Dead Ringer Movie [Archive] - mlukfc.com Forums

Tim

31 Oct 2002, 19:24

Does anyone know where you can get the Video or DVD: Dead Ringer, the movie with Meat Loaf in it?

Or maybe anyone has seen it, and knows if it is worth watching / buy it. Hopefully someone can help me.

And the same question for the musical More Than You Deserve, has someone seen it, or have it on cd (as audio) or videotape / DVD?

I'm very curious about them.

Shane

23 Nov 2002, 12:24

I don't think the Dead Ringer movie is available for rental or purchase anywhere. As far as I know, it has only shown at a couple of film festivals. Meat talks about it in his biography.

Someone on the Dream Pollution message board (or associated list) should be able to tell you more about the More Than You Deserve musical.

Meatles

23 Nov 2002, 17:31

There is a small clip from "Dead Ringer" on another Meat Loaf website - it is brief, but maybe the site owner has a copy of it?

Tim

24 Nov 2002, 20:28

Meatles

24 Nov 2002, 23:27

Hi Tim

I can't recall the specific URL, But I know it is in the video clip section on

www.republic-of-loafdom.com/

It is quite brief - 10-20 seconds.

I do have most of Meat Loafs movies, except "Gunshy" and the new 2002 releases. I believe I have 24 or so Meat Loaf movies.

I am now searching for Meats appearance in "Monsters" and "Odd Couple".

Tim

25 Nov 2002, 08:14

Meatles,

I do have Gunshy. It is a beautifull movie, very nice. Only Meat Loaf is in it for one scene. That's a pitty, but a very good scene :lol:

Still, this movie is worth buying.

Meatles

25 Nov 2002, 21:20

Thanks for the info Tim

I was curious about how long is the Meat scene in Gunshy? I heard it was around 2 minutes.

Also, Does Meat beat someone up?

Tim

26 Nov 2002, 09:16

That scene with Meat Loaf is pretty cool. He beat someone up, but offcourse, in the end he is the victim. Well, not really, he is sort of a bad guy, offcourse.

rockfenris2005

16 Feb 2003, 13:41

Tim

16 Feb 2003, 16:42

I have all the songs from the stage production of MORE THAN YOU DESERVE, and I might be getting the complete show in MP3 format.
You can hear the songs at: w3.one.net/~smeghead/meat/musicals.htm.
I also have a 3CD set of THE DREAM ENGINE, as well as the entire live recording of THE CONFIDENCE MAN.

The Dream Engine do i have also. Great musical. But about the More Than You Deserve show, can you sent me a PM or mail (treppihcs@hotmail.com)about it, cause i'm very interested in that one!! If you are willing to sell / trade it with me ofcourse.

Vickip

16 Feb 2003, 16:58

Thanks Meatles, do you also happen to know which page? I know, it's the easy way to ask, in stead of going to find out on my own :lol:

I thought maybe you have got it, with your huge ML collection :lol:

Hi !

Here's the direct link for the Dead Ringer video clip :
http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/Media/Video/Movies/Movies.htm

I wish I had the movie :))) They were playing it in the background during an interview Meat did, and I was able to get a small clip from it. So far we have clips from all of his movies, along with a lot of television episodes, live concerts and interviews. Hope you enjoy them !!

Vicki Pearson

Dave

25 May 2003, 01:56

Shadows On The Wall

11 Jul 2003, 20:50

Ive searched high and low for this video, ive never seen it, - it cant be bought anywhere, from manufactuers either, best bet is ebay, but it comes up once in a blue moon.

Sorry im not much help

Tim

13 Jul 2003, 17:51

I still hope they will release that movie... or maybe by an MLUKFC offer or something like it.... Dead Ringer Movie... must be find somewhere!!!

Cathie

13 Jul 2003, 23:06

I really want to see "Dead Ringer" the movie and More Than You Deserve. Tried the website link but it didn't work :( I'm gonna try again later and see if it will be nice to me...

Evan

14 Jul 2003, 21:36

Apparently Meat's managers at the time, David Sonenberg and Al Delentash added scenes into the movie which lacked of any sense what so ever. Meat got up and left halfway through during a screening for CBS executive. I'd love to see the film, but I bet it's really stupid, however, I don't think it could be any worse then "From Justin To Kelly".

