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I love the echoes! I wish they would add The Giving Tree and Our Love And Our Souls from this tour.

from todays news on www.melodicock.com:

MEAT LOAF- THE GUILTY PLEASURE TOUR:
New DVD, due on October 23, Captures The Ultimate Meatloaf Concert Experience At Sold Out Australian Arena Show

Concert-One TV, the innovative UK-based production company has announced it will release Meat Loaf - The Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD, which was captured during the singer's recent sold-out Australian Tour. Featuring a blend of classic Meat Loaf hits and material from his last few albums, The Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD will give fans the definitive bird's eye view of the legendary singer during one of his most memorable performances. Released worldwide on October 23, the DVD will include a bonus documentary on Meat Loaf in Australia which includes a brand new in depth interview with the man himself. "What was captured on tape at this sell out concert was the 'true live' Meat Loaf experience," says Concert-One President, Steve Timmins. "He really does put 110% into his shows and this one captures his HUGE performance, backed by his brilliant band, The Neverland Express."

The Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD presents the most technologically advanced filming of a Meat Loaf concert ever captured. Utilizing 15 Hi-Def cameras, including 2 cranes and a dolly to capture the movement and energy, as well as stationary and remote cameras placed around the venue and onstage, the viewer will experience the performance almost as if they were on the stage themselves. "The viewer gets to see what he or she would normally never see from being in the audience," says Meat Loaf, who took a proactive involvement during the planning, filming and post-production of the video. "(They see) the hands, the fingers, the facial expressions, the intensities; those kinds of things. That is what we were going for, to make the DVD different than the live show. The viewer gets to live in a different world."
The show was shot at the Sydney Entertainment Centre in Australia, during a completely sold-out 10,000 seat arena on the singer's 2012 tour. DVD producer, Lyn Beardsall says: "The venue was great for filming. It had good access for us, and it was sold out, so we were guaranteed an enthusiastic Australian crowd. Meat Loaf was involved in every aspect of the video including the edit and 5.1 surround sound mixing. He also insisted we use a director he had worked with in the past, Paul (PR) Jones."
Adds Beardsall: "Paul had worked with Meat Loaf on a number of occasions and knew exactly what he was looking for. He wanted a lot of movement as the show is high energy and he wanted to capture that energy. No matter what you're doing- whether you are onstage or doing a scene in a TV show or movie or singing a song, there is different techniques- but it all comes down to one thing- finding the truth in the moment."
Born Marvin Lee Aday in Texas, Meat Loaf exploded on international music scene in 1977, with the release of his icon debut thematic album, Bat Out Of Hell, written by friend and colleague, Jim Steinman. Among the albums to define the arena rock genre, it has sold to date over 43 million copies, making it the fifth highest selling album of all time. He went on to have several more gold and platinum successes with Dead Ringer (1981), Bad Attitude (1984) and the Bat Out Of Hell sequels Bat Out Of Hell II: Back Into Hell (1993) and Bat Out Of Hell III: The Monster Is Loose (2006).
In 2010, he released Hang Cool Teddy Bear, followed by this year's Hell In A Hand Basket. He has also starred in several dozen Hollywood films, including the legendary Rocky Horror Picture Show, and Fight Club, where he acted opposite Brad Pitt.
Meat Loaf has released several popular DVD titles prior to The Guilty Pleasure Tour. They include: Bat Out Of Hell - The Original Tour; Bat 3 Live; and Live With The Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. Says Concert One's Steve Timmins: "On The Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD Meat Loaf gives his fans exactly what they are wanting to see. He knows what he wants and has had a lot of experience in front of a camera so knows exactly what works."
Adds Meat Loaf: "I only know one way. And that is: you either walk out on stage and give 110%, or you don't. Those people that bought those tickets are more important than I am. They are the most important people in the world. They bought that ticket. What matters is what is going on in that audience and making sure they are getting what they paid for."

Meat Loaf- The Guilty Pleasure Tour Produced by Concert-One Ltd: www.concert-one.tv Distributed by INgrooves Fontana: www.ingroovesfontana.com
Concert Running Time: 2 Hours 5 minutes, Documentary Running Time: 40 minutes
DVD contains 13 tracks including Meat Loaf's classic hits: Bat Out of Hell, Living on the Outside, You Took the Words, Two out Three Ain't Bad, Paradise by the Dashboard Light, And the new hit from his appearance on NBC's Celebrity Apprentice Stand in the Storm.


