Official Meat Loaf Site / Fanclub

[angel eyes]

I know a few have joined the new Meat Loaf site. I was just wondering how long it took for you to receive your membership packs?

My cheque was cashed early September, despite an e mail, haven't had any response and therefore can't access the site.

Has anyone else had to wait a while?

Much appreciated.
Love
Angelxxx

[RoknRollJesus]

Yes Angel....I joined in June....payment cleared on credit card and am still waiting for my membership packet.
Patience is a virtue...or so I've been told! :wink:

jo

[Kai-H.]

8O

O.k. ... patience is one thing, promise an other !

They promised something for a lot of money, and now they don't even answer questions.

Hope the package will see the light of day this year ... .

Bye from Kai

[Pudding]

You don't actually get sod all for joining except 'emotional support' and it's money well spent apparently :roll:

Pud :twisted:
...I've not joined by the way...

[Bart]

The official site: my ass! I am not gonna pay for a forum when the best forum is for free.

[rick]

with regards to the afore mentioned so called money making scam(sorry fan club)
does any one else feel a little bit conned
this morgan bloke must have a day job as the invisible man
when anyone want's to get hold of him he dissapear's

it makes me wonder what's going on when meat post's on the uk forum and not on his suposidly own site

A lot of people have spent there hard earned money to join this site and i think it's time that we started getting value for our money !
the site basically is CRAP

here end's my end of week rant i feel much better now


rick

[dottie]

'The best things in life are free'

[Pudding]

this morgan bloke must have a day job as the invisible man when anyone want's to get hold of him he dissapear's

I don't know who this Morgan bloke is but he must have a tidy sum of cash to be able to go on a few jolly holidays.

it makes me wonder what's going on when meat post's on the uk forum and not on his suposidly own site

You're not the first person to say that I'm afraid. The ironic thing is, is that there's a bunch 'True' fans who claim his official site is a safe haven and place for him to post, yet he never does. Mind you if I had some of his fans following me around like they do him I wouldn't post either, in fact I'd be seeking a lawyer and getting an injunction placed against them :nuts:

Pud :twisted:

[Bart]

'The best things in life are free'

I am free baby :mrgreen: :wink:

[Heli]

when anyone want's to get hold of him he dissapear's


rick


Sounds like someone I know :roll:

[R.]

Guys,
whatever your problem is with the official site / fanclub, the best place to voice your complaints is at their forums (http://www.meatloaf.net/board/forums.asp).
While I appreciate your comments, wether good or bad, I cannot tolerate derogative ones.
So, pretty please, do not complain here - otherwise this thread will be locked or deleted. :lock:

[rick]

this is one of the problems R you have to pay $40 to get on the forum as it is member's only

and yes i have complained to morgan but i think christmass will come before a reply

sorry if i am going off topic

rick

[Jayd]

I sent an email to the site last month and got a reply. I asked when the packs are to be sent. I was told they are being sorted and should receive it soon. :D

[angel eyes]

Thanks for info.

Thought I'd opened a can of worms there for a moment.

Love
Angelxxx

[Coppertop]

Well I haven't joined. Gun shy I guess you could say. I purchased a product off the official site over a year ago and have recieved nothing. Now the forum is locked unless I spend more money to become a member just to complain. How is that right?? I love Meat Loaf and really would like to be a member to attend the meet and greets etc. but I'm frustrated to no end and out $80. Does anyone know anything about knock out talent? Why won't 10th street answer my e-mails?

[DIZZY DRUMMER]

I am glad that I did not join & stuck with this site :wink:

At least here I receive what is promised & paid for :D

[wizardofodd]

[color=darkblue]hey all :0mghi2u: i have just literally joined this website :) i have viewed the official meatloaf website and didnt have no interest of joining mainly because i dont have no money mind you im only 14 looking forward to speakin to you all soon. :P

[gerard359]

Hi guys,merry xmas to u all.
I was just wondering what everyone thinks of the new website. More particular what do you think is going on. Now i know there never was much movement in terms of adding videos or news etc..but at the moment the whole thing has come to a stand still, with them not accepting new members. Forgive me if there is a real reason that everybody else knows about (im usually the last), but im beginning to think we were all had. It ain't a money thing cause I would have happily paid double if we got what we were promised. Any opinions

Happy New Year All
Gerry359

[AndrewG]

I never joined the website to be honest mainly due to bad passed experiences:

I joined "the official fanclub" back in 1993 and I never received anything that was promised. They kept sending letters saying that the first issue of the magazine was going to be sent out, which never happened. I remember spending about 25 quid for a the membership but never was refunded (I did however get a small welcome pack, but that was probably only worth a fiver if I think about it).

I am glad to see this mlukfc.com does deliver its promises and I hope the new website does as well. The fact that they are not taking on new members does not sound too promising though.

I still do not think it is right to ask for money to enter certain parts of a fan website. I think Bruce Springsteen's official site is pretty good and it's free.

[Pudding]

I never joined the 'official' fanclub because at the time it couldn't offer me anything I didn't already have. I never part with money unless I know exactly what I'm getting or do things on a whim. Seems my forsight was correct.

I know a group of 'paying' members to the site created a secret list to discuss how to demand a refund from Turnstyle but I haven't heard if they were successful or not.

I think this is a good lesson for everyone and not to go into something blindly just because it has Meats name attached to it. Make sure you know what you're getting and promises are kept.

Pud :twisted:

[R.]

Merged.

[rick]

have just recived a reply to a e-mail i sent in nov with regard's to ml.net the reply is quite interesting and for any who are member's of both fan club's a bit of good news
Hi Ricky-

My most sincere apologies for not responding sooner. As you know, we have had our fair share of problems with the Meat Loaf Fanclub. We are working with Meat Loaf and his management to get these issues resolved. We will have an answer for you on the status of the package, the site and the Fanclub in general in the next 14 days.

Thank you for your patience.

Best,

Todd @ M80 (formerly Turnstyle)

[Deb]

Cool that they replied to you Rick :D Keep us updated with any replies

Deb

[Pudding]

That's great news that they're finally sorting things out and as far as I'm aware you're the only person who's actually contacted them with genuine concerns. So well done to you.

Maybe if things do get sorted to how they should be, I might consider becoming a paid up member.

Pud :twisted:

[R.]

Merged.

[Tim]

The official site: my ass! I am not gonna pay for a forum when the best forum is for free.

YEAH!!! Go Bart!!! You are right!

[Bart]

I saw you checked in on the dutch forum? Butcher? :wink:

[R.]

:wtf: Topic cleaned, you'll find the rest here (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4728).

[Tim]

I saw you checked in on the dutch forum? Butcher? :wink:

Who said i was that?

[Bart]

Me :mrgreen:

[neverlandandy]

why have a forum if people keep bitching about your opinion :lol:

[Winston]

Its better than 'I agree' or 'I couldn't have said it better myself'

[Tim]

Me :mrgreen:

Yeah..see you are saying that Bart.

[AndrewG]

Anymore information?

I see they are still not accepting new members.

