Mercury seek fans' input for Meat's next release!!
 

The Republic of Loafdom is thrilled to announce a joint project with Mercury Records, Meat's recording company in the UK.

Mercury Records is gearing towards its next commercial release for Meat and and want to get the content right so the fans get what they want! To do this they have asked ROL to front this exercise and seek information from the fans.

This is a great opportunity to let them know what you want, AND everyone who completes their simple questionnaire will be entered in a draw for one of 5 autographed copies of the new album!!

All you have to do is visit:
http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/main/NewSingle.htm

and complete the questionnaire which can be accesssed from the page. Full details are given there.

Your answers will go straight to Mercury's Product Manager. We all discuss what we'd like to see included on Meat's next single release .. this is our chance to let him and the company know!! So don't miss out on this great opportunity to have your voice heard, and to be in the draw for one of those autographed CDs :)
Caryl

On my way Caryl....... 8)

............This is larger than life........... 8)

That's cool, filled out the form already.

This is such a great idea...love it

Now al I have to do is keep my fingers crossed.....
Lol

Asha

This is awesome - what an opportunity - have filled out questionaire

It really is awesome isn't it Dot? Giving the fans a say :)))))) Just wonderful!!

Heading there now, great idea... now to see if they pay attention :wink:

I'd have thought so Jen .. why would they go to all this trouble if they're not interested? Now, I may not get exactly what I want .. but I think they will take account of what most do and do their best :))

Here's hoping so... maybe I can be a little too pessimistic at times :D

I think this is very cool- it is outstanding that Meat and the record company want our input, and it's great just how specific they want that input to be! I enjoyed filling it out, considering the possibilities of what could be on the new singles! I'm hoping to win one of the five autographed CD's- now if only Meat would hand deliver it! :lol: (You know Florida is very nice this time of year.)

Anyway, big thanks to ROL for getting involved in this!

Sherrie

Thanks Sherrie :)) I'm just thrilled the ROL can be part of this !

Good luck winning a CD !! Of course he could deliver one to me in Delaware on his way to Florida ............ ok I can dream, can't I? :lol:

Vicki

This is a great idea. Will be interesting to see what we actually get on the B-side of Testify.

Have just sent off my questionnaire. Hoping now that I win CD though not very likely! Great that they want to know what the fans think, how many other bands/singers would care as much?

my number one choice woulda been for the cd to be marketed properly but that option wasn't there lol. Maybe this is their way of apologising.

Yes Chris .. now we've got the questionnaire up and running I'm about to start asking questions about how many singles will be pressed this time .. more than 6500 I hope!!!!

Mercury have to realise that this is something different for meat and he willgain some new fans as a result, certainly non meat fans will buy it too. This has the potential to bea summer hit, there's always a catchy summer song every year!!

Also, i think mercury should release Testify on 2 different cd's. Then sales will be better because us fans at least will buy both cd's. Also more of our requests could featured over 2 cd editions of the song. I liked the 2 diferent cds of DIST polydor released in germany!! I think 2 cd's is the key to a lot more sales.

Great job, Caryl!

Can't wait to see what happens next!
Do you have any idea which song will be released in the US as a single?
Testify? :bunny:
Gues I will have to be patient!

Thank you so much,

Mariella

Don't know the planned release date yet, but have asked and ex[lained that we want to be in a position to create interest this time with our efforts. As soon as | have any infol I will post it. :))

Other posts have suggested that Testify has been named as the lead track this is for the additionals the bonus and a bonus for us to have some input..........bet they have their tail between their legs for their performance over CHSIB.

they need to add a few more 0's on the production amounts this time round :roll:

You speak the truth oh Grasshopper .. lol

Thanks for posting the link, Caryl - i've just sent mine off :lol:

Here's hoping they finally listen to us :D

Heat
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wooohoo, on me way to do it now!!!

cool ive just been of and done it :D

Just filled questionaire in - can't wait to see the outcome

It's come to my attention that some people are apparently complaining about this exercise. In particular this has been posted on the internet:

Whoever has put this on the net has had neither the fairness, nor the courtesy, to put my comments in the context of the time. If we cast our minds back I think this was how many of us felt, and my comments were no more severe than others made, indeed less than some. I stand by everything I said about Mercury at the time, indeed I sent my comments to Mercury's MD. Perhaps because of my correspondence with the MD and others in the organisation they chose me and my website when they decided to put more effort into the next release. I personally think it's great that they want to make this effort, but of course any who do not feel this do not have to participate.

