Well what we've seen IS a brief edit. I'd prefer to watch the show before I pass judgement. I've also seen edits which show Meat working and joking with people coming into a pizza parlour, which could be more indicative of his contribution.

I've just seen him yelling at Busey not to get in his face .. hardly "fighting". He used his "Meat Loaf" character and that's probably why that edit was chosen. From what Meat has said I have the impression he worked hard and competed whilst having fun, learned a lot, enjoyed doing it, and was pretty successful.

I don't .. but I do accept it as an very short edit chosen by those promoting the programme and not necessarily indicative of Meat's showing as a whole. So far I've seen more affability than anger from him in edits made public. This particular one may make a lot more sense when seen in context. Did he lose his cool, or did he simply give Busey an effective and deserved warning not to behave like a jackass? It will become clear when the episode airs.

Caryl

He did. He called people names on here (not single people but an entire group of fans) because of the Bat III issue. (That was before he explained why he dislikes the album.) It was one of the reasons why I left this forum for a while and seriously considered putting my Meat Loaf collection on eBay.

Ok, can we remember the topic on the thread now please.

And back on topic .. I won't be able to watch Celebrity Apprentice .. so I hope those who can will give us some good reviews each episode, because I sense our guy did good :D

Caryl

Well if anything, the clip got everyone talking (one way or the other) and I'm sure it has Celebrity Apprentice enthusiasts excited for this season as well.

Caryl, I have you verbally covered and I can imagine that the episodes may be uploaded on youtube by the time I get it all typed out. :)

Wow. Imo y'all need to chill out. He's one man. He's not perfect and not a god. If you don't want to watch it don't. If you do, more power to you. Meat did the show and its over now. At the end of the day, its his choice, not yours. Maybe it opened the doors for a role meat really wanted, or allowed him to make this new album he's working on. God....sometimes I wonder....

No one is going to say what he should or what he should not do. But if he does something, e.g. appearing on a TV show, you have the right to have an opinion about it.

Exactly :-)

People will be able to watch them online at NBC.com, but I don't know if that's available in the UK :shrug: Other than that, NBC has an official channel on YouTube, so hopefully the episodes on there as well.

looks like it will be fun, not a huge fan of them type shows. but i wont lose sleep about Meat being on it? hes choice at the end of the day

I like the show, so I'll watch. And Meat Loaf yelling doesn't bother me. If someone makes me mad enough, I will yell. It doesn't happen often, but it has happened. If you don't like it, don't watch. If you don't like anything going on with Meat Loaf, well, there is an opening on the Justin Bieber fan site.

Are we forgetting that Meat Loaf is a VERY VERY emotional person? He cares deeply about what he does, so if Gary provoked him (as I'm SURE he did), Meat's gonna get animated. That's not weakness at all. We don't know the context, but we know Busey is insane and Meat is very emotionally involved, so add two and two.

I personally am looking forward to this show, and it will no doubt wake up some Meat fans that this man hasn't mellowed AT ALL. That's a good thing.

I assume that's one of the characteristics of reality TV. It features people whose personalities will inevitably clash in certain circumstances so that the audience and the media have something to talk about. I neither think that it's fair nor am I excited about it. Well, that's contemporary "entertainment", I guess. :shrug:

Seeing Meat yelling doesn't bother me in the least, and I certainly don't see it as a sign of weakness. If anything, the clip makes me even more curious to watch the show and see what Gary Busey said (or did) to get him so upset. To each their own I guess :shrug:

Exactly ... it's as simple as that :wink:

Last night, while out and about clubbing around town, I had a few different people let me know they planned on watching Celeb Apprentice because they wanted to see Meat Loaf on the show - most of them did not watch before. Getting out of the superfan cloud, people thought it was exciting to actually see him in a commercial and going to be on a show they could watch.

When meat wins it, which he will I bet, we will see lots of great things

Once more please could we keep to the topic, next time it's a :lock:

Same here, it doesn't bother me either, as long as he's not yelling at me!!!! :lol: The show's not on here, but if it was, I would definitely be curious to watch to see what Gary said or did to get that reaction.

Carole

For example?

A live rendition of the American classic on prime time US TV and free Meat Loaf backpacks for everyone probably. :weirdo:

the record company may use the gained publicity and actually get behind the new album?

We can only hope :)

I just hope and pray that there will be some way that those of us in the UK will be able to see it. You Tube, perhaps?

good luck. I would but I dont want to risk the threat of copyright strikes. NBC is known to be pricks about content on youtube. especially SNL material.

NBC has their own official channel on YouTube ... so maybe they'll post the episodes on there :??:

Nbc usually posts full episodes of shows on their site orbhulu day after original airing

I'm assuming though that even if they post the videos on their site after airing it's going to be the same situation as it is with the commercials that are on there and not viewable outside the US.

Going back to the thread title, I don't like seeing anyone lose their temper, particularly someone I respect and admire as much as Meat but I'm sure he had his reasons. I'd never heard of this Gary Busey before we heard he'd be on Celebrity Apprentice with Meat but by the sounds of it, he is pretty strange.

We'll find out the reasons behind it soon enough.

