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Here's an article i thought i'd share with you from today's Mail on Sunday. It's complete and utter BULLOCKS, but here goes...
Meat Loaf - Cardiff International Arena
MEAT LOAF'S WELL PAST HIS SELL - BY DATE..
You are a veteran rock star, making what's billed as your Last World Tour, and you collapse on stage at Wembley with chest pains. After being treated for an irregular heartbeat, do you (a) gracefully retire, or (b) reschedule some dates, instruct your backing singers to put on nurses' uniforms, and get them to wheel you back on stage in a hospital bed?
Meat Loaf was never big on being graceful. In the rough world of hard rock, many a star looks as if he could be one of his roadies, but Meat Loaf was the fiorst to look like one of his trucks.
For years, it made him unique, but then along came hip-hop, with it's posses of oversized performers, and now the bigger waistline is sweeping the English speaking world. Soon, the average American will feel that Meat Loaf is on the scrawny side.
Mr Loaf's Cardiff date had been postponed twice for health reasons. At the arena, a recorded message assured callers the show was still on. One out of three ain't good. But here he was, rising form his bed to tread the boards like the showman he is.
He didn't dance, but he did trot around for 150 minutes. His voice hasn't changed since Bat Out Of Hell ruled the album chart : it's still the sound of a plaintive mammoth.
He likes to throw everything at an audience - slapstick routines, ghoulish masks, fake flames, flying sofa's and his own comic book personality. The trick of shining floodlights in the crowds face is used four times in the first two numbers. Track three is an interminable rifferama; so is track four. After a heart scare, you'd think that life was too short.
His best song is Jim Steinman's I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That): it's big, romantic and everybody wonders what it is he won't do. Bat Out Of Hell and Dead Ringer For Love still hit the spot, but thier piano - driven verbosity draws heavily from early Bruce Springsteen. Meat Loaf is to Springsteen what Oasis are to Lennon, taking one strand of a complex oeuvre and making it bigger and brasher.
Meat Loaf wins over Cardiff in the end, but he is too self - indulgent and his patter verges on the bullying. 'Hey! I didn't ask you to talk!!' he says when some fans dare open thier mouths mid-anecdote. If rock theatre is what you are after, it's done far better by Peter Gabriel.
3 stars out of 5
I have absolutely no idea what Meat Loaf concert he was at - but it sure as hell wasn't the same one as me....
Nope he wasn't at any concerts i have been to doesn't this pratt know that part of why we love him is for the theatre and the spectacle of lights colour and music at his show if I want to see someone sitting down all night and singing to me I'll watch Des O'OConnor.
Sorry if I have upset any Des fans
Rosie
black dog
18 Jan 2004, 12:37
What a load of rubbish. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion but as a write up surely he should have mentioned that the fans totally enjoyed it and Meat Couldn't Have Done It Better.
Let's hope people take this as the load of garbage it is.
meatmadpat
18 Jan 2004, 12:54
This article has really pissed me off. The gig in Sheffield on Thursday blew me away, I was in another world for three hours, my jaws ached with laughing at the antics and my voice was hoarse with singing and cheering :lol: Meat is the best , he rescheduled cos he cares about his fans and did'nt want to let us down.
I suggest we all take our copies of this artivle? cut in into four squares and take it to the smallest room and enjoy passing comment on it :lol: :lol:
Rosie :lol: :lol:
I suggest we all take our copies of this artivle? cut in into four squares and take it to the smallest room and enjoy passing comment on it :lol: :lol:
Rosie :lol: :lol:
Well said Rosie, its certainly all its good for!
This is somebody's opinion, and everybody is entitled to that.
Saying that however:
"'Hey! I didn't ask you to talk!!' he says when some fans dare open their mouths "
If that's true then Meat should be ashamed. You never do that.
needmoremeat
18 Jan 2004, 14:09
Well, that wasn't the type of thing I wanted to see in the paper the day before I see him :evil: I found it amusing when he said at AFL everyone wondered what he wouldn't do. He was the only one there who didn't, then! Also, what is rock theatre? I always thought it was rock opera? :wink: :roll: Also that guy was a "pop" reviewer, and for not enjoying it he certainly made a lot of it: biggest review, nice big picture.
Anyway, screw that guy, I'm going to the Telewest tomorrow (that was another thing in the MoS: it said the one tomorrow is at the Metro Radio hall or something???? Never even heard of it!!!! It would be funny if it wasn't the one I was going to!) and I'm gonna have a blast!!! As for opening my mouth to talk to Mam, I wouldn't have dared even before reading that article, being four rows away from him :D
black dog
18 Jan 2004, 14:14
This is somebody's opinion, and everybody is entitled to that.
Saying that however:
"'Hey! I didn't ask you to talk!!' he says when some fans dare open their mouths "
If that's true then Meat should be ashamed. You never do that.
