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LucyK! 12 Jul 2007 15:20

I don't smoke so can't include tobacco as veg, and I don't drink beer so I can't count hops either...what about if I make sre I add lemon every time I have a gin and tonic?!

It's chocolate that's concerning me, but as I said to Andy, they're never stop me eating it - I'll fight them on the beaches!!!!!

samurai7 12 Jul 2007 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 355820)
Actually...no...for all the taxes we pay we have NOTHING to show for it...at least you guys get socialized health care and decent pension...where our health system is way out of control now and we're running out of money for pension....

And by the way...with us...cigs and fuel is true...but for some reason booze is ok...Cigarettes kill...and fuel pollutes...but apparently booze is harmless...

Yes, but work out how much more the cigs and fuel are over here. That's what I meant.
And by the time I get to retirement age, there'll be no money left in the pot for my generation. That's why it's imperitive that people of my age sort themselves out a private pension scheme. We do have the NHS, though, which despite its flaws is a God-send.

mszee 12 Jul 2007 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by knooby (Post 355825)
stop talking about food please

Which post you considered food post - coleslaw one or fags/beer ones?

mszee 12 Jul 2007 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy! (Post 355827)
I don't smoke so can't include tobacco as veg, and I don't drink beer so I can't count hops either...what about if I make sre I add lemon every time I have a gin and tonic?!

It's chocolate that's concerning me, but as I said to Andy, they're never stop me eating it - I'll fight them on the beaches!!!!!

Chocolate was found to be VERY VERY healthy...and this is not a joke...check some latest research....

samurai7 12 Jul 2007 15:26

wait, isn't chocolate derived from the cocoa tree? If that ain't vegetation, I dunno what is!

(I should have been a lawyer, lol!)

mszee 12 Jul 2007 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf (Post 355828)
Yes, but work out how much more the cigs and fuel are over here. That's what I meant.
And by the time I get to retirement age, there'll be no money left in the pot for my generation. That's why it's imperitive that people of my age sort themselves out a private pension scheme. We do have the NHS, though, which despite its flaws is a God-send.

Cigs I might agree with you...healthy fecking nation here...fuel - never...we have more SUV's than I've ever even seen in England on one highway...

I don't know what NHS is...

By the way...had a guest from over there and left him apparently permanently hungry...our health conscious eating habits would have probably killed your lot within a month or so...not that I love it either...

LucyK! 12 Jul 2007 15:27

Yeah there's meant to be something healthy in dark chocolate isn't there?

Still not sure we'll be able to justify the amount we eat though :p

LucyK! 12 Jul 2007 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf (Post 355831)
wait, isn't chocolate derived from the cocoa tree? If that ain't vegetation, I dunno what is!

(I should have been a lawyer, lol!)

I always liked you, Sean... :up:

AndyK 12 Jul 2007 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy! (Post 355833)
Yeah there's meant to be something healthy in dark chocolate isn't there?

Still not sure we'll be able to justify the amount we eat though :p


Who said we had to jusitfy it??????

mszee 12 Jul 2007 15:31

http://www.clevelandclinic.org/heart.../chocolate.htm

duke knooby 12 Jul 2007 15:33

i dont think ive seen as sensible a conversation on this site for along long long time

mszee 12 Jul 2007 15:34

Having said all of the above about American's "healthy eating habits"...I did enjoy my food in England...in a space of 5 days I've gained over 10 pounds which I can't seem to be able to shed now...but hey...I did enjoy it while it lasted...

samurai7 12 Jul 2007 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 355832)
Cigs I might agree with you...healthy fecking nation here...fuel - never...we have more SUV's than I've ever even seen in England on one highway...

I don't know what NHS is...

By the way...had a guest from over there and left him apparently permanently hungry...our health conscious eating habits would have probably killed your lot within a month or so...not that I love it either...

you've misinterpreted me again. Yes, the US uses more fuel, but our fuel COSTS MORE. As in HIGHER PRICE. it's currently just under £5 a gallon, whereas in the States it's $2.90 or thereabouts. At the current exchange rate, this means that we pay almost THREE TIMES AS MUCH per gallon than you do. Now do you see what I mean? This is why we can't all afford the gas-guzzling SUV's that you guys love. It's not economically viable for anyone who's not in the higher wage brackets.

by the way, the NHS is the National Health Service.