It's a shame Meat doesn't have a better official site if you ask me. I still think it should be free. :-(

[SuperLoafMan]

Meat should definitely have a better official website, it definitely should be free!!!
the old official website was amazing, it was a great shame that Vee sadly wasnt able to keep it running and then since has sadly passed away. That site was great.
There should definitely be something done about the offical site!

[rick]

There was supposed to be a letter put on the official site this week from the group handeling the matter but as of yet it hasn't happened .
so we will have to just wait and see !

[R.]

Merged.

[rick]

this has just been sent via e-mail
Existing MeatLoaf.net Members Please Read

All active members of the MeatLoaf.net fan club will be given a FREE six month membership in the new fan club. Members will receive all of the fan club benefits. In order to get the FREE membership, members need to join like any other fan, but at the time of checkout you will need to enter a special $40 off coupon code. The unique coupon code and directions will be emailed to the address that was on file with the old fan club. You should receive this email in the next 24-48 hours. Please do not join until you receive the coupon code. If you join without the code we will not be able to refund your membership.

at last !!!!

[Deb]

$400 for a M&G 8O

[ChrisBelfast]

am i right in thinking the different ticket types are only of use to you if you go to a concert on your own. If I was to go to a concert with my dad id have to pay 400USD each for the platinum tix with M+G

[ROSIE]

It was free last time and therefore a bit special I won't be paying


Rosie

[Deb]

Nor me

[SuperLoafMan]

I got an E-mail this morning offering me the same as you guys, when i looked that it was $400 i was shocked, i couldnt believe it, I think just a ticket at Chatworth is ok at the moment for me, if i was a millionaire i'd definitely have one 8) :D

[Mike Piercy]

What do you get for the $400.00 ticket package?

Do .net members get it cheaper?

Somebody mentioned a meet and greet, do you have to pay for it?

Are there cheaper meet and greet packages?

I'm disabled have already got a ticket and any priority seating I can't use 'cos they all stand up! No view!


Thinking about it I couldn't access the meet and greet unless we both paid ($800). I can get a weekend hotel break for that!

Mike

[ChrisBelfast]

you only get a Meet and Greet in the $400 package. Its the only one that gives you the M+G.

this is from meatloaf.net:

Platinum Package
* For $400 fans would receive:
* ONLY 30 per show
* Ticket for a highest-priced seat in rows 1 - 2.
* For General Admission shows - early entry will be arranged
* Pre-show backstage walkthrough and soundcheck party
* VIP laminate
* One autograph by Meat Loaf
* Tour book or other collectible
* Meet and greet and Photo with Meat Loaf
* Special VIP access to no wait merchandise stand
* 8x10 cardboard commeroative photo frame

[ChrisBelfast]

so if you want to meet Meat then u'd better cought up $400

[Mike Piercy]

Anyone buying?

Whoever came up with that is not helping his image, the thing people respected him for was that he did it for free to anyone regardless of whether they could pay or not.

Very few of us have that sort of money to spare.

In my view they should have offered the package and said as an added bonus Meat had agreed to do a meet and greet / photo for those people.

A subtle difference but - sell the package as an entity don't make him look like a (rock n'roll) mercenary!

These advertising people have no idea the resentment this will create for genuine fans who want to meet him and now know they probably never will unless they pay, this presumably will be the format for Bat III as well? This is like the smoked salmon sandwich brigade at soccer, no interest in Meat, if it's Sunday it must be Harewood and oh! Meat Loaf is there, let's enjoy the drinks never mind about the concert!

I'm sad for Meat this puts him in a very bad light when he probably had nothing to do with it, why don't they ask the fans?

Mike

[ChrisBelfast]

plus he'll strictly only sign one item

[kenny_nipper]

This ticket site offers packages that include vip passes, dont know if that means a m&g is included?

http://www.getlive.co.uk/experience/hidden/meatloaf.asp

It is a shame that money is a factor that results in only 'special ticket holders' to meet the main man. However I dont know of any artist that you can meet at the concert with a 'standard' ticket. They would just be mobbed! As for $400 thats about £207pp. Considering the price of a vip ticket on ticketmaster for liverpool is £172pp I wouldnt say that its to bad for all the extra benefits you get compared to ticketmaster vip price.

There should be a better way we could meet him, Im sure like many other fans that I would queue for hours to meet him if the chance 2 do so was there. That would be a fair way for everybody.

Also does any1 know if ticketmaster planning on selling tickets via the fan club as it has a: Fan club meat loaf ticket listed (although its not active to buy just yet) ???

[ChrisBelfast]

getlive is the same as the Liverpool POPs VIP tickets. They include meals etc and good seats but no meet and greet. You only get a M+G through meat loaf.net

[kenny_nipper]

Well its quite £££ then if u just get a meal + ticket etc & no m&g.

[dottie]

It was free last time and therefore a bit special I won't be paying


Rosie

Nor will I...........

[AndyK]

On his last tour Peter Gabriel offered a similar £200 package for that you didn't get a Meet and greet, but you did get the following: Early access to the venue and the chance to sit and watch the sound check, a pre-show party with food and free bar, a package of gifts, including bag, tour T shirt and two dvds.

A friend of mine who's a huge PG fan bought this, and when we compared the prices of the merchandise on sale compared to what he'd got in his package, it would have cost him around £50 more to have bought everything (including the show ticket) individually, so that worked out as a good deal, considering you got the access to see the soundcheck as well.

[Mike Piercy]

If the gates open at 6.00pm and the show starts at 8.00pm there's not much time to party (what does this party consist of?).

Usual fan club merchadise discounts are 10%.

Have you noticed the other assumption about this package!

Whoever drew it up and advertised the packages as on sale from 14 March doesn't seem to have realised that other tickets have been on sale for ages. REAL Fans have already got theirs so....

If you want to upgrade you sell your exisiting ticket (if you can); forfeit it and buy an upgrade; or don't upgrade.

On the merchandise front I don't entirely agree with Andy, many fans had difficulty affording a £15.00 programme last time though as a colector I appreciate this is quite the norm.

mike

[kenny_nipper]

Yeah I reckon your right, what actually is the party???? I cant see it being anything that good come to think about it!

I think that like many others we will just stick with what tickets we have got now. Surely the main show is what we are wanting to see, not any pre show party etc!

[heat]

Bloody hell.... $400 for a m&g?????


Yes, i think we'd all love to be able to afford that kind of money.... but realistically..... who the hell can?

[ROSIE]

I can imagine it will be a bit like to having to queue at the grotto to see Santa a quick hello and a photo


Rosie

[heat]

I can imagine it will be a bit like to having to queue at the grotto to see Santa a quick hello and a photo


Yeah, but do you get to sit on his knee, and does he give you a present??? :lmao: :twisted: :P

[AndyK]

On the merchandise front I don't entirely agree with Andy, many fans had difficulty affording a £15.00 programme last time though as a colector I appreciate this is quite the norm.



I wasn't stating that I agreed about the overall cost Mike, merely comparing similar packages for value for money. Peter Gabriels deal was I thought vfm, whereas this one just doesn't compare.

