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CarylB 28 May 2010 11:48

FAN CAMPAIGN SINGLE: LIKE A ROSE
 
Join the Campaign Group facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Last week Leeds United FC got a single into the UK top 10 by harnessing support on Facebook. We believe we have a real chance of getting the chosen single track "Like A Rose" to the top slot in week commencing 14th of June. The song should appeal to Jack Black fans as well, and to young people who might not associate such a ballsy song with someone they might see as an old rocker :)

This project is about smashing into the UK Singles chart. Given we pull it off we can go for other country's charts with another track, but right now we are asking people to download this track from UK sites. You may have the album, but what we're asking is for people to stand up for Meat against the label who fail to vigorously promote singles to gather momentum for the album, and who fail to vigorously promote him, and to support him by downloading a track for around 89p .. less than the cost of one drink on a Friday night.

We have launched a website meatchart.net, and all our promotional materials will be available through there:

http://www.meatchart.net

Meat has millions of loyal fans who love him and support him.

Stand up with us and together we can do this!!

Our plan follows. Nikox will keep you posted on our progress on this thread.

CarylB 28 May 2010 11:54

THE PLAN

Our plan is in two phases:

GETTING THE WORD OUT runs from now up until Download Day on 14th June.

We need to spread the word as widely as possible using internet, press, news blogs, radio, TV, word of mouth. Meat has millions of fans around the world, and we want to harness the support of as many of them as possible, and here's where we need your help.

Internet.
We have a promotional video and text to accompany it. This needs to be on as many webpages around the world as we can get it to. We need you to host our video and message on your webpages, Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, fansite, blog .. whatever you have. And we need you to give a link to meatchart.net to encourage more people to support us and do the same. This needs to spread around the internet like a pandemic, reaching out to the millions of fans who own and love his work.

Wherever you visit on the net we need to get this message out:

MEAT LOAF FANS DOING IT FOR MEAT!!!!
Meat Loaf fans everywhere are planning to get his raunchy, rockin' duet with Jack Black
Like A Rose
to Number One in the UK Singles chart
on 14 June 2010
Join the campaign now!
http://www.meatchart.net

When people come to meatchart.net they will be able to get all our promotional materials, plus sign up their commitment to buying the track on 14June, in return getting a signed picture of Meat as a thank you.

Media Coverage
We have a Press Release which will be going to the media on Monday to get this in the news. More and more fans are becoming disillusioned with the way labels treat their cherished iconic performers these days, and are taking matters into their own hands. We intend to capitalise on this. Lorenzoduke is managing our national press campaign.

In addition we need people to volunteer to make contact by phone and email to local radio/TV/newspapers and post on news blogs, spreading the word, and putting the call out to Meat Loaf fans to go to meatchart.net and sign up their commitment to download and to continue spreading the word themselves. Radio stations can't play "Like A Rose" simply because the label hasn't released a second single .. and not one that's almost too hot for airplay :) But it's a story we could interest them in, and just telling listeners to go to meatchart.net would be hugely helpful.

So many people have a story of how Meat's music has touched their lives, often in an incredbly moving way. These human interest stories appeal to the media, and if it grabs their attention, it's another chance to get the word out.

We will have available mini Press Packs for download to help people focus their efforts in the best possible way, and have a team of Local Media Managers who will co-ordinate their efforts and support/advise. 100 calls to the same organisation just tends to piss them off .. we need to be focused, co-ordinated and successful.

The LMMs are:
CarylB
Nikox
Melon
Netty
Snider22
SuzieQ

Please PM them here to offer your support.

Poster Campaign
We have a range of posters to publicise the campaign, which can be downloaded from meatchart.net, and ask people to post them on workplace/recreational notice boards with permission, but not flypost them about in public where they could harm the reputation of the performer they want to support

Mailshots
Rainer has kindly agreed to mailshot the membership list, so please don't be aggravated when you get one which repeats some of this :)
There will also be a reminder on D Day which will give the direct link to the download page on meatchart.net

We're still working on other things, for example harnessing the support of media celebrities, and will update you as and when we have news.

Nikox will post updates on our progress on this thread


LAUNCH DAY 14th JUNE

We will have a new promotional video available from Friday 11 June, which will direct people to meatchart.net to download the single.

