Lol i know it is painful isn't it. Same with Ashley Cole. We hated them but we were cheering them on.

We'd be shouting at the tele, go on knobhead! Lol

Well, best team won it, got to say I was really impressed with Spain's performance, showed everyone how it should be played.

Yeah, shame everyone cant play that way. Do you think our players will ever learn to play like that?

Sometimes it's just a case of a good group of players coming together at the right time, e.g Windies cricket 80's, Aussies cricket 90's/00's, Liverpool football 70's/80's, Brentford....er?

Seriously?

Spain is on top of the World. If you are able to win 3 major tournaments in a row with a record of clean sheets... that can't be luck. Sure they had one or two games that could have gone the other way... IN 6 YEARS!

LOL Oranje would love to be half as good as Spain. If even for one match :twisted:

The only good thing for the Dutch, out of this Euro 2012 fiasco is the leave of Bert v Marwijk. A man who, almost singlehandedly killed the Dutch flair of the national team. Under his command we never ever impressed and we never outclassed another A-grade oponents.

Yes we beat Brazil in the semi's after we should have been behind 3-0 after 45 minutes (remember the not-given penalty in the first half?)

Since the 2010 finals The Dutch played against the following A-teams - Teams to qualify for latest WC/EC (and guess how many we won)

Sweden (2x)
Germany (2x)
England
Brazil
Uruguay
Denmark
Portugal

So how many did we win out of those 9 "top" matches?

2:
Sweden in 2010 (lost to them later in 2011)
England (but to be fair, everybody beats England)

Beside that we also got beat by
Australia (!)
Bulgaria
Bayern Munchen (after they lost the C'League final and with a Dutch team on full strength)


From the last 6 matches (Bayern match not included) the Dutch lost 4. Only wins are against Nothern Ireland and Slowakia.

From the last 10 games (again without the Bayern game) the Dutch only won 3 games!

All of this wouldn't have been too bad if at least we played 'the Dutch way'. But this tournament ' Oranje' had 30 good minutes against Denmark, 15 minutes against Germany and 20 good minutes against Portugal. WOW now that's a top team :roll:

With these facts it's hard to cheer for the Dutch and call Spain lucky ;)

Actually we didn't lose a game this tournemount, haven't lose in 6 games so far under hodgson.

See, even the louzy English are better than us


:twisted: *Rob, I was being sarcastic ;)

I predict that Spain will win

*edit why did this take 3 weeks between clicking post and it appearing online?

We have won the cup!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

now...back to work ;)

dude, don't wanna burst your bubble, but losing on penalties is still losing...

And just how hard was the bookie laughing at you?:D

England did as well as I thought they would, no surprises there. Very surprised at your lot though, hell of a drop from a World Cup final to out in the group stage, in your defence it was a tough group but did think you'd do better than you did.

England are up to 4th in the latest FIFA rankings :shock:

I don't really see it that way. Penalty shootouts are just a lottery to decide a game that's already ended as a draw. If you ask any manager, and indeed i've heard many many managers say it, going out on penalties doesn't mean you've lost in the traditional sense.

Would you be saying that if you'd won?
Truth is, you didn't win. You went out. As in lost. Whether or not you see it that way is moot.
Now I'm just waiting for someone to mention that Wales weren't even in it to begin with lol

My work here is done :))

what??? were Wales not in it??

Actually according to FIFA and UEFA statistic rules, the game is a draw. Penalties decide who advances through but in the records there are no winners or losers because the score after 120 minutes is definitive ;)