Maybe you'd be less surprised if you realized that not everybody is like you in this respect. ;)

I'm not overly excited about this. I like the music but the way Meat Loaf sounds on stage these days is not my cup of tea :( - overdubbed or not overdubbed, echo or no echo. Mind you, I'm not saying it's bad, I just don't like his current style of singing when it comes to concerts. (Just in case someone who can't differentiate between a judgement and a personal opinion wants to start another argument.)

London Calling. Very first song. My God. That one was in desperate need of an overdub :|

To all of you saying it wasn't overdubbed. Took ages to find, but I KNEW he said he was re-recording parts a while back ;)

from http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthr...592#post555592

That said, this was a while ago and things might have changed since then, AND only 20% redone isn't a hell of a lot. So even if it was overdubbed, the vast majority of it was live.

From the sound of it, part of that 20% is in Bat. There's bits here and there, but what the hell is that "note" Meat "sings" at the end of the piano solo in the intro? The high YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!? :shock: I am NOT digging for it again, but he also said that Hot Patootie and Break It were shaky somewhere along the line. So they might have been overdubbed in parts, too. Either way, it's not a big deal. Sounds great, and that's all that matters :)

:cheers:

I'm not a fan of those 3 or 4 random screams they put in there they sound fake and really don't sounds good in the context of the song

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OMG! We are going round in circles here people.

No - not everyone is going to agree what we have seen via Youtube and heard via iTunes (and other sites/programs) is "fantastic" "spectacular" "bad" "sick" or any other adjective in the thesaurus. There are people who will like the product and people who will not like the product. It is art; therefore, subjective - up to the consumer's taste. I have said it before and will say it again....this is just like politics people....it is fun to discuss, but until you see passed your own ego and realize there are people with differing opinions out there, you will just be going round in circles.

I'd say appreciate or ridicule for what it is, respect the opinions of other posters, carry on intelligent conversation - however, this constant "my way or the highway" type of discourse will only lead this topic to the lock box like so many other conversations have gone before. Remember, there are free thinking people behind each post on this board - you cannot control their thoughts/opinions, the same as they cannot control yours.

Now...anyone have anything NEW to add to the conversation?

I have listened to the song clips many times, and I think the vocals are great.

I am kind of confused about the video edit. Ginny only performed in a few shows, but she appears in more camera frames than any of the other band members (and some of the band have been with Meat for a decade or even 2 decades).

I watched the 5 minute trailer, the EPK as well as Bat Out Of Hell and don't think that the camera focuses more on her than on other members. When you hear a distinctive guitar or drum sound, there are close-ups of Paul or John (for example) and when you hear the violin, you get to see Ginny. What's wrong with that? It's good editing, in my opinion. And why does it matter how long someone has been in the band? The most important thing is that someone does a good job. I don't see any reasons for jealousy.

Sometimes the camera misses the real action on stage, like in LA when they break away to the audience with their arms folded because they don't know the song. Danny didn't get many shots. Many times Patti was blocked in the shot by Randy. Some of the camera angles seemed odd to me, just my opinion. I'm sure it will be fine when we see the entire final product.

You might have a point here but I fail to realize how this leads to Ginny getting more attention than the other band members.

I think it's not that easy to capture and show everything that's going on on stage and everybody have their own idea of what "the real action" is. It doesn't look too bad to me so far, the only thing that bothers me is the blue light. It's just used too much for my liking.

I think they captured the band on their instruments, but many times I can hear Patti's voice and they miss a shot of her or she's blocked in the shot. I'm sure it is difficult to capture everything on stage. With 15 cameras, I'm not sure why they included some of the distant shots or shots from behind where you can't really see what's happening.

Regardless, I'm going to enjoy the dvd when it's released. Like Dave said, it's all just opinion and a matter of taste. No one is right or wrong.