Question for a friend. [Archive]

Guppie

14 Apr 2003, 22:03

A friend of mine would like an answer to the following questions:
1. was Jim Steinman at the concert Meat did in Ahoy Rotterdam in 1994
2. Did he play the piano during "Heaven Can Wait"

See, I was there in 1994 and so was this friend. And he remembers that Steinman was there and played the piano.
And I have no recollection of that. So weird...

Does anyone have the answer?

Ankie

14 Apr 2003, 23:23

Guppie,

On one of Meat's Music-DVD's is the last one:
Heaven can wait. Recorded in Rotterdam 1994.
Maybe you can see your answer right there.

Ankie.

Guppie

15 Apr 2003, 00:01

thanks, Ankie, I'll pass on your info!

ChoccyBat

15 Apr 2003, 00:19

Yeah I have that DVD too but dunno if its Jim on piano. Whoever it is is very good, brilliant performance.

White of High

15 Apr 2003, 01:18

My question: who is the performer of "Wasted Youth" on Live Around The World CD?

Shane

15 Apr 2003, 02:27

A friend of mine would like an answer to the following questions:
1. was Jim Steinman at the concert Meat did in Ahoy Rotterdam in 1994
2. Did he play the piano during "Heaven Can Wait"?

To answer question 1: I don't know, but there is a recording of Jim playing the piano for Heaven Can Wait (Meat introduces him) on Live Around The World. And it sounds to me like Jim performing Wasted Youth (to answer the other person's question).

sherrie87

15 Apr 2003, 02:36

I've always assumed it was Jim on that version of Wasted Youth, but I have to say thats my least favorite song on that CD. It seems to jar the flow of the rest of the CD, but that's just my opinion.

Sherrie

Jen

15 Apr 2003, 03:56

My question: who is the performer of "Wasted Youth" on Live Around The World CD?

The cd booklet says the narration was done by Jim.

Oriel

15 Apr 2003, 11:45

Sure you know by the sound of the voice it's Jim.
I presume it was recorded at the Beacon theatre theatre, and the time of the release of BatII.

Stephen.

Bart

15 Apr 2003, 12:56

Guppie

15 Apr 2003, 13:12

Yeah, was a great show, too bad I couldn't get arena tickets and had to sit in one of those seats (which I couldn't, fear of hights) so I stood on the first floor somewhere. :?

Alex

15 Apr 2003, 15:21

Its worth noting, Steve Buslowe I think it is (Bass PLayer with Bandana) did versions of Wasted Youth.... though... I think its Jim Steinman on the Live around the World CD, if only for the adlibs and when comparing it to "Teenager In Love" prologue to the Pandora Box album.

On live around the world, if that is the concert you went to, At the end of Dead Ringer, Meat Introduces:
"Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr Jim Steinman.... we'd like to do, Heaven Can Wait".

Then a wonderful redition, probably my favourite piano solo is that entire song. Could listen to it with or without the vocals. :) DVD "Classic Albums" has Heaven Can Wait at the end of it, is that from your concert? Think thats Mark Alexander (and Steve Buslowe on bass).

Bart

15 Apr 2003, 15:26

In 1994 some kind of guy with a beard and long hair did wasted youth.

dottie

15 Apr 2003, 16:07

Same subject - Did Jim Steinman play at Wembley with Meat in 1983?

Michel

16 Apr 2003, 22:44

A friend of mine would like an answer to the following questions:
1. was Jim Steinman at the concert Meat did in Ahoy Rotterdam in 1994
2. Did he play the piano during "Heaven Can Wait"?

To answer question 1: I don't know, but there is a recording of Jim playing the piano for Heaven Can Wait (Meat introduces him) on Live Around The World. And it sounds to me like Jim performing Wasted Youth (to answer the other person's question).

Jim wasn't playing the piano in Rotterdam.

Jim did Heaven Can Wait and Wasted Youth on Live Around The World, both recordings are recorded in New York september 1993.

Cult Of Byron

03 Apr 2006, 05:03

I don't suppose anyone knows of any decent avi/mpg's of said Beacon Theatre performances...?

rockfenris2005

03 Apr 2006, 07:45

Jim Steinman, 1983? I wasn't even aware they were talking at that time. Jim would have been busy with Nosferatu (incomplete musical) and Total Eclipse of the Heart.

Pudding

03 Apr 2006, 08:46

Jim Steinman, 1983? I wasn't even aware they were talking at that time. Jim would have been busy with Nosferatu (incomplete musical) and Total Eclipse of the Heart.

I'm always amazed how you throw random irrelevant facts into a topic and make out it has some relevance. Jim would have been busy in '83 with Bonnie Tyler, Air Supply and probably Streets of Fire.

But them aside, I think Cult Of Byron was referring to the Meat Loaf concert at Beacon Theatre in 1995. I have that but at this moment I have no way of sharing.

Pud :twisted:

rockfenris2005

03 Apr 2006, 10:18

sunneke

03 Apr 2006, 10:44

i was also in Rotterdam, and i am sure that it wasn't Jim Steinman. Great show!!!! i was there with a very good friend of mine who new meat loaf only from paradise. I gave here the music a week before the show began, because i thought: you gotta sing!!!! Well she did, louder than me! Since that day she and her 12 year old daughter are fans also.

Pudding

03 Apr 2006, 11:12

Accordng to an interview Jim Steinman worked on a musical of NOSFERATU which is where the song Total Eclipse Of The Heart originates (that and the second failed attempt to create BAT OUT OF HELL II in 1982)

WTF are you talking about? How the hell do you go from Steinman supposedly writing a musical called Nosferatu (links to article please or interview) to that being a second failed attempt at Bat Out Of Hell 2?

Pud :twisted:

Ankie

03 Apr 2006, 11:54

Guys..... please stay on topic....

Cult Of Byron

03 Apr 2006, 13:47

But them aside, I think Cult Of Byron was referring to the Meat Loaf concert at Beacon Theatre in 1995. I have that but at this moment I have no way of sharing.

Pud :twisted:

I'm referring to the concert where Jim played piano on Heaven Can Wait and Objects... I thought this was in 1993/94 to publicise Bat 2, although I could be wrong. If anyone knows for sure when this was and if it was ever broadcast/recorded then I'd love to do something about it.

vrg

03 Apr 2006, 17:41

I'm referring to the concert where Jim played piano on Heaven Can Wait and Objects... I thought this was in 1993/94 to publicise Bat 2, although I could be wrong. If anyone knows for sure when this was and if it was ever broadcast/recorded then I'd love to do something about it.

As mentioned, at the end of the Classic Albums dvd of Bat Out Of Hell, there is a clip from the Rotterdam concert where Meat does a heavenly rendition of "Heaven Can Wait" with the audience joining in. It looked like Mark Alexander was playing the piano for this. What Cult of Byron is looking for must be from another concert.

Cult Of Byron

04 Apr 2006, 00:50

Yes, it is the one that is featured on Live Around The World, with Jim playing on a grand piano with flames painted on the side (I have seen photo's of it). If anyone has a recording of these songs on video/dvd/movie file I'd be very grateful to hear from you.

Pudding

04 Apr 2006, 02:27

I've never heard of it being recorded on video or whatever, but I assume that it would.

Pud :twisted:

Cult Of Byron

04 Apr 2006, 03:29

I'm still trying to find out exactly when and where the audio version (Heaven and Objects) was recorded! I've got a feeling that it was a VH1 thingummy.

Diane

04 Apr 2006, 19:31

I'm still trying to find out exactly when and where the audio version (Heaven and Objects) was recorded! I've got a feeling that it was a VH1 thingummy.
I don't think there was ever a VH1 show with Jim accompanying Meat on those 2 songs. They were recorded, as Michel said earlier, at the Beacon Theatre on Broadway. Meat played 4 nights there on the 17th, 18th, 20th and 21st Sept. 1993. I can't remember if Jim accompanied Meat for those songs on all four nights. The only televised evidence I've ever seen was a short clip on one of the American news channels. Maybe more of that show was filmed ...... would be fantastic if that surfaced one day!

There was a buzz that Jim was going to appear on stage with Meat on some of the European dates during the 1993/94 tour. Sadly that never materialised but he did attend some of the shows.

Diane

Eva

04 Apr 2006, 22:09

If I can remember right there were two Live-Shows (or maybe just one?) in New York in July 1993.
On the singles from BAT II are these Live-Songs....

Love,
Eva

Diane

05 Apr 2006, 03:31

On the singles from BAT II are these Live-Songs....

Love,
Eva
Thanks for the reminder Eva. :D

I've just looked again at what I posted earlier about the 4 NY shows in 1993 and spotted that I said they were played at the Beacon Theatre. They were actually played at the Hudson Theatre. Sorry. :oops:

Part of the show was broadcast on the radio in America and "Objects" with Jim on piano was one of the songs.

Diane

Bart

05 Apr 2006, 16:53

As far as I know it was the first real live concert ever via satelite.

Pudding

06 Apr 2006, 03:14

What about Live Aid in 1985?

Pud :twisted:

Cult Of Byron

06 Apr 2006, 17:33

Thanks Diane, there is a dvd currently on sale on Ebay (although I suspect it is a video-to-DVD copy) called the History of Meat Loaf, I asked the seller direct whether the 2 songs feature Jim on piano and he said yes... am tempted to buy as there seems no other source for these recordings. But thanks for clearing the dates up for me!

Diane

06 Apr 2006, 20:30

Sounds like you're talking about the MTV History Of Meat Loaf show from 1993/4 (can't remember the date off the top of my head). If it is then it's Mark Alexander on piano.

Diane

Cult Of Byron

06 Apr 2006, 21:04

Thanks Diane, you've just saved me £9.49!

:wink: And you, Mr Meatloaf_unofficial, should be ashamed of your*illegal*self... (if you are the seller!)

Bart

06 Apr 2006, 23:38

What about Live Aid in 1985?

Pud :twisted:

No. This was a tv satelite broadcast throughout the USA one day before the release. It was unique.

Pudding

07 Apr 2006, 02:34

Wasn't Live Aid beamed around the world via satellite and couldn't people watch it on their TV's then? I'm failing to see the difference. Also, how long has MTV been up and running? I'm sure they must have shown a live concert or two pre 1993

Pud :twisted:

Bart

07 Apr 2006, 11:30

It was unique for promoting an album.

Diane

07 Apr 2006, 12:29

Do you mean the live link from LA when Meat sang "Anything For Love"? I watched Top Of The Pops especially to see this and it was just amazing. This was both before the album and video for AFL was released.

It was an unusual piece of marketing to release the album before the first single, but the strategy worked beautifully. :D

Diane