As to ROL being merely a fantasy site, this may have been closer the truth a while back, but now we DO have hard news, concert information etc. And we have consistently had one of the largest and most comprehensive multimedia suites for Meat Loaf on the web.

If anybody thinks I am an unsuitable choice to spearhead this initiative, that is their perogative and they do not have to take part, however I'd just say that my persistence, and my strenuous promoting of Meat's new album and single might just be what made Mercury approach me, and in my view this is about Meat and his fans .. or am I wrong?

Finally there have apparently also been concerns raised because the forms are going to ROL. At the moment we do not have a working email link to Mercury, and I have today sent the first 120 responses to Clive Cawley, their Product Manager. We hope to get the email link working on Monday, although the forms will continue to be copied to ROL. If anybody doubts my integrity I will forward their name to Mike and ask him to confirm receipt of their form.

Sorry .. re the above .. I will send their names to Clive

Just came across the blog site you were referring to caryl, where did it come from, who does it belong to? I stumbled upon it last night whilst looking for the charity concert reviews, does it belong to another site or is it on its own?
Minus what you posted above, it does have some good meat updates on the news front

I don't know Chris. There's no contact email so whoever runs it obviously feels free to post whatever they like without recourse from those they post about. Our website has our email addresses clearly on the Route page so anyone with concerns can contact us.

:evil: I can't believe just how petty minded some people are!!! Does it really matter that the questionairre is linked to the ROL site? I think not.

The fact that we have even been asked for our participation with this project is amazing, and speaks volumes for Caryl's and others efforts in trying to promote Meat when really it's a job that Mercury records should have been doing all along anyway. Just goes to show what a lot of dedication and perseverance can do :P

As for the questionairre being linked to the ROL site, i personally don't give a fiddlers fart - if some people find it a problem, fine, don't fill it in, but i for one am really pleased that Mercury want our opinion, and as long as i can get what i want to say across to them, then i have no problem with whatever site it may be linked to.

Just my humble opinion :roll:

Heat
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Well said Heat

Does it really matter how or through whatever site they get the fans opinions from, just so long as they do.

And mine too.

Love,

Mariella

Thanks Heat, Jen and Mariella. It's meant to be about Meat and the fans, nothing else :))

And I should also point out to the "concerned" that the auto-response Thank You will continue to come from ROL as we host the form. This is not an indicator of whether emailed forms are going to Mercury.

I agree with heat, I don't care wich site it is, it's the initiative that counts, and I would have filled it out anyway, because I believe our opinions count...

The question if one site is better to host a questionaire then an other is just nonsense. ROL is a good choice, not only because CarylB has had contact with Mercury, but also because she (and vickip) can reach a lot of fans....and the more input the better, but it could also have been MOTS or MLUKFC or OIFC for that matter (just some ideas, to make the point!)

Also, I think, it's the same kind of question as: Is MLUKFC better because Meat posts here??? same kind of nonsense question! People should just enjoy the chances they get, to cast there votes/opinions on the new single and they're chance to "talk" to Meat.