Our download page will go live at 12.01am UK time on 14th June. The download sites we will feature will be:
itunes
Amazon.uk
HMV.uk
Tesco

Fans from outside the UK currently cannot download from these sites unless they have a UK bank account or credit/debit card and a UK IP address, but we're working on this to try and find a solution.

We will ensure that all downloads from Amazon.uk are credited to MLUK. We will ask that sites link back to us for downloading to enable this. If anyone wishes people to download the track from their site directly, they will need the relevant urls to ensure this happens, and need to hold back from going live until on or after 00.01am BST.

A second mailshot will go out.

Publicity will continue, with your support, until 19 June at 21.00 BST when the tally of sales will be counted.

This is a time whe Meat's many loyal fans can send a message to the music business, and stand up and be counted in their support of him. Please offer whatever support you can by whatever means we have outlined above, come to http://www.meatchart.net and download as much promotional material as you can use to help make getting Like A Rose to #1 a reality.

Then on 14 June invest 89p in this performer we all follow.

WE CAN DO THIS!!!
LET'S TAKE MEAT TO THE TOP ON 14 JUNE!!!


:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Wario 29 May 2010 01:59

TOTALLY! THIS WILL BE A SUCCESS.

Here is a complimentary wallpaper. hope you like it. :cool:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...IKEAROSE-1.png

Rage Against 29 May 2010 02:04

Wow, this is well beyond a Meat Loaf street team. Excellent job people!!!!!:D

snider22 29 May 2010 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 498661)
TOTALLY! THIS WILL BE A SUCCESS.

Here is a complimentary wallpaper. hope you like it. :cool:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...IKEAROSE-1.png

Awesome picture man, I just added to the Facebook Group Page

Thanks

nikox1 29 May 2010 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by snider22 (Post 498666)
Awesome picture man, I just added to the Facebook Group Page

Thanks

yeah, super!! thanks!! c,mon join up on facebook now!! MAKE MEAT NUMBER ONE:D , not 2 not 3 but number one!!!!!!!!:D

Wario 29 May 2010 03:04

wheres the group page at?

Monstro 29 May 2010 03:37

gotta say I'm well impressed with the work gone into this

nikox1 29 May 2010 03:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 498675)
gotta say I'm well impressed with the work gone into this

thank you, lots more to come we hope?

suzieq 29 May 2010 04:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 498674)
wheres the group page at?

here ya go wario:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...17435914964680

Suzieq

melon 29 May 2010 04:27

Wario, AWESOME Thanks guys!! Facebook group here guys.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

melon 29 May 2010 04:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq (Post 498677)

Lol good work Suzie

suzieq 29 May 2010 04:31

You too Mel. Virtual high 5.

melon 29 May 2010 05:30

Yeow!

Sarge 29 May 2010 05:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 498661)

Good work, I like this better than the video and the posters. :-)

CarylB 29 May 2010 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 498675)
gotta say I'm well impressed with the work gone into this

Thanks :) Now we need people to join

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...17435914964680

Pass it on to their contacts and ask them to pass it on to ours

Caryl

robgomm 29 May 2010 15:55

I'm there, posted to my profile.

TheDoode 29 May 2010 17:24

Am about to join the Facebook group - but I really, REALLY, suggest the use of Wario's promo poster, because that is EXACTLY the vibe that will help make this whole thing come off! Brilliant, man.

The facebook page is coming across as a bit too fan-made in the writing - can we work on that? Caryl? I've got a few hours this week if you want any input - mail me. In the mean time, this is what I've got:

The record company wouldn't release it. Radio refused to play it.
Now it's down to YOU.

(insert 'uncle sam' pointing type picture)

Sick of being force-fed factory made drum-looped psuedo-pop?
Feeling insulted by being forced to listen to the bland blathering techno-beats forced down your ears by The Man?
Got a real bad ache for some real, ball-busting, guitar injected super-rock?
Then step right up, 'cos we've got the perfect antidote to the bland, souless, robo-girl garbage flooding the airwaves and rotting our miiiiiiinds.

Remember that funky dude with the huge voice and the weight problem? Well now he's in the studio, with Meat Loaf, and man, it's sounding totally frickin' hot:

(insert sound clip link)

If you want music to surivive in the 21st century, help us to help you - to help them - by downloading the single on June 14th,
and let's rock the charts ... and take our music back again.

