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Evil One 25 Jun 2010 14:44

Best live version of For Crying Out Loud?
 
My favourite is from the El Mocambo show, but I think this is from a radio broadcast and not on the LP. I'm not really a fan of the Bottom Line LP as I don't think Meat and band had got into the swing of things yet. The LATW version is a bit too slow so my vote has to go to the MSO one.

Jayd 25 Jun 2010 15:37

MSO definately :D

duke knooby 25 Jun 2010 16:14

all of them

Wario 25 Jun 2010 19:01

el mocombo, only thing is on that theirs a stupid sound blip.

MSO close second and Old Waldorf a very close third.

RadioMaster 25 Jun 2010 19:27

I'm with El Mocambo as well, not just for the song, but also for the excellent introduction. For me this is what early Meat Loaf was all about!

GTB 25 Jun 2010 20:28

Is there anywhere I can listen to the El Mocambo performance? I've never heard it and FCOL is one of my favourite Meat/ Jim songs of all time!

Evil One 25 Jun 2010 20:41

Listen to it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSyVziz2kIY

Wario 25 Jun 2010 22:05

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 501899)

I take it you're a fan :cool:

Evil One 26 Jun 2010 00:46

Of the recording. :twisted:

Megan 27 Jun 2010 02:11

I really LOVE the MSO one....

Vickip 27 Jun 2010 02:16

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Originally Posted by Megan (Post 502106)
I really LOVE the MSO one....

Same here Megan :-)

fred2010 27 Jun 2010 05:16

one of the only songs i enjoy every version of....maybe because he didn't perform it much through the years? really hard to pick a favorite performance of this one

mariella 20 Jul 2010 21:17

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 501878)
My favourite is from the El Mocambo show, but I think this is from a radio broadcast and not on the LP. I'm not really a fan of the Bottom Line LP as I don't think Meat and band had got into the swing of things yet. The LATW version is a bit too slow so my vote has to go to the MSO one.

Can I ask what LATW stands for:oops:
I often listen to live at my father's place, not sure if that was ever released, but love that version!

And MSO too, by the way!

Evil One 20 Jul 2010 21:23

Live Around The World

Netty 20 Jul 2010 21:28

every time i'm watching the MSO version i'm crying like a child....so beautiful and the emotions that Meat puts into it, just amazing :-)

mariella 20 Jul 2010 21:33

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 506682)
Live Around The World

:oops::oops::oops::lol: Thank you!

Evil One 20 Jul 2010 23:54

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Originally Posted by mariella (Post 506680)
I often listen to live at my father's place, not sure if that was ever released

I'm pretty sure you mean one of the Bottom Line shows. My Father's Place was a promo LP and it didn't have FCOL on it.

robgomm 21 Jul 2010 00:07

Definately MSO one for me, just for the emotion and the passion. The MSO concert as a whole was brilliant.

A Slice Of English 21 Jul 2010 01:38

MSO is great but I actually do like the LATW version as well despite the apparent slowness of it. The recorded version on Bat was sped up so I actually like the LATW version for its "honesty" if that makes sense.

Julie in the rv mirror 29 Oct 2010 00:17

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 506720)
I'm pretty sure you mean one of the Bottom Line shows. My Father's Place was a promo LP and it didn't have FCOL on it.

I just listened to the Bottom Line shows here, http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/meat-loaf/ and that version of FCOL, especially the early show, is amazing! With Jim on piano- I love the way he works a bit of "Seize the Night" into the intro. Had he written "Seize the Night" that long ago? Or, maybe it came out of his tinkering with the FCOL intro?

Sorry if this has been discussed before- I did a search and couldn't find anything about it or Wolfgang's Vault- there are a couple of other shows and interviews you can listen to there (along with tons of other concerts by many artists).

Wario 29 Oct 2010 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 506720)
I'm pretty sure you mean one of the Bottom Line shows. My Father's Place was a promo LP and it didn't have FCOL on it.

its intro cuts off at the end of the LP....

White of High 29 Oct 2010 11:18

I think For Crying Out Loud is perfect on the album, one of the best if not the best song all around the world.

The live version is worse because of the arrangements. Only orchestra can give feeling back. His vocal in the last 10 years were bad for this song, so the only orchestra version was bad as well. I vote Mocombo, because his voice was great, he wasn't out of rhythm, enough fast...

carole 29 Oct 2010 11:59

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Originally Posted by White of High (Post 528057)
I think For Crying Out Loud is perfect on the album, one of the best if not the best song all around the world.

The live version is worse because of the arrangements. Only orchestra can give feeling back. His vocal in the last 10 years were bad for this song, so the only orchestra version was bad as well. I vote Mocombo, because his voice was great, he wasn't out of rhythm, enough fast...

You must be joking. How can you say Meat's voice has been bad for the last 10 years? When he sang this on the MSO DVD it is fantastic and nothing wrong with his voice there. At all the recent shows, Meat's voice has been the best ever.

Carole

robgomm 29 Oct 2010 13:06

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Originally Posted by carole (Post 528061)
You must be joking. How can you say Meat's voice has been bad for the last 10 years? When he sang this on the MSO DVD it is fantastic and nothing wrong with his voice there. At all the recent shows, Meat's voice has been the best ever.

