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Elijah's way 17 Dec 2008 04:45

music video's
 
What is everyone's favorite Meat Loaf music video from the 70's?:??:

Mine would be bat out of hell.:D

Evil One 17 Dec 2008 12:11

I think they're all pretty rubbish to be honest.

Wario 17 Dec 2008 12:24

70's: Took the Words
80's: Modern Girl
90's: Not a dry eye
2000's: Did I Say that?

carole 17 Dec 2008 13:18

I really love the clip from Bat Out Of Hell, haven't seen any from the 80's, the 90's would be a ~~~~ up of Anything For Love and I'd Lie For You, and recently love Couldn't Have Said It Better and It's All Coming Back To Me Now.

Carole

Evil One 17 Dec 2008 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 450538)
70's: Took the Words
80's: Modern Girl
90's: Not a dry eye
2000's: Did I Say that?

You have some bizarre tastes. Not A Dry Eye over Anything For Love?

Elijah's way 18 Dec 2008 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHStoned (Post 450508)
What is everyone's favorite Meat Loaf music video from the 70's?:??:

Mine would be bat out of hell.:D

80's Surf's up
90's Objects in the rear view mirror
2000's It' all coming back

Wario 18 Dec 2008 10:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 450548)
You have some bizarre tastes. Not A Dry Eye over Anything For Love?

Yes, I adore Dry Eye's music video. AFL's video's good, but the Beauty & The Beast theme is so common

belladonna-took 18 Dec 2008 12:48

The vids Meat shot for Bat 1
More than You Deserve
Surfs Up
Bad Attitude Live
Objects

Jayd 18 Dec 2008 22:42

Man Of Steel :lol:

MeatGrl1 18 Dec 2008 22:53

He never shot any videos in the 70's, there were the live mimed things from 78 I think from the Hits Out Of Hell compelation but the rest I am pretty sure were early 80's onwards....
Unless your including his role of Eddie in 1975's cult classic The Rocky Horror Picture Show and even that was the same as the film.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

mib 18 Dec 2008 23:13

I like the movie type videos,not the one's filmed on a stage,that seems an easy option for me.
M.I.B

Wario 19 Dec 2008 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 450713)
He never shot any videos in the 70's, there were the live mimed things from 78 I think from the Hits Out Of Hell compelation but the rest I am pretty sure were early 80's onwards....
Unless your including his role of Eddie in 1975's cult classic The Rocky Horror Picture Show and even that was the same as the film.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

your totally right

Just so disgusted they omit the "where!" at the beginning of HP on the soundtrack

RadioMaster 19 Dec 2008 08:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 450713)
He never shot any videos in the 70's, there were the live mimed things from 78 I think from the Hits Out Of Hell compelation but the rest I am pretty sure were early 80's onwards....
Unless your including his role of Eddie in 1975's cult classic The Rocky Horror Picture Show and even that was the same as the film.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

78 wasnt in the 70's? :shock:
gotta check my history books :sherlock:

You dont really think those videos were shot for Hits out of Hell, do you? besides that one came out in 85 i think.

MeatGrl1 19 Dec 2008 11:08

1984 ;)

allrevvedup 19 Dec 2008 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 450713)
He never shot any videos in the 70's, there were the live mimed things from 78

I would consider that to be a video...it's a promo either way.

Most of the early music videos were like that

belladonna-took 19 Dec 2008 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by allrevvedup (Post 450761)
I would consider that to be a video...it's a promo either way.

Most of the early music videos were like that

I certainly think the BOOH videos count....and as you say AllRevvedUp, all videos were like that then, they were pretty rare, and Meat and Queen were some of the first artists to realise the potential of music videos.

carole 20 Dec 2008 06:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayd (Post 450711)
Man Of Steel :lol:


I haven't seen a video for Man Of Steel.

Carole

Wario 20 Dec 2008 06:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 450760)
1984 ;)

Wasn't modern girl part of the UK HOOH CD?

RadioMaster 20 Dec 2008 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by carole (Post 450890)
I haven't seen a video for Man Of Steel.