Time to stick it to the man, people.


Like A Rose - Meat Loaf/Jack Black.


Disclaimer:
If you're easily offended by the f*ck word, well, what the hell, go buy it anyway. Just don't play it in front of your grandparents.


It still needs a little work ... feel free to play.

Doode :cool:

stretch37 29 May 2010 19:33

Doode - I like it man, lets get that sh** posted up there

I agree...the fb group looks a little too....cliqueish. People should set their display pictures to something other than having Meat in them with them. Its probably intimidating to less-dedicated ppl joining the group.

ps we're gonna have a twitter and myspace page soon, im doing them. we need more of a badass writeup like that. Along with the design of the myspace page, which is pretty damn hot, it will really grab you by the balls and make you want to become involved.

A Slice Of English 29 May 2010 19:38

I agree. Having looked at some of the profile pictures, they're flat out disturbing.

TheDoode 29 May 2010 19:44

Hey guys, glad you liked the angle I was going for. It needs some re-wording, but it was a vibe that I wanted to get across that takes away from the whole 'fan-made' angle! However, Caryl has asked me not to post ideas direct to the board - which I may possibly-almost-maybe consider :twisted: - so for now I guess I'll keep it to email unless I feel there's something I need to post.

Feel free to play with the words if you think you can improve on them! I'm all for the collaboration.

Doode :cool:

mtaylor315 29 May 2010 20:10

I've joined the facebook page, and asked all friends on my facebook to do the same :-)

i'd just like to say that you guys are doing an amazing job with all of this. i expected a great effort, but this is truly great :)

All the best
Mike

mariella 29 May 2010 22:24

Best song on the album...so I love it with a Passion!....feels like deja vu to CHSIB...I will take 10!

Love,
Mariella

carole 30 May 2010 00:15

Fantastic guys, this is going to happen!!!!!

Carole

stretch37 30 May 2010 10:19

Well done to everyone who is involved :D All of your hard work and energy is astounding!

jcmoorehead 30 May 2010 13:53

Just signed myself up the other day, my girlfriend signed up as well and I just got my friend to. Looking forward to seeing how this pans out.

R. 30 May 2010 14:05

The more controversial parts of this thread have been moved over here. Feel free to join the discussion.

nikox1 30 May 2010 20:45

Fan Campaign Update
 
Thanks for all the support.
Tomorrow we have our first press release go out.
Hopefully this will be picked up by some of the media.
In the meantime we need as many people as we can muster to join our facebook campaignhttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

So please join us there and contact as many people as you can, and ask them to do the same, and for them to ask their friends etc etc,,. if we can get people joining in numbers fast? we can seek more press coverage as fans come together to take on the music industry and stand up for Meat and good old rock n roll music. Calling all fans from around the world!! right now we are seeking general support for the principles of the campaign. thank you

Evil One 30 May 2010 20:50

Putting a link to your Facebook group may have helped with this campaign? :shrug:

LP 30 May 2010 20:55

I agree, I had to hunt around too much - only seconds but seconds count - it would be great to have a link with the Facebook logo right at the top of your page... especially as it's Facebook's potential to create a number 1 that you're after.

Apart from that, it's a great idea.

CarylB 30 May 2010 20:55

Join our faceboook group and help spread the word

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Monstro 30 May 2010 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 498869)
Putting a link to your Facebook group may have helped with this campaign? :shrug:

Sorted

CarylB 30 May 2010 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by LP (Post 498870)
I agree, I had to hunt around too much - only seconds but seconds count - it would be great to have a link with the Facebook logo right at the top of your page... especially as it's Facebook's potential to create a number 1 that you're after.

Apart from that, it's a great idea.

Thanks. We didn't have a facebook page then :) .. but we take ideas on board and run fast with them. Monstro has sorted this update and I've asked R to put it at the top of the first post in our sticky thread .. unless Monstro can do the honours? .. and above the first paragraph on the first post put

Join the Campaign Group facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Thanks

Caryl

LP 30 May 2010 21:08

Nice one... how exciting. What can I do for the campaign down here in Cornwall?