Asha

15 Jul 2003, 16:16

I would rather see the movie as it was before sonnenberg and delentash got their hands on it.
I read that was quite good.....until indeed those two laid hands on it..

But still, I would love to see either...

Asha

Evan

15 Jul 2003, 16:17

Yeah apparently it showed at the Toronto Film Festival and actually got good reviews! Hopefully it will surface one day.

Tim

25 Jul 2003, 21:31

But.... has anyone got the movie??? Still looking for it. And also for To Catch A Yeti.

Where can i find them / trade them / buy them?

Any info is welcome!

The Butcher.

Asha

25 Jul 2003, 21:33

Sorry Tim, I wish I could help you out there........ :(

Asha

Tim

25 Jul 2003, 21:35

Sorry Tim, I wish I could help you out there........ :(

Asha

I emailed somebody about To Catch a Yeti, but still no reply. And about Dead Ringer.... man.... can Meat Loaf himself help us out??? Meat Loaf, could you please help us?

The Butcher.

Shane

26 Jul 2003, 10:09

Bart

29 Jul 2003, 12:24

That silly ~~~~~~~ of a Sonenberg is also on the Classic Albums DVD. He really looks like a Moneymaker. Never undrestand why he still was Steinmans manager for years after that.

PrissLoaf

25 Nov 2005, 06:13

Hi, does anyone know where I could find a copy of this? Thanks very much :D

Pudding

25 Nov 2005, 06:26

Short answer; you can't :| IT's never been officially released :(

I'm sure someone somewhere has it and if they do, I'm willing to convert it to DVD and send it to whoever wants it ;)

Pud :twisted:

PrissLoaf

25 Nov 2005, 08:13

thanks Pud.

I should've known you would have the answer! :)

I'm new to the forums (but not the music) and have read a lot of informative posts by you (over at Rockman too).

Pudding

25 Nov 2005, 08:45

have read a lot of informative posts by you (over at Rockman too).

Oh dear :shock: Take no notice of half my mad rambles over at Rockman :nag: most people over there are a bit nucking futs :nuts:

Pud :twisted:

PrissLoaf

26 Nov 2005, 09:09

ROFL! The best was about Steinman being a kitten :retard:

Pudding

26 Nov 2005, 09:18

You're talking about Susan! She appeared out on nowhere and started rambling on about Jim Steinman being a cat :shock: that's what promted the board being changed to a registered one if you want to post. By all accounts this Susan's ISP traced back to California, who'd have though she came from the land of fruits and nuts :nuts:

Pud :twisted:

PrissLoaf

26 Nov 2005, 09:42

:lmao: yep, that's the one. ~~~ meeeowww ~~~

thanks for the info on Rockman. I'd probably be in over my head over there. I think Jim is a phenomenal writer, but I don't know as much background info as a lot of the others :oops:

dottie

26 Nov 2005, 19:25

I have a copy of the video on a TV programme (cann't remember which) video tape, just need to find which one of the 100 hours I have!

I hope to be in receipt of a DVD/video recorder for Xmas so if you can hold on that long - I'll willing search it out for you and place on DVD.... :-)

Pudding

26 Nov 2005, 22:20

So you actually have the Dead Ringer movie? not concert but the actual movie - holy crapsticks :shock: If you can convert it to DVD, I don't mind running off some copies and shipping them out. However, if you've been naught this year and Santa doesn't give you a DVD/Video recorder, I know some people who could convert it for you and I'd still run off some copies and ship them out.

Pud :twisted:

dottie

27 Nov 2005, 13:01

yep thats correct Pud, taped it off the tv years ago (top of the pops If I recall) this is the one isn't it.... just need to locate it amongst the tapes I have and hey presto father christmas is going to buy me the means to do it:D Just hang on in there folks......

Elijah's way

27 Nov 2005, 15:25

I would love to get ahold of a copy, lemme know if this happens.

dottie

27 Nov 2005, 21:07

Well I've found it - and just want to confirm it is the Dead Ringer Video with Cher we're all talking about isn't it?

Lucky for me it was on the VH1 Meat Loaf Day.......

Can some one confirm regarding above please..........

Vickip

27 Nov 2005, 21:49

I think they're talking about the movie called "Dead Ringer" that Meat filmed in 1981, not the music video he filmed with Cher. The movie itself was never officially released.

Vicki

dottie

27 Nov 2005, 21:53

I think they're talking about the movie called "Dead Ringer" that Meat filmed in 1981, not the music video he filmed with Cher. The movie itself was never officially released.

Vicki

Oh my god so :oops: but I might still have it will spend some time ploughing through over 100 hors of vieo tape to see if I do have it lurking somewhere.

RockingBat

29 Nov 2005, 10:04

For those who've seen is... what exactly was the movie about? Was it a full fledged movie with a story and all or just one of those short ones regarding the song/album, but a bit more than a music video.

Pudding

29 Nov 2005, 11:33

Somebody on IMDB.com has given a review of the film, which I will kindly cut and paste here.

Dead Ringer is a combination of real concert footage mixed with a fantasy story line, revolving around the immense and immensely popular singer. Meat Loaf & Jim Steinman fans will certainly derive the biggest pleasure from this film.

Meat Loaf's first album, ''Bat Out of Hell,'' was a mega-success, selling more than 11 million copies. This large, talented, sweaty singer hit the scene like a tank out of hell and the fans loved him. Now, several years later and about to go on the road again to promote his new album, Meat Loaf starts to feel the stress of success. His production office looks like a war zone and none of his ''people'' are listening to him. His two agents are either on the phone or playing Space Invaders (remember that?) while pretending to be taking meetings. Meanwhile, his manager keeps booking Meat Loaf for interview after interview, slowly driving the singer insane. The highlight of the film, in fact, is MacIntyre Dixon, who plays Ernie Weaver, a slightly vacuous, enormously patient New York interviewer trying to discover the true ingredients of this Meat Loaf, and believing every false word his subject tells him.

Elsewhere, seemingly in some perpendicular universe, are Russell (Josh Mostel) and his nerdy brother, Marvin (Meat Loaf), who not surprisingly bears an uncanny resemblance to his idol, Meat Loaf. It seems that Marvin never talks, but he can belt out a Meat Loaf tune as well as the original. When they learn that the great one is going on tour, they make it their lives' mission to find and maybe, hope against hope, even meet Meat.

The rest of the film interweaves the separate stories as Russell and Marvin follow the band across the country, just missing them at every turn. It is all, to say the least, an uneven hodgepodge that is consistently hit and miss.

There are several funny bits in addition to Ernie the interviewer. There's a Napoleonic punk security guard who harasses anyone trying to get close to Meat Loaf. This one-man riot act would beat away Meat's shadow if he could.

The concert footage is erratic, in that sometimes we'll only see a few seconds of a number, such as with ''Paradise by the Dashboard Light,'' and it's more of a tease than anything else. But watching and hearing Meat Loaf perform is a treat throughout. He has a great voice and a hypnotic stage presence, making one wish we could have seen him in concert back then. He also looks as comfortable in front of the camera as he does on stage.

''Dead Ringer'' is lively, but simple-minded fun. You may moan one or two times, but on the whole it's worth it.

I especially like the last bit but on the whole it's worth it shame you can't actually buy it to test that theory out :roll:

Pud :twisted:

Ankie

29 Nov 2005, 12:36

Sounds like one I would like to see! And yes, it is a shame we are not able to test if these lines are also our opinion...

Did anyone hear a reason why it never was released? Even better: if there is a chance it ever will??

Jeanie

30 Nov 2005, 01:10

Thanks Pud, I always wondered what the subject matter of the Dead Ringer" film was, and now I finally know. Just wish we all could have seen it...

If I'm not mistaken Ankie, I think Meat says in an interview from around that time, that because of the bankrupcy ect, he was going through, the government confiscated the film, and that's why it's never been released. < I could be wrong, that's what I remember though.

J.

Pudding

30 Nov 2005, 01:49

It would seem that the cheeky beggar on IMDB who gave the review, copied it from a review given By JEFF MENELL, which is actually on Jimsteinman.com (http://www.jimsteinman.com/deadmovie.htm)

Pud :twisted:

Vickip

30 Nov 2005, 02:32

RadioMaster

03 Oct 2006, 16:37

just got the information from "to hell and back"

I thought it was never shown/released, but then I found reviews on IMDB.
Do you got any information about this movie? was it shown somewhere? Is it even available to buy?
As far as I know it´s not, but maybe you´ve got further information....

I think the best known scene from that movie is the part they took for the DRFL video clip....

I´d really be interested to see that movie...

AndyK

03 Oct 2006, 16:40

Wouldn't we all RJ!

I think it was shown once at some film festival somewhere and then got snatched and hidden away ...

RadioMaster

03 Oct 2006, 17:06

here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101673/usercomments) is the review from IMDB I was mentioning.

Diane

03 Oct 2006, 17:24

According to Meat's autobiography the movie was shown once at the Toronto Film Festival.

A very short trailer with Meat and Josh Mostel was shown on The Old Grey Whistle Test in the '80s and also during the excellent BBC documentary series The Music Biz in 1995.

Diane

Pudding

03 Oct 2006, 22:16

Not wanting to burst any bubbles here, but I will, the ass who posted that review on IMDB.com copied it directly from http://www.jimsteinman.com/deadmovie.htm

Pud :twisted:

batcity

03 Oct 2006, 22:26

Yes the only program really to show clips of Deadringer movie was BBc Music Bizz's Which I have a copy of the program!!!

MeatGrl1

04 Oct 2006, 02:33

I want this movie!

LOL

Blackkat13

04 Oct 2006, 04:36

All I know is the clip on ROL and thats all I have ever seen on this movie.

Pudding

04 Oct 2006, 07:33

Wasn't the More Than You Deserve music video taken from the film?

Pud :twisted:

AndrewG

04 Oct 2006, 09:22

Wasn't the More Than You Deserve music video taken from the film?

Pud :twisted:

Was it?

I think this is one of Meat's better music videos. :D

Pudding

04 Oct 2006, 09:46

I've no idea if it was or it wasn't, it just looks it could've been part of a bigger story.

Pud :twisted:

batcity

04 Oct 2006, 11:42

Yes the video to More Than You Deserve was going to be part of the Deadringer Movie!!!

The Dearinger movie has Never been released and to this day, I don't think anyone has a copy. Meat might but I don't know!!!

Diane

23 Nov 2006, 12:02

Found this on the CanMag (http://www.canmag.com/news/4/3/5841) website. I especially like the "stay tuned for updates". There are many of us who would like to think the movie will eventually see the light of day!:

As a fan of Meat Loaf’s music (http://www.canmag.com/news/4/3/5841#), my heart broke when I read in his autobiography that he made a movie (http://www.canmag.com/news/4/3/5841#) based on the Dead Ringer album (http://www.canmag.com/news/4/3/5841#) that never got distributed. The film featured Meat Loaf (http://www.canmag.com/news/4/3/5841#) performing the album’s songs in concert, and playing a Meat Loaf look-alike in a parallel story.

Meat Loaf on Lost Dead Ringer Movie

Even as a curiosity piece, the movie sounds awesome, but Meat Loaf couldn’t even tell me whether even a bootleg copy still exists. “Not that I know of,” he said. “I’ve never seen it.”

The Dead Ringer album was considered a dud after the smash hit of Bat out of Hell, but fans like me have warmed up to it. With Loaf’s current performances focusing on the Bat out of Hell albums (http://www.canmag.com/news/4/3/5841#), the lost film could be the only chance to see Dead Ringer songs performed.

“Yeah, that’s what was in there. That’s the songs that were in that movie. No, I have no idea where that movie is. I think Jim Steinman’s manager does but that’s it.”With Meat Loaf’s popularity exponentially larger with new generations of fans today, it is surprising that nobody has tried to resurrect the film on DVD (http://www.canmag.com/news/4/3/5841#). “It actually showed in whenever we did that, ’81, at the early stages of the Toronto Film Festival. So it actually had an airing. Somebody wrote about it. So I don't know how you’d research that but it did play one time. But it’s a real mess. The people took it out of the hands of the director and took it out of the hands of me. Crazy people took it over.”

Stay tuned for updates.

Jayd

24 Nov 2006, 16:21

If anyone has a premium account on IMDB, you can find out the contact details of the director, or anyone closely related to the film, maybe you could send them a leeter, and hope for a reply of information, maybe they might know, usually a director would know, where his film has ended up.