Carole

feel lucky lol

AndyK 20 Dec 2008 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 450891)
Wasn't modern girl part of the UK HOOH CD?

Yep.

HooH was relased by Epic/Cleveland to cash in shortly after Bad Attitude came out on Arista. Epic/Cleveland probably wouldn't stretch to licensing the Modern Girl video to include it on the HooH video release.

Wario 20 Dec 2008 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 450909)
Yep.

HooH was relased by Epic/Cleveland to cash in shortly after Bad Attitude came out on Arista. Epic/Cleveland probably wouldn't stretch to licensing the Modern Girl video to include it on the HooH video release.

Another reason Artists and songwriters should hold the rights to the songs not the record companies. But at least theres a bunch of DVD quality MG Videos floating around :D

MeatGrl1 20 Dec 2008 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 450909)
Yep.

HooH was relased by Epic/Cleveland to cash in shortly after Bad Attitude came out on Arista. Epic/Cleveland probably wouldn't stretch to licensing the Modern Girl video to include it on the HooH video release.

Also correct me if I'm wrong here but I have seen an interview from 1998 where he talks about this and he said that he hated this album and tried everything to get it off the shelves as he had no input into it and that it was just 'thrown together' by the record company !

Sarge 20 Dec 2008 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by carole (Post 450890)
I haven't seen a video for Man Of Steel.

Carole

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 450896)
feel lucky lol

:lawl: The video is unintentionally comical, probably because it does not match the song. It seems as if they recycled some elements for the The Monster Is Loose video.

MeatGrl1 20 Dec 2008 21:59

I hate both these videos... So probably and it annoys me that they show for of TMIL video than the live performance on 3 Bats :( !

RadioMaster 20 Dec 2008 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 450939)
Also correct me if I'm wrong here but I have seen an interview from 1998 where he talks about this and he said that he hated this album and tried everything to get it off the shelves as he had no input into it and that it was just 'thrown together' by the record company !

MATLAF

MeatGrl1 20 Dec 2008 22:11

That's one of them RJ but I'm more than certain it was Hits he was talking about, it's on old computer so can't confirm it exactly.

carole 20 Dec 2008 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 450939)
Also correct me if I'm wrong here but I have seen an interview from 1998 where he talks about this and he said that he hated this album and tried everything to get it off the shelves as he had no input into it and that it was just 'thrown together' by the record company !

Yeah I saw that interview too, it was around the time the Very Best Of came out and he was promoting it and the interviewer asked about all the best of's that were out there and what was different about this one, and he said that about the record companies and that he put this one out so he could actually be involved in it. I felt guilty for all those compilations I've bought not realising that about them.

Carole

carole 20 Dec 2008 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 450942)
I hate both these videos... So probably and it annoys me that they show for of TMIL video than the live performance on 3 Bats :( !

Yeah I agree, I would much prefer to be looking at Meat and the band than those silly cartoon characters!!!!! I really don't get that.

Carole

AndyK 20 Dec 2008 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 450939)
Also correct me if I'm wrong here but I have seen an interview from 1998 where he talks about this and he said that he hated this album and tried everything to get it off the shelves as he had no input into it and that it was just 'thrown together' by the record company !

Meat had nothing to do at all with Hits Out Of Hell, and he certainly wasn't happy with it. Somewhere on this forum is the full story of how I met Meat after one of the shows on the Bad Attitude tour when there had been a large promo display for HooH in the foyer of the venue, which Meat's manager had torn down and I subsequently got Meat to sign part of.

duke knooby 21 Dec 2008 02:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 450948)
Meat had nothing to do at all with Hits Out Of Hell, and he certainly wasn't happy with it.

thats not strictly speaking true... i'm pretty sure he sang the songs :-P

why would he not be happy with it?? they are professionally done, to a high standard.. his reputation is not only intact, but given to a larger audience

maybe he didn't make any money from it, i dunno

AndyK 21 Dec 2008 04:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke knooby (Post 450971)

maybe he didn't make any money from it, i dunno


I think that's the crux of it ... HooH was released by Clevelnad/Epic after Meat had finished his contract`with them, and at the time when he was involved in some of the many legal battles with the record company for royalties ...

