Have to admit I was really looking forward to seeing Tim Curry in Spamalot but I thought it was pretty unfunny. Parts of the ballad-y song were clever, but the camelot song where the lady on the lake just made stupid noises to show off her incredible vocal range were...childish. But Meat and Take That boht stole the show for me. BAAB was amazing and I can't wait to hear it live next year if he sings it. Never had high opinions of Jamelia but she did well...Meat, thank you for an amazing performance.

Loved Meats performance last night on RVP. Absolutely Fantastic! :D
Jamelia was good too, although she did miss her line on the bar she was still great!

Nice one Meat!

Fantastic perfomance of the two songs.
Thanks Meat for that.:-P

Eeeeeerm, i'm sorry but I was actually replying to Choccybat's statement of 'they were definitely having a light hearted poke at meat'!!!

I really enjoyed watching Meat last night. Thought he performed really well.
BAAB was just simply amazing.
well done Meat!xx

Thought it was not a bad performance at all.

Blind was energetically performed (my friends who I was watching with didn't realised it was on tape.

Lets not blame anyone for the bit in Dead Ringer...great to hear that song live.

meat loaf came in early after the interlude, but they both coverd it well. It was a good perfomrance frm Meat Loaf. jemila looked scared lol

I'm disagreeing.

I don't think meat can still do it live to be honest :o(

That doesn't mean I'm gonna enjoy seeing him any less next year.

Just listening to some old live stuff and his voice was fantastic then!

Now, I dunno, I've only really seen live stuff from my first CHSIB tour show and its just nowhere near as good as it used to be.

The RAH clips i've seen sound meh.

I did enjoy the US stuff where meat is out in the cold and the Batman car!

Last night, meats performance was fantastic until the mic was turned on.

Still, great to see him and enjoyed it :) was worth sitting through the crap for!

Kev,

If you're limiting your opinion to some dodgy clips you've seen on YouTube, which seems to be the implication from what I read. Then I do think you're perhaps a little off the mark.

Of course Meats voice has changed since the Bat I days, and in fact it's changed every tour ever since - that age think affects us all in one way or another. Show me another artist who's voice hasn't changed over the years? (Jagger, Springsteen, Bono, even Robbie Williams fpr example!).

I saw Meat at Mannheim, RAH, NYC and Toronto, and live in person he sounded a million times better tahn he does on any of those YouTube clips recorded on camera's with minute microphones which don't have the raneg to decently record a live concert.

At many of the shows I saw in the autumn I was lucky enough to be close enough to able to hear Meat sing straight from his mouth without the aid of amplification ... through many of the songs that many people have slated the clips of ... take it from me that he can still cut it! Anyway this isn't the thread for that discussion really is it?

To see Meat on something that is regarded by the establishment as one of the highlights of the TV entertainment year was a treat indeed, and as you say worth waiting through the crap for! The RVP has regularly attracted a large viewing audience, and I'd imagine last night was no different, so in terms of exposure alone it's good news!

My opinion isn't based on the RAH clips, I simply said they were 'meh' and that will be for the reasons you mentioned.

I've only seen meat live twice and enjoyed both times so much its untrue. It doesn't matter if his voice wasn't that good (Both shows got slated in record collector), just being there made up for it. And you know if it's a lil off, its not cos Meat can't be arsed and we know he give it his all every show.

I was simply saying that in my opinion I don't think Meat has it live anymore and we seem to be forever making excuses. Both radio 2 sessions (03 & 06), the lottery (03), Party In The Park (03), American Idol (06) and others which don't spring to mind. They were all very average - shockingly poor.

Go back to 98 when Meat was pushing VBO/Storytellers and his voice was fantastic. I know thats 8 years ago now and time takes it's toll, etc. and its understandable, the man is almost 60 and still trying his best to belt out songs which most people half his age wouldn't be able to do.

As I was discussing the events of last night, I think it is on topic and relevent to this discussion. What wouldn't be is if the Army jump in with their 'Meat was great', 'Best he's ever done', 'CHSIB' etc etc

I enjoyed it, I already said that. I like the fact he mimed (you could see he was actually singing his arse off, even if the mic wasn't on at that point) too, because I could have seen people being put off if meat did it live and it wasn't too good. Also, of course it was exposure and they put Meat over big time (even if Peter and Jordan were shite at introducing him).

I thought they weren't too bad. Obviously they have a brain of a small chicken but at least they seem happy and come across as quite positive individuals since they got hooked up.

If, as you say, Meat can't do it live I really can't understand why you'd want to see him live, guess we've got some negative reviews to look forward to come next May then (you already got them written?). I've been seeing Meat live since '84, his voice has changed without a doubt and I for one think it's better, I've just received a cd of Meat live in '78 and it's not a patch on his singing at the RAH (I was there and not watching some dodgy clips - it was an amazing concert in everyway including his voice, Objects was incredible).

"Until the mike was turned on"?? That's just an insult - a cheap shot that is becoming all to common around here. You want me to take you seriously, try constructive instead of destructive.

What he said still applies ... this isn't the time or the place for that discussion please!

:roll: I fail to see how it was an insult. Meat's performance was different after the mic came on and you could clearly tell the difference. If I'd have said 'Until the mic came on, and then he was shit' then I'd agree with you.

There is no such thing as being constructive here.

Why go and see Meat? Cos like I said, even if it isn't the best singing in the world it's still Meat Loaf live! Its not just a guy singing, its a whole show. You're still going to go home thinking, ****ing hell, I just saw Meat Loaf.

And who knows, this might very well be the last time, so why would I not want to go.

You're right about his voice, in the 70's - 80's his voice was raw. 90's it was pretty much perfect. Now, I dunno, its down to your own views. I'm poss wanting to hear Meat as he was, but thats just me. I don't think anyone can knock his vocals on the album though, maybe his best apart from Bat 2. A lil off topic though.

Lets not turn this into a 'someone disagrees with us so we'lll post and moan about that'. Its now a topic of peoples thoughts of last night I believe?:roll:

Having watched Meat's performance last night I thought it was good overall. For 99% of Blind As A Bat you couldn't tell that he was miming it, basically cause he wasn't he was singing with the mic off and then there were a few bum notes when they switched the mic on...he finished the song a different way, tried something new maybe, and it didn't come off as well as the rest of the song did.

Dead Ringer for Love was decent, my brother said during it that it was the best he's heard Meat sing live in a few years...

Monstro what's wrong with ICwuke's statement? If he didn't like the live part of the performance so what? It's not an insult to say that. Is it an insult to a chef if you don't like the meal he's cooked? no. If you went into that same chef's kitchen, gave him a torrent of abuse and called him all the names under the sun then yes that is an insult and uncalled for cause you're attacking his character not his ability as a chef.

ICwuke didn't like Meat's live vocals at the end of the song...fair enough...i didn't think the live vocals were that hot either, but the overall image was good and that is Meat Loaf. He's not the best singer in the world (i don't know who is) but he's a damn fine performer and that i think is what ICwuke is trying to say.

'guess we've got some negative reviews to look forward to come next May then (you already got them written?). '

That sounds more like a cheap shot to me or have you already got your reviews for next may written where everything in the show was perfect?

If i want to hear pitch perfect vocals, which i don't, i'll go listen to a boy or girlband with no soul and hardly any emotion. If i want to see and hear a performer putting everything into his performance then I'll go see the likes of Meat Loaf.

At the same time i've seen the good and bad in terms of his vocals. He's human, he's not perfect...like some of you seem to think he is.

I am very reassured that I am not the only one on this site that feels exactly the same way as Kev. I also am looking forward to seeing Meat in May because he, and the band, and the backing singers put on a fantastic show. If I want to hear a great voice I listen to his cds. I felt last night that DR did him no favours as did (sorry to harp back on it) the Ken Bruce farce. Live with HIS band, an audience joining in enthusiastically yes, no leaping about audience, non of his own musicians about him then imho it is a huge nono. All day I have had people that watched him last night make anti remarks
that they cant understand why I enthuse about him and I dont think he deserves that. No doubt there are some on this site that will think I have committed a grave offence by writing this but I feel a true fan should deal in constructive criticism and I do not believe anything I or Kev have written is insulting to Meat and I trust in the highly unlikely event of him reading this he would not take it as such, because it certainly isnt intended to be.

well there's at least 3 of us!

Poor man. Of all the people that could have introduced him, it fell to Peter and Katie!:shock: :roll:
Still, was nice to hear him being mentioned within the first 20 seconds of the intro by Natasha Kaplinsky, and seeing him in such a popular event. :D Thoroughly enjoyed his performance, although don't think Jamelia's voice was quite strong enough, she sounded airy, if you know what I mean. You probably don't but never mind!:lol:
With the Spamalot thing, I only saw it as poking fun at musicals in general, but now you mention the Meat thing!:lol:

Just realised with horror last night: Peter and Katie is one letter away from being my parents' names!:shock: :faint: :panic:

EDIT: by the way, who was that youngish comedian with the dark hair in the suit who came out after the Iranian guy with the different walks? He actually made me laugh!:lmao: Only other stand ups to do that were Jasper Carrot and Billy Connelly.:lol:

:angry: :bicker: :rly: :bicker: :angry:

OK Kevin,
Though I respect this as your opinion please keep this to yourself. Meat doesn't need to read this and think if the shoe was on the other foot would you like that said about you? At a guess NO!
I love listening to Meat Live from 1978 or now and I can vouch for the fact that Meat was fantastic at the RAH and believe me alot of people here attened that show and can back that up. This post angered me I am not going to pretend it didn't!

Enough.