[ROSIE]

For $400 i would want one BIG pressie

Rosie

[shadow1000001]

You and me both Rosie!!

I guess I will have to bring binoculars if I want to see him :wink:

[Mike Piercy]

Ho Ho Ho real Meat Loaf fan have I got a surprise for you.....
...that'll be $400 please!

I still can't believe this is right,
there must have been some sort of mistake made, after all they are unaware the other tickets have been on sale and I thought they'd promised to let .netters have advance purchase information, not just advance purchase of exclusive packages which most will not be available to afford.

If you think about it for $400 you could see (5) five shows.

I'd like to know if the Bat III tour will follow a similar ticket price to see Meat. We usually go to at least four dates and would do more if it is the last tour, this sort of price would preclude us meeting him then as well.

Surely they'll review this.

I still say I feel sorry for Meat, he can't have wanted this.

Mike

[Winston]

I still say I feel sorry for Meat, he can't have wanted this.

Meat Loaf has worked hard to arrange the following exclusive ticket and ticket package offerings for his fan club.
Looks like he did :?

[ChrisBelfast]

I still say I feel sorry for Meat, he can't have wanted this.

Meat Loaf has worked hard to arrange the following exclusive ticket and ticket package offerings for his fan club.
Looks like he did :?

plus there is the fact that he may not be able to make it to to the aftershow...always that possibility, then what?

[Steve]

Unfortunately, I see a pattern developing here....

First, the $40 rip-off with what was supposed to be the official fan club. Now, I'm being asked to pay $300 extra for something that used to be given for free.

I have never met Meat.....now it looks like I never will. If this is how fans are going to be treated in the new, post-file-sharing world, I'm going to turn to religion - at least in church you're only asked to pay what you can afford and what you feel you need to pay.

Echoing what was said earlier, why wait until weeks after the tickets are generally available to publicise the packages. The bronze upgrade may have been worthwhile....the others are not worth commenting upon. The real fans will already have bought tickets before these 'benefits' were announced. Yet another own goal!

I am disappointed: it seems that someone in Meat's entourage is determined to make up for loss of income from the aborted world tour. Thanks, Meat. For someone who claims to value the fans, you have a funny way of showing it.

[ChrisBelfast]

I wonder will anything be made available on a later date for the Northern Ireland, Dublin and Kerry show. Also Liverpool and i'm sure the people of Germany would want the option of special tickets.

[bmbcali]

Just to add another opinion to this new fan club and pricey ticket packages. This is not exclusive to Meat. In fact, a lot of us Alice Cooper fans also got the news about pricey ticket packages being offered for Alice concerts in 2005 through Fanfire/Signatures, see www.alicecooper.com

Notice the part about how no entire row has been reserved for the package opportunity. That means you could still get a good seat without paying a fortune. Some Alice fans asked about what would happen to the tickets that were not sold through the pricey packages. These would be put back on sale to the general public about 1 or 2 weeks before the show. So, if someone just wanted to get good tickets, if it didn't happen as soon as tickets went on sale, it could be possible to keep checking and see if these package tickets are released. I assume this would be the case with Meat shows as the same company is running this deal.

However, what if Meat, Alice, or whatever other artist has signed to this special ticket deal has to cancel a show? Do you get a refund? What if they are too tired or sick to do the Meet and Greet? Or, what if they get sick half way through the show? It says you can get a refund if the event is cancelled minus the handling fees. Also says you cannot transfer your package or re-sell in whole or part or they have the right to cancel the whole package.

As far as being up close, when Alice played the House of Blues on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood for 3 nights in a row a few years ago, I was up front for each shows and didn't pay a scalper or anyone else. All tickets are general admission and if you buy dinner you get in a half hour before the rest of the line, so if you show up early, have dinner, and get in the early line, you are up close! Only the really big fans want up close anyway. I was at Meat's last show at Universal (Cindy Lauper opened) and it was disappointing to see "corporate" people with free tickets up close leaving half way throught Meat's show! Those were seats real and energetic fans could have occupied! (not uninterested corporate people on their cell phones during a show--that is what I saw.)


Anyway, here is the bottom line. After belonging to the various incarnations of the official international Meat fan club and paying at first what was a reasonable fee for postage for newsletters, autographed photo, and some special contest opportunities, and possible meet and greets (that never happened in my area of So. California), I finally get an autograph and meet opportunity with Meat at Alice Cooper's annual golf tournament dinner/auction. See www.alicecooper.com and then check from 2004 and before to see Meat's name on celebrity list.

This event is for a non profit Christian charity to help children and teens and just the dinner/auction was $125, now it is up to $200. However, the money goes towards charity which is well worth it, and you have the opportunity to bid on some cool autographed memorabilia, have a fantastic sit down dinner, and a celebrity jam with Alice and others! You get to mingle with the celebrities that are there and if you are lucky maybe get an autograph or photo just for keeping your eyes open. They also put a celebrity at each table so you never know who you might have dinner with! A few years ago Meat went on stage and performed "Paradise" and one more song. I was jumping for joy!

I have signed up for my free 6-month extension for Meat's official fan club. However, when that expires, that is it for me. I'll just check in to this board to see what Meat is up to.

As far as Meat or Alice or anyone else's shows I want to see, I will not pay a scalper for a good seat. Even being a subscriber to Universal/ Greek theater in So. Cal. does not cost any extra other than regular ticket prices. Sure, you have to buy about 3 or 4 shows (or more for even better seat), but you have first pick at them before the general public. I'm also not going to pay $40 or more for the opportunity to get better tix. I'm already signed up to receive Email for every venue in my area, and it didn't cost me anything. I get special notices all the time for pre-sale tickets by doing this. I don't know if they have this kind of thing in other countries, I don't see why not.

Also, a lot of the fans are getting older also and as we struggle to hold on to our jobs, talk of having our retirements messed with (at least in US), and have other financial obligations, we have to carefully budget our money. The reality is a lot of these artists will not be touring within 5-10 years, and I guess some people think this is a prime opportunity to milk the last of the die hard fans for that special opportunity to meet their artist before they retire.

I don't know what percentage of money from ticket packages Meat, Alice or others get from these special tickets deals. I would be interested in finding out their thoughts on this. For those that think they will never have a chance to meet these artists through an in-store DVD signing, a chance run-in, etc., I guess they can justify the cost of the tickets. There are always local contests you can enter, maybe friends of friends, etc.

In fact, as a last note, I finally met DEVO when they did a concert as part of a Nike race post concert (it was a four US city event) at the Coliseum. I had been in contact with their webmaster before the event. Some fans pointed him out during the concert. I happened to meet with him after the show and just told him I would love a quick chance to meet the guys, so without a special pass or any money changing hands, he told the security guy to let me in, and there I was getting autographs from all the guys on my "energy dome" hat, briefly exchanged a few words, and then they had to make it to the bus. A simple gesture of a fan helping another fan :) That is what makes a meet and greet opportunity special, not paying for it.

[Deb]

I wonder will anything be made available on a later date for the Northern Ireland, Dublin and Kerry show. Also Liverpool and i'm sure the people of Germany would want the option of special tickets.

