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TravisWRedfish
25 Jan 2006, 22:30
Hello everyone. This is my first post, so I don't know if this has been discussed before. I personally feel the best concert DVD Meat Loaf has ever given us fans was the "Live with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra" DVD from 2004. With Bat 3 to be released later this year, I was wondering if Meat will be planning to release another spectacular concert on DVD for us fans. As awesome as the Melbourne DVD was, I'm hoping (for the Bat 3 tour) he'll give us a spectacle to forever remember. One that will highlight the best of Bats 1, 2 and 3, plus his other greatest songs. May 2006 be the greatest year ever for Meat Loaf and his fans!

AndrewG
25 Jan 2006, 22:59
Welcome Travis to this site!

Your right the MSO DVD is pretty awesome. I think the show is fantastic which was filmed and the sound is great. My only negative point is the slightly blocky picture quality at times. Maybe a two disc version of the full show would have meant better quality, I'm not sure. However the magic of the show is more than fully captured and Meat did some amazing renditions of his songs if you ask me. The part when he stands in front of the band during the final note of Bat at the end (when the camera pans around him) brings tears to my eyes everytime! Such an emotional beautiful show!

Anyway I'm sure Meat will be back with a DVD very similar to what you suggested. I hope he may do some kind of multi dvd extravaganza covering all the songs from the three bats, but to be really honest I think he should include some of his lesser hits also. Many of his fans like songs from his other albums too I think so ideally we should have a 100 gb blu ray disc with absolutely every song captured from the next tour! Let's not forget a cohesive collection of his music videos! We can dream but in reality we can only wait to see what happens next. Damn I'm excited thinking about the possibilities!
:))

Moonlight shadow
25 Jan 2006, 23:23
I hope, Meat makes an "Bat Out Of Hell II" perfomed by orchestra.
And also, an Bat III. But before "Bat OOH II Live with xxxx Orchsetra :-P :-P
It would be exciting!!
Please, yes Meat. Yes.

Paul191
26 Jan 2006, 00:21
Hi Travis
I love the MSO dvd and I cannot wait for bat3. I really hope that he does bring out another dvd but not with an orchastra. He should just do it with his band alone and in front of a massive audience. That said, does anyone know how many people were in the audience over the two nights at the MSO concert?

Trudy67
26 Jan 2006, 06:15
I so love the MSO DVD as well. I do know of one guest who frequents here that was atleast in one of the audiences. Not sure but how many people fit but. Maybe she will have to join and tell us personally. LOL

My request for a new DVD was a copy of all the song that there are either live recordings or film clips for. From BOOH to Lawyers, Id Lie for you to Objects.

That would be my all time dream.

Bye For Now
Trudy
Esperance, Western Australia

RSG
26 Jan 2006, 13:29
If the man made another DVD, I would like to see it after Bat3. Its sorta like a promotion of Bat 3, after it sells its first 6 million;)

Just him and the band, ya that'd be cool. I feel there are just some songs he don't need to do them live again cause he aced alot on MSO!
I'd like to see another DVD Definetly:twisted:
Eagles did a 35 something tracklist for Melbourne, I'd like to see Meat do at least 15, excluding a few from MSO cause really only one song performed by Meat is enough at times, even if he hummed it:D

Keep rockin' Meat;)

rockfenris2005
26 Jan 2006, 14:15
If there's going to be a BAT 3 dvd, and they do commentary's on all the albums, Steinman would have to be involved too

RSG
26 Jan 2006, 19:18
Of course Ryan, having no Jim on the documentary is like grilled cheese, without the cheese. lol

Jeanie
26 Jan 2006, 19:23
I think it would be hard to beat the MSO dvd, although Meat does enjoy a challenge... :))

J.

Paul191
26 Jan 2006, 19:39
Does anyone know how many people were in the audience of the MSO concerts?

Space Monkey
27 Jan 2006, 22:00
Does anyone know how many people were in the audience of the MSO concerts?
I counted about thirty but then I get bored

TravisWRedfish
29 Jan 2006, 18:25
I love Meat's commentary track on the Melbourne DVD! He talks to us as if we were hanging out with him, just making little comments on anything and everything. I'll tell you, I've seen that DVD concert at least 20 times by now, and half of the time it's been to listen to Meat's commentary! We learned alot from that track...Did the editor have anymore shots of CC he forgot to use? ;) I hope Meat does more commentaries on future concerts he releases on DVD, they're definitely half the fun!

Vickip
29 Jan 2006, 19:44
I love Meat's commentary track on the Melbourne DVD! He talks to us as if we were hanging out with him, just making little comments on anything and everything. I'll tell you, I've seen that DVD concert at least 20 times by now, and half of the time it's been to listen to Meat's commentary! We learned alot from that track...Did the editor have anymore shots of CC he forgot to use? ;) I hope Meat does more commentaries on future concerts he releases on DVD, they're definitely half the fun!

