R.I.P Jim Steinman

[Monstro]

Can't find the words............

"Steinman died Monday in Connecticut, according to the state's medical examiner. The cause of death is unclear. We do know it appears it was sudden ... there was a medical emergency call to his home around 3:30 AM Sunday to transport a male patient."

[amethyst]

So very, very sad. His music has seen me through some pretty tough times in one way or another. There will never be another like him.

[Tina.K.]

Could this be a hoax?

Is TMZ reliable?

[K1ttycat]

It is also being reported at Metro.co.uk, although they are referring to TMZ as the source. I remember TMZ breaking the news when Michael Jackson died and so hoping it to be a hoax as well.

So, so sad and devastated.

[anotherday]

Jaquline confirmed on Facebook that this is indeed true.

God...I am absolutely shattered.

Thank you for everything, Jim.

The beat is yours, forever.

[ThatWriterGuy]

Godspeed, old friend.

[AndrewG]

From kiddie discos at school friends' homes in The Netherlands around 1990 hearing the overpowering unbeatable "Though it's cold and lonely in the deep dark night...." chorus
To all the songs, all of them, all the ideas, all the visual stuff, all the crazy stuff, all the beautiful stuff, all the spoken word stuff, all the inspiration you drew from and passed on
To inspire me to tinker on keyboards teaching myself some piano and composition and doing some of my own performances with your music, even getting a wow reaction from a packed teenage crowd performing Anything for Love on keyboards in 1995 at the Patronaat in Haarlem, The Netherlands (unforgettable).
To inspire me to learn about the importance of dynamics and counterpoint in music
To inspiring me to discover Pandora's Box and other musicals from Andrew Lloyd Webber and beyond.
To making me see Meat Loaf sing your gorgeous songs live for the first time in 1996
To continuing to make me follow Meat's live journey, meeting the man himself, the band, Patti (:heart:) & making friends
To inspiring me to discover Springsteen and all his stuff
To making me tear up every time when listening to that one unreleased piece that is so god damn beautiful with your hammering piano: Vespers / Angels Arise
To you personally taking the time to appreciating my love for your lyric "Looks like it's gonna be a dark one tonight..."
To inspiring me to dream when I listen to music, always
To inspiring me to always wanting to go over the top to see what's on the other side...



For that I thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you very much Jim!

Rest in peace my dearest friend.

:heart:

[meat_loaf]

R.I.P to my favorite song writer off all time, he will be flying high up there will Alan and Bob like a Bat out of Hell.

I loved all his music.
Your legend will live on forever.
Goodbye Jim.

[nightinr]

Thanks for the memories Jim

[Sebastian.]

Heartbroken.

A huge part of my life, my past has gone. No matter what Jim’s music always lead me out of dark times to some happiness.

Thank you.

[Wario]

If Life is just a highway, the soul is just a car.

heaven can wait Jim, keep rocking

[PanicLord]

Look at me, and read 'em, and weep.

RIP

[Mick Loaf]

Sad, sad news 😭

For crying out loud,
You know I love you

[hayley]

Can’t believe the news...RIP Jim

[GenoJLaw]

RIP Jim, Without you there would be no Meat Loaf and for that I thank you.

[GenoJLaw]

If Anyone has the Jim Steinman and Karla DeVito music video for Dance in my Pants can you please upload it to YouTube. It was on YouTube for awhile then it was gone. Thanks

[EddieJ1984]

It is so strange, I felt compelled to put on Bad For Good earlier today (Also Dead Ringer after) for the first time in a few months and then logged into here for the first time since a year ago. Then later saw.
We lost a genius, legend today, Rest In Peace Jim Steinman, let the altars shine.

[AndrewG]

I usually don't rate the mainstream media much these days but this is a very well written and well researched article on BBC news:

Bat Out Of Hell composer Jim Steinman dies (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56825060)

[AndrewG]

If Anyone has the Jim Steinman and Karla DeVito music video for Dance in my Pants can you please upload it to YouTube. It was on YouTube for awhile then it was gone. Thanks

I wouldn't attempt uploading it to YT, knowing Sony it probably gets you a strike on your account or blocked in certain regions. :roll:

It's on Vimeo (https://vimeo.com/301610150) and you can temporary download it from the link here (https://ufile.io/xq9a8fk3) if that helps.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

RIP Jim.