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5.1 surround sound... cool :)

What's the point using all these super high technology advanced super hi def super cameras if you are only going to release the damn thing in SD, 15 year old video technology?!

There should have been a Blu Ray release.

Even the sound quality will suffer on DVD because of compression.
It's almost akin to releasing MSO in VHS in 2004 and then boasting about the technology that has been used to film it.

Oh well....

Damn I left out Mad Mad World :oops:

I always find this sort of promotion funny. "Let's take a random song he performed and present it as if it was a massive hit." I think you're looking for I'd Do Anything For Love or Rock and Roll Dreams :lol:

Yes but "Living on the outside" was not a massive hit, it was a classic hit according to that promotion, which according to Wiki makes even less sense given the fact it was a very recently released song.

I've listened to the previews numerous times and I think Meat sounds quite good. Patti's voice is a beautiful accompaniment. The only thing I'm not digging in the songs is violin,which sounds adult contemporary while the rest of the music is rock.

I love the vocal mix with strong vocals by Meat and strong backing vocals by Patti & co. Backing vocals are an important part of Steinman's music/Meat's show. I thought the backing vocals were mixed too low on the Casa live cd--it didn't sound like the Casa show I saw. The Guilty Pleasure vocal mix sounds just like the Hang Cool shows I saw. Nice job!

Just got around to listening to this. The band still sounds excellent, but Meat's vocals aren't as good as on the songs from the PNC show released last year. :whistle:

and like 90% of the HC Tour shows....it makes me wonder why they are releasing the Australian tour when we know Meat had the bleeding vocal cord, and basically never fully recovered during that tour.....Plus dry weather, and a really terrible attitude from some of his fans and the press that I think just transferred into bad energy for Meat.....I wish they would have released one from the Hang Cool Tour instead, it would have shown the world how effing amazing Meat still is. (ie) you wouldn't get a review of the DVD saying he has "less energy now" because most of the hang cool bootlegs I have show more energy than the MSO DVD.

A dvd of the Hang Cool tour from the UK would have been mind-blowing. Meat was in top form and the setlist included Song of Madness and Dead Ringer. The show was so hard rockin'. The classical violin detracts from the rock sound, imo. Not sure why it was added.

I am really glad I got to see the Hang Cool tour and Mad, Mad World tour and see Meat at the top of his game. Hopefully he will film a future show down the road.

A DVD filmed over two nights in the UK at the MEN or the O2 Arena, with a selection of greatest hits and a couple of HIAH songs in the first half and the whole of Bat Out Of Hell in the second would do me nicely. :twisted:

Yup they so were, got to see them both too thankfully.

wait till u see the DVD people!!!

I love that he decided to film the Ozzie show. Violin rocks, Meat sound BETTER then the PNC stuff imo, and I was at the PNC show.

I think this is gonna be teh greatest thing ever. and dont forget that we are getting boardtapes too! maybe they encompass the best shows of the Hang Cool, GP, and MMW tour thus far.

I just hope that somewhere down the road we get to see a 2010 Hang Cool registration (a tv concert?). That tour was too good not to get some sort of video release.

There were probably numerous plans made in advance that could not easily be changed. It still sounds good enough.

yeah very true, and it definitely does still sound excellent. Its going to be much better than 3 Bats and that is a very good step in the right direction :D

Agree 100%. Some people are never happy.

I'm super happy about this dvd. Just because I feel like discussing what may have been a better show (at a better time when Meat wasn't hurtin) to release does not mean I'm not perfectly content with this DVD release. Meat's performances are all excellent, and I'll be very happy to see this one.....I'm suggesting the energy may not be as fantastic as the US/UK shows, but it will still be great and I'm really looking forward to it :)

Exactly. Be happy for what you have, and don't worry about what you don't have ;)
We asked Meat for a DVD of the HCTB tour ...... he filmed one, he's going to make sure he's happy with it,
and IMO it's going to be amazing :))

I don't think it's just that. Some people can but dream surely? ;-)

Personally I would have loved a release from the Wembley show in 2010 as I really thought that was Meat's best I've seen since RAH but then a lot of others who saw multiple shows on that UK tour said he was better in other places. To me personally Meat ~~~~ing rocked the house down at Wembley and he seems to do that perfectly when things come together and he is happy himself. I'm not saying the Ozzie show is bad or a waste of time, far from it, just think that from a personal experience it looked like London 2010 was better as he seemed more in control of everything.