Right you are :-)

The first time I watched it, I felt like I was right there in the room with him. I burst out laughing and kept wanting to say "would you be quiet about the vest ... you look great !" :lmao:

Vicki

Bat out of Friesland
02 Feb 2006, 11:58
Well, I don't have de DVD of the Melbourne Orchestra either, but I have de CD of it.
And I can say: It's the most beautiful cd of the world (to my opinion)
I want have the DVD as well, but I know it's very rare.

Caelan
02 Feb 2006, 15:58
check out the MEDIA MARKT in Groningen..it is available there

Trudy67
03 Feb 2006, 11:41
OK Guys I have it on reliable source , ie from one who was at the Rod Laver Arena (Rockette to be exact)that it holds on average 13,500 people for a concert and 15,000 for the tennis and the concert was a was a sellout.

Damn, MSO dvd has just finished playing, will have to go and press play again.
Bye For Now
Trudy

SuperLoafMan
03 Feb 2006, 21:31
Damn, MSO dvd has just finished playing,
The exact same here....:lol:

First time i watched it in say what 2 weeks...It just gets better and better everytime, I think Meat should be and probobly is proud of MSO and if he was to top it great but i think it is amazing....

Rockette
03 Feb 2006, 22:26
:oops: It would seem I have been badgered enough to pop in and respond. You are a gem Trudy! ;)

For some nagging reason, I seem to have the concert number as being 14,000 on the night I attended, but hey, 13,500 is quite impressive too. That particular venue has a vast variety of seating and staging options and I've seen most of them in use. The exception being a concert in the round, of course.

I just recall being overwhelmed by the sellout and by the seeming brevity of the event. Meat's concerts are all like that though. An express elevator to heaven, then the sudden plummet back to earth when it's all over in the twinkling of an eye. Thank heaven for the lingering tingle that remains to this day! :yay:

mikeloaf
03 Feb 2006, 23:10
Meats performance is awesome, no doubt about that. The thing that stands out for me about the MSO DVD is the crowd ( near the front ), are they made of stone? they look bored and uninterested most of the time ( Meat comments on this in the commentary ). As usual its the people middle/back who are up on their feet cheering loudest.

I once saw a TV interview ( ITV ? ) where Meats says he plays 'to the back' and I can see why!

MSO is a great DVD and a real archive. Mainly I play Lemon, Mercury, Testify, Frying pan through my stereo and I almost feel like I'm there!

I would love to hear Meat do a live CD of some kind post Bat 3. I'm not sure we will see another MSO style DVD but hopefully a Bat 3 collection.

Anything live from Meat would be good from my point of view. His live act is second to none.

aussielovesmeat
06 Feb 2006, 15:23
I agree with Trudy, I think it seats around 13-14,000 people. The DVD is simply awesome, I've watched it and rewatched it so many times.
I was one of the lucky ones to be there on the first night in Melbourne. Front row centre (one of the girls holding the Fireball banner). I've seen Meat in concert a few times now, but nothing like that one with the MSO!!!
He ROCKED!!! It was a night I will never forget!!!

Paul191
06 Feb 2006, 16:25
I've only seen Meat once but it was fantastic. I saw him a warwick castle and there were 16000 people!! It was amazing and I will definately see him if he comes back to the UK! As for the initial question, I think Meat can improve on the MSO because his concerts have just gotten better since his earlier ones. MSO was fantastic so it will be hard but i'm sure he can do it>

Pudding
06 Feb 2006, 20:14
Watched the MSO concert again yesterday and the question Can Meat Loaf top the "Live with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra" DVD? would give answer of, YES he can.

Imagine a Storytellers type of setting (a bit bigger) all acoustic and an orchestra in the background.

Pud :twisted:

Rockette
07 Feb 2006, 00:32
Pudding, as nice as it is to contemplate such a show, I think we all have to be realistic. Meat puts so much into his shows that we have to accept that he has to back off at some point in the future. Maybe his leaving us with his best live album to date (as indeed the MSO album is) would be a fitting way to bow out (as far as live albums/dvds go, that is.)

Pudding
07 Feb 2006, 00:52
Who's being un-realistic? :confused:

The question was Can Meat Loaf top the "Live with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra" DVD? note the DVD part at the end ;) I gave an example where I think he could top the MSO DVD. I never said performance or him running around the stage on all cylinders, but a better DVD.

Pud :twisted:

Rockette
07 Feb 2006, 01:39
Hey Pudding! Pack away your paranoia, will you? I wasn't on the attack, or saying you aren't realistic. Nor was I saying there wasn't going to be another dvd. I was simply saying it would put a lot of pressure on the man to be able to outdo the MSO dvd.

Anyone who knows me can tell you of my undying devotion to Meat, and as much as I would not like to see him give up performing, it's gonna happen one day. Has to.