So I would say, Enjoy, have a great day and chill

Asha

time to toss in my loafdom dollar...that's right...i'm THAT tink..of ROL..in case no one had guessed by now...so go ahead whoever you are..hiding behind your blog...you can start on me now....you usually do...

when caryl told me about Mercury contacting her..i was so thrilled...for several reasons...

i was so happy that ROL had been selected to spearhead this project..and i agree with caryl...that in all likelyhood itwas because of her gallant effort to promote Meat's cd in the UK that she and the site came to their attention...

i was thrilled for her and vicki..on a personal level...they are more than just friends to me...they are family...as far as i'm concerned...they are my sisters...and i mean that from the bottom of my heart...they have been very kind to me...ours is not just some internet friendship...we have spent time at one another's homes...true day to day living time with one another....my point being...they that attack my sisters...attack me....

but most of all...i was oh so over the top thrilled..that Mercury was giving fans the opportunity to put two cents into what Meat would be releasing to his public...i can't tell you how many times...that on the ROL list...our citizens have bantered about what songs they would like to hear Meat sing....and now...all will have that opportunity to make their rock and roll dreams come through...have some input...to have one of Meat's cds go out into the world...and be able to say...i helped with the decision...how flooping thrilling is that???

and in good faith...caryl posts and let's all know about the project...and 99pct...are thrillled...but there's that ...1pct...and they know who they are....and quite frankly..i have my suspicions of who they are...only suspect as i've no proof...yet....that just have to up and rain all over the parade...for reasons of their own...

it's galling really...but nothing that i've not seen before...i was involved in working fan clubs...many moons ago..and saw it all back then....and i'm sure many moons from now...i'll see it all againe...

but i'll leave that sad point go...for now....

in the interim...as i've seen Meat say here...errr...or FIRE BALL..lol...and i paraphrase...chill out...relax...and have some fun...END OF PARAPHRASING...lol...

and be thrilled that you..yes ..you..hey..and you over there..will have a say in what our Meat will be releasing to the WORLD... :-) ...

come on..how very kewwwl...is that....

ps: Meat...if ya read this? the same as always i say to you...love ya...thank ya...bless ya..and stay well... biiiig hug...XO

oh..and big hugs for the rest of yez too..jeez..they get so jealous!!!.. rolling....

Frankly: If what I said somewhere would be quoted out of context so that it seems I was saying something different: I'd be very mad about that. Smoke coming out of my ears kinda mad. Especially if you can't respond to that or contact the one that did it.
I don't think you as internet-user can find out who's behind a certain weblog.
Your ISP can, internet isn't as anonymous as many people think, everything leaves a trace. But the security/abuse department of your ISP won't trace a person, unless it is about abuse.

It's strange though... I follow a few dutch weblogs myself and there the owner presents him/herself. After all, a weblog is kinda of an online diary. Some use it as a html-editor or website. But originally weblogs were meant as online diary's.

The things that were quoted, where on i-net did you say them?
And hey, don't let this spoil your fun and excitement. Would be a bloody shame if you let this rain on your parade.
Guppie

- edited because I used another word than "mad", which was forbidden :lol:

ok after reading all of that i am TOTALLY LOST!!!
:?
i give up now!!

Hi Guppie and thanks :) The comments attributed to me were I think most likely copied from this forum during the discussions we had when the first single was launched. |I stand by them, but I think it's pretty mean spirited of whoever was responsible for posting them on that blog to put them out of context. So, I'm saddened when people try to diminish things .. but I believe this is a great project and I'm still proud to be part of it. People may try to rain on a parade .. but they can't really spoil a good one :))

What a shame we have such small minded people in this world.
Silly me I thought this was all about Meat Loaf and his fans.
Mercury ballsed up on the UK single and album release.........Caryl had the gumption and audacity to got straight to the top of Mercury and this obviously had an effect and they realised they needed to consult the fans (bet Meat had a few choice words too!). Caryl kept us all informed via the thread at the time which Meat started asking for help. Looks like people are quoting to suit........if I had the time and energy I'd go back and copy all her efforts along with others at promoting and getting both single and album both heard and wrote about.
Seems to me that the natural progression was for them to appoach the person who had been fighting Meat's corner.
The point is that our opinion is being sought or maybe we didn't want this?

Having been a fan since the late 70's bringing my kids up on his music I am so happy that fan's opinions are being sought by whatever avenue after all whatever site or country our common bond is Meat Loaf. Isn't it?

You're absolutely right Sin :))
Thank you for your kind words and all your support - we couldn't do it without you !