MeatGrl1 21 Dec 2008 04:05

That explains alot, I'd be pi$$ed off too !!

Thanks Andy :up:.

Jayd 21 Dec 2008 10:46

I bet he won't be pis**d off nowadasy, when those royalty checks drop through his letterbox (or whatever Americans have for mail :lol:).

Wario 21 Dec 2008 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayd (Post 450982)
I bet he won't be pis**d off nowadasy, when those royalty checks drop through his letterbox (or whatever Americans have for mail :lol:).

I call mine a bumpershoot :D

allrevvedup 22 Dec 2008 21:29

is it a fun magical land that you live in?:lol:

Wario 23 Dec 2008 02:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by allrevvedup (Post 451149)
is it a fun magical land that you live in?:lol:

It's a land alright. But if you consider Peanut Butter Twix magic, god bless ya!

:lol:

MeatGrl1 23 Dec 2008 02:40

:wtf:...

mszee 23 Dec 2008 03:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayd (Post 450982)
I bet he won't be pis**d off nowadasy, when those royalty checks drop through his letterbox (or whatever Americans have for mail :lol:).

Made me laugh and laugh...even Wario's answer made sense in view of this...lol...

allrevvedup 23 Dec 2008 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf (Post 451214)
It's a land alright. But if you consider Peanut Butter Twix magic, god bless ya!

:lol:

You need to reduce your sugar intake:-)

Jayd 23 Dec 2008 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 451230)
Made me laugh and laugh...even Wario's answer made sense in view of this...lol...

From what I see you all have those bird boxes outside your houses with a little flag :lol:. It's bad enough here in the UK to trust even Royal mail to not steal your mail, suppose you would have to really trust people not to steal mail from your bumpershoots :lol:I wonder if Meat does pull out his nice royalty cheques from his bumpershoot, or maybe somewhere more secure I think. :D

mszee 23 Dec 2008 16:13

I have a regular mailbox...but if I get packages...they leave them on the stairs or front porch...never missed one...and I don't live in a gated community like Meat must be...I am sure his maid accepts his mail directly...I am sure he doesn't live by the side of the road either...lol...

You've watched too many westerns I think...lol...

allrevvedup 23 Dec 2008 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 451265)
and I don't live in a gated community like Meat must be.....

yeah but the moat and drawbridge makes it a little tough to get into your house :D

mszee 23 Dec 2008 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by allrevvedup (Post 451267)
yeah but the moat and drawbridge makes it a little tough to get into your house :D

Ummm...then you, my dear...possess super human powers...

allrevvedup 23 Dec 2008 19:54

I used to be a man of steel...

mszee 24 Dec 2008 01:39

you used to be...

Wario 24 Dec 2008 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 451308)
you used to be...

If it means anything I used to be a beaver but got turned via gram cracker

PS: MOS's music video was weird as hell!

allrevvedup 24 Dec 2008 14:56

the drugs must've been mighty...and i agree the Man of Steel video was weird, rubbish and cheap...which i think influenced the record company

Sarge 24 Dec 2008 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by allrevvedup (Post 451366)
and i agree the Man of Steel video was weird, rubbish and cheap

Seems to be en vogue to make videos like that these days... :( Still haven't gotten over the fact how they wasted The Monster Is Loose... and the video does not do the song justice at all.

MeatGrl1 28 Dec 2008 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by allrevvedup (Post 451366)
the drugs must've been mighty...and i agree the Man of Steel video was weird, rubbish and cheap...which i think influenced the record company

I never like animated videos but that just totally took the cake, I mean it didn't fit the song and I also agree that it looked rushed, cheap and tacky, hate to say it but I rate TMIL video the same and it annoys me no end that we get more of that in the 3 Bats Live than the live footage !!!!!

The Flying Mouse 29 Dec 2008 13:13

:twisted: Man f Steel - crap :down: .
Monster's Loose - fecking awesome 8) .