Thank you for a lifetime of rock and roll dreams. :heart:

[mib]

ALL IS WELL.

Death is nothing at all, I have only slipped into the next room. I am I and you are you.
Whatever we were to each other, that is we are still.

Call me by my old familiar name, speak to me in the easy way which you always used.
Put no difference in your tone, wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow. Laugh as we always laughed at the little jokes we enjoyed together.

Play, smile, think of me, pray for me. Let my name be ever the household word that it always was. Let it be spoken without effect, without the trace of shadow on it.

Life means all that it ever meant. It is the same as it ever was, there is unbroken continuity.
Why should I be out of mind because I am out of sight?

I am waiting for you, for an interval, somewhere very near, just around the corner.
All is well.

Henry Scott Holland.

[Tina.K.]

Is there somewhere a list with ALL songs Jimmy wrote?

[FrancineCyclesTheUS]

ALL IS WELL.

Death is nothing at all, I have only slipped into the next room. I am I and you are you.
Whatever we were to each other, that is we are still.

Call me by my old familiar name, speak to me in the easy way which you always used.
Put no difference in your tone, wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow. Laugh as we always laughed at the little jokes we enjoyed together.

Play, smile, think of me, pray for me. Let my name be ever the household word that it always was. Let it be spoken without effect, without the trace of shadow on it.

Life means all that it ever meant. It is the same as it ever was, there is unbroken continuity.
Why should I be out of mind because I am out of sight?

I am waiting for you, for an interval, somewhere very near, just around the corner.
All is well.

Henry Scott Holland.

This is very beautiful.. Beautiful in all the pain. :-(

[FrancineCyclesTheUS]

This is what Andrew Polec posted on Twitter:
“The beat is yours forever
The beat is always true
And when you really really need it the most
That’s when rock and roll dreams come through for you”
I’m at a loss for words. Sending so much love to
@realjimsteinman
. He healed so many hearts. Thx 4 healing mine. #ripjimsteinman''

THX FOR HEALING MINE!

Forever *lost*.. I am in tears. Heartbroken.
Your music and your words changed my life, there is no one and no thing that EVER had more influence to my life than your works. You made me come ALIVE. I am speechless, I am so thankful. For every word. Every line. Every lyric..

Mr. Steinman.. I'll love you forever! My true love.

[FrancineCyclesTheUS]

Is there somewhere a list with ALL songs Jimmy wrote?
I guess you already know this site?

https://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/

[Frying Bat]

A Great lost of a Great man, all support for his friends and familiy

[Evil One]

Sad news, but by most accounts Jim had been in an awful state the last few years so it's probably for the best. :shrug:

RIP the greatest songwriter in history.

[Michael Marxen]

A genius is immortal through his art

[R.]

Sad news. Farewell, Jim. :(

[Meat Loaf_fan]

R.I.P to the best of song writers.
I feel very, very sad.

[FrancineCyclesTheUS]

For Jim I hope RIP means less ''Rest in Peace''
but ,,Rock in Pandemonium'' :-)

[eltmatt]

RIP Jim, hope we get some unreleased stuff perhaps?

btw, was Jim gay?

[letsgotoofar]

btw, was Jim gay?

Not that that's especially relevant... but, based on what I knew of him in the time that I attempted to broker work with the man, I would say yes.

[Sabine]

Very sad News, thank you Jim for all your great Songs.
Never forget these.
Sabine

[wizardofodd]

A little thing I wrote on the Rockman FB page but something i wanted to share here too:

I’m so sad to see Jim leave this earth. Like many here, his work has had a profound impact on my life. I’ve always felt like Jim wrote every song just for me, that was part of his magic – to touch your heart with his poetry of emotion. Often OTT, outrageous, loud and yes at times a little bit camp. He was the master of the rock opera, Shakespeare with an electric guitar. Often replicated, never beaten – one of a kind.

