Bum note on Bat out of Hell

[firstbase]

Hi all.

Am working as a guitarist on a new Meatloaf Tribute act - 'From Paradise to Hell'. Of course we do Bat out of Hell and I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed that there is a glaring bum piano note in the opening on the original version on BOOH?

Listen to the track extremely carefully. When the two guitars are doing the theme line in harmony, on the second round of this there is a big glaring bum note on a honky-tonk style piano. It sounds almost like a Windows error sound -- a big "clonk". Once you hear it for the first time it then becomes very, very noticeable.

Any takers?

Mark W
Rhythm Guitar
From Paradise to Hell
http://www.fromparadisetohell.com

[White of High]

I can't use your website...

[firstbase]

Which browser are you using? It seems to work best with Internet Explorer but has also been tested with Mozilla. I've also personally tried it with Internet Explorer 5.2 on a Mac and it seems OK.

FWIW

Mark.

[LP]

I'm not particularly musical but I think Steinman did things like this, the early 70's live versions of Bat Out Of Hell had a very honky tonk piano riff after each '....gone when the morning comes..". If that made sense? Also Jims Requiem Metal on Pandora's Box has a few odd notes.

Luke

[Alice]

It's not a bum note actually. Jim and other non-classic but Rock'n'Roll, Musical and other composers use such technique quite a lot. It gives a bit atonal feeling but adds to atomosphere. Rock music is about experimentation. Atonal and dissonant notes give lots of variety to the music... but only when they are used where they should be!
not when it's a bad playing or something.

I don't think Jim or Todd would allow something "wrong" in the studio record.

cheers!

[firstbase]

I remember listening to the track when trying to learn the guitar part and thinking.. "Hang on.. that doesn't sound right" when I first heard this "thing" and to my ears it genuinely sounds like a wrong note.

a. It's not in time with the rest of the music
b. It's at a pitch that isn't in any scale related to F, Bb or C -- the main chords used in BOOH.
c. It's not exactly a quiet noise. When you've identified it, it does tend to stiand out like a sore thumb on any subsequent listenings.

A friend of mine is convinced it's some sort of MIDI overrun... that's assuming the guys were using MIDI when they recorded it. It's also interesting to note that the song appears to have been recorded without the help of a click-track. Within certain sections that appear to have a steady pace, the actual BPM varies a tremendous amount..

FWIW

[firstbase]

If this is some kind of "subliminal" thing, then how come it's the only track on that album (AFAIK) that has something like that on it? It strikes me as highly suspiciuous...

:D

[LP]

Atonal and dissonant notes

Every day is a school day! :D

Cheers

Luke