(and PS - I don't live in England)

mszee 12 Jul 2007 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by knooby (Post 355839)
i dont think ive seen as sensible a conversation on this site for along long long time

You think this is sensible?

duke knooby 12 Jul 2007 15:35

is that mark alexander online??

mszee 12 Jul 2007 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf (Post 355841)
you've misinterpreted me again. Yes, the US uses more fule, but our fule COSTS MORE. As in HIGHER PRICE. it's currently just under £5 a gallon, whereas in the States it's $2.90 or thereabouts. At the current exchange rate, this means that we pay almost THREE TIMES AS MUCH per gallon than you do. Now do you see what I mean? This is why we can't all afford the gas-guzzling SUV's that you guys love. It's not economically viable for anyone who's not in the higher wage brackets.

by the way, the NHS is the National Health Service.

The fuel here now, unfortunately, is close to $4.- per gallon...

And with all this...there are STILL more SUV's on the road...weird...I drive Prius...so...on the other hand...I nearly drowned in flooding resulted from heavy rains yesterday with my Prius ...and while I was driving my economical car...I was chanting...

Next time...SUV...next time...SUV...

If you live in NY...you can get away without car...anywhere else in the States...you can't survive...the public transportation system is not developed anywhere but in NYC...so...there is no choice...even if you have to drive a jalopy...you still have to drive...

Thanks for explanation NHS...learning something every day...

samurai7 12 Jul 2007 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 355845)
And with all this...there are STILL more SUV's on the road...weird...I drive Prius...so...on the other hand...I nearly drowned in flooding resulted from heavy rains yesterday with my Prius ...and while I was driving my economical car...I was chanting...

Next time...SUV...next time...SUV...

If you live in NY...you can get away without car...anywhere else in the States...you can't survive...the public transportation system is not developed anywhere but in NYC...so...there is no choice...even if you have to drive a jalopy...you still have to drive...

Thanks for explanation NHS...learning something every day...

$4 is still only about £2. And as far as your Prius is concerned - it's not as green as you'd think. You'd be far better off with a small turbo-diesel such as the VW Lupo that will do 75+ to the gallon. The US never seemed to get the grasp that diesel is more economical than petrol, and the Prius is an example of a car that even though its intentions are honest, is very expensive and not nearly as economical as it's made out to be. the first generation could manage 51 to the gallon. Most modern deisels do 60+

mszee 12 Jul 2007 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf (Post 355847)
$4 is still only about £2. And as far as your Prius is concerned - it's not as green as you'd think. You'd be far better off with a small turbo-diesel such as the VW Lupo that will do 75+ to the gallon. The US never seemed to get the grasp that diesel is more economical than petrol, and the Prius is an example of a car that even though its intentions are honest, is very expensive and not nearly as economical as it's made out to be. the first generation could manage 51 to the gallon. Most modern deisels do 60+

Although price wise it's true...you have to compare apples to apples...i.e. cost of living and salaries...

Our rent/mortgage takes about 3 weeks of our monthly salary...and about one week for EVERYTHING else...nothing is easy...

We don't have VW Lupo and I don't think I've ever even seen it...our VW are VERY expensive...where as Prius...not so much...

And try to find diesel station here...good luck!!! The only car running on diesel here as far as I know is some old Mercedes models...otherwise...we just don't have those...

Hell...our President has interest in oil...do you think we will be running electric cars soon???

samurai7 12 Jul 2007 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 355851)
Although price wise it's true...you have to compare apples to apples...i.e. cost of living and salaries...

Our rent/mortgage takes about 3 weeks of our monthly salary...and about one week for EVERYTHING else...nothing is easy...

We don't have VW Lupo and I don't think I've ever even seen it...our VW are VERY expensive...where as Prius...not so much...

And try to find diesel station here...good luck!!! The only car running on diesel here as far as I know is some old Mercedes models...otherwise...we just don't have those...

Hell...our President has interest in oil...do you think we will be running electric cars soon???