I still love the violin.

But in the end a critical person will enjoy a GREAT product better than a person who is happy with everything... ;)

In the end "better" is just subjective.

But more objective than claiming it's all great ;)

I wish people dared to acknowledge the difference in quality more often. Then they would enjoy a stand out product better than when they don't dare to acknowledge flaws :cool: No matter how subjective you may think that sounds :twisted:

It's good NOT to equally enjoy everything you get. It will make you become indifferent. Or even unconcerned.

Thundery sound effects / Nocturnal Pleasure / If It Ain't Broke Break It
Modern Girl
Dead Ringer For Love
I'd Lie For You
Live Or Die
California Dreamin'
The Giving Tree
I'd Do Anything For Love
Objects In The Rear View Mirror
Rock And Roll Dreams

Bat Out Of Hell
You Took The Words
Heaven Can Wait
All Revved Up
Two Out Of Three
Paradise
For Crying Out Loud

Mercury Blues
Why Don't We Do It In The Road
a new cover (something by Queen or The Who perhaps? :shrug:)
Gimme Shelter

Do Frying Pan and Lemon as soundchecks for a double CD special edition and Bob's your uncle, Fanny's your aunt and I've taken this thread completely off topic. :lol:

That may be the worst Hot Patootie to ever see release. Vocally, Meat just sounds awful in that 1.5 minute clip. By the time he hits the chorus, "hopped in the backseat, really had a good time" he literally seems to be just screaming, and not even screaming well. Can't believe they didn't dub the vocals on that one.

I agree with what a few others have said, maybe Australia, with all the issues going on over there, wasn't the place to do this. I'm sure it was probably planned to far ahead, but the end product is unfortunately a sub par representation of Meat.

And before anybody runs in on their high horse, this is all IN MY OPINION.

Not in my view. To enjoy an artist's work across the board without subjecting it to strong criticism does not mean that there will not be occasions when you are absolutely blown away by what he does. That I have never been unhappy with a performance of Meat's doesn't mean I can neither spot nor be thrilled when he kicks it out of the park. And as enjoyment of anything is wholly subjective, no-one can say with any authority that anyone else's enjoyment of a GREAT performance is any greater than mine. I don't have to be disappointed or find fault with the other dishes served at a banquet just because one was sublime. Thankfully I can enjoy all of them even though one outshines some of the others.

Caryl

From what I have been able to see and hear Mark my opinion is that this is not sub-par. In the songs featured in the 18 minute promo I saw and heard a good representation of the shows I thrilled to on that tour, and Meat's vocals were great. The shooting will have been planned far in advance, and when the day arrives Meat plays the hand he's holding. I think he played it extremely well.

When I've heard Hot Patootie I will come back and respond. If I don't find it as great as I did on the tour I'll say so, but I do not believe I will find it matches your description, nor would I ever describe it in that way.

Caryl

It doesn't matter what you think - sometimes no one can hear you scream ;) Sad but true ...

Looking forward to it. I'm sure Hot Patootie will rock as ever - its some of the other classics that may be not as great as ever - but by all means prove me wrong !!!

I was referring to Hot Patootie as commented on by Mark. If when I hear it I think it does not live up to the performances I saw on the tour I will say so.

I don't expect any song to sound like it did when it was performed in 1978. Meat's voice has matured, he moves on, and I do with him. However, he has overcome the vocal difficulties that beset him leading up to the vocal cyst. He's been performing superbly in my view since he recovered from that, I was delighted with his performance at every show I went to on the Hang Cool tour, and from what I have heard and seen on the 18 minute promo clip here, the Sydney show faithfully lives up to those. BOOH, AFL, SITS and R&RD all stand out as doing that. However, I have not the slightest inclination to prove you wrong, change your perceptions, or push elephants uphill sideways ;)

I'll pass on your other response to one of my posts as I haven't a clue what you're trying to suggest.