The only time I have heard Meat tell people to shut up I was so pleased because I was trying to listen to the show and they were really p***ing me off. That was at Birmingham in November. The people involved were shouting over the top of him not just talking.
Saying that however:
"'Hey! I didn't ask you to talk!!' he says when some fans dare open their mouths "
If that's true then Meat should be ashamed. You never do that.
Sinecure - you hadta be there - in context, Meat wasn't being rude to the fans at all - at least i didn't feel he was. It was in middle of Took The Words and he'd asked for complete silence so he could talk to us - he then said something about feeling completely better, and some fans cheered - as you do, and thats when Meat pipped up with 'Hey i didn't ask you to talk!!' It was actually quite amusing.
LostSoul
18 Jan 2004, 14:57
This journalist may have his own opinion and I have mine.
One of these:
a) he's deaf and blind
b) he fell asleep (shame on him!)
c) he's on drugs (poor guy!)
or 3 out of 3!
So, do not let a short minded journalist (blame it on his parents who probably paid for his studies) ruin it all!
Right you are heat, the interaction (is that a word?) it's just for fun!
And if you're lucky enough to be in the front just respond "Shut up yourself!" 8)
DIZZY DRUMMER
18 Jan 2004, 17:06
Black dog wrote:
The only time I have heard Meat tell people to shut up I was so pleased because I was trying to listen to the show and they were really p***ing me off. That was at Birmingham in November. The people involved were shouting over the top of him not just talking.
I was at that concert & Meat had every right to tell them to shut up - they were morons :evil:
As for the article in the paper today - what a load of crap :bicker:
Meat looks & sounds great :wink:
shadow1000001
18 Jan 2004, 17:12
This journalist may have his own opinion and I have mine.
One of these:
a) he's deaf and blind
b) he fell asleep (shame on him!)
c) he's on drugs (poor guy!)
or 3 out of 3!
So, do not let a short minded journalist (blame it on his parents who probably paid for his studies) ruin it all!
Right you are heat, the interaction (is that a word?) it's just for fun!
And if you're lucky enough to be in the front just respond "Shut up yourself!" 8)
I like your thinking 8)
rachelba
18 Jan 2004, 17:56
If he's so bad why does he paly to sell out audiences every where he goes? Seems to me that the so called reporter is insulting the fans rather than the grea man himself!!!
This journalist may have his own opinion and I have mine.
One of these:
a) he's deaf and blind
b) he fell asleep (shame on him!)
c) he's on drugs (poor guy!)
or 3 out of 3!
So, do not let a short minded journalist (blame it on his parents who probably paid for his studies) ruin it all!
Right you are heat, the interaction (is that a word?) it's just for fun!
And if you're lucky enough to be in the front just respond "Shut up yourself!" 8)
I like your thinking 8)
You and me both !!
Vicki
.... MUST be a pop critic... since when did Meat ever "dance" on stage... save for a few little bits... who does this person think Meat is... INSYNC???...
... but to HECK with all the pipsqueek said... HE KNOCKED US YANKS ... for being... ... SAY IT ... FAT... the bastid... :evil:
... but i'll leave you with this folks... as i alllways say...
those that can DO ...
and those that CAN'T ... are critics...
and Meat... well... he's a CAN DO type of guy ay?
tink...XO
The Flying Mouse
18 Jan 2004, 19:35
His voice hasn't changed since Bat Out Of Hell ruled the album chart : it's still the sound of a plaintive mammoth.
:twisted: I love the way this guy tries to insult him by saying his voice is still the same :lmao:
Let's face it, when you can still sing like you did when you did 25 years ago that's pretty impresive.How about Frank Sinatra?He still had a great voice at the end of his career.I dare say no one complained that he always sounded the same :roll: .
And yes, Bat ruled the charts, and still makes regular appearences in the rock charts.What's his point?
One pop reviewer Vs. thousands of happy fans.Not a bad balance :wink: .
Steven Steinman
18 Jan 2004, 19:56
The problem is when people who review a some one like Meat they dont seem to understand Meat is acting and the character is Meat. Its just all an act to entertain the fans who understand whats going on so when he tells you to shut up its not to be took the wrong way. Hope I have made this clear hahahahah.
Keep Rockin Meat and you guys.
Steve Steinman
The problem is when people who review a some one like Meat they dont seem to understand Meat is acting and the character is Meat. Its just all an act to entertain the fans who understand whats going on so when he tells you to shut up its not to be took the wrong way. Hope I have made this clear hahahahah.
Keep Rockin Meat and you guys.
Steve Steinman
I Couldn't Have Said It Better Steve :))
Keep rockin' too !!
Vicki
His voice is the same as it was 25 years ago??
That’s a new take on things just sent to test us!!
I can easily come back and argue with people who are negative about an aging voice but what do you say when they moan about a voice that hasn’t changed?!
