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New Hits Out Of Hell...
... With 2 bonus tracks...
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Is it coming out on DVD as well?
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I have no desire to rush out and buy it.
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oh go on! It's totally worth it for the 2 extra tracks! :P
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That's what always bugs me about these compilations. How hard would it have been to put a couple of rare tracks on it? Take A Number or something from the Nassau Colliseum show?
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Hardly a hit though was it?
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I wonder why anyone would want to buy it... a Meat Loaf fan will ideally have all those songs mentioned there, plus many more ofcourse. Why spend an extra 12 pounds when not really needed?
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Possibly one of the most pointless Meat Loaf releases ever (no Bat III jokes, please!), it won't even appeal to those who would buy a CD for the "new" artwork on the cover :?
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is it even worth it when you get most of those songs on the very best of meat loaf and i can't see people spending £12 just for two songs when one of those was a hit in the 90's
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it's all above trying to make a little bit more money from a compiliation, as if there aren't enough out at the minute....always a new young meat loaf fan somewhere that can be tapped up, or someone that hasn't listened to him since Bat 1
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(i'm gonna pay for my wise ass ways when she gets home :doh: ) The most interesting thing is that there is material from two record companies on the album. Is that the first time that's happened since VBO? :shock: |
yes but what i meant for that wise arse :lol: was that anything for love was a bigger hit than i'd lie for you
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It is indeed, it's strange that Sony would go to the trouble to get the 2 EMI tracks on there and then just ship it out with new artwork. They would have to pay for the 2 tracks and a percentage of each sale would go to EMI too. So yeah, it's a strange one.
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1. They are bored themselves by all those compilations that don't include anything new. 2. They've flooded the market with so many uninteresting CDs that they have to offer something that's at least a little different. 3. They've realized that customers aren't that stupid to think that Meat Loaf's career ended in 1984. :twisted: I guess paying for those two tracks won't ruin them. ;) |
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I knew you'd be reading :lol:
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When are we getting the 5 albums, OWNED BY SONY, digitally remastered and re-released? NOOO, WE'LL GET 10 MILLION COMPILATIONS BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.
Edit: OK, "Bat Out Of Hell" doesn't count because they've already done that to death. But, come on, "Dead Ringer" and "Bad Attitude" could use a good remaster. |
Dead Ringer and Bad Attitude are long overdue for remastering. In fact didn't Kasim say in his recent intervie that they'd actually recorded about 5 songs for a Bat2 back in 1979, something like that, adding those little chestnuts as a bonus for Dead Ringer would be the bogs dollocks.
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It would still be worth a listen and a selling point for the CD.
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I don't understand. What original is so diluted? The masters? What masters? "Dead Ringer" or Meat's attempt at "Bad For Good"? Jim said in an interview in 1983 that they couldn't get anything out of Meat for that album so nothing exists.
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And yet Kasim in an interview this past week said that Meat and Jim recorded about 5 songs for a Bat2 back in 1979.
Ryan do your research thoroughly ;) Pud :twisted: |
And Kasim was the co-producer and songwriter of "Bad For Good"? Jim specifically said they worked on the tracks but couldn't get anything out of Meat Loaf, which was the reason Meat Loaf did "Dead Ringer" because he was so frustrated with the other songs. It's all there in the interview where Jim talks about "The Dream Engine". Kasim may be mistaken. I definitely believe he's mistaken about the time line for "Back Into Hell". It wasn't started in 1991 because the "Hits Out Of Hell" DVD said the album was going to be released that year and Meat Loaf, himself, said they began work on the album in the 1980s.
No offense, but I'm going to stick with Meat and Jim's word on this. |
Because they never tell porkies.
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For a start Kasim has no reason to lie as it serves absolutely no purpose to. Just because Jim said he couldn't get anything out of Meat doesn't mean Meat couldn't sing at all, it means Meat probably couldn't sing the way Jim wanted him to. Yes the project got cancelled because Meat couldn't complete it, but there's absolutely no record anywhere that states Meat didn't complete any of the songs to a greater or lesser degree. Since Jim takes about 1-2 years (at best) to complete an album, and he had 2 albums with his songs on come out in 1981, logically one would assume that Jim must have started the projects around 1979, which is something Kasim mentioned that he did. I know sometimes logic fails you Ryan/Rockfenris/Madhatterster and whoever the hell you might be from one day to the next, which is probably why you use multiple aliases to try and cover up the bullshit. Pud :twisted: |
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What I think is that you don't realize how many people you've offended or hurt on whatever forum you've posted at, but this is my last word on the matter. I no longer want to continue this thread with you because I find it too negative. And for the last time, I did not come here in a disguise and I have explained all of that to the moderator I spoke with. If I was lying, I would have been banned.
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Can I suggest that you two take this off line please?
We're all fed up of seeing personal arguments spill out of threads that are actually starting to become interesting to read. The "report post" facility or the ability to PM a moderator is open to all to use, and everything reported gets looked into. Don't try and circumvent that by spouting off publicly, it really doesn't help your cause. As I said in the other thread this stops now! |
so...the new improved hits out of helll..same crappy excuse to release a compilation, different name
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At least you can see where they're coming from. These are probably his biggest selling tracks post 80's...though I also think, well include Rock N' Roll Dreams, Objects....oh look, it's 'The Very Best Of'.
Probably should have 'It's All Coming Back To Me' on there too. Weird that they must have licensed these two tracks. |
:twisted: To be fair, It's All Coming Back wasn't a massive hit, while Anything For Love and Lie For you were.