I sing songs to my kids to get them to sleep (one of my kids is just a few weeks old) More often than not it’s a Steinman track, usually For Crying Out Loud or Rock and Roll Dreams – or might be bold and sing Objects. They are songs dear to my heart. Words I can still muster at any hour of the day no matter how tired I feel, indeed if you hold onto a chorus you can get through the night.

I thank Jim for those words. We are a lucky bunch here. Many don’t ‘get it’ and many never will. We do. How blessed we are.

Thanks for the ride Jim. x

[needmoremeat]

Such sad news. :"(

Found out on Wednesday afternoon via MLConcert's YouTube channel and I went straight to Meat's FB page for the confirmation. It's going to take a while before I can put together some coherent thoughts on exactly what Jim's music has meant for me in my life. I know he hasn't been well the past few years, but it's still gut-wrenching to think that he's no longer with us.

"Every golden nugget coming like a gift of the gods. Someone must have blessed us when he gave us those songs."

[Dick]

RIP JIM

If anythings to come of it, its nice to see some of the older posters here to pay their respects. its the same with the rockman board. very moving.

[Danny L]

I know it’s been a few days but I have been thinking about Jim Steinman.

I was being driven home from school by my mum when a song called Bat Out of Hell came on. They played the whole thing. She got the CD out and I went into a new world. Paradise by the Dashboard Light was something else. I loved it and I heard Bat 2. I’m old enough to remember Anything For Love in the charts.

I went deeper into his world thanks to internet research, Bad For Good, Tanz Der Vampire and more. One thing about Jim is he reused musical and lyrical phrases regularly, I liked that. It made it all feel like one big tapestry.

Even demos that made it onto the web were incredible. Like many artists he had so many projects that never happened. One of those was the Bat Out of Hell musical. Far more than another We Will Rock You, this stemmed from 1969’s The Dream Engine, after so many rewrites as stage shows and screenplays it finally opened in Manchester 2017. I saw it 3 times. A fantastic bombastic production.

Steinman often said if you don’t go over the top, you won’t see what’s on the other side.

Well Mr Steinman, now your on the other side, the beat is yours forever. And for crying out loud, we thank you.

[EddieJ1984]

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/meat-loaf-remembers-jim-steinman-1160041/?fbclid=IwAR2VkxkJ4Q35bTcp4OLAB2E8BNCx_X0M2OA1gwbwDhYPKTjpxeZa5HIv88E

Warning: You will probably need some tissues after reading this.

[needmoremeat]

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/meat-loaf-remembers-jim-steinman-1160041/?fbclid=IwAR2VkxkJ4Q35bTcp4OLAB2E8BNCx_X0M2OA1gwbwDhYPKTjpxeZa5HIv88E

Warning: You will probably need some tissues after reading this.

Wow, thank you so much for sharing this. 💔

[ThatWriterGuy]

I listened to Bad for Good today. If any of you have read my website, and I know that most of you have, you'll realize that Jim and I had a conflicted relationship, to say the least.

None of that matters today.

Not this week. This month. Or even this year. Whatever you will hear, whatever happens and however things are described in the future or have been described in the past, it will never take away what he meant, what the music meant, how he affected our lives and was instrumental, in some way, in fashioning the people that we turned out to be. For me, Jim was a hand in the dark when I needed it the most, and when I think back to the hours of conversations that we had I can't help but feel the loss and the burden that comes with the passing of someone I cared about.

I will miss him.

It wasn't always easy, and it wasn't always right, but I will miss him. It feels like an alien world without Jim Steinman on the planet. I hope that, if there is more, something else, another reality for the consciousness to inhabit, that Jim finds the peace he never found in life. We were friends, we were colleagues. He was my mentor, he was my tormentor. Wherever he is now, I wish him well.

I miss my friend today.

A tribute and a memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nz14C0ccOc

[nightinr]

I listened to Bad for Good today. If any of you have read my website, and I know that most of you have, you'll realize that Jim and I had a conflicted relationship, to say the least.

None of that matters today.