Vicki

Just a note to say that the ROL site is unavailable for the moment, including the Questionnaire page. In working on our security settings e have unfortunately locked everyone, including ourselves out!! Until our server can let us in I'm afraid we're stymied .. but we'll get everything up and running as soon as we can, so those wishing to complete the Questionnaire please chack back tomorrow and if necessary Monday.

Yeah... come on... let's be honest: everybody was all over the record company about stuff... too little promo, release date's that went wrong... not enough copy's pressed... Hell.. I'm in the Netherlands and could'nt get my album until days later.
If someone was to quote me on some of my remarks, It would look like I HATE the record company.
It's SO easy...

But if the Blog person quoted from this forum, he/she is reading this and unless he/she is a coward, he/she will respond.


And hey... don't let this tear you down.
I'm 42, and SO arrogant. Nothing can tear me down. I only listen to the people that are important to me. F*ck the rest , he he... :D

Right Guppie :) .. And as I said, I made all those comments to the MD of Mercury .. and perhaps that's why they approached me eh? No-one could accuse me of being up Mercury's backside!!

And I won't let it get me down .. hey .. 150 forms completed HAS to be good :))))

150 already... there you go... :D
And no, he he he... nobody can accuse you of sucking up and brown-nosing, they picked your website anyway.
:D

tink ....

I Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself :)) <-- sorry just couldn't resist!!

Seriously .... thank you so much for your kind words and all your support. You know I feel exactly the same way you do, about you, Caryl and I being like a family. Of course I'm honored that they asked ROL to spearhead the project ... not only for the fans, but because I support Meat and the CD 1000% and would do anything I could to help.

But on a more personal note, I just want to thank Caryl for all her hard work and dedication :) I'm so thrilled for her right now ! If you need to get the job done, she's the one can do it !! I'm just happy to have the opportunity to work with her :)

So hopefully we can put this petty jealousy behind us and get back to what's important ... supporting Meat and letting our voices be heard :)

Thanks Caryl ... and thank you Fireball !!!!!

Vicki

I like your thinking Guppie :)
Vicki

You have a way with words, Guppie! If only we could arrange an attitude and arrogance transplant for me- I need a bit more of both, meek one that I can be!


Sherrie

i'd like to thank those who have shown support and spoken kind words...

and to the rest...be danged...tuh...

Indeed Tink :))

And ROL is back up and running, so the Questionnaire is now accessible again .. let's get that figure to 200!!!

Thanks everybody :)

You're very welcome .. and thank you Caryl :))

hip hip hoooraaay..the magic is BACK...

thanks me sweeties.....XO

You're welcome :))
Vicki

My dream release for testify would be:

CD1: Enhanced

Testify Album Version
Testify Radio Version
Testify Dance Mix (Lets get meatinto clubs!!)
Testify Video

CD2:

Testify Album Version
Did I Say That Live Cologne
Couldn’t Have Said It Better Live Cologne
Anything For Love Night of The Proms

We need to different releases for it and let the public chose what one they want. Obvoiusly us fans will buy both!

CarylB wrote:
Woops, my fault?
I didn't mean that you had to lock the entire site :lol:
Just that you might up the security..... :!:

Asha

Asha said:
Ah .. but Vicki never does things by halves .. :)) No matter .. we're back ow :)

:wink: fill out a form then Chris Dreams can come true :wink:

Hi Asha :)

Nope .. not at all! Actually I appreciate your help :)
I was trying to up the security .. as you suggested .. but I guess I pushed the wrong button :roll:

At least everything's up and running again now .. that's the main thing :))
Vicki

Just a stoopid question....

Are we only allowed to vote once or can we have multiple votes?

Just curious is all :D

Heat
xxx

Mercury want to know what each fan who takes part would like to see included on the new CD. My understanding is that each fan who participates will be entered once in the draw and that they will identify that through email address

:)) :)) :))

when do we now who won the draw?? im prob bein really stupid and missed it knowin me.