And to add All Coming Back would mean another record company wanting it's pound of flesh. |
Did anyone bother to see this thing also has MODERN GIRL added onto the set? Isn't that just another record company getting in on the rape as well?
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Modern Girl has always been in the UK release of this.
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Despite this compilation being a bucket o'shit at the very least Meat still has his name being peddled in the record shops.
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It's not a minor miracle when it's riding off the back of a Bat album, it should've been bigger. Maybe there'll be a proper 3 Bats compilation album out sometime, who knows, I won't be buying that either.
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Thanks for that. Interesting stuff.
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There was an advert on Channel Four for this album tonight, saying that it's released tomorrow.
SueW http://www.KasimInfo.com |
im surprised they actually spend money for advertising...
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well, there's hardly anything 'new' about it, is it?
I could imagine that they want to boost this (and get more money out of it, than out of all the other crappy compilations) as they already spend money for the rights on the two new tracks. |
I hope no one's gonna buy their dull compilations anymore, despite of their advertising. I'm tired of record companies trying to make a fast buck by selling old stuff again and again, without putting at least some effort into their products.
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You hear record companies bleeting on about falling profits, well I'm not surprised if they're churning out shite compilations when you can download any song you want from iTunes or wherever and make your own.
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It's being sold in Tesco. Number 17 in the charts apparently.
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I had a look at it yesterday. the extra tracks are edited versions, which is a little strange considering that all the 'original' tracks are full-length versions, and by my maths there should still be enough room on a compact disc to add the full-length versions of AFL and ILFY.
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It just occured to me that in a new collector market this would have done so much better if it was called something like...Antique Hits out of Hell...
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It's #28 this week in the official UK charts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums.shtml
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Well that's a surprise, I'd have thought it might have broke the top 100 but #28 is impressive :shock:
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Sony have given this a good TV push for fathers day and looks to have paid off. It's it's 110th week on the chart since its release and sales this week of 6,521 taking the total sales of this title to 349,882. :)
Sony's other current Meat title 'Piece Of The Action' sold another 1,183 this week retaining it's place as Meat's biggest selling title of the year. It's sold 10,919 since it's release a few weeks back. |
So if Sony can have success by recycling the same tat, then why do they not realise they could have more success by putting out something different?
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for exactly that reason...they have success with it. why bother with something different if there's always the risk of failing, when you can make money in a way a lot easier?
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That's one way of looking at it. Alternatively if instead of rehashing HOOH they had released one of the old concerts they must have lying in their vaults as 'Meat Loaf - Bat Out Of Hell Live' and marketed it for father's day then not only would they get the current sales figures, but many other Meat fans would buy it too.
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That's assuming anyone is interested in a live recording of a show so many years back, I doubt it. Unless of course it's a famous gig, like when Jonny Cash sang at Folsom Prison, or Elvis comeback shows etc etc etc
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[QUOTE Pudding]That's assuming anyone is interested in a live recording of a show so many years back, I doubt it.
only slightly related... but i'm interested to know what happened to the 4 hours worth of live material meat had recorded and thought would be a possible 4cd live album release back in 95 ish... almost certainly became live around the world... but what was on the other 2 hours worth of material????? |
If I had to guess then I would say the rest of the Hudson Theater and Beacon Theater shows and whatever else was recorded from Amsterdam, Germany and Virginia.
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well, they did leave out anything after Bat 2, so all the songs performed from from WTTN would have probably been there, and other songs like Masculine and Everything Louder would have probably been put on as well.
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If a live CD was released along with a DVD like the live from Rockpalast gig, then I can see that being a big seller.
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Sounds good to me.
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now we just have to convince the record companies lol
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its at no. 25 in the midweeks, so still selling well
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its currently 24 in the midweeks
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What kind of Crap did they put out now. If people stop buying, they will stop puting this stuff out. It drives me crazy.
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1978 Rockplast is in the works . Very Funny.
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They are crystal. Also an interview is included.
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That's awesome, thanks Meat.
Been putting off getting this as I thought it was the same as what I have with the two songs added on the existing one. |
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Because if you read Meat's post above mine he confirms there's an interview on it and plus when I got that I was a new fan collecting what I could, so when I had got everything I could from my local HMV that's when I then got the rest on-line. Think when I got HOH I didn't own BA and all that so that's why it's in my possession...
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No you daft mare, he's confirming that there's going to be the Rockpalast gig put to DVD with an added interview.
Please keep up. |
Damn, I need to type faster, Sarge did 2 posts to my 1 in the same amount of time.
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to be honest its not up to Meat to stop selling the compilations its up to the people who are selling and making them, meat can't be held responseable for selling compilations. i think the people who are selling the compilations are just doing it so they can get money out of people it just show how people really are arsehols
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You can't beat a robot ... ;-) |
Just our of curosity... what exactly is 1978 Rockplast??
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Rockpalast a series of televised rock concerts in Germany. In 1978, Meat Loaf did a show in Offenbach that was recorded for that series.
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Really good to hear from Meat again on here after so long away though isnt it |
hits out of hell was number 19 as of yesterday! its doing really well:D
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Can't say I'm glad about this, it will probably encourage Sony to release more boring compilations. :roll:
LOL, I just discovered that you can pre-order it on amazon.de for € 40,99! :yikes: Now that's a bargain. |
while I think it's clearly another useless compilation, this new release shows one thing:
There's still a big demand for Meat Loaf records out there. And I'm not talking about the die hard fans, as we clearly wouldnt rush to the shops and buy the 100th version of the same compilation. I dont think it happens every day that a best of album (of an "oldtimer" ;)) (with nearly no marketing efforts!) goes that high up in the charts. |
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