Knowing Meat's desire to rise to any challenge, I don't see him doing just one show, from which he could compile another brilliant dvd. Rather, I think he'd go out there and nearly kill himself with a strenuous tour in the attempt to do another personal best.

Pudding
07 Feb 2006, 01:54
Who's being paranoid? I was just clarifying what the question asked was that's all, without throwing other factors into the equation.

Pud :twisted:

Rockette
07 Feb 2006, 02:16
Yeah, I saw what you were saying in the first place. My point is, and forgive me if I am giving the wrong impression, Meat's already done the Storytellers dvd. I loved that dvd, make no mistake about that.

I just felt, however, that Meat was nearly bursting out of his skin to really let it rip, much more than he was able to do in that limited medium. Give him an orchestra and a much more elaborate set and I reckon he'd die in the attempt to outdo what he's already done with the MSO dvd.

And then we all know that, just as Meat took the Storytellers show on the road, he will doubtless be inspired to do likewise with a new one. Get my drift now? :)

Pudding
07 Feb 2006, 02:51
Perhaps I'm being misunderstood and shouldn't have used Storytellers as an example.

Imagine Meat Loaf sat on a stool in an intimate surrounding or small venue (couple of hundred or so) with the band just playing acoustic (no electric guitars) and a small orchestra in the background. And Meat singing mainly ballad type songs, Heaven Can Wait, Read'Em & Weep, Surf's Up, For Crying Out Loud etc etc etc

This would be a purposely made DVD and would probably take several days to film. Wouldn't/couldn't that top live with the MSO?

I know what you're saying about taking shows on the road, but that wasn't part of the question. People like to indulge in a little fantasy scenario's now and again, that's all.

Pud :twisted:

Rockette
07 Feb 2006, 04:16
Sorry, Pudding. I totally missed your point. I answered the thread's original question of: Can Meat Loaf top the "Live with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra" DVD? I hadn't realised you had turned it into a fantasy. Silly me. Sorry for answering at all.

Pudding
07 Feb 2006, 05:07
Until something becomes a reality it's always a fantasy, so every single suggestion that could ever possibly have been suggested would be a fantasy to the individual.

So going on what you've said, I've now change my mind.

In under no circumstances whatsoever could 'Meat Loaf live with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra DVD' ever be topped. And any suggestion that it could, would either be unrealistic or just plain fantasy.

Furthermore: Meat Loaf would be foolhardy to try to even attempt such an endeavour, because as sad as it sounds, apparently his best has been and gone and there's no way I want to see Meat Loaf die whilst sitting on a stool in his attempt to try and outdo what he's already done with the MSO dvd. And God forbid, should Meat Loaf ever even think of doing a show that I've previously described, someone please tell him that he doesn't have to take it on the road but he could class it as a one off special, because it seems he just can't say no.

Pud :twisted:

Space Monkey
08 Feb 2006, 09:07
So going on what you've said, I've now change my mind.

In under no circumstances whatsoever could 'Meat Loaf live with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra DVD' ever be topped. And any suggestion that it could, would either be unrealistic or just plain fantasy.

Furthermore: Meat Loaf would be foolhardy to try to even attempt such an endeavour, because as sad as it sounds, apparently his best has been and gone and there's no way I want to see Meat Loaf die whilst sitting on a stool in his attempt to try and outdo what he's already done with the MSO dvd. And God forbid, should Meat Loaf ever even think of doing a show that I've previously described, someone please tell him that he doesn't have to take it on the road but he could class it as a one off special, because it seems he just can't say no.
True. Perhaps, given that the MSO performance can never be topped, should Meat just give up touring altogether? ;)

Personally, the MSO DVD could be better. I thought there could have been more extras. Specifically I think the second DVD could have had more on it.

TravisWRedfish
09 Feb 2006, 02:24
The DVD picture quality of the MSO show itself is inferior to that of Storytellers, or Greatest Hits. That is the only flaw the show really has. What I would love to see is a re-release of the MSO DVD, but with superb picture quality. This could be achieved by putting the commentary track, and/or one of the 5.1 tracks (DTS or Dolby) on a second disc, allowing for much less compression of the image quality. For those who don't understand this, take a look at how much better the picture quality is on the bonus disc of MSO than it is on the actual concert disc. A re-release of MSO with the picture quality being corrected to look as good as the bonus disc would make this DVD the best looking (as well as sounding) DVD Meat has ever produced.

mikeloaf
13 Feb 2006, 23:13
If you watch this DVD carefully you can see the change between the two dates. Look at Meats right hand, sometimes the ring is there sometimes it's not. It doesn't detract from the fact that this is a very good DVD, but once I noticed it....well it lost it edge a bit.

Bart
13 Feb 2006, 23:17
Look at his chewing gum. It is only during FCOl blue. I believe htat is the only song from the first nite.

mikeloaf
13 Feb 2006, 23:19
I've noticed that he has the ring off his right hand at the start of paradise then its back at the end.