Caryl

Well all I have to say is I watched BAT and I think it is outstanding, yes it has been edited- dubbed- re-recorded- whatever it is - which is completely expected. Meats vocals are exceptional , the band is great as usual - lighting is fantastic. Cut very Best Bat i've heard since MSO- i love the addition of the orchestra on MSO so that is pretty untouchable for me personally. This DVD is going to be great-I'm happy.

I've watched the promo of BOOH a few times now and I really love it. Yes, it might have been re-recorded but to be honest, I don't actually care. All that matters to me is that I enjoy the DVD and if the rest of it is as good as the promo then I'm sure I'm going to love it. :D

How do we know it's overdubbed? Is there evidence?
I think it would have sounded better/different if it had. Compare Meat's studio vocals on HIAH etc. I think those are the original vocals.

Just lots of opinions I think ;)

I think it could well have sounded different. To me it sounds just like the concerts I attended. That BOOH is really great. And at the end of the day, like Jenna, I don't give a rats' if anything has been tweaked, effects added, or anything else. Meat's vocals were brilliant on the tour, the band is just the best, and if this DVD takes me back to the wonderful nights of brilliant shows I experienced .. that's what matters to me.

Meat's giving us the DVD we asked for. He wants it to be the best it can be. That's what I love about the man .. he wants all the time to give us the very best he can. I shall bang it in the DVD (non-Blu Ray) player, sit back without a stopwatch in my hand, and simply enjoy what he has signed off on. The lighting for me simply enhances the feeling of being in the arena .. so I love that. Will he sound like he did in 1978? Not much of the time; that was over 30 years ago, and we've all moved on. Will he be pitch perfect on every single note? Probably not. Will he be a nanosecond or two out on timing at some point? Quite possibly. But will he deliver a fantastic, hugely entertaining and polished show with flair, passion, incredible energy and total commitment? In my view, without a doubt. That's what I'm buying, that's why I'll love it, and that's why I thank him so much for doing it :D

Caryl

Watch the entire DVD then see what you say. u have no idea what the final product is like, you only know what youve been appetized.

If the large appetizers are that sour, then I'm not holding my breath that the main course will suddenly sound better than what they are promoting the thing with

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The thing is that the tasters are designed to give people an idea of the DVD and tempt them to buy it but if you don't like what you see in the teasers then there's not a lot to persuade you to buy it.

It's like any product, if you don't like the sound of it from the commercials then you probably won't be rushing out to buy it.

I, personally, have been impressed with the majority of what I have seen about this DVD and because of that I am looking forward to the moment when I can watch it.

This DVD is not going to appeal to everyone but I can't think of a single product that IS universally liked. It doesn't mean the products are inferior, it's just the way the world works.

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Proof? :-P

Information on backing vocals, instrument tuning and crowd noise. Nothing about overdubbing, autotuning etc of Meat's vocals, which seems to me to be the inference frequently on this thread and others.

And I'm still surprised that anyone (not referring to you Matt) would think that the clip we've seen and heard of BOOH from the DVD is not terrific, and an ideal taster.

Caryl

Yeah that's one thing I found when re-reading Paul's post, it talks about the band members, not Meat Loaf. Its hard to tell if he is commenting on Meat or not. I totally agree regarding BOOH from the dvd. It sounds absolutely awesome. Its very exciting :)

He didnt mention meat for a reason. Meat is totally overdubbed and it sounds amazing. just what I wanted! a perfect mix, unlike what 3 bats live was.

I love all the previews. this will look and sound amazinggggg

Some here are really sure of themselves aren't they? :roll:

I'm sorry, over dubbed or not, he does not sound amazing, nor does BOOH in this instance. The vocals, IMO are bad, the violin doesn't fit with the sound, and that echo is just outright annoying and makes it sound over produced.

I have played the EPK and the iTunes previews for several people outside of the Meaty community and all of them say that there is no way that they could make it through the whole thing with the way he sounds.

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If you read what Paul posted again, you'll see that he said they ran all the mics through some tuning software, grabbing words here and there that needed a tune-up. And obviously Meat was singing into a mic, so...
Hey, I'm all for it. I want the DVD to be brilliant, jut like everyone here. If that means the bits that were considered sub par (by the guys that played 'em) have been made better, then why not? I certainly would tidy any niggly little things up if it were my release (I wish!)