Lupo was just an example, there are other small cars that are very economical. Every mass-manufacturer will have a diesel version of its most popular cars. Current Ford diesel engines are excellent. But the reason the Diesel isn't widely available is the same as I stated before. In a country where oil is cheap (and despite your protests, it is) then there's no call for it. Diesels now make up a huge proportion of car sales in the UK. This is because for the same cost as petrol (or thereabouts) you get far more miles to the gallon. It doesn't take Einstein to work out that in the long run you're 'quids-in', as we Brits might or might not say :)

It is very difficult to persuade a country that is used to huge V8's that give tiny horsepower, and even less fuel efficiency, that small cars are the way forward. The Prius was the first step in the right direction, so hopefully the tide is turning.

duke knooby 12 Jul 2007 16:02

baab sucks

mszee 12 Jul 2007 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf (Post 355857)
Lupo was just an example, there are other small cars that are very economical. Every mass-manufacturer will have a diesel version of its most popular cars. Current Ford diesel engines are excellent. But the reason the Diesel isn't widely available is the same as I stated before. In a country where oil is cheap (and despite your protests, it is) then there's no call for it. Diesels now make up a huge proportion of car sales in the UK. This is because for the same cost as petrol (or thereabouts) you get far more miles to the gallon. It doesn't take Einstein to work out that in the long run you're 'quids-in', as we Brits might or might not say :)

It is very difficult to persuade a country that is used to huge V8's that give tiny horsepower, and even less fuel efficiency, that small cars are the way forward. The Prius was the first step in the right direction, so hopefully the tide is turning.

I honestly don't know much about cars to have an intelligent conversation with...I am a woman after all...:lmao:

However driving through the fecking rivers here yesterday...I was praying for deliverance and seriously thinking with longing about SUVs...it's not even about efficiency...we get floods and snow storms all the time...and in America...business is business...most businesses stay open in bad weather...and as before I wouldn't have EVER considered SUV...having this car only for a year now...I am seriously thinking about my safety in the future...

firefly 12 Jul 2007 16:07

Another one post Sean and you have hit the 1000!!!

samurai7 12 Jul 2007 16:08

My 1000th post!

(I have far too much time on my hands :roll: )

firefly 12 Jul 2007 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf (Post 355861)
My 1000th post!

(I have far too much time on my hands :roll: )

:cheer:
Congrat's Sean.... About time too :lol:

mszee 12 Jul 2007 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf (Post 355861)
My 1000th post!

(I have far too much time on my hands :roll: )

Congrats!

duke knooby 12 Jul 2007 16:15

congrats on your 1001st post

duke knooby 12 Jul 2007 16:17

zinas very cool

mszee 12 Jul 2007 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by knooby (Post 355871)
zinas very cool

Actually...I am VERY hot...

Oh wait...you didn't mean weather, did you??? :oops:

RadioMaster 12 Jul 2007 18:16

VERY interesting discussion, there were many points I'd like to add my two cents, but dont wanna drag this thread back, so just my two essential thoughts:

If you see Zina's thoughts about SUV's, these might be the general thoughts of most Americans (I assume), so you dont have to wonder why the US is the main consumer of oil/producer of greenhouse gasses (if you call it that).

When the socialists with Schröder took the government here, back in 1998, they declared their aims to make Germany more healthy, with increasing tax on cigarrets and fuel. After a few years, it showed an impact, people smoked less and drove less. Only problem: Government complained that the economy had to suffer from less tax income, and told people to drive and smoke more.

That shows that after all it's just about money.
(sorry for bad grammar, quite busy here and somewhere else with my thoughts)

duke knooby 12 Jul 2007 18:31

melinda messenger still looks stunning

RadioMaster 12 Jul 2007 20:23

two weeks left til the simpsons movie :cheer:

"spiderpig, spiderpig, does whatever a spiderpig does" :))

Monstro 12 Jul 2007 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 355912)

"spiderpig, spiderpig, does whatever a spiderpig does" :))

I nearly wet myself at that bit when they showed a clip in the cinema, went to see Shrek 3 and was still laughing everytime the pigs came on screen!!!!!!

RadioMaster 12 Jul 2007 20:27

If the whole movie's like that..........:lmao:

Monstro 12 Jul 2007 20:29

Def worthy of a signature addition!!!!!

RadioMaster 12 Jul 2007 20:44

you have to credit me for that one! :p


:doh:

Monstro 12 Jul 2007 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 355920)
you have to credit me for that one! :p


:doh:

Nope, credit goes to Emma for choosing the film we went to see, I was favouring Die Hard 4

mszee 12 Jul 2007 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 355912)
two weeks left til the simpsons movie :cheer:

"spiderpig, spiderpig, does whatever a spiderpig does" :))

Every time I see this clip on TV I laugh myself silly...it's like a running joke here now...

