I think the point is that they tag along on a current tour and record shows from it. Though if Meat were to organize a release of rare shows from his backlog (as he has apparently recorded every show since 1985 for his personal collection) through Concert Live, that would be nice as well.

H'e not recorded anything through Concert Live to the bets of my knowledge ... a recording taken from the sound desk straight to CD is not necessarily a good enough quality recording for general release ... as we saw on In Search Of Pradise Meat uses the show recordings to review the previous show and to see how it can be improved while preparing for the next show.

No, Meat and Concert Live haven't worked together before. The wheels are in motion though so we'll see if it gets off the ground.

It would be nice but i just can't see Meat agreeing to this, i can't see him allowing a recording of a show to be sold before he has checked it first

maybe they might come to some arrangement but I see what where your coming from djfierce - I think he would want to check it out first but then again, he didn't with the CD that was produced from the Bat2 tour or did he?

There's no way he'd release anything he hadn't listened to, and I doubt he'd agree to their sale even if he had heard them given there's no time for editing...

well then it would be a recording of the whole show... what you heard at the show is what you'll hear on the CD :-). You'd be reliving the same show over and over again... how cool would that be??

For us, very. But take the second night at MEN last May where the opening for Blind As A Bat was messed up twice and had to be restarted - you think Meat would be happy for a mistake like that to be recorded and sent out on CD for people to repeatedly listen to?!

For me, that is the reason why I expect this probably won't happen. Meat seems very critical about his own performances, and I can't imagine him releasing a string of concerts 'as is'.

I pretty much agree, but you have to see that this recording wouldnt be released to the general public but only the people whove been to the show/heard the original live, so it wouldnt influence anyone who hasnt heard it already.
If Meat himself sees it like that is another question (and i doubt it)

The shows not being on general release would limit the audience that heard any mistakes, but living in the age that we do of burning our own cds then there'd inevitably be more copies in circulation than those sold at the shows...granted not a lot but there'd be some, and if Meat's not happy with the show then from his point of view that's "some" too many

:twisted: Actually, if Meat was concerned about the quality of recordings on the night, he'd be better off going with a plan like this.

Hands up anyone who believes there isn't at least one bootleg of the concert that Lucy mentioned :roll:


Now, if Meat was going to allow the sale of recordings on the night, at least there could be a quick edit job done on the night.

Nothing fancy you understand, just a chance to delete any mistakes like a false start on a song.
Especially if there is an intival, as the first half of the show could be given a lot of extra attention while Meat plays the second half.
I'm sure if they really wanted to, they could pretty much edit the song Meat has just finished as he starts singing the next.


OK, what you end up with is not the kind of thing Meat would qualify as shop shelf quality, but if people buy the CD on the night, and trade them (and don't think they won't be traded :roll: ) then at least it's copies that had the benefit of a quick tweak, and not a bootleg that has every little mistake on it.

And if there are 500 copies of the ML release, and 5 bootleg recordings, the bootleg is going to be far in the minority.


Could even make bootlegs as we know them a thing of the past :shock:

It's a theory, but who's expected to do the editing while Meat's playing the second half?

I'd imagine from Meat's point of view that he'd want to have final approval of any live material that is released of his show's and that's just not going to happen straight after a concert. The guy has enough to contend with as it is.

It's pretty clear to me, from watching In Search Of Paradise, what Meat's views on this would be, and whilst I applaud Kev's efforts, I really can't see it coming to any fruition.

:twisted: As Andy says, Meat IS a perfectionist to almost the point of being OCD, and this process does not promote crystal clear clarity that Meat would qualify for the shop shelf.

But if he DID decide to go with it, i'm sure there must be a couple of people he knows that he can trust to do him justice :wink:

Just to reiterate from Andy's post, full credit to Kev for even thinking of putting this in motion...it's a great idea and I'm sure it works for a lot of artists, I'm just not sure if Meat is one of them

:twisted: Yeah, kudos to Kev on the effort :up:

one thing we have to keep in mind here:
Hes in the business for over 30 years.....the chances are very hight that at least once one of those live recording companies went to him or the management with the offer for a contract with them. It's their job and they want as much work as possible right?

So if he wanted to do this, or in other words, if he wouldnt be against something like that, it whould have much likely already happened.

Still worth a try though, let's just see what happens.

As Meat once said, its Rock N Roll, anything goes and besides; it's live and mistakes do happen so it would also show that the recording hasn't been tampered with (ie: being redubber etc.. in a studio). Also imo; its doesn't matter if there are problems, its all in the show and really its just a minor problems like that... he was into it and got lost or something like that...

Overall though, I think the only way we can clarify if this is gonna work is to wait until we get some kind of feedback from Meat and co. Its all right assuming something but without official word/comment on this, I can see this thread going on forever and ever.... Guess my guess is good as yours but we'll have to see what comes of it all when Kev gets word from the company and oif he manages to as he might not. Thanks though for your hard work so far :-)

I was thinking about this and since its coming up soon to the start of the tour, has there been anything new on this issue - will this be possible???

:twisted: Sorry Ross, but I think if anyone had heard anything new, I think it would have been posted by now.

just thought I'd ask

Just wondering if this is the surprise Meat has been referring to?

i cant see it personally, way too risky for him imo