Proxy FTW

Gary Busey seemed kind of odd and slightly repulsive when he was young, and I think he decided he had something good goin' on there, and just really went with it :) If you have "Chasing Ghosts" (2005) pull it off the shelf and play the outtakes to see what he's like. Btw Meat's one outtake (actually it's an improv) is hilarious! (but to get it, you have to watch the movie first; which is fine, it's a good movie)

I've seen the clips from Celebrity Apprentice, and my favorite, hands down, is the one where Meat tells Gary Busey "You'll be in the hospital in about 4 minutes!" I think Meat looks fabulous in the clip. Honest anger, passionately and non-violently expressed makes for entertaining TV, and to tell you the truth I don't have any problem with it in real life, either.
-Kathy

Right you are about Gary Busey :-) And thanks for the information about the outtakes ... I haven't watched the DVD for ages, and really need to check it out.

Exactly :-)

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never knew Busey and Meat were in a movie together!

There was no physical violence, and it is obvious in the clip that Meat was not looking to provoke any. Having passionately expressed his anger, he is shown moving away; he wants no physical confrontation. It is the honesty of his expression that appeals to me and, I think will to many viewers of the show. It's great that he can support a charity by using his business acumen and his talent for entertaining. And make no mistake, this is entertainment! I have no idea if Meat's part in this clip was spontaneous or if he planned it in advance; either way, this clip in particular has me looking forward to the show even more than I was before :)
-Kathy

If you are famous and have "business acumen and talent for entertaining" you can support a charity without having to argue with other "celebrities" in front of TV cameras for "entertainment" puposes, can't you?

It's verbal violence and an indication that a person is overstrained with a particuar situation, I don't consider it "entertaining" at all and I find it disappointing that many people think it is. The clip that shows Meat yelling at Busey will probably make a lot of people watch this season of Celebrity Apprentice but it has quite the opposite effect on me.

If you like that show, that's fine with me, I don't expect anybody to share my opinion but I will try to ignore the reality TV persona Meat Loaf in order to make sure that I can enjoy the work of the singer/actor Meat Loaf without prejudice. I'm looking forward to the new album.

Is Meat Loaf the person contradictory to his singing/acting persona? He's a passionate, over-the-top guy that occassionally gets angry and screams. Listen to Bat Out Of Hell. The man screams a lot. Thinking he's gonna be a quiet, conformist guy in real life is ridiculous.

And Gary Busey is INSANE. We're lucky Meat didn't break his nose like many would.

What does Bat Out Of Hell have to do with a situation that causes an argument between people? I love to listen to Bat, that's what I call entertainment (because singing that song actually requires talent - unlike yelling at someone). Seeing Meat (or whoever) get angry and scream because he's pissed at something / someone I consider rather annoying.

And if Busey is really "insane" he should not be admitted to such shows. But that would be less "entertaining", I guess.

:twisted: I don't think it's quite fair to condemn Gary Busey as being insane as we have no idea what he did to provoke such an outburst, and wether it was deserved.

Likewise, I don't think anyone can blame Meat just yet for being so angry because we don't know if it was justified.

To find out if Meat's reaction was justified or not, you've got to watch the show, and how about that?The ad has done it's job :mrgreen:


At this point in time I believe Meat has done it for (at least what he at heart believes to be) the right reasons, to do a little good in the world while raising his own profile.

The clips i've seen have certainly been explosive.
I'm not a fan of people being nasty to each other like that.There's too much of that in the world as it is without celebrities (who are role models to many, wether they like it or not) without going for each others throats and acting like kids in a playground.
That said, there is no denying it is popular and compelling viewing to the masses, especially when things are edited to show the worst and played out of context.


I think rather than argue about this show, we should at least hold off till we've watched it (or chosen not too) before we discuss the ins and outs :shrug:

And depending on the editing, even then you might not know! :rly:

Exactly

Here's an article about the show:

Donald Trump returns with "The Celebrity Apprentice" and an all-new celebrity lineup of candidates: David Cassidy, LaToya Jackson, Dionne Warwick, NeNe Leakes, Meatloaf , Jose Canseco, Richard Hatch, Gary Busey, Lil Jon, Mark McGrath, Hope Dworacyk, Marlee Matlin, Lisa Rinna, Niki Taylor, and Star Jones.

This is the fourth installment of "The Celebrity Apprentice" and the eleventh season of the series.

Contestants will not be vying for a job with Donald Trump however; instead the business-savvy celebrity contestants will be working towards a greater goal -- as they raise money for their various charities throughout the season. Not only will the final winner be crowned the 'Celebrity Apprentice,' but he or she will also have the honor of delivering a $250,000 bonus check to their designated charity.

All of the celebrities will be competing in business-driven tasks around New York City, using their fame along with their proven business acumen to win challenges, while ultimately raising money and awareness for their respective causes.

Just as in the regular "Apprentice," the celebrities will be subjected to long hours, grueling mental challenges, personality clashes, and intense scrutiny -- all without the help of their regular support system of agents, managers, and personal assistants.

Certain tasks encourage the contestants to reach out to their network of celebrity contacts for assistance or donations -- making for entertaining surprise visits by some of the world's biggest stars along the way.

All of the tasks will be judged by Trump and his advisers in the boardroom. Returning back to the boardroom are Trump's children (and colleagues) Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr., alongside longtime Trump Organization employee and "Apprentice" advisor George Ross.