Not so sure that they could do this on the shows that have other artsts on the bill. Status Quo fans would be none to ahppy I'm sure.

Deb

[Deb]

bmcali... Come to the UK to See Alice, he's not doing them packages here :D I managed to get front row for Wembley arena at no extra cost. Which is the way it always has been here and always should be.

Deb

[Mike Piercy]

I can tell you what they do in the event of a cancellation.

40 Licks Tour, Stones @ Twickenham, we went on a hotel, ticket, transport to venue package (we did this because of my disability for easy access). When we got to the hotel we were informed they had postponed the concert for about 4 weeks, Jagger ill.

If you had no cancellation insurance (we did, most didn't) only the ticket was valid for a future date. Still cost two sets of train fares instead of one for the new date. It'll be interesting to ask what they would do if you had the party and there was a no show. Get insurance

As for this being the norm it may be but it's not so in "old Meaty world" and the PR has always been what he's done for the fans. Indeed we have all praised him for re-scheduling a concert and for the meet/greets.

The point about failure to sell the meet/greet package is an interesting one and makes my previous point, most fans want to see more concerts so a price of $400 precludes that package. Previously I felt this would be aimed at a "corporate" style market, highest bidder gets, probably not fans, the people who can afford Wimbledon but don't particulrly care about the tennis, same as Ascot, corporate soccer and cricket. Eventually this corporate stuff will change the nature of concerts, and kill the real enthusiasm.

This is very sad but I fear will become the norm. It would have been better if they had offered a ##% package discount to fans of all clubs, I can't see what benefit it is to .netters at that price.

Mike

[angel eyes]

:cry: I received the e mail from the meat site stating the changes taking place. Although my cheque was cashed in September I have never received any package and therefore have still not been able to access the site, and therefore have no priviledges. Tried to e mail them about this but e mail returned by "webmaster". Is anyone else in this situation? If so has anyone received any answers??

It's so frustrating - couldn't really afford to join but used my birthday money. Wished I'd never bothered as I don't think I'll get it back or have a membership on the new site. Oh well!

Love

angelxxx

[RoknRollJesus]

Here's my two cents.....

I am very disheartened to see Meat go the way of so many "fan clubs" that require you to pay for the priviledge of meeting the artist. KISS started using this same system and I went for it ONCE.....although I could not afford the top package deal (meaning I did not BUY a M & G moment with the band) but I did hope that I would get prime seats for the show via paying the additional money. I saw the tour 6 times (only did the upgrade once though) and I got comparable, if not better, seats the five times that I did not pay the additional cash. Where I work, I see a LOT of shows coming through and a LOT of them are going with this new system. Granted, it does afford the few who actually have that sort of cash to spend an opportunity to meet the artist - but those of us who put everything they can into just getting to and seeing the show will never be able do so. It was bad enough before when I wasn't 'cool' enough or my breasts weren't big enough to get invited to a M & G. Now its escalated into my bank account is not big enough either.

As for the 'new' fan club. I found it very amusing that I was offered a free membership for SIX MONTHS......I purchased a yearly membership way back when........perhaps they forgot that NONE of us received a welcome packet.....or hey....what about that incredibly awesome patch I designed........I just have to laugh I suppose. Yes I paid for a membership and probably will continue to do so. HOWEVER.....MLUKFC will always be the first place I visit....even if I have never officially joined by sending payment....I have always felt welcome here!

jo

[Deb]

Jo I agree with you wholeheartedly on this being the No 1 Meat fan club. I would just like to say that I think they all do a really excellent job here. They're all great people and deserve a bit of recognition for their hard work.

Deb

[ROSIE]

I coud 'nt agree more this fan club does a brilliant job but gets no real appreciation from the man himself. This site is alive and there is always two way communication between fans and admin, unlike .net whicj is just a dead shop window waiting to take your money. No interaction I am still waiting for four questions to be answered by them all I got was an automated reply??????? big deal


Rosie

[ROSIE]

P.S,

someone once said correct me if i am wrong


"I aint in it for the wealth"


Rosie

[Deb]

Come the end of my yrs subscriptions on Meat websites. This is the one I'll be renewing.

Deb

[ROSIE]

same here Debs, won't be played for a fool again


Rosie

[Oriel]

For anything to do with Meat Loaf membership, everything I've known was been terrible, hence I now consider it a big waste of money.
It's the PR company you're dealing with, they don't give a crap about the fans, just about their money, as with any other PR company.

S.

P.S. I'd still like my £23.99 back from 1995 please, when I got one crappy envelope with upcoming appearances and nothing else at all after that, even after several letters of complaint.

[DIZZY DRUMMER]

I've said it before & will say it again


I am glad that I saved my money on the "Official Site" I don't know what it was - but there was something not quite right with it for me :roll:

I am happy here :bunny: - Great Fans - Great Friends - Not a "RIP OFF"


Thanks Guys :bunny:

[SuperLoafMan]

FA1000 you are correct 110%

They said that i was transferred to the new site and had a couple of months free range of the site and go on any topic, yeah right, no go area, it wouldnt let me sign in, so when the E-Mail came i couldnt believe what i was reading,

Anyhow, this site is top notch, i love it, you guys are amazing, it was the best thing i did joinging this site, thanks,

SLM :D

[Deb]

I think that it's a fanclub run by the fans for the fans says it all :D

[DIZZY DRUMMER]

Here Here !!!!!

[ROSIE]

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Rosie

[Steve]

Interesting news, Rick.

I reported this scam to the California Department of Consumer Affairs in Jan....so far I haven't heard from them either. Maybe its an American thing - they don't recognise the rights of anywhere else because those areas simply don't matter!!!!! I am not going to believe anything good will come of this new, reinvented scam/fan club (i.e. no difference from the previous new, reinvented scam/fan club) until I hold physical fulfillment of their promises in my sticky, cash-light hand.

Me? Cynical? Nah!!

[jcmoorehead]

I had a look... and thought "nah" i'm not going to pay to show that i'm a fan of anyone, surely buying the albums, dvds and going to the concerts should be enough. The only fan club i'd ever think about joining is this one simply because the person running it isn't a high paid web designer or otherwise, the person running this is a real person with a valid reason for the payment who's gone out of his way to create this.

[kp3]

Hi,
i joined in June last year money was taken of my credit card 24hrs later i have had no welcome packs no letters nothng emailed them tonnes of times no replies then i got email to say i was getting 6 months free membership (but really i am only getting 3 as my membership wouldn't have run out till June )and that it would be free cos i had to log in a special code and i could go on all areas of the web site well guess what i cant, it wont let me go on anything but the news page.i have emailed them seven times in the last week and not a reply to any of them.
I have reported the site to watch dog may be if a few more people do the same thing THEY may look into it and get some answers cos the fans dont seem to be able to get any where.
I would just like my money back, i may as well of thrown the money down the drain, it is a real shame that this is happening to a site that carries Meatloaf's name.

[Deb]

Just got an email letting me know that if you're in the mlukfc now you can join the meatloaf.net fanclub with the 6 months like the other members. I'm more than pleased for the mlukfc that this has happened. They deserve to have this. Still not happy about the costs of the packages but thats not the MLUKFC.s or Meats faults I guess. Just a shame for those of us who went and joined .net they day they let people sign up again. As now I don't get the free 6 months :evil: Maybe just maybe one day this will all work out in our favour.

Congrats MLUKFC for being part of this. For all of your hard work it's the least you deserve :D

Deb

[Mike Piercy]

Sorry not to have been able to tell you paying MLUKFC members about this before, we've been negotiating hard. The 6 months free membership allows you to access the packages.

Let me say that we've only been able to get this offer to those with valid, current e-mail addresses and it will be repeated in the April RVM magazine along with a lengthy article about the situation.

We were unable to get any "pay free" meet and greets but neither are meatloaf.net members getting them. If you want to meet Meat now you have to buy a Platinum Package - and no I don't like it either, we just wanted you all to be on an equal footing with .net

Will I be buying one NO!

I suspect this is the future folks, Fan Experience packages are lucrative, rock is a business and businesses have to make money - it just leaves a bitter taste done like this after what we had before doesn't it?

I do have to say thanks to Michael Brandvold at .net though, he arranged this and while we agree to differ he has got us equality.

Mike Piercy

[ROSIE]

Eventually???


Rosie

[faolteam]

I Missed Out In A Meet N Greet When Meat Loaf Came To The Point Depot Dublin, In December 03, When He Was Sick And Was Unable To Take Meet N Greets, But There Is No Way I Would Pay To Meet Him I Think Its A Total Disgrace And No Loyalty To The Fans.

This Is A Rip Off To The Fans And A Quick Way To Make A Buck By This So Called Meat Loaf.netfan Club Who Refuse To Answer Any Of My E-mails As They Are Not Taking Emails Now They Are Been Sent Back Directly To You.

[faolteam]

Joke

[faolteam]

there is no forums on their site

[faolteam]

Like Everyone Else I Paid In July Last Year 2004 And Have Recieved Nothing, I Would Advise Veerybody Who Did Pay By Credit Card To Contact Their Bank Just In Case They Try To Debit Money From Your Account Again When The Renewal Is Up Even Though They Told Me That It Was Up To The Member To Renew It, I Would Be Dubious About This,

I Will Do Whatever It Takes To Make Sure Meat Loaf Knows Whats Going On If He Doesn't Know Already, I Would Urge People To Send Letters Emails To The Meat Loaf's Management On This Matter, Make It Ur Business To Confront Them At The Shows If It Even Means A Demonstration,

Why Should We Be Ripped Off, And Then They Have The Odesity To Keep Sending Us Emails From Thier Site But We Cant Get In Touch With Them And Then They Ask Us To Pay More To See Him Platiumn My A**

[DIZZY DRUMMER]

Mike wrote:


Sorry not to have been able to tell you paying MLUKFC members about this before, we've been negotiating hard. The 6 months free membership allows you to access the packages.

Let me say that we've only been able to get this offer to those with valid, current e-mail addresses and it will be repeated in the April RVM magazine along with a lengthy article about the situation.

We were unable to get any "pay free" meet and greets but neither are meatloaf.net members getting them. If you want to meet Meat now you have to buy a Platinum Package - and no I don't like it either, we just wanted you all to be on an equal footing with .net

Will I be buying one NO!

I suspect this is the future folks, Fan Experience packages are lucrative, rock is a business and businesses have to make money - it just leaves a bitter taste done like this after what we had before doesn't it?

I do have to say thanks to Michael Brandvold at .net though, he arranged this and while we agree to differ he has got us equality.

Mike Piercy


Thanks Mike - I have used my code to join for the 6 months - but as everyone else has said - NO I will not be getting a package either. I have already got my tix for the concerts.

Can we upgrade to a better seats now then - even the lowest priced fan seats ?????

[AndyK]

So, does this mean that people who were members of the original ill-fated .net fan club, and MLUKFC qualify for 12 months free membership in total?

[faolteam]

No Matter What They Are Offering Us Now They Should Have Had The Decency To Answer Our E-mails And Commited To Their Promises They Failed And They Failed Miserably They Ripped Us Off They Were Quick Enough To Take Our Money , I Am Afraid To Say I Hear Alarm Bells And I Would Urge Everyone Not To Join Them Or Have Anything To Do With Them Unless We Get A Hand Written Apology From Them

[Mike Piercy]

My understanding is that the team now running meatloaf.net are totally different from the previous incarnation.

As far as I can see they do not accept any responsibility for what has gone before, they are a separate unrelated company, the people who ran it then seem to have disappeared into the ether.

What we have tried to do is get the same "benefits/access" for this tour as our meatloaf.net counterparts, to do this you have to access the free 6 month membership offer. This then allows you to buy a $400.00 package to guarantee a "meet and greet" - I'll say no more.....for now.

Mike Piercy

[Dave]

No Matter What They Are Offering Us Now They Should Have Had The Decency To Answer Our E-mails And Commited To Their Promises They Failed And They Failed Miserably They Ripped Us Off They Were Quick Enough To Take Our Money , I Am Afraid To Say I Hear Alarm Bells And I Would Urge Everyone Not To Join Them Or Have Anything To Do With Them Unless We Get A Hand Written Apology From Them

A hand-written appology for what? For the sins and indescretions of others? That would be like me appologizing for Joe stepping on Peter's foot!

Let me set up some history for y'all. In this history, when I refer to "Meat Loaf," I am talking about either himself, management, legal representation, power of attorney - whatever. I do not pretend to know who makes this type of decisions for him, nor would I (in all decency) care to speculate.

PAST = A company called Turnstyle worked with Meat Loaf (in some form or another) to set up a fan club. Turnstyle, for whatever reason was unable to fufill the duties of the job they were hired to do. At some point, a decision was made somewhere by some one to cut off ties with Turnstyle. All of that is in the past.

PRESENT = A company called Network Signatures has agreed to form a new "fan club" for Meat Loaf. They have set up a ticketing system wherein you do not have to deal with the BS involved with Ticketmaster, but can purchase premium seating directly from them.

Turnstyle and Network Signatures are in no way affiliated with each other, much in the same way Turnstyle and Karr Management were in no way affiliated with eachother. Now, should Turnstyle have offered hand-written appologies to the people who were not granted meet and greets because they messed up the supposed lotto system, surprizingly having the same people being "lucky" time after time after time after time? HELL NO! Turnstyle had nothing to do with the mess Karr Management left at the end - exactly as Network Signatures has absolutely nothing to do with the mess created by Turnstyle.

*stepping off my soap box*

~Dave

[faolteam]

Can i just say Dave your answer is typical of well SH** HAPPENS,
TOUGH , I DONT THINK SO,

WE CAN GO ON BLAMING EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WORLD FOR THIS MESS IF THEY WERE PREPARED TO TAKE IT ON THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO I JUST DON'T BUY THAT .
I am not on about meet n greets apologies i am on about the fact that we recieved no offical welcoming to the club, packs etc etc with the literature we were promised, what did we pay $40.00 for.

Dont you think that we should be given some explanation through the site as to why we were RIPPED off.

Why should us fans believe that this won't happen again,

I know the company at the time was Turnstyles and they refused to anwer our E-Mails which are been sent back immediately but also the new company Network Signatures are also refusing our E-Mails.

So who is kidding who, in my country u get what u pay for!!!

( RIP OFF THE YEAR )

[Dave]

Dont you think that we should be given some explanation through the site as to why we were RIPPED off.

Again, why should Network Signatures be held responsible in any way whatsoever by the actions of Turnstyle. Did Network Signatures ever come out and say they were "taking over" for Turnstyle? I cannot see any evidence of that. It does not matter what country you are from, the plain and simple truth is you cannot hold someone's feet to the fire to fix something they just had nothing to do with. The best course of action for anyone who feels they have been wronged by Turnstyle would be to file charges with their local legal authorities against Turnstyle. I believe Network Signatures is going beyond the call of duty in trying rectify a situation they had nothing to do with - my belief. From everything I read, the Network Signatures fan club is an entirely new entity - separate and apart from the fan clubs set up by Karr Managment and Turnstyle in the past. Your grievance is with Turnstyle - not with Network Signatures - from the way I see it. I could be wrong. I am only human. I am just saying that personally, I fail to see where Network Signatures is in anyway to blame for any course of action taken by Turnstyle or Karr Management in the past.

Dave

[faolteam]

Once again i am not blaming Network Signatures for the problem i only stated did they realise what they were getting into here and obivously people are going to rally around them for an excuse

i would be a bit appprehensive as to why there e-mail are coming back to me all the time

[Dave]

i only stated did they realise what they were getting into here and obivously people are going to rally around them for an excuse


I do not know if they knew what they were stepping into. As for rallying around them for an excuse, I am not sure what you mean by that. Again, I can see no connection between the membership dues we willingly chose to pay to join various fan clubs in the past and an obligation for the current company running the fan club to do anything about problems back then.

To quote an awesome Meat Loaf song, "What's done is done - for everyone - come on baby let's start again right now - Amnesty is granted!"

I think the best suggestion for all would be to stop, take a deep breath, and not automatically assume something will be horribly wrong with Network Signatures.

To be fair, there have been some ups and downs with this fan club as well. Did people go on a witch hunt when editions of RVM have gone out late? No, we were all gracious and exercised a great deal of patience.

Let's see how this goes before we go crucifying someone.

I still think it is great they are extending free memberships to the MLUKFC members - that is great and way above the call of duty!

Dave

[faolteam]

Ok well let me simplify it for you as Network Signatures are taking over the Meat Loaf Club from Turnstyle, to me they are taking responsibilty for using the same fan club name they either change it slightly,

But to use the same name is only asking for trouble,

I am not going to sit here and argue with you as my time is precious,

The fact is i was ripped off by this FAN CLUB NAME i recieved nothing from them and that's the bottom line.

How many more people were ripped off by this club, let us know,

[faolteam]

To Quote An Even More Awesome Song : "i'd Lie For You And Thats The Truth" I Am All Reved Up And No Were To Go" Cause I'm Left In The Dark"

[R.]

Folks, here's some feedback we received to answer some questions found in this thread:

1. Signatures Network has no relation to Turnstyle, the past fan club management. We have no ability to make good on their offer. I suggest fans contact their credit card regarding Turnstyle, though it is probably too late. We have been tasked by Meat Loaf to correct on past problems and build a new fan club going forward. It is a step by step process, but I hope you can see we are making efforts to work and address concerns.

2. Some history of Signatures Network... we have been in business for 30 years. We manage or have managed the fan clubs and ticket programs for acts such as... U2, Motley Crue, KISS, Fleetwood Mac, Rod Stewart, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Alice Cooper, John Mellencamp, Madonna, and others. We work very close with each artist and their management to build a fan club and ticket program with their approval and involvement. Signatures Network has been producing the official merchandise for 100's of acts for 30 years... everyone from Bruce Springsteen, The Beatles, Ozzy, KISS, and many many more. We have a long history and relationship with the artists.

3. We DO NOT automatically renew memberships. We will notify when a membership is about to expire, but it is your responsibility to renew if you wish to continue.

4. We DO NOT store anyone's credit card information.

5. Being developed right now for MeatLoaf.net... webmail, message board, fan galleries, fan reviews, and more. You can take a look at sites such as ClubCherryBomb.net to get a feel of what will be offered.

6. For shows already put onsale we are not able to offer upgrades to the fan club packages. We apologize that we were late in offering the UK tickets, but the delay was a result of taking over and moving from the old fan club and the lack of cooperation. As you can see with the U.S. tour, we will have advance presale access for future dates.
If you have any more questions arising from the offer to MLUKFC, packages, etc., feel free to post them here or send them via email.
We will compile them into a list so that you can expect another batch of answers.

And finally, please keep the discussion constructive and clean.
Thanks for listening.

[ROSIE]

I have a few questions that .net have failed to answer.


How long will it be before the new site is up and running as it has already eaten into the original 6 months free membership?

As myself and others had more than 6 months left from the old fan club why can't this time be matched month for month>


How long do fans who buy the Platinium package actually get with Meat i.e. if 30 fans allowed then to give everyone 4mins he would have to be there for 2 hours, is this likely?

What happens if M&G is cancelled? refunds ?

Why no fan cameras?

How do fans get their M&G photos small print says they have to be downloaded?

What happens to packages that don't sell are they offered to corporate sector, sold on open market?????



Rosie

[faolteam]

Just one thing did Turnstyle club management keep credit card details on file ??

[kp3]

Iam with Foalteam on this i logged on to the new site like i was told to, i was told i would get a free 6 months membership because i was a member that had got ripped of,but there are problems with the site other than the news section it will not let me onto the other section's i have emailed them seven times and no replies to any of them so what really is happening.People getting conned out of their money that is what is happening.
If the company that ran it before has not fulfilled their obligation and disappeared for what ever reason surely that is obtaining money by deception ?????.
All in all promises were made when the site first opened we all now what happened there and now it seems to be happening all over again.

[kp3]

sorry i spelt your name wrong Faolteam

[Mike Piercy]

I've posed a number of these questions to signatures network. The replies I have had so far are as follows:

1. Signatures Network has no relation to Turnstyle, the past fan club management. They have no ability to make good on their offer. They suggest fans contact their credit card regarding Turnstyle, though it is probably too late. They have been tasked by Meat Loaf to correct on past problems and build a new fan club going forward. It is a step by step process, but they hope you can see they are making efforts to work and address concerns.

2. They gave me a history of Signatures Network... "we have been in business for 30 years. We manage or have managed the fan clubs and ticket programs for acts such as... U2, Motley Crue, KISS, Fleetwood Mac, Rod Stewart, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Alice Cooper, John Mellencamp, Madonna, and others. We work very close with each artist and their management to build a fan club and ticket program with their approval and involvement. Signatures Network has been producing the official merchandise for 100's of acts for 30 years... everyone from Bruce Springsteen, The Beatles, Ozzy, KISS, and many many more. We have a long history and relationship with the artists."

3. They DO NOT automatically renew memberships. They will notify when a membership is about to expire, but it is your responsibility to renew if you wish to continue.

4. They DO NOT store anyone's credit card information.

5. For shows already put onsale they are not able to offer upgrades to the fan club packages. they apologise that they were late in offering the UK tickets, but the delay was a result of taking over and moving from the old fan club and the lack of cooperation.

Mike Piercy

[kp3]

I'd like an answer to question ,why don't they reply to the emails.

[R.]

@Mike - that has already been posted. :D
I might remove one redundant post later on.

[R.]

I'd like an answer to question ,why don't they reply to the emails.
Karen, there's a very clear answer to your question about the website in the post Mike and I made.
Please take the time to actually read it!

[kp3]

I have read the post's thankyou but it does not say anything about why they dont reply to emails, OR do i need new glasses !!!!!!!!!!

[Steve]

The bottom line is that one dishonest company has been supplanted by a profiteering one. We have lost money on empty promises and there is little that can be said or done to recover the money.

DON'T GET MAD, GET EVEN.

Complain to the California Bureau of Consumer Affairs! If MLUKFC members in the USA can act as sponsors, perhaps we can get a response out of them and perhaps prevent the pirates from starting up again.

I have to agree with faolteam's sentiments with regard to the takeover: same name implies continuation of responsibility - whether justified or not. Personally, I will not be renewing with the new, improved .net when they ask for my money. If the new regime means that I have to remain a foot-soldier in the army of meat then so be it: I will not have my loyalty tested by requests to buy 'favours' with exorbitant sums of money or by pitifully late incentives AFTER I have already shown my loyalty by buying inferior, generally-available tickets as soon as I could after release.

Thanks, .net, but no thanks.

[R.]

I'm guessing because they are probably busy in building the website, which explains that there are no other sections than the news section.

5. Being developed right now for MeatLoaf.net... webmail, message board, fan galleries, fan reviews, and more. You can take a look at sites such as ClubCherryBomb.net to get a feel of what will be offered.

[Deb]

The bottom line is that one dishonest company has been supplanted by a profiteering one.

Have to agree with this one.


Also there anything that can be done for MLUKFC members that have already paid to join the new fanclub? I joined the day they started letting people join again, only to now her that I could of got 6 months free. Is there anyway of still getting this now i've already paid?

Deb

[kp3]

The section you pointed out does not say anything about responses to emails sent.So i guess i will not make an appointment at Specsavers, just because they are building a site does not mean they can't reply to emails, why have a contact section if you cant contact them but then again why have a ticket section if you cant get on it to buy tickets ??????but then again they are building the site so may be it is not ready yet.

[kp3]

@ steve have you complained to the bureau of consumer affairs and if so any chance of any more details

[ROSIE]

I agree Debs I renewed just before .net took it over. The only thing .net has done is open up a one way cash machine and they won't tell us how long before the site is up and running, perhaps in 5 months 3 weeks and 6 days time.

Rosie

[kp3]

Sorry steve last message should of said @ Sultonfan guess i do need those glasses lol

[R.]

The section you pointed out does not say anything about responses to emails sent.So i guess i will not make an appointment at Specsavers, just because they are building a site does not mean they can't reply to emails, why have a contact section if you cant contact them but then again why have a ticket section if you cant get on it to buy tickets ??????but then again they are building the site so may be it is not ready yet.
Actually, the tickets section seems to work?
I can add tickets to my shopping cart and continue to check out area.

[kp3]

Oh i think i will have to go to bed keep getting every bodies name mixed up so here goes again has any one complain to the bureau of consumer affairs and if so any chance of more details
Sooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Deb]

No Karen I havent.

I joined since Net took over Rosie :( If i'd of known they would let MLUKFC members have the same option as the old members I could of saved my money.

[kp3]

@ R thats my point i CAN'T get on the section for whatever reason and they don't reply to emails.

[ROSIE]

yes Debs i renewed 2 weeks before the take over, R has said it all the ticket section works, the part that takes your money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They seem to have a lot of tickets left?

Rosie

[Deb]

Rosie how did you renew 2 weeks before? I thought they wasnt accepting any new members?

Deb

[ROSIE]

I was already a member but just expired, they were not accepting new members but quite happy to rip me off for my renewal fee!

Rosie

[R.]

@ R thats my point i CAN'T get on the section for whatever reason and they don't reply to emails.
How far are you able to proceed?
Can you actually login?

[kp3]

Yes i can log in says welcome and all that i go and click tickets says cant proceed thats it

[R.]

I was already a member but just expired, they were not accepting new members but quite happy to rip me off for my renewal fee!

Rosie
Did you ask your credit card company to cancel that deal or to refund?

[R.]

Yes i can log in says welcome and all that i go and click tickets says cant proceed thats it
Do you see this error message? http://www.fanfire.com/nocookies.html

[ROSIE]

Too late company out of business you get in line and have to spend £100 or over before they take action evenn if it's fraud etc. I thought .net would show a little more goodwill to people like me and Debs who have lost nearly a year's subscription. But no I was wrong they want the name but not the responsibilty I will not renew after my free 6 months up.

Rosie

[kp3]

yes that appeared the first time i logged on then i did every thing it told me to do every thing in the department fine

[R.]

yes that appeared the first time i logged on then i did every thing it told me to do every thing in the department fine
Hmm well ... probably not. Are you by any chance using IE6 on Windows XP Service Pack2?
If so, you probably have lower the cookie restriction settings for meatloaf.net and fanfire.com to "Accept all cookies".
Also, check if you have some cookie blocking personal firewall software running.

[Steve]

The state government portal is www.ca.gov. Navigate to the family and consumer menu and go to Consumer and Families Rights and Remedies then Complaints Against Businesses. Finally, follow the 'file a complaint' link.

Have fun

[Deb]

Hmm well ... probably not. Are you by any chance using IE6 on Windows XP Service Pack2?
If so, you probably have lower the cookie restriction settings for meatloaf.net and fanfire.com to "Accept all cookies".
Also, check if you have some cookie blocking personal firewall software running.

Thinking about it, I had to turn my Norton firewall off to access it.

Deb

[kp3]

I have Mcafee i have set it to allow all cookies i have turned Mcafee of i have done every thing i can possibly do and still i cant get on, i have now given up all hope of ever trying to sort it out.

[R.]

I have Mcafee i have set it to allow all cookies i have turned Mcafee of i have done every thing i can possibly do and still i cant get on, i have now given up all hope of ever trying to sort it out.
Something on your computer is blocking cookies (that's where your login information is stored). You just need to figure out what it is.