I obviously don't know for sure what was overdubbed and what wasn't, but for me, a "totally overdubbed" live performance isn't live anymore. :shrug:

Springsteen's voice was pretty shredded in parts on the "Live in Hyde Park" DVD, but they left it that way- it's what he sounded like at the time.

I see circles......

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Maybe you'd be less surprised if you realized that not everybody is like you in this respect. ;)

I'm not overly excited about this. I like the music but the way Meat Loaf sounds on stage these days is not my cup of tea :( - overdubbed or not overdubbed, echo or no echo. Mind you, I'm not saying it's bad, I just don't like his current style of singing when it comes to concerts. (Just in case someone who can't differentiate between a judgement and a personal opinion wants to start another argument.)

London Calling. Very first song. My God. That one was in desperate need of an overdub :|

To all of you saying it wasn't overdubbed. Took ages to find, but I KNEW he said he was re-recording parts a while back ;)

from http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthr...592#post555592

That said, this was a while ago and things might have changed since then, AND only 20% redone isn't a hell of a lot. So even if it was overdubbed, the vast majority of it was live.

From the sound of it, part of that 20% is in Bat. There's bits here and there, but what the hell is that "note" Meat "sings" at the end of the piano solo in the intro? The high YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!? :shock: I am NOT digging for it again, but he also said that Hot Patootie and Break It were shaky somewhere along the line. So they might have been overdubbed in parts, too. Either way, it's not a big deal. Sounds great, and that's all that matters :)

:cheers:

I'm not a fan of those 3 or 4 random screams they put in there they sound fake and really don't sounds good in the context of the song

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OMG! We are going round in circles here people.

No - not everyone is going to agree what we have seen via Youtube and heard via iTunes (and other sites/programs) is "fantastic" "spectacular" "bad" "sick" or any other adjective in the thesaurus. There are people who will like the product and people who will not like the product. It is art; therefore, subjective - up to the consumer's taste. I have said it before and will say it again....this is just like politics people....it is fun to discuss, but until you see passed your own ego and realize there are people with differing opinions out there, you will just be going round in circles.

I'd say appreciate or ridicule for what it is, respect the opinions of other posters, carry on intelligent conversation - however, this constant "my way or the highway" type of discourse will only lead this topic to the lock box like so many other conversations have gone before. Remember, there are free thinking people behind each post on this board - you cannot control their thoughts/opinions, the same as they cannot control yours.

Now...anyone have anything NEW to add to the conversation?

I have listened to the song clips many times, and I think the vocals are great.

I am kind of confused about the video edit. Ginny only performed in a few shows, but she appears in more camera frames than any of the other band members (and some of the band have been with Meat for a decade or even 2 decades).

I watched the 5 minute trailer, the EPK as well as Bat Out Of Hell and don't think that the camera focuses more on her than on other members. When you hear a distinctive guitar or drum sound, there are close-ups of Paul or John (for example) and when you hear the violin, you get to see Ginny. What's wrong with that? It's good editing, in my opinion. And why does it matter how long someone has been in the band? The most important thing is that someone does a good job. I don't see any reasons for jealousy.

Sometimes the camera misses the real action on stage, like in LA when they break away to the audience with their arms folded because they don't know the song. Danny didn't get many shots. Many times Patti was blocked in the shot by Randy. Some of the camera angles seemed odd to me, just my opinion. I'm sure it will be fine when we see the entire final product.

You might have a point here but I fail to realize how this leads to Ginny getting more attention than the other band members.

I think it's not that easy to capture and show everything that's going on on stage and everybody have their own idea of what "the real action" is. It doesn't look too bad to me so far, the only thing that bothers me is the blue light. It's just used too much for my liking.

I think they captured the band on their instruments, but many times I can hear Patti's voice and they miss a shot of her or she's blocked in the shot. I'm sure it is difficult to capture everything on stage. With 15 cameras, I'm not sure why they included some of the distant shots or shots from behind where you can't really see what's happening.

Regardless, I'm going to enjoy the dvd when it's released. Like Dave said, it's all just opinion and a matter of taste. No one is right or wrong.