Blackkat13 01 Jan 2009 03:44

70's Paradise
80's Surf's Up or I'll kill you if you don't come back (think vid was 80's)
90's Anything 4 love
00's Couldn't have said it better

Devil's Son 10 Jan 2009 22:53

70's:wtf:
the 90's were great and now .... I would say they missed some chances with The Monster and Blind as a Bat, just thought.

Sarge 11 Jan 2009 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grasshopper (Post 453052)
70's:wtf:
the 90's were great and now ....

In the 1990s they were still brave enough to select such long songs like Anything and Objects as singles and record companies were still willing to spend large ammounts of money on music videos. The videos he made then where like movies, I especially like the Indiana Jones and James Bond references in I'd Lie For You. (I also loved the Hitchcock-like scenes in the Getting Away With Murder video although I didn't like the sound and fashion of the 1980s.)

I think it was stupid to choose IACBTMN as the first Bat III single. Many people thought he just recycled a Celine Dion song and associating Meat Loaf with her can only be disadvantageous. Let alone that Dion's version is better. (I have to say that although I don't like Celine Dion.) The video was okay, yet the setting reminded me too much of Anything and Dion's video. I think they just wanted to play it safe since her version was a hit. That's why I can at least understand why that song became a single but I wonder what the hell came over them when releasing the second single. Cry Over Me is an average, not very exciting song, in my opinion. (Blind As A Bat is much better!) The video was quite uninspired and looked cheap. I believe it doesn't necessarily require much money to make an interesting video as long as you have some good ideas. I'm very disappointed by the song as well as by the video.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grasshopper (Post 453052)
I would say they missed some chances with The Monster and Blind as a Bat, just thought.

It's a shame how they treated these great songs. :(

RadioMaster 11 Jan 2009 17:32

i can imagine the single choice was down to contracts made between the people responsible.
IACBTMN was a huge popularity boost for Ms. Raven and that incidently short before her debut album came out. And incidently Mr. Child was the producer on that one as well. I can see how they tried to attract a younger audience by combining a 'hip' new act with the rock veteran Meat Loaf. So getting her on board without having her single released wouldnt really help her career anything I suppose.

It's probably been similar with COM. I assume they only got Diane Warren (a bigger name than Desmond Child) on board by guaranteeing that her song will be released as single. And when they suddenly decided to release only two singles they had to scrap BAAB at the last minute and release com so they wouldnt break the contract with Ms. Warren.

All non qualified assumptions here though...

Sarge 11 Jan 2009 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453241)
IACBTMN was a huge popularity boost for Ms. Raven and that incidently short before her debut album came out.

Of course it was supposed to create some kind of synergy. It surely helped IACBTMN climbing to the top of the Norwegian charts.

As far as I remember, Marion Raven's first solo album was released one year before Bat III and sold quite well. I doubt that her collaboration with Meat Loaf caused a "huge popularity boost" neither for her nor for Meat Loaf. Do you know anybody who became a Meat Loaf fan because of Miss Raven or vice versa?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453241)
And incidently Mr. Child was the producer on that one as well.

It sometimes appeared to me as if Bat III was a Desmond Child album with Meat Loaf's vocals on it. :mad: I hope when the next album comes out, Meat Loaf will be more in the limelight again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453241)
I can see how they tried to attract a younger audience by combining a 'hip' new act with the rock veteran Meat Loaf.

Doesn't that imply that some people think that Meat Loaf is not able to attract an audience by himself anymore?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453241)
I assume they only got Diane Warren (a bigger name than Desmond Child) on board by guaranteeing that her song will be released as single.

Diane Warren has written much better songs than that and in case there really was an agreement like that they should have urged her to provide better material. ;)

RadioMaster 11 Jan 2009 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 453263)
Do you know anybody who became a Meat Loaf fan because of Miss Raven or vice versa?

well, there's certainly a number of Meat Loaf fans who got attracted to her through Bat 3. I've seen her perform live in 07, together with two unknown newcomers. The vast majority of the audience came because of her, and I dont think they would have come without IACBTMN.