Carole

Carole don't take the bait, we all know what this guy is like, there's no point responding to his posts. Hardly anyone on the forum agrees with the things he says anyway, so like I said, don't take the bait.

On another note, going slightly off topic, didn't Meat say at the MSO concert it was the first time he had done FCOL live since 1977? My friend was upset about this because there's the version on LATW, and there's some other performances during 85 i think? Anyone care to shed some light on this?

AndyK 29 Oct 2010 13:33

Please bear in mind that White of High is Hungarian, English isn't his first language. As such, sometimes what appears to be an "inflammatory comment" could be something that is clumsily worded perhaps?

Anyway, back to FCOL, I know Meat performed some of the song on the VBO tour in 1999, certainly at Wembley because I remember him singing it as clear as day, also I think it made a few appearances during the Storytellers tour, not sure if it was the whole song or part of it though. I've no recollection of it ever being performed live in 1985 during the Bad Attitude era.

Wario 29 Oct 2010 16:51

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Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 528066)
Carole don't take the bait, we all know what this guy is like, there's no point responding to his posts. Hardly anyone on the forum agrees with the things he says anyway, so like I said, don't take the bait.

On another note, going slightly off topic, didn't Meat say at the MSO concert it was the first time he had done FCOL live since 1977? My friend was upset about this because there's the version on LATW, and there's some other performances during 85 i think? Anyone care to shed some light on this?

The LATW version was a souncheck. Listen to teh commentary track on the CD. He has done it since 1977, but not in its entirety.

he never did it in 1983 or 1985 or 1987 or 1988 or 1989.

Evil One 29 Oct 2010 17:32

Caryl will probably be along shortly to point out that she heard Meat do the whole song at one of the Storytellers shows in the US, so Meat's comment before the MSO performance was a little porky. I still think that this is the best live version so far, with MSO coming in second:
YouTube Video

CarylB 29 Oct 2010 18:51

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Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 528074)
Anyway, back to FCOL, I know Meat performed some of the song on the VBO tour in 1999, certainly at Wembley because I remember him singing it as clear as day, also I think it made a few appearances during the Storytellers tour, not sure if it was the whole song or part of it though. I've no recollection of it ever being performed live in 1985 during the Bad Attitude era.

No I didn't hear it in the BA era either .. and yes, he sang it at some of the the Storytellers, and at the one I went to it was the entire song .. and perfect :) No harm in my saying this surely? Such a special song that so rarely featured .. it was memorable and made our evening incredible.

And with all the many songs Meat showcased during Storytellers, I think it's hardly surprising that he might not remember every song from every performance

Caryl

Wario 29 Oct 2010 19:10

I have a storytellers recording of FCOL and it was just part.

Evil One 29 Oct 2010 19:38

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Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 528096)
And with all the many songs Meat showcased during Storytellers, I think it's hardly surprising that he might not remember every song from every performance

Also saying "...The last time I did this song, live, was in March 1978 in New York City, except for the couple of times I did it on the Storytellers tour..." loses a bit of the impact. :twisted:

Wario 29 Oct 2010 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 528100)
Also saying "...The last time I did this song, live, was in March 1978 in New York City, except for the couple of times I did it on the Storytellers tour..." loses a bit of the impact. :twisted:

same goes for Hot Patootie I guess...

I dont think meat considers the storytelelrs tour a real meat loaf tour....

suzieq 30 Oct 2010 05:07

Yes, Hot Patootie was done on the Storytellers tour, so when it was found out that this was the mystery song for the HCTB tour it surprised me. Maybe he just doesn't remember all the ad libs he did during that tour.

Wario 30 Oct 2010 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq (Post 528114)
Yes, Hot Patootie was done on the Storytellers tour, so when it was found out that this was the mystery song for the HCTB tour it surprised me. Maybe he just doesn't remember all the ad libs he did during that tour.

no i think he remembers doing it then, but I just think he doesnt consider the storytellers tour a true tour...

Sarge 30 Oct 2010 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq (Post 528114)
Maybe he just doesn't remember all the ad libs he did during that tour.

That's the problem when you like telling stories. ;)

Wario 30 Oct 2010 15:03

he also stated in 2003 he never did id lie for you live and it was the first time he ever did it :wtf:

Evil One 30 Oct 2010 15:20

There was a time when he also said he'd never sang I'm Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us live since 1981, so you have to take a lot of what Meat says as embellished. :twisted:

Wario 30 Oct 2010 15:24

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 528130)
There was a time when he also said he'd never sang I'm Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us live since 1981, so you have to take a lot of what Meat says as embellished. :twisted:

i don't see the problem if he said "i havent performed it live since 1988" or "I haven't performed it in about 20 years"

AndyK 30 Oct 2010 17:31

I can't remember what I did at work 15 years ago ... can you?

Evil One 30 Oct 2010 17:51

Some days I struggle to remember what I did yesterday! :lol:

daveake 30 Oct 2010 20:09

I thought I struggled yesterday to remember what I did the day before, but now I'm not so sure ...


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