Bart
13 Feb 2006, 23:26
I am gonna check that out tomorrow.

mikeloaf
13 Feb 2006, 23:27
I watched it today, it happens!

Steve6
22 Feb 2006, 15:14
Performing with an orchestra should have been done many years.

I didnít think his vocals were good at all. He did the do the best version of ďPARADISEĒ Iíve ever heard. But the rest was average enough. Heís refusing to sing right thatís the real problem.

Heís ruining all the songs singing them live, especially AFL. Will he ever sing the whole song, and stop skipping through it.

Stop trying to sing and just sing Mr. Loaf.

I also donít like being lied to.

AndyK
22 Feb 2006, 17:01
Performing with an orchestra should have been done many years.

Agreed

I didnít think his vocals were good at all. He did the do the best version of ďPARADISEĒ Iíve ever heard. But the rest was average enough. Heís refusing to sing right thatís the real problem.
Depends on your point of view. Meats voice has changed completely over the 30+ years he's been recording and certainly in the near enough 20 years I've been seeing him live. I can't think of anyone who's voice doesn't change over time, it's called maturing I beleive.



Heís ruining all the songs singing them live, especially AFL. Will he ever sing the whole song, and stop skipping through it.
Bit of a mixture here Steve, jumping from the MSO DVD to the more recent tour. But I'll humour you, apart from on the Hair Of The Dog tour he has done, to the best of my knowledge anyway. On the HotD tour it's well documented that Meat and the band were restricted to the length of the concert because of insurance reasons, as such AFL was a cut down version, but to be honest IMO I don't think it really suffered too much live because of that.


Stop trying to sing and just sing Mr. Loaf.

Disagree with you on that, Meat is a darn sight older than he was 30 yrs, 20 yrs or even 5 yrs ago, of course he's going to sound different. Does Mick Jagger sound the same as he did in the 60's, 70's, 80's or 90's? Either live or on record? I don't think so.

I also donít like being lied to.
No, neither do I. Nor do I like paying taxes or eating coconut. So who has been lying to you? You can tell Uncle Andy :mrgreen:

Steve6
22 Feb 2006, 17:27
Moving around the stage, and trying to be a 21 year old again cleary isn't working. Also why does he violently shake his hand when he tries to hit high notes. He hasn't been doing that all his career. That can't help him in anyway.

LucyK!
22 Feb 2006, 17:29
Heís refusing to sing right thatís the real problem.


Have you honestly just posted that Meat Loaf is refusing to sing right?

Why on earth would he "refuse to sing right"? Especially for a DVD that's the first he's released in years? I've never heard anything so ridiculous.

Paul191
22 Feb 2006, 17:47
I agree Lucy! Meat's voice has simply matured over the years, and it's hard singing songs that a 30 year old tenor should be singing when your 60 years old! Meat is a fine singer, one of the best even by todays standards.

As for the hand shaking, when Meat gets caught in the moment during his performances he just happens to shake his hand. It's as simple as that. It's not because he is trying to reach the high notes because he can do that just fine.

LucyK!
22 Feb 2006, 17:51
I don't think it matters why he does the hand shaking thing - if he feels comfortable doing it then it's not a problem!

Paul191
22 Feb 2006, 18:05
Every one is for one reason only. They like/love Meat Loaf. If you don't like Meat then the least you can do is explain your obscure opinions and back them up with some real evidence.

Steve6
22 Feb 2006, 19:32
Removed.

R.
22 Feb 2006, 19:34
Enough. You post this crap again and I'll ban you permanently. IS THAT CLEAR?

Steve6
22 Feb 2006, 19:40
Yeah...No need to lose the head though, we are all in this together.

I like to make my feelings known that's all. Like everyone else.

That's what a forum is for.

Pudding
22 Feb 2006, 20:02
Moving around the stage, and trying to be a 21 year old again cleary isn't working.

I fail to see how it can't be working if he's selling out concert halls?

Pud :twisted:

Steve6
22 Feb 2006, 20:04
TRUE....... :D :up:

But the MSO wasn't a sell out. I saw plenty of empty spaces at the back. Correct me if I'm wrong.

But I also heard people criticise how he sung BOOH and AFL. They said it didn't sound right.

But I agree with you Pud....You got me there...LOL

Paul191
22 Feb 2006, 20:12
steve, it was a sell out. Every concert was a sell out. There are empty seats every concert you go too. Maybe due to people not arriving (something important may have popped up in there life) or due to moving of seat (e.g. to the standing areas of the concert).

Every sell out concert i have been to in my life including Meats there has always been empty seats.

Steve6
22 Feb 2006, 20:16
Ok maybe you're right. But it just looked empty at the back thats all. My mistake.

PanicLord
22 Feb 2006, 20:52
Personally I think the MSO DVD and CDs feature the best live singing Meat Loaf has ever done. And that's saying something!