Monstro 30 May 2010 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 498874)
Thanks. We didn't have a facebook page then :) .. but we take ideas on board and run fast with them. Monstro has sorted this update and I've asked R to put it at the top of the first post in our sticky thread .. unless Monstro can do the honours? .. and above the first paragraph on the first post put

Join the Campaign Group facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Thanks

Caryl

Done

Cherry.Loaf 30 May 2010 21:13

Will do my best

edit: having some problems with groups at the minute but will hopefully get to join it soon

CarylB 30 May 2010 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 498876)
Done

Cheers and thanks :)

Rage Against 30 May 2010 21:58

Nice job on the website and materials!! I've posted the campaign to my Facebook and joined the group. Let me know what else I can do. Exciting stuff...:up:

Monstro 31 May 2010 21:46

Fan Campaign Press Release
 
Meat Loaf Fans Rally In Support Of UK Chart Effort....

http://www.prlog.org/10706779-meat-l...rt-effort.html

stretch37 01 Jun 2010 10:29

Twitter and Myspace are now live!

http://www.twitter.com/meatchart

http://www.myspace.com/meatchart

Follow and add us if you support the campaign :-)

TheDoode 01 Jun 2010 14:00

Tick, tock - thirteen days.

LP 01 Jun 2010 15:05

Is it not possible to get something on the official site and Meat's twitter page?

Does anyone know how many copies need to be downloaded to be within a chance?

Sarge 01 Jun 2010 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by LP (Post 499044)
Is it not possible to get something on the official site and Meat's twitter page?

I don't know whether that's a good idea. It would appear kind of strange if the artist himself promoted such a fan campaign. That could easily be misinterpreted.

TheDoode 01 Jun 2010 16:02

Thirteen days to download day!

duke knooby 01 Jun 2010 23:37

the promotion appears to be heavily advertising jack blacks involvement... is there any promotion targeted directly to the jack black/tenacious d fans??

Pudding 02 Jun 2010 02:55

How's the "We want 2000 fans a day" target coming along on Facebook?

SueW 02 Jun 2010 08:07

I've just had to delete several posts which are just snipes at each other.

Please keep on topic and treat everybody with respect.

Battybarb 02 Jun 2010 14:14

just read whats on here,had already joined on the facebook page,impressed with the work thats gone into it all

Dave 02 Jun 2010 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by LP (Post 499044)
Is it not possible to get something on the official site and Meat's twitter page?

Lady GaGa has thrown shout outs to fan vids on YouTube, and I know Aaron Carter and Adam Lambert have had recent tweets promoting fan based campaigns. It is not uncommon. We are in the digital age - in 30 minutes, massive groups of people have made random things "trend" in Twitter, which generates buzz in the media. It is all viral and rampant now. The times they are a'changing.

Wario 02 Jun 2010 16:44

look at it this way we have at the moment almost 600 members in the group :D:D:D:D

thats a little more then half the population of Wyoming :cool:

daveake 02 Jun 2010 16:49

It's nearly the same as the number of polls that you've started ;-).

Is this going to be enough or do TPTB need to find something to get the number up towards the 2000 per day target that was mentioned? I guess it's somewhere less than a tenth of that so far.

Pudding 02 Jun 2010 21:26

Could do with Kev weighing in here with numbers and what chart position it could reach.

Out of interest, if one person downloaded the track a dozen times would it class as a dozen sales or just one because of the same IP address?

Jayd 02 Jun 2010 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 499221)
Could do with Kev weighing in here with numbers and what chart position it could reach.

Out of interest, if one person downloaded the track a dozen times would it class as a dozen sales or just one because of the same IP address?

I read something about this when Rage Against The Machine was going for number 1. Even if you buy the track from various sites, they have a way of tracking your purchases, so only once will your purchase count, I presume it's through your IP address. :D

Monstro 02 Jun 2010 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 499221)
Could do with Kev weighing in here with numbers and what chart position it could reach.