AndyK 12 Jul 2007 21:28

How come it's so cold and dark? It's July!! :bicker:

duke knooby 12 Jul 2007 21:34

its gorgeous here now

SamCat 12 Jul 2007 21:37

Its lovely in London too!! Bright sunshine and quite warm too!!

mszee 12 Jul 2007 21:49

After horrible weather here...seems to be better here too

Monstro 12 Jul 2007 22:13

Cool episode of House on!!!!!

mszee 12 Jul 2007 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 355943)
Cool episode of House on!!!!!

Which one?

RadioMaster 12 Jul 2007 22:16

nice weather in Eisenach too






(if anyone's interested :bleh:)

Monstro 12 Jul 2007 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee (Post 355944)
Which one?

The baby one, pregnant lady

RadioMaster 12 Jul 2007 22:22

is it dangerous to wear a frilly shirt....................in cologne? :wtf:

AndyK 12 Jul 2007 22:35

It's dangerous to wear one anywhere!

Monstro 12 Jul 2007 22:39

FCUK that was close and I HATE losing an ebay auction, all for the sake of £2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mszee 12 Jul 2007 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 355947)
The baby one, pregnant lady

How the baby was killing the mother, that one?

mszee 12 Jul 2007 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 355948)
is it dangerous to wear a frilly shirt....................in cologne? :wtf:

IN Cologne...or AND cologne??? :shock:

Monstro 12 Jul 2007 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 355951)
FCUK that was close and I HATE losing an ebay auction, all for the sake of £2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GUTTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://media.mlxxfc.net/db68_1.jpg

RadioMaster 12 Jul 2007 22:56

It gets funny when you know that Cologne is the gay-capital of the country.....

SamCat 12 Jul 2007 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 355951)
FCUK that was close and I HATE losing an ebay auction, all for the sake of £2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How much did it go for in the end?

RadioMaster 12 Jul 2007 23:37

so Andy had £2 more on his credit card then?

Betty 13 Jul 2007 00:15

work-home-hamburg-home (today)
work-home-bad zwischenahn-hamburg-home (tomorrow)

:doh:
as much as I love driving, but that sucks! 700km is just too much!

Monstro 13 Jul 2007 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat (Post 355960)
How much did it go for in the end?

more than I could afford lol

Monstro 13 Jul 2007 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 355961)
so Andy had £2 more on his credit card then?

he wasn't bidding this time

AndyK 13 Jul 2007 00:35

Missed that one, otherwise I may well have been ...

duke knooby 13 Jul 2007 00:52

you should have said and i couldda loaned ya a few quid

SamCat 13 Jul 2007 01:05

You'd have to lent him quite a bit it went for quite a lot!!!

duke knooby 13 Jul 2007 01:07

its only money

RadioMaster 13 Jul 2007 01:08

but u like it

(to rephrase the stones)

duke knooby 13 Jul 2007 01:10

produced and arranged by popcorn blizzard i see

RadioMaster 13 Jul 2007 01:11

Im knackered but cant sleep
bad combo

duke knooby 13 Jul 2007 01:11

might explain why it sounds a bit, well, crap

RadioMaster 13 Jul 2007 01:15

and as we wind on down the road,
our shadow's taller than our souls....

LucyK! 13 Jul 2007 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 355912)
two weeks left til the simpsons movie :cheer:

"spiderpig, spiderpig, does whatever a spiderpig does" :))

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 355914)
I nearly wet myself at that bit when they showed a clip in the cinema, went to see Shrek 3 and was still laughing everytime the pigs came on screen!!!!!!

Andy that's the clip I was wetting myself over last week, I wanted to explain it but couldn't do it justice! :lol:

LucyK! 13 Jul 2007 10:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 355938)
How come it's so cold and dark? It's July!! :bicker:

This is God's way of punishing us for spending all our money on Tour - we can't go abroad! :p

Did everyone notice my use of multiquote in my last post by the way?! Very proud of myself :up:

RadioMaster 13 Jul 2007 11:28

well done Lucy

*backslapping*

:p

Ageing Bat 13 Jul 2007 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy! (Post 356026)

Did everyone notice my use of multiquote in my last post by the way?! Very proud of myself :up:

Yes, well done you...... I haven't a clue how to do it!

Somebody enlighten me please!

LucyK! 13 Jul 2007 12:08

It's the button between "quote" and "reply" - you click it on every post you want to quote then click "post reply" at the bottom :up:

AndyK 13 Jul 2007 12:11

Doesn't the person who showed you how to use it get any credit? :p

LucyK! 13 Jul 2007 12:15

...but I remembered it! :p

AndyK 13 Jul 2007 12:22

I'll take that as a no then shall I? :p

RadioMaster 13 Jul 2007 12:25

should pack some boxes

Ageing Bat 13 Jul 2007 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy! (Post 356035)
It's the button between "quote" and "reply" - you click it on every post you want to quote then click "post reply" at the bottom :up:

Thank you Lucy!


Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 356038)
I'll take that as a no then shall I? :p

:silence:

RadioMaster 13 Jul 2007 12:32

For those who missed the fun :)):

YouTube Video

LucyK! 13 Jul 2007 12:36

LMAO oh that's gonna get me through the day! :lmao:

It's not even what he says that's taht funny, it's the timing and the way the music cuts...fantastic!

AndyK 13 Jul 2007 12:42

:lol:

Watch out for SpiderDog over the weekend :))

LucyK! 13 Jul 2007 12:54

I've had enough spiders to last me a lifetime this week, I think it's best we keep all 4 of Scrabble's paws on the floor!

AndyK 13 Jul 2007 12:56

You and me both :lmao: ... but we could make him a YouTube star :))

LucyK! 13 Jul 2007 13:02

Do we get money out of that?

AndyK 13 Jul 2007 13:09

Once the intial investment of dog costs and 8 years dog food have been recouped I'm sure there'll be a profit ;-)

Ageing Bat 13 Jul 2007 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 356042)
For those who missed the fun :)):



I think I have a sense of humour failure....... or am I thick? what's so funny about that?

LucyK! 13 Jul 2007 13:59

I honestly don't know what's funny about it but the first time I saw it I howled laughing, I don't know if it's the timing or you're not expecting it...don't know but it really tickled me

mszee 13 Jul 2007 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ageing Bat (Post 356053)
I think I have a sense of humour failure....... or am I thick? what's so funny about that?

Well, it's kinda...

This is a theme song from the old Spider Man...

Spiderman, Spiderman,
Does whatever a spider can
Spins a web, any size,
Catches thieves just like flies
Look Out!
Here comes the Spiderman

So when Simpson sings this song...he kinda walks the pig over the ceiling like a Spiderman would walk and sings...

Spiderpig, Spiderpig...
Does whatever the Spiderpig does...

Because...whoever heard of spiderpig...and what is it exactly that spiderpig does???

To Americans this is funny...

RadioMaster 13 Jul 2007 17:18

good question, why is it funny? :sherlock:
laughed my ass off, but dont know why.........it's just a cute situation with that pig on the ceiling

mszee 13 Jul 2007 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 356064)
good question, why is it funny? :sherlock:
laughed my ass off, but dont know why.........it's just a cute situation with that pig on the ceiling

Does it mean that besides Americans this song has no meaning to anybody?

RadioMaster 13 Jul 2007 17:40

known here too, but i dont think the funny thing is the song itself.
It's rather how Homer takes care of the pig, like some little baby. I dont know...

mszee 13 Jul 2007 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 356067)
known here too, but i dont think the funny thing is the song itself.
It's rather how Homer takes care of the pig, like some little baby. I dont know...

No, we definitely laugh at the song...

duke knooby 13 Jul 2007 18:03

its soooooo wet

mszee 13 Jul 2007 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by knooby (Post 356069)
its soooooo wet

:silence:

AndyK 13 Jul 2007 18:58

300 minutes!

mszee 13 Jul 2007 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 356075)
300 minutes!

Of Ecstasy???? :WOW:

AndyK 13 Jul 2007 19:02

Yeah ... just time for a quickie :eyebrows:

mszee 13 Jul 2007 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 356078)
Yeah ... just time for a quickie :eyebrows:

OK...

This has just made my day along with COM being Meat's favorite song posted somewhere around here...I mean...these are my first smiles of today!

Monstro 13 Jul 2007 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy! (Post 356035)
It's the button between "quote" and "reply" - you click it on every post you want to quote then click "post reply" at the bottom :up:

So THAT'S how you do it

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 356036)
Doesn't the person who showed you how to use it get any credit? :p

Of course they do....................................cheers Smoggy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Monstro 13 Jul 2007 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 356045)
:lol:

Watch out for SpiderDog over the weekend :))

Wonder if Emma would fall for SpiderMarvin?

mszee 13 Jul 2007 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 356085)
Wonder if Emma would fall for SpiderMarvin?

It looks like she already did...:lmao:

RadioMaster 13 Jul 2007 19:48

this album is not as bad as I expected


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