His voice sounds great and he belts those songs out. How the hell does someone of ANY age sing BOOH that well after god knows how many hours of live singing of difficult, challenging, emotional songs, night after night, month after month on tour? I sure as hell wish I knew.

I've heard some recordings from the Bat years and early 80s, and he really sounds like his voice is wrecked on some of them, not a patch on how he sings live today.

As to whether it could be topped - well, I suppose the picture is a bit pants every now and again, but the sound quality is magnificent. And for me at least, if they have to make a quality sacrifice I'd rather it was in the picture than in the sound. It is after all a music dvd - I realise that you pay so you can also SEE the concert - but the picture is not THAT bad!

The only thing I think that would make a very special addition (other than Bat 3 songs of course!) would be to see some of the rarer songs (IGLHFBOU, REAW, ILFYATTT, etc) performed live. I asked him to do that for me when I welcomed him back to the site earlier this year, so I am sure it's only a matter of time!:lol:

Incidentally, please go and add your welcome back (topic = Welcome Back Meat!) - let's really make him feel welcome here and make him stay! It is such a rare and exciting gift for fans to be able to communicate with the artists they... um... fan at?!!??

Right. That's probably enough from me for now. Someone else have a go! :cool:

Paul191
22 Feb 2006, 21:10
i agree, but for me the only bad thing was the bonus disk. I just wish there was more. It was very funny anyways and i loved it.

LucyK!
22 Feb 2006, 21:14
The only "complaint" I could make, and it isn't even a complaint really - I'd have loved Rock and Roll Dreams to be on there.

But regardless it's my all time favourite, fabulous!

Paul191
22 Feb 2006, 21:16
Yeh me too, i also wnated to see modern girl on there because ive heard that it is awesome live.

Steve6
22 Feb 2006, 21:16
I thought Storytellers was his best DVD.

I would have liked "I'd LIE FOR YOU (and thats the truth) to be on it.

Vickip
22 Feb 2006, 21:28
The only "complaint" I could make, and it isn't even a complaint really - I'd have loved Rock and Roll Dreams to be on there.

But regardless it's my all time favourite, fabulous!

Like you, it's my all time favorite DVD ... the sound quality is amazing, and to be perfectly honest, I've never noticed any problems with the picture. I love the extras and commentary .. and wouldn't change a thing :-)

Although I would have loved to have seen Did I Say That or Rock and Roll Dreams included, seeing For Crying Out Loud makes up for it. I still get emotional every time I watch or listen to it. Absolutely incredible :-)

Vicki

Vickip
22 Feb 2006, 21:30
Personally I think the MSO DVD and CDs feature the best live singing Meat Loaf has ever done. And that's saying something!

His voice sounds great and he belts those songs out. How the hell does someone of ANY age sing BOOH that well after god knows how many hours of live singing of difficult, challenging, emotional songs, night after night, month after month on tour? I sure as hell wish I knew.



I couldn't agree more :))
Vicki

LucyK!
22 Feb 2006, 21:31
I was about to post that exact thing - I would sacrifice the entire DVD if I was allowed to keep For Crying Out Loud, without doubt, gets the goosebumps out every time!

Paul191
22 Feb 2006, 21:33
For crying out loud is the highlight of the whole DVD. It is just so emotional and what an outstanding performance from the man himself.

Steve6
22 Feb 2006, 21:36
FCOL was good. But why doesn't he do "OBJECTS" anymore. He has given up doing that live. I saw a clip of him singing the song... and he started crying. Is it too emotional for him?

I would have liked to hear it on the DVD.

DIZZY DRUMMER
22 Feb 2006, 21:41
YES

Meat is a perfectionist - if this is the last Bat project - then he will give 200% to make it bigger & better.

He will go out in a bang - make no mistake of that

Paul191
22 Feb 2006, 21:43
why doesn't he do "OBJECTS" anymore. He has given up doing that live. I saw a clip of him singing the song... and he started crying. Is it too emotional for him?

I agree steve, i love objects, especially the version on 'live around the world'. I would have love to have heard it with an orchastra. That would be great.:-P

mikeloaf
22 Feb 2006, 22:11
There is editing of songs in this DVD but it is easy to watch it as if you were really at a live concert. The best thing about it is that it isn't like a CD sound track. It doesn't surprise me at all that after 2 hours+ he doesn't sing BOOH 'right' that for me is the whole point of going to ( or watching ) a live concert. If there was anymore it a shame it doesn't show more of Meats interaction with the crowd and the band.

I had always wanted to hear crying out loud with an Orchestra. I would have loved to have been there and AFL and CHSIB also benefit hughly from this. I think that everyone involved from Meat down can be very proud of this DVD.

Should he do another? YES and soon!