[faolteam]

I THINK A FEW THINGS ARE COMING OUT HERE VERY CLEARILY

1. HAVE WE BEEN RIPPED OFF?? YES WE HAVE :roll:

2. HAS THIS COMPANY MADE ANY EFFORT TO REPLY TO PEOPLE IN GENERAL AND I DON'T MEAN PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLAINING, NO THEY HAVE NOT :oops:

3.WHY DOES THIS NEW FAN CLUB HAVE A CONTACT PAGE IF THEY HAVENT GOT THE COURTESY TO REPLY, BEATS ME :roll:

4. WHAT DOES Signature Network AND TURNSTYLES GOT IN COMMON; THEY BOTH AT THE VERY BEGINNING WANTED YOUR MONEY FIRST BEFORE THE FAN CLUB WAS SET UP OR READY? TRUE :oops:

5. HOW MANY PEOPLE PAY FOR A AUTOMOBILE, A HAIR CUT, A SUITE OF FURNITURE, ETC ETC IF ITS NOT READY, NONE OF US, SO WE WERE TRICKED INTO BUYING SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT READY, CORRECT :roll:

6. NO MATTER WHAT WAY WE LOOK AT IT OR WHO TAKES IT OVER WE WERE DUPED TURNSTYLES GOT AWAY WITH IT AND WE LET THEM WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, ITS TO LATE DO ANYTHING ABOUT UR CREDIT CARDS AND CHEQUES ONCE 90 DAYS EXPIRES

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE EMAIL BELOW THEY CLEARILY STATE : Please allow up to 10 weeks for the delivery of your membership package. AND USE MEAT LOAF'S NAME ENDORSING IT ???.

SO BY THIS TIME THEY ARE WELL GONE.

SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHY OR WHO LET THESE PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE TO SET UP THIS FAN CLUB THATS THE REAL CULPRIT AINT IT UP TO THEM TO SORT IT OUT ???

Hi Keith,

Memberships are valid for one year, and then a renewal notice is sent out. So, it's up to you to renew the membership. How many years of membership did you want?

- Morgan
Meat Loaf Support
Thanks for joining the Meat Loaf Fanclub. You have signed up for an annual membership.

As a new member you will receive a membership package in the mail. Please allow up to 10 weeks for the delivery of your membership package.

ACCESS THE MEMBERS ONLY AREA NOW:

You can immediately access the Members Only area of Meatloaf.net with the username and password you have selected. When signing in to the Members Only area, please use the following:
lease email all inquiries to support@meatloaf.net and be sure to always include your full name, username and order number: 167436

Regards,

Meat Loaf & The Meat Loaf Fanclub

************************************

[R.]

This thread is going nowhere.

If I see another post in ALL CAPS shouting at everyone, I'll lock and delete the complete thread right away.
This is NOT a "post-your-complaint-website". Please respect that or post your complaints somewhere else.

[JGrayland]

Wait some people COULD login for tickets??? i know i have my cookies set to accept all, so wtf. this sucks, i knew i shouldnt have bothered spending the 40 on signing with the "new" club.

[R.]

2 things:
(1) Watch your language!
(2) It actually does work. Check if you have a personal firewall running that blocks cookies. The Norton Internet Security Firewall blocks cookies by default, as an example.

[JGrayland]

if that were so i couldnt login to ANY site, correct??? its the only one that doesnt work for me, everything else (mesg boards, online banking stuff, etc) are all working fine.

and i didnt swear, i abbreviated :)

[R.]

if that were so i couldnt login to ANY site, correct??? its the only one that doesnt work for me, everything else (mesg boards, online banking stuff, etc) are all working fine.

and i didnt swear, i abbreviated :)
Nope. That depends how the site scripting is done.

[JGrayland]

so what should i do, shut off every security and protection i have when its good enough for every other site i have been to??? lame.

[faolteam]

i apologise for the caps i did not realise i couldn't use them,

i am really dissapointed that i can not air my views on this site as from what i can see the majority off fans here joined the site and lost , don't you think it's only fair to warn our members , i am only trying to warn other people about the pitfalls that occured with this fan club.

i also feel as a member of this MLUKFC its my democratic right as i was one of the people ripped off

[kp3]

@ JGrayland i can login to the site but it will not let me on the tickets section R advised the same turn of the cookies i did this still wouldn't let me on i have a friend who is a computer expert i told him the situation and he advised that if it was a cookie problem thenit would not let you sign in i gave him my user name and password he tried on his comp and he could not navigate either so where does that leaves us well i just dont no but it certainly isn't a cookie problem like R says but a site problem in my opinion and they are STILL not repling to emails.

[R.]

@ JGrayland i can login to the site but it will not let me on the tickets section R advised the same turn of the cookies i did this still wouldn't let me on i have a friend who is a computer expert i told him the situation and he advised that if it was a cookie problem thenit would not let you sign in i gave him my user name and password he tried on his comp and he could not navigate either so where does that leaves us well i just dont no but it certainly isn't a cookie problem like R says but a site problem in my opinion and they are STILL not repling to emails.
Sigh. What makes you think that your login was successful? You don't get an error message if you try to sign on with the wrong credentials. The "Thank you for logging in screen" is just a simple redirect which gets executed anyway, logged in corerectly or not.

The only hint that your login was successful is that the "Login" phrase on the top right corner changes to "Logout".
If it doesn't say "Logout", then you are simply not logged in.

Well, I could tell you again to allow cookies and to turn off your cookie blocking firewall (just as a try),
but as you and your expert think that I'm wrong, I just skip that.

I'll post a screenshot of the ticketstore after successful login (Cookies allowed, no cookie blocking firewall) instead.

[Deb]

It also says your name in the top left hand corner if you are logged in

[R.]

It also says your name in the top left hand corner if you are logged in
Correct, if you take a closer look, you can read my name in the screenshot.
But that's just the store screen, there's no personal information visible on meatloaf.net (except the membership profile, of course).

[meat_loaf]

Hey guys, i was wondering if sumone can help me i was thinking about joining meats internation fan club as well as the uk fan club again i know that if you join uk fanclub you will recieve a membership kit but can anyone tell me wot u recieve if you join the internation fan club on meatloaf.net; apart from pre-sale tickets and access to features on the site, does it come with a membership etc....?

[SuperLoafMan]

Before you even think about joinging .NET read a few of the post's in the tour talk and general section of the forum.......then make your decision.......

The UK fanclub is cool though, definitely join.....:D

SLM

[SuperLoafMan]

The Official Fan Clun is under general messages......on this post......

Official Meat Loaf Site / Fanclub

Take a look for sure....:D

SLM

[AndyK]

Thread moved and merged as I'm in a Spring Cleaning mood :-D

[R.]

Previous post deleted. We don't need these kinds of messages.

[faolteam]

Hey guys, i was wondering if sumone can help me i was thinking about joining meats internation fan club as well as the uk fan club again i know that if you join uk fanclub you will recieve a membership kit but can anyone tell me wot u recieve if you join the internation fan club on meatloaf.net; apart from pre-sale tickets and access to features on the site, does it come with a membership etc....?


The person asked a genuine question what he would get if he joined the meat loaf international club,

i merely exposed the club for what i recieved, and that was nothing i was stung and i was merely telling him to be careful when u join now,

[faolteam]

Can i just say no matter what has been said about other fan clubs etc,

This in my opinion is the Best, the Ultimate,and Value for Money, well presented , and listens to the fans :well done MLUKFC