We've put a two week deadline on the completion of forms. Whether Mercury will extend that or not I don't know, but I assume they will do the draw soon after the cut-off. I'll post any information I get here :)

thankyou CarylB

I feel the need to speak up and inform you that your statements of opinion about someone being jealous are very misinformed - rather I would like to publically state that individuals are feeling very much violated and decieved by a false statement made by Caryl on not only this forum, but also to several Meat Loaf related mail lists. I have recieved several messages regarding this situation (to my e-mail, to my PM box here on the forum, as well as on the Instant Messenger programs). People are feeling NO FORM of jealousy. I think people are feeling decieved by the fact Caryl stated the results of the form were going straight to Mercury Records when in fact the results of the form were going straight to Caryl.

I would like to share a portion of the message I have sent out to a few people who have contacted me about this situation, which most have agreed with 100%.

I am ready for negative discussion to head my direction. I know that certain people will feel the need to lash out at me, but I stand firm in the fact that there was a vulgar display of deception on Caryl's part (which was retracted when myself, among other people were able to read her HTML code and find where the results of the form on her site were really going), and I am further confident in the fact that I am indeed "brave enough" to stand in a public forum and inform you that your statements about people being "jealous" are off base and unwarranted. People are feeling upset, hurt, and violated that someone with a website that claims to be as important as the Republic Of Loafdom would blatently decieve the entire Meat Loaf community in such a manner.

I would like to further commend whomever created the CHSIB World Tour Blog for stating an obvious irony in this whole RoL/Mercury Records situation.

I will now step down from my soap box and allow the chips to fall where they may. I know this will cause a heated discussion, and some individuals may feel are being singled out, but I feel that something needs to be said to bring the conversation into the right perspective.

ok so now im totally confused, can some one put whats bin goin on in simple form cos im only a simple person :oops:

David,
This little Dutch fishy is not getting into [shark-modus] and I'm not into the lashing-out business either, so you have nothing to fear from me :wink:
But... Caryl did say that she didn't have a direct link yet. And that she would mail the entries to Mercury right? So in that case it makes sense that the feedbackforms go back to ROL...

I don't feel decieved, I mean: I just can't believe some one would lie about having contact with a record company. That's just not logical in my view.

I have already explained that because we do not have a working email link for the form to Mercury the forms have been sent on to them. I have made this clear on the board. And anyone who had concerns could have written to ME and I would have expained. I hope to get this sorted out with Mercury on MOnday as I said. All the forms submitted so far have been sent to the Product Manager. The majority of people clearly do not share David Driskell's view.

I point out also he has not had the simple decency of writing to me about this. I will say not a further word about him .. frankly this kind of smear campaign is not worth responding to. At least I can sleep nights.

Thanks Guppie. I've only just seen your message. And Testify, sorry I ca't explain the thinking and behavious of some people. Just rest assured that this is a genuine request from Mercury's Project Mamnager, and that your forms will have been sent to him.

This was part of her retraction. If you read her original posting, you will see she said the results were going straight to Mercury's Product Manager. She said NOTHING about forwarding them to this individual.

I did acknowledge that she stated a retraction to this statement. But, her first statement was inaccurate.

Oh and David .. the forms go to myself and Vicki, and will continue to do this even when we have the email link working to Mercury. And as I have already pointed out, the acknowledgements will continue to come from ROL as we host the form.

As to all these people you have emailed trying to stir up trouble, send me copies of their concers and I'll reply to each individually and ask Clive to respond to them if need be. Like I said before when you were conducting a campaign against me with the OIFC, hard evidence please.

The first statement was inaccurate because the email address did not arrive in time from Mercury you ass

My ethincal code does not permit me to share personal e-mail without permission.

Sorry!

Since when is bringing the TRUTH to light a smear campaign?

Caryl.
With respect,David has received queries on this subject,and as a moderator it is his JOB to respond to any questions or complaints made by the membership on any subject posted on these boards.That's what we're here for.
The fact that information given in your first post was inacurate has caused some concern amongst members.Therefore it must be addressed.

This thing is way off topic and now nothing more than a battleground for personal attacks.
We don't need this here.

Locked.