Take that review for what it is. Crap.
Luke
DIZZY DRUMMER
18 Jan 2004, 22:30
http://www.platinumrogue.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/smilies/cussing.gif
http://www.platinumrogue.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/smilies/bash.gif
thats what I think
What a load of codswallop.utter, utter , utter garbage. :roll: :twisted: :nuts: , Meat will forever rock. 8) :wink:
Hmm carol mouse,
codswallop, I'd best learn the language quick before we get there. :!: I think I get the general drift of it tho. You didn't like the review? :o Personally, I think he's a putz! Or a numbnuts.
A reviewer can certainly not like a performance, but this one was glaring in his bias in several instances. He did admit the crowd liked the performance. So he has bad taste in music. I think he sucks.
JMHO
T
Well no more Mail on Sunday for me.
I'll have to change from my usual MOS and News of World to..........NOW and Sunday Sport :D
Ahhhhh what a shame :wink:
its a review of someone who dont understand what is Meat is doing. its someone who dont understand the songs of Jim Steinman. Its someone who dont understand that meat is acting his songs. Its just another journalist. Just a journalist like the others who said after the bat one AND bat 2 release that it was crap. How can anyone compare Peter gabriel with Meat is beyond me. If you do that you dont know shit.
what a load of crap
ive a good mind to write a strongly worded letter to that man from the mail on sunday
bah :evil:
as j.loafer said meat acts on stage thats why we all love him as this reporter hasnt seen him live more than 10 times he wont understand but least did a review see everyone at tonights gig
AndrewG
19 Jan 2004, 16:45
Another attempt by the Media trying to tell us what we should listen to. If we all did that life would be quite boring.
The fact that such reporters have a job is inexplainable.
I would like to see the reporter trying to tell this to Meat Loaf in person. I'm sure the reporter would not have long to live. And rightly so! :lol:
The Flying Mouse
19 Jan 2004, 17:41
I would like to see the reporter trying to tell this to Meat Loaf in person. I'm sure the reporter would not have long to live. And rightly so! :lol:
:twisted: I'd rather have him tell it to his shrink.
He obviously has issues :nuts:
Kitty Kat
19 Jan 2004, 19:18
What absolute utter rubbish. :x :x He obviously hasn't been to any of the shows I have seen. Wish I could do some of things today that I could 25 years ago.
AndrewG
19 Jan 2004, 21:32
:twisted: I'd rather have him tell it to his shrink.
He obviously has issues :nuts:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:twisted: I'd rather have him tell it to his shrink.
He obviously has issues :nuts:
And as a qualified Psychotherapist, i'm sure that we can come to some arrangements about an hourly rate... :evil: :evil: :evil:
When Meat was here in St. Louis, Mo. USA last year, he came into the audience to yell at this one poor guy. My husband and son was sitting right in back of him. After the show, my husband said that he wished that Meat would have picked on him instead 'cause he'd love to have sang the song. And he didn't even know it was part of the act!!!! He loved it! And my son reached over and tapped Meat on the shoulder. Thank goodness Meat was so into caricature he didn't notice ( or at least he didn't say anything).
A real fan would know how Meat acts and does his shows. Those who don't had better learn or stay home if they don't like it. It was my husbands first Meat concert and after the show we were lucky enough to get to go on the bus and he told him that it was the best he's ever seen.
I had a bag full of stuff to get signed, and my husband gave Meat my bio. book for him to sign. He asked him if he'd sign it to Mary...he says that he doesn't personalize anything. Husband said that was fine, but the next day he looked and he personalized it to me after all. That is Meat's personality, he's a big tease.
Mary
shadow1000001
20 Jan 2004, 04:56
:twisted: I'd rather have him tell it to his shrink.
He obviously has issues :nuts:
And as a qualified Psychotherapist, i'm sure that we can come to some arrangements about an hourly rate... :evil: :evil: :evil:
Remind me NOT to get on your bad side :twisted: :wink:
Maria
Skeleton
20 Jan 2004, 15:32
LostSoul wrote:This journalist may have his own opinion and I have mine.
One of these:
a) he's deaf and blind
b) he fell asleep (shame on him!)
c) he's on drugs (poor guy!)
or 3 out of 3!
:lol: :lol:
That was good. :lmao:
THE FLYING MOUSE WROTE::twisted: I'd rather have him tell it to his shrink.
He obviously has issues :nuts: :lmao: :lmao:
angel eyes
20 Jan 2004, 23:43
Some people just don't get it. I don't want to go and see Meat to listen to him copying his CD's - it's all the extras that make it extra special.
If I'd bought the paper (which I'm glad I didn't and yes I can read) I would have put it in the place it deserves - at the bottom of my guniea pigs cage!!!!
Stupid man!!!
Love
Angelxxx
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