Not this week. This month. Or even this year. Whatever you will hear, whatever happens and however things are described in the future or have been described in the past, it will never take away what he meant, what the music meant, how he affected our lives and was instrumental, in some way, in fashioning the people that we turned out to be. For me, Jim was a hand in the dark when I needed it the most, and when I think back to the hours of conversations that we had I can't help but feel the loss and the burden that comes with the passing of someone I cared about.

I will miss him.

It wasn't always easy, and it wasn't always right, but I will miss him. It feels like an alien world without Jim Steinman on the planet. I hope that, if there is more, something else, another reality for the consciousness to inhabit, that Jim finds the peace he never found in life. We were friends, we were colleagues. He was my mentor, he was my tormentor. Wherever he is now, I wish him well.

I miss my friend today.

A tribute and a memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nz14C0ccOc

Can you put a link up to your website with the stories about Jim?

Looking forward to your work with patti being released. Fo you have a date planned?

[ThatWriterGuy]

Can you put a link up to your website with the stories about Jim?

It's probably best to keep this page as a tribute, however, if you should feel so inclined, you can find the site via the description in the podcast drop-down.


Looking forward to your work with patti being released. Fo you have a date planned?

We're on hiatus given the circumstances, so let's go with 'coming soon' and see where that path takes us.

[nightinr]

Can't seem to find anything on the link ...am I looking in the right place?

[ThatWriterGuy]

Jim was heroic.

During the last fifteen years Jim suffered at least 9 strokes. He lost the ability to speak on several occasions, only to double down and relearn the mechanics behind the English language all over again. In 2009 he suffered a near fatal heart attack.

This is a very small part of our conversation:

" Dr Karl Krieger, a Norse "hunk" who was like a Germanic Hi$ler Youth captain! Anyway, I didn't know him, as he was class of 1970, I was '69. But in 2011 I was asked by a "different" quack cardiologist to get an angiogram, where under local sedation, they put cameras up your arteries and SEE WTF is going on! He was worried that my heart was pumping way below normal or minimal amount! This was PRESBYTERREAN MED CENTER, one of the best in the world! And I was told that Dr. Wong, who would be doing it, was "a God! He is NEVER WRONG!". "Jim, I'm actually wishing that he'll say YOU NEED open heart surgery--only way I can see you living." So I had the procedure. Dr. Wong spoke in very broken English. He kept muttering and shaking his head "empathetically". At the end all I got out from him was "No Surgery! Only medicines now! I'll call your cardiologist & explain!" You then HAVE to lie on your back and STILL for 6 hours! I was feeling pretty good! ONLY MEDS! No surgery required! "I got off easy."

After the 6 hours, I talked to Dr Tyberg, my cardio guy. "No Jim, it's NOT good news from Wong! It was the WORST POSSSIBLE news! There IS no surgery to be done! No coronary artery bypass to even try! He was saying, "Just take meds for mental stability and ~~~~ing wait till you die!" I was floored--I was gonna die soon! I went numb! For FOUR ~~~~ing days I didn't reflect or observe or ANY~~~~INGTHING! I was GONNA DIE SOON! That numbness lasted until I got a phone call from a Dr, Karl Krieger, affiliated with the hospital--"Jim? Is this the Jim Steinman from Amherst College? The one who wrote and starred in DREAM ENGINE?---Well I saw that show TWICE!----I saw your name on a form of "daily proceedures, cardiac, at the hospital! I wondered if it was YOU. I'm Amherst '70, and I know they told you it was "fatal" but I need to tell you that--I CAN DO A SURGERY ON YOU! I watched the angiogram tape & I saw what Dr. Wong saw! BUT--I CAN DO IT!!" I muttered some heartfelt, incoherent THANKS & hung up! I was so obsessed that I called him back three hours later!
Me: "Dr Krieger, did you mean you could "open me up" & "fiddle with things" and possibly close me up same as be4?" He said "NO! If I say I can do it, I mean an actual coronary bypass! I know Wong said not, but at least 75% of all cardiac sugeons would agree! BUT I CAN DO IT!". This was the champion wrestler coming thru!!!
I had it on Feb 22 2010--Krieger actually did A TRIPLE BYPASS!" I had asked Tyberg if open heart surgery was painful--he said "Believe me, PAIN is the LAST thing you'll have on your mind!"