SuperLoafMan
22 Feb 2006, 22:16
Should he do another? YES and soon!
Really, Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself ;)

mikeloaf
22 Feb 2006, 23:40
I understand the hand shaking is a nerve thing. I notice the more into the song and the more intense he seem the more he shakes. Also it seems to ressonate the sound, which sound good. There is alot of passion going into those performances. We take it for granted, it's hard work I think!

Vickip
22 Feb 2006, 23:47
For crying out loud is the highlight of the whole DVD. It is just so emotional and what an outstanding performance from the man himself.

Exactly :))
Vicki

Jeanie
23 Feb 2006, 00:43
And lets not forget... that Meat made the MSO dvd, not long after a major health issue, which most mortals would NOT have been able to accomplish. That in itself, deserves high praise imho.
For me, the MSO dvd is "perfect", I have no qualms with picture or sound quality, and Meat's voice sounds awesome, imo. And like some others have said, it would have been well worth the money, just to hear Meat sing FCOL, alone.

J.

Steve6
23 Feb 2006, 00:47
And lets not forget... that Meat made the MSO dvd, not long after a major health issue, which most mortals would NOT have been able to accomplish. That in itself, deserves high praise imho.
J.

I was just thinking about that...Errr I am so mad at myself. :mad: I am so stupid...I take all the criticism I've given to Meat back...SORRY MEAT...I regret it.

LucyK!
23 Feb 2006, 17:37
To be honest though if you'd have shown me that DVD and I didn't know what had gone on health wise I would never have known.

Steve6
23 Feb 2006, 18:12
When he was singing the last part of FCOL, he looked like he was gonna collapse. Or have a breakdown. It looked a bit scary.

"Oh you know, you know, you know, OH YOU GOT TO KNOW......GOD YOU GOT TO KNOW...pant....pant..pant....that iiiiii love......oh I love you"

After that I thought he was gonna hit the floor?

Was anyone at the concert he collapsed at?

Sue K
23 Feb 2006, 18:16
When he was singing the last part of FCOL, he looked like he was gonna collapse. Or have a breakdown. It looked a bit scary.

"Oh you know, you know, you know, OH YOU GOT TO KNOW......GOD YOU GOT TO KNOW...pant....pant..pant....that iiiiii love......oh I love you"

After that I thought he was gonna hit the floor?

Was anyone at the concert he collapsed at?

Steve6 ...

imo .. that's called passion... when i watch him sing FCOL on the MSO dvd.. seated there.. he is.. and then suddenly.. unable to contain himself any longer.. and coming off that stool ???... my heart swells and my throat closes.. as i've never seen anything as beautiful as the passion expressed by 'Imself at that moment in time...

anyone else???

tink..

Steve6
23 Feb 2006, 18:20
Oh yeah there sure is passion there alright. That's what made him famous in the first place.

Pudding
23 Feb 2006, 20:45
Oh yeah there sure is passion there alright. That's what made him famous in the first place.

Nothing to do with Meat having a funny name, weighing over 300 lbs and having a phenomenal album then?

Pud :twisted:

Sue K
23 Feb 2006, 21:36
Nothing to do with Meat having a funny name, weighing over 300 lbs and having a phenomenal album then?

Pud :twisted:

true.. the world was ready for something/ someone / music wonderfully different and unique.. as at that point in time ears were glazing over from disco...

does anyone remember what they were listening to prior to the release of BOOH 1?

anyone ??

Pudding
23 Feb 2006, 21:42
does anyone remember what they were listening to prior to the release of BOOH 1?

anyone ??

The Muppet Show

Pud :twisted:

Sue K
23 Feb 2006, 21:44
The Muppet Show

Pud :twisted:

which episode ???... :twisted: ...

Ben
23 Feb 2006, 21:47
Was anyone at the concert he collapsed at?


Yes

jcmoorehead
23 Feb 2006, 21:50
true.. the world was ready for something/ someone / music wonderfully different and unique.. as at that point in time ears were glazing over from disco...

does anyone remember what they were listening to prior to the release of BOOH 1?

anyone ??

I wasn't around in the 70s, but I can imagine the album would have started with the word "Dark" and ended with the word "Moon"

On topic, I'd hope to see a DVD to go with a Bat 3 tour, I'd also like to see some of his older stuff released on DVD aswel though, especially if its got a live version of Objects on as other people have said.

Steve6
23 Feb 2006, 22:20
Nothing to do with Meat having a funny name, weighing over 300 lbs and having a phenomenal album then?

Pud :twisted:

Nope.

You go back to the very beginning and if it wasn't for Meat's passion and determination, there was no Bat 1.

Jim Steinman never wanted to make an album. Meat convinced him. That was the reason the album was made.

Name: NO
Weight: NO.

He got there because he wasn't scared, and he didn't care what anyone else thought.

Vickip
23 Feb 2006, 22:44
Steve6 ...

imo .. that's called passion... when i watch him sing FCOL on the MSO dvd.. seated there.. he is.. and then suddenly.. unable to contain himself any longer.. and coming off that stool ???... my heart swells and my throat closes.. as i've never seen anything as beautiful as the passion expressed by 'Imself at that moment in time...

anyone else???

tink..

Exactly right tink .... you describe it perfectly :-)
Vicki

Jeanie
23 Feb 2006, 22:55
To be honest though if you'd have shown me that DVD and I didn't know what had gone on health wise I would never have known.


I agree Lucy, if I'd not known Meat had recently been ill, when the MSO dvd/cd were made, I would have no idea, he was ever sick at all.. as he did an outstanding job of the project, imho.

J.

Vickip
23 Feb 2006, 22:59
On topic, I'd hope to see a DVD to go with a Bat 3 tour, I'd also like to see some of his older stuff released on DVD aswel though, especially if its got a live version of Objects on as other people have said.

Definitely :))

As long as it includes a commetary .... I really enjoy listening to Meat talk about the songs and the show. I just wish he wouldn't keep harping on about the vest :lmao:

Vicki

Vickip
23 Feb 2006, 23:00
I agree Lucy, if I'd not known Meat had recently been ill, when the MSO dvd/cd were made, I would have no idea, he was ever sick at all.. as he did an outstanding job of the project, imho.

J.

Right you are Jeanie and Lucy
Vicki

Steve6
23 Feb 2006, 23:01
I am putting my hands up an admitting, I was wrong to criticise Meatís vocals. I forgot about the whole collapsing on stage incident. But this should have been done years ago. Why wasnít it?

It would have been better, at least agree with that.

Pudding
23 Feb 2006, 23:05
I am putting my hands up an admitting, I was wrong to criticise Meatís vocals. I forgot about the whole collapsing on stage incident. But this should have been done years ago. Why wasnít it?

It would have been better, at least agree with that.

Are you saying it would have been better if Meat collapsed on stage years ago?......charming I'm sure :roll:

Pud :twisted:

Vickip
23 Feb 2006, 23:07
I am putting my hands up an admitting, I was wrong to criticise Meatís vocals. I forgot about the whole collapsing on stage incident. But this should have been done years ago. Why wasnít it?

It would have been better, at least agree with that.

I don't know why it wasn't done before .... maybe they never had the opportunity:??:

But no, in my opinion, it would not have been better. So let's just agree to disagree ... and leave it at that.

Vicki

Steve6
23 Feb 2006, 23:36
I disagree with you Vickip :D

Ah I'm only messing around love :-P Everyone has there own opinion and I do respect yours ;) I swear :-)

Bart
24 Feb 2006, 08:56
In a dutch newspaper the dvd was critized a lot (not about the vocals btw). I wrote a letter that Meat had a lot of courage to record that dvd because his tour was a real disaster. In november 2003 he was so ill, you won't believe it. if you would have seen him on stage, well it was real painfull to watch but Meat was determined and let all the shows continue till the "rock till you drop" disaster at Wembley and the surgery afterwards.
2 months later he recorded the show. Who would do that? He propably had lost all his confidence but he just did it and the vocals were great. How you can critize these vocals is beyond me. Okay the sound is not larger than life no more but still nobody can sing like he does.

LucyK!
24 Feb 2006, 09:25
I don't think "better" is the word to use, it would have been different. I don't know about anyone else but I often find myself - subconsciously! -breaking his career into "bits" - like I'm watching Bat Out Of Hell Meat or Bat II Meat, possibly because his image and his voice have changed so much? I don't know why I do it...

So, to me, the MSO DVD is CHSIB Meat!

Hypnobabe
24 Feb 2006, 10:13
does anyone remember what they were listening to prior to the release of BOOH 1?

anyone ??

Well as I was about 3 when it was released, The Magic Roundabout mostly... lol :lol:

mikeloaf
25 Feb 2006, 00:30
Meat was spectacular on stage in Nov 2003. The one thing Meat does best is give 100% and much more. Few people in the crowd I was in could ever have known he was that ill. His collapse was a real shock.

He does look exhausted on the DVD at the end, but the enregy and passion he puts in would always lead to that. Very wise of him to cut the shows to 1hr 45 mins.

Paul191
25 Feb 2006, 00:36
Nope.

You go back to the very beginning and if it wasn't for Meat's passion and determination, there was no Bat 1.

Jim Steinman never wanted to make an album. Meat convinced him. That was the reason the album was made.

Name: NO
Weight: NO.

He got there because he wasn't scared, and he didn't care what anyone else thought.
Agree totally Steve!:up:

Vickip
25 Feb 2006, 00:48
He does look exhausted on the DVD at the end, but the enregy and passion he puts in would always lead to that. Very wise of him to cut the shows to 1hr 45 mins.

Absolutely right. Meat's level of energy is truly amazing ... I'm always exhausted by the time the concert is over :-) I would much rather see him do shorter shows, have fun and stay healthy like he did during the HOTD tour this past summer :))

Vicki

Kathy
25 Feb 2006, 03:52
I don't think "better" is the word to use, it would have been different.

I think so, too.. actually I think it would have been wonderful if he could have performed with an orchestra back then - as long as he would have still gone ahead and released the MSO DVD when he did - I'd like to have both :lol: ...BUT - if I had to choose, I'd rather have the 2004 version! No question.
-Kathy

Steve6
25 Feb 2006, 19:07
Agree totally Steve!:up:

Thanks dude :cool:

The first rounds are on the house :cheers:
I want to dance my pance off too. :yay: :cheer:
Anyway stay cool, and do plenty of chilling out.

Rock on brother....;-)

PrissLoaf
26 Feb 2006, 03:06
I :heart: the MSO DVD and have watched it dozens of times.

Storytellers was my favorite until MSO was released, and I still think it's a fabulous show.
Two different approaches, but both wonderful showcases of the man and his music.

(I'm greedy though, and wish MSO was a multi disc set :)))

Pudding
26 Feb 2006, 03:21
What else would you want in a multi discs set, if already you've got the concert on one disc and then some funny interview type stuff on another disc?

Pud :twisted:

TravisWRedfish
28 Feb 2006, 20:18
What else would you want in a multi discs set, if already you've got the concert on one disc and then some funny interview type stuff on another disc?

Pud :twisted:

I would love to see a 3 or 4 disc set that shows the ENTIRE UNCUT concert on night #1 and another disc for night #2. Also, the picture quality on the bonus disc is far better than it is on the actual concert disc. I know this is due to compression, so that we could have the Dolby 5.1, DTS, and commentary tracks all on the same disc, but picture quality should never be compromised in order to squeeze such extras. I'd love just 1 disc dedicated to the best picture quality possible and only the DTS track which sounds awesome! The other tracks should be released on a separate disc. I'm not sure, but I think the whole concert was shot on high definition, which means we may eventually see a re-release of these discs in the HD-DVD or Blu-Ray high definition format. Then it'll look like we're actually in the audience! I can't wait!!!

Sue K
28 Feb 2006, 21:17
... i'd like to see a single dvd of Meat's performance of Black Betty... it could be sold through his official fan club site..or something like that..i don't care..i'd just like to have that..that's all... i thought he was really HOTcha when he did that at the concert i attended.. and i'd love to have a dvd of it to watch whenever i'd like...

Pudding
28 Feb 2006, 21:24
As far as I'm aware, there's never ever been a multi-disc DVD released where it shows the same concert from two seperate nights, it's not a selling point. The 2 disc DVD is more than enough and if Meat was going to release any more DVD's then perhaps he should do one for HOTD concert, Bat1 concert, Bat2 concert or a complete video hits.

Pud :twisted:

Sue K
28 Feb 2006, 21:28
... i'd like one from the HOTD tour...

Vickip
28 Feb 2006, 22:42
... i'd like to see a single dvd of Meat's performance of Black Betty... it could be sold through his official fan club site..or something like that..i don't care..i'd just like to have that..that's all... i thought he was really HOTcha when he did that at the concert i attended.. and i'd love to have a dvd of it to watch whenever i'd like...

I second that tink :))
Vicki

Vickip
28 Feb 2006, 22:45
... i'd like one from the HOTD tour...

You and me both tink
Vicki

TravisWRedfish
01 Mar 2006, 18:03
As far as I'm aware, there's never ever been a multi-disc DVD released where it shows the same concert from two seperate nights, it's not a selling point.
Pud :twisted:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00025L4JO/qid=1141235363/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0434575-0758328?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130

The Elvis Aloha From Hawaii concert 2 disc set contains the complete warmup concert for the actual show, the complete concert from the day the show was televised, and also the complete show as it aired across the world. The Elvis '68 Comeback Special (Deluxe Edition DVD) is a 3 disc set with dozens of never before seen outtakes. So I'm sure if the distribution companies think that Meat fans will pay a little extra for similar, previously unseen Meat extras, we may eventually get them released as well. I know I'd gladly pay extra for unseen concert footage from the Melbourne show. I'm sure many others would as well. Only time, however, will tell whether we ever get these extras released or not. Hopefully we will...one day.

Pudding
01 Mar 2006, 21:40
I know I'd gladly pay extra for unseen concert footage from the Melbourne show. I'm sure many others would as well. Only time, however, will tell whether we ever get these extras released or not. Hopefully we will...one day.

I have no doubts some people would pay for extra for extra footage, but I personally fail to see the viable selling point of it, when there's a truck load of other DVD's options Meat could sell that would have a huge selling point.

Pud :twisted:

Sue K
01 Mar 2006, 22:05
... i know there's sales figures available for BOOH1 and BOOH2 records/ cassettes / cds... but are there figures available for the sales of the dvds/ videos BOOH: Hits from Hell...think it was called... BOOH: The Picture Show and the MSO dvd??

anyone?