Quote:

Doesn't that imply that some people think that Meat Loaf is not able to attract an audience by himself anymore?

definitely not in a certain age group, that buys most of the albums.
Quote:

Diane Warren has written much better songs than that and in case there really was an agreement like that they should have urged her to provide better material. ;)
It's funny, even Meat himself said in a radio interview in summer 06 that he thought COM wasnt a good song. "It wasnt very emotional when I got it, but I made it sound emotional" or something like that. I hardly doubt he would have made such a remark if he had planned to release the song as a single.

Sarge 11 Jan 2009 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453274)
well, there's certainly a number of Meat Loaf fans who got attracted to her through Bat 3.

Attracted in which way? :twisted: ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453274)
The vast majority of the audience came because of her, and I dont think they would have come without IACBTMN.

And I'm sure all those people bought her records and the M2M ones, too. :roll: Have you become a "real", loyal fan and have you bought any of her CDs and will you do so in the future?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453274)
definitely not in a certain age group, that buys most of the albums.

If an album is good, it will attract an audience, independent of any age groups. You're probably too young to remember what happened when Bat II came out. :twisted: That was when Techno was "hip" but I remember that almost all my school mates owned that CD and loved it, no matter what their actual preferences regarding music were.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453274)
It's funny, even Meat himself said in a radio interview in summer 06 that he thought COM wasnt a good song.

So why the hell did he let them release it? Doesn't he take his own work seriously? Doesn't he have a say?

RadioMaster 11 Jan 2009 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 453304)
And I'm sure all those people bought her records and the M2M ones, too. :roll: Have you become a "real", loyal fan and have you bought any of her CDs and will you do so in the future?

subsequently, yes. They wont all run to the next store, but it's the best way to build a fan base. She was completely unknown and had some respectable radio airtime with IACBTMN. So people who know her through Meat are more likely to buy her albums than people who dont know her at all.
Quote:

If an album is good, it will attract an audience, independent of any age groups.
that may be, but thats apparently not what the record companies are thinking.
Or more likely: They didnt trust Bat3 to be a good album that could do that and so they needed another way to attract the record-buying-public.

Sarge 11 Jan 2009 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453311)
So people who know her through Meat are more likely to buy her albums than people who dont know her at all.

I agree, yet I don't believe that it made her popular enough to fill bigger venues in Germany, for example. I suspect it's a short-term benefit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 453311)
that may be, but thats apparently not what the record companies are thinking.

That's one of the factors explaining the crisis of the music industry. They think like accountants, they apparently hardly know anything about music and how it works.

The Flying Mouse 11 Jan 2009 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 453313)
I agree, yet I don't believe that it made her popular enough to fill bigger venues in Germany, for example. I suspect it's a short-term benefit.

:twisted: Marion was on work experience :shrug:
OK, she was never going to be a big star off singing one song with Meat, but by singing the leading duet on the album (not to mention the first single) it gave her a taste of getting involved with promo and got to see what it was like talking to the press.
When she releases her own stuff and holds her own events, the lessons she learned from working with Meat will give her a big advantage over someone 100% new to the promo game.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 453313)
That's one of the factors explaining the crisis of the music industry. They think like accountants, they apparently hardly know anything about music and how it works.

Meat said something like that in To Hell & Back.
He mentions going to see a record company exec who till a week earlier had been in charge of the branch of the parent company that manufactured and sold fridge freezers.
Where the music industry used to be made up of people who had a passion for music, it's now run by suits.

Look at Simon Cowell.
The dude knows nothing about great music, yet he has a good brain for business, and he knows what the masses want.

mszee 11 Jan 2009 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 453313)
I agree, yet I don't believe that it made her popular enough to fill bigger venues in Germany, for example. I suspect it's a short-term benefit.



Would have probably worked if she was any better...worked for Dido...Eminem actually brought her to America and made her popular just by using refrain to her song in his...

Devil's Son 13 Jan 2009 21:43

seems that child get her where he wants her .... and @ sarge: yes it is a shame how they waste the songs :(

Kev 04 Feb 2009 15:53

Everything Louder Than Everything Else :)

rocketwaveuk 22 Feb 2009 19:00

best video depends on my mood but if patti is on it then its a bonus , they go together so well , dont know any that i do not like.


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