Only info I could find on this is here....

http://www.ukchartsplus.co.uk/singleschart.htm

1500 to get to 75

AndyK 02 Jun 2010 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayd (Post 499233)
I read something about this when Rage Against The Machine was going for number 1. Even if you buy the track from various sites, they have a way of tracking your purchases, so only once will your purchase count, I presume it's through your IP address. :D

I'm not sure that's strictly true, the campaign by Leeds fans recently was based around the fact that you could purchase multiple copies over a period of time I don't thikn there is any IP address tracking other than ensuring that the purchase is made in the UK. iTunes also has the "send a gift" feature which means one person could buy the track for multiple people to download.

nikox1 02 Jun 2010 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 499237)
I'm not sure that's strictly true, the campaign by Leeds fans recently was based around the fact that you could purchase multiple copies over a period of time I don't thikn there is any IP address tracking other than ensuring that the purchase is made in the UK. iTunes also has the "send a gift" feature which means one person could buy the track for multiple people to download.

thats correct Andy!! i spoke with itunes today, plenty of options:D
thanks

carole 03 Jun 2010 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 499026)
Twitter and Myspace are now live!

http://www.twitter.com/meatchart

http://www.myspace.com/meatchart

Follow and add us if you support the campaign :-)

Thanks for that. So how do you get added as a friend on the Myspace page?

Carole

stretch37 03 Jun 2010 00:08

Thats wicked about itunes :)

To those of you who are interested and enthused by our campaign, here's another link of interest!

I encourage you to post it on your personal blog or website, because the more links we have, the faster web crawlers will pick it up and index it! The sitemap and SEO is set up, we just need hard linkage.

http://www.meatchart.net/blog

ps...630 members and growing fast on fb :)

carole 03 Jun 2010 10:48

Thanks, looks great.

Carole

Kev 03 Jun 2010 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 499221)
Could do with Kev weighing in here with numbers and what chart position it could reach.

Out of interest, if one person downloaded the track a dozen times would it class as a dozen sales or just one because of the same IP address?

I'm trying to do as much as I can behind the scenes with Universal. :)

Ankie 03 Jun 2010 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 499221)
Out of interest, if one person downloaded the track a dozen times would it class as a dozen sales or just one because of the same IP address?

Yes, wondering about that too.
Kev, do you have any information regarding that one?

daveake 03 Jun 2010 12:10

It's got to be the number of purchases, not downloads.

Kev 03 Jun 2010 12:10

Its a bit tricky, there isn't anything to stop you ordering 1 version each day and from different retailers.
Example being - Us monday, amazon tuesday, Play wednesday, HMV thursday, us friday, Amazon saturday, Itunes sunday.

If you were to order one from each place each day then they might get thrown out... also ordering many versions from the same place on the same day could get thrown out also.

Also, orders from outside the UK won't count, but there are ways around that :)

The Flying Mouse 03 Jun 2010 18:09

:twisted: Out of interest, has anyone contacted the Jack Black fans?
THere must be a forum or facegroup group?

If so, what has the responce been?

Jayd 03 Jun 2010 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 499277)
Its a bit tricky, there isn't anything to stop you ordering 1 version each day and from different retailers.
Example being - Us monday, amazon tuesday, Play wednesday, HMV thursday, us friday, Amazon saturday, Itunes sunday.

If you were to order one from each place each day then they might get thrown out... also ordering many versions from the same place on the same day could get thrown out also.

Also, orders from outside the UK won't count, but there are ways around that :)

I think this is what I read back in December, multiple track buying does affect something, I have been trying to find it, but as yet, not found it. :D

Evil One 03 Jun 2010 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayd (Post 499316)
multiple track buying does affect something, I have been trying to find it, but as yet, not found it. :D

Your bank account? :twisted:

Pudding 03 Jun 2010 22:18

LMAO :lmao:

robgomm 04 Jun 2010 12:46

Hey guys, i've posted the campaign on my facebook and twitter pages, and i've spent a long time visting about 20 different forums that i subscribe to to try and get the word out. Not sure what else I can do?

Sue K 04 Jun 2010 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 499378)
Hey guys, i've posted the campaign on my facebook and twitter pages, and i've spent a long time visting about 20 different forums that i subscribe to to try and get the word out. Not sure what else I can do?

fine job ! ... and a big thanks to all working the project and to those carrying forth the word !

robgomm 04 Jun 2010 12:54

I'd still like to do more if I can? Just not sure what.

robgomm 04 Jun 2010 12:54

What about emailing all the national papers, maybe they will put a small acrticle on it. Anythings better than nothing right?

AndyK 04 Jun 2010 16:16

Marya Roxx joins the fan single campaign
 
I've been asked to pass the following news along

Quote:


Marya Roxx, LA based power rocker, has joined the Campaign facebook as a member.

A new website 21centuryrock.net, is now on-line aimed at the wider market of rock afficianados, and people who are disillusioned with the music business/labels.

We're still working hard to trigger the internet reaction we need to have numbers of supporters grow exponentially and fast. Numbers are steadily increasing, but the ripple effect has yet to take hold. [B]Anyone who would like to help and support this by putting in an hour hitting websites with the campaign message, please PM Melon;Netty;snider22;suzieq. That way we have most tme zones covered, and will get back to you asap. We're working on it full tilt, but the web's huge, so any help would be tremendous.[B]

We're also aiming for maximum hits on youtube, so passing this link along to contacts/forums etc would be a great help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piyrIbZu9U4


robgomm 04 Jun 2010 17:40

Just to update I have emailed the press release to 11 different national newspapers so far. Hopefully get time to do more tomorrow. I will also try to contact all the radio stations I can on the web to see if we can get a mention somewhere.

AndrewG 04 Jun 2010 21:38

Is Meat Loaf aware of this campaign?

CarylB 04 Jun 2010 22:17

Yes, he is.

Jayd 04 Jun 2010 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 499321)
Your bank account? :twisted:

:lmao:

Pudding 04 Jun 2010 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 499450)
Yes, he is.

And his thoughts are?

CarylB 04 Jun 2010 23:34

You'd need to ask him:) He knows, and he and his PA have been kept informed.

Pudding 04 Jun 2010 23:49

So you have no clue if he's for or against it?

CarylB 05 Jun 2010 00:02

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=117

Pudding 05 Jun 2010 07:07

Cheers. I don't read every single post so I missed it.

Sarge 05 Jun 2010 14:10

I read an FHM interview in which Meat states that he dislikes the fact that you can purchase individual songs from an album via download stores. So does this campaign actually promote and will he possibly benefit from something he used to criticize?

robgomm 05 Jun 2010 20:48

Yeah he dislikes it but until the rules change he's just got to accept it i'm afraid as have we all. I don't agree with it either by the way. And yes of course this campaign is promoting him because there would be no promotion at all if this campaign wasn't up and running. And Meat can only benefit from this, there are no drawbacks to this campaign.

robgomm 05 Jun 2010 20:50

On another note, I know we have the facebook group which has over 800 members now, but has someone made sure that the link to that group has been posted on all the other Meat Loaf fan groups on facebook? Because there's another 3,000+ members combined on those other groups. I'm surprised we don't have at least this number of members on our group by now.

AndrewG 05 Jun 2010 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 499554)
Yeah he dislikes it but until the rules change he's just got to accept it i'm afraid as have we all. I don't agree with it either by the way. And yes of course this campaign is promoting him because there would be no promotion at all if this campaign wasn't up and running. And Meat can only benefit from this, there are no drawbacks to this campaign.

I seriously doubt this is MORE promotion and would/will reach more people than the things the record company and Meat Loaf have done and will be doing (touring etc)...

I do see drawbacks with this campaign but if I point these out I will be shot down. Some may say rightly so I guess. :shrug:

A Slice Of English 05 Jun 2010 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 499555)
On another note, I know we have the facebook group which has over 800 members now, but has someone made sure that the link to that group has been posted on all the other Meat Loaf fan groups on facebook? Because there's another 3,000+ members combined on those other groups. I'm surprised we don't have at least this number of members on our group by now.

The discussion over how the campaign was conducted has been closed, but I would nudge you in that threads direction to have a read if you want to see what others have thought about the promotion/presentation of the campaign.

Sarge 05 Jun 2010 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 499554)
Yeah he dislikes it [...] And yes of course this campaign is promoting him because there would be no promotion at all if this campaign wasn't up and running. And Meat can only benefit from this, there are no drawbacks to this campaign.

The album in its entirety seems to be very important to Meat. He even "forced" people to listen to the whole thing. Shouldn't a single promote the album? The campaign concentrates very much on the song and the involvement of Jack Black. There are hardly references to the album.

A Slice Of English 05 Jun 2010 21:09

Better not to discuss it Sarge. The team are working so hard that they shouldn't have to deal with criticism on top of that.

Sarge 05 Jun 2010 21:13

It's not criticism, just an observation. ;)

duke knooby 06 Jun 2010 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 499559)
Shouldn't a single promote the album?

if youre going old school, and using singles as promotion for an album, then yes... but that song choice isn't a single, and i believe the campaign is just trying to get meat back into the charts... and then take any promo on for future releases or album work from there

btw, excellent point... the album should be promoted at least as much!!!

Pudding 06 Jun 2010 02:35

Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

Sue K 06 Jun 2010 03:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 499589)
Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

i voted for it ... i'm listening to it right now ... and i really like it ... i'm old school ... "it's catchy... i can chair dance to it... " ... i don't care much for Jack Black... i find that Destiny or whatever the band of his is called not my cup of tea... quite frankly Jack Black's antics on film are not my cup of tea either... a bit over the top ala Jim Carey for my taste ... but i'm aware he's popular with younger folks ... or popular period... and i think it's a good song to push to get attention ...

i like the little rap in the beginning.. i'm not a fan of rap... but that bit reminds me of a more gentler earlier old school rap sound ... along the lines of Run DMC when they got together with Aerosmith ... Walk This Way ... you know... one rapper/ singer starts and the other comes in/ talks over ... and i like the pause in Rose ... and the take off of the music...

if this forum was Bandstand i'd rate Rose 95 ... because i like the sound and can dance to it ... ;) ... here's hoping i'll be rockin' out to it when i see 'Imself in concert next month !!!

CarylB 06 Jun 2010 03:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 499589)
Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

There was a first poll here on the UK forum, then the top 4 from that were put to the vote again:
Like A Rose 37%
If It Rains 22.86%
Elvis in Vegas 21.43%
If I Can't Have You 18.57%

So it was chosen by the fans here who voted. I'd have been happy to promote any of them, but I too think Like A Rose is catchy, has a raunchy edge which broadens its appeal imo, and because it's a duet can appeal to a wider audience than Meat Loaf fans.

Now you know why two people voted for it :) Can't speak for the rest.

Caryl

Pudding 06 Jun 2010 04:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by tink (Post 499600)
if this forum was Bandstand i'd rate Rose 95 ...

What's Bandstand?

Sue K 06 Jun 2010 04:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 499616)
What's Bandstand?

a show hosted by Dick Clark back in the late 50s through ... the late 80s early 90s ? here in the States ... one of the features of the show was to play a new release and have a couple teens rate it ... it really became a bit of a satiric and catch phrase thing to say similar lines said on the show... ie ... "i give it a 75 ... it's got a good beat and i can dance to it" ... lol ...

however... lol ... i was quite sincere when i said similar about Like A Rose ! ... ;) ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bandstand

man ... lol ... the internet is great... lol ... there we go ... lol ...


Pudding 06 Jun 2010 10:30

Never watched the show, never heard of the show, so knowing Bandstand and American Bandstand are one of the same is meaningless to me :shrug: Thanks for the explanation though.

What's the realistic target for this song? Top 50?, Top 40?, Top 30?, Top 20?, Top 10?, Number #1 :wtf: :faint:

Sarge 06 Jun 2010 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke knooby (Post 499574)
but that song choice isn't a single

It is called "the fan campaign single", so I'd expect at least a few traditional single features. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke knooby (Post 499574)
i believe the campaign is just trying to get meat back into the charts... and then take any promo on for future releases or album work from there

I rather do not express my thoughts on this. I'm afraid it would depress me...

AndrewG 06 Jun 2010 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 499618)
What's the realistic target for this song? Top 50?, Top 40?, Top 30?, Top 20?, Top 10?, Number #1 :wtf: :faint:

I think number 1 would be very hard the week from the 14th considering the World Cup song and Eminem's new single are out then in the UK.

Sue K 06 Jun 2010 12:53

Happy Sunday meatie peeps ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 499618)
Never watched the show, never heard of the show, so knowing Bandstand and American Bandstand are one of the same is meaningless to me :shrug: Thanks for the explanation though.

you're welcome... and thank you actually... i enjoyed the trip down memory lane via America Bandstand's wikipedia entry ! ...

robgomm 06 Jun 2010 23:56

To be honest I don't know we'll get anywhere as we don't appear to have many members right now, hopefully it's really going to grow through this week. But i'm gonna keep on pushing anyway, it's been a fun little project for me.

I don't know how many sales you need to get into the top 40 these days? Perhaps someone could tell us who was no. 40 last week and how many they sold?


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