And boy, was he right! Pain WAS the last thing on my mind! Afterward (keep in mind that like my song, they took my heart, "still beating, still beating/breaking out of my body" and placed in a large tin, like for roasting ham, where it sat, a machine doing all the work, for SIX HOURS! Then they put it back! And I had "another few years"."

No matter what happened between us on a personal and professional level, I can say that we shared some pretty intense times together. Jim never complained about his ailments. He was always focused on other things.
That sounds pretty heroic to me.

[ajf33]

Can't seem to find anything on the link ...am I looking in the right place?

sent you a pm with the link.

[aks650]

Can theses stories be viewed? Be nice to read some of them!

[ThatWriterGuy]

Trust me, you don't want to read them right now.
Instead, remember Jim for everything he did within music. Remember him for the mark he left on your life, as I will remember him for the mark that he left on mine.
Maybe the first podcast will simply be 'Jim Steinman'.
Thinking aloud.
You can't deny what he meant to people, how he shaped an entire genre of music and provided the soundtrack to so many people's youths.
Nothing is black or white.
Today I'm grateful for the good times.

[needmoremeat]

Well, it's safe to say that the past few days, I've felt like Meat in the "Read 'Em and Weep" video: slumped over the typewriter at the desk, head in hands, struggling to find the words to explain exactly what Jim Steinman and his music has meant to me.

I finally finished and published it on my LinkedIn profile this afternoon (was going to put it on my blog, but was having trouble with the formatting of the lyric quotes, and the image - even now the lyric snippets still don't look right).

Hope it's okay for me to share the link here? Let me know if it's not and I'll remove it. Basically it's a tribute piece, with some background info, the story of how I discovered his music, and the impact it's had on my life.

Oh, and it happens to be as long as one of his songs!

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/fans-tribute-jim-steinman-catherine-tuckwell

[AndrewG]

Woah. Never heard this one before. Knew there were demos of an earlier / Steinman music version of A kiss but didn't know about Pandora's Box's one.
Loving all the YouTube recommendations I'm getting.

Pandora's Box - A Kiss Is a Terrible Thing to Waste (Jim Steinman demo 1989)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtCl9smGxwE&ab_channel=TheArchivist

[letsgotoofar]

~~~~~~~ copped it from me, most likely. :P But yeah, it's a good tune.

[AndrewG]

~~~~~~~ copped it from me, most likely. :P But yeah, it's a good tune.

Figured something like that happened, that it was sourced from one of the regulars going by some comments on the video.

Good to hear though.

Interestingly the original Jim Steinman messageboard was I think one of the first places I ever signed up to on the internet back in 1998. It was interesting hearing snippets of demos (tiny short wav files) of recordings I never knew existed and just a whole wealth of info became available to me.

I was pretty naive in those days as I didn't have internet at home before I got to uni. Besides visiting the Jim Steinman site regularly, I remember once I typed in Queen dot com thinking it would be the official Queen site. (No one had heard of Google). Instead that url led me to the worst kind of porn at the time whilst I was in the middle of a busy IT lab. :oops: :lol:

[Bart]

What can I say. I was in shock. Terrible news.

[Dick]

... I remember once I typed in Queen dot com thinking it would be the official Queen site. (No one had heard of Google). Instead that url led me to the worst kind of porn at the time whilst I was in the middle of a busy IT lab. :oops: :lol:

lol. but less that 5 minutes later you discovered yourself typing tit dot com or something like that!

[Tina.K.]

On the 25th of May 2013 when Meat was performing at Men Arena at Manchester for his Last At Bat tour (I flew to England from the Netherlands that morning to be there), Jim had a speech at Amherst. In fact, Meat told us on stage how proud he was of Jim about this.

The speech is in the link. Awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QgDGpIFiio

[ThatWriterGuy]

I thought about putting this up as part of Kitchen Sink, but I think I'll just leave it here instead.

"Jimmy, Jimmy" - Josefus, 1970.

http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwKVLCrcjWo