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Fire Ball
19 Jun 2016, 09:46
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I have been upset all day !! I came here not expecting what I ran into !!
I had a person accusing of passing out and faking it to sell tickets . People everywhere telling me I am Lip lip syncing the whole show !! because they heard the Double vocal in the background after I passed out , it's a double vocal that is on the record from 94 ' the band had stopped , the BG's weren't singing , so all you heard was the double . I didn't wake up till I was at the Hospital . I was faking it wrote one woman . I wanted to leave the Hospital but they would not let me . I had people wanting a refund when I was about 9 or 10 mins from the end of the show . They had heard Bat,Paradise,Took the words , 2 outa 3,
Revved up, Frying pan, Break it , the opening and other songs . I had been on for almost an hour and 40 mins. Right now I am not well !! I am going to try and do the show on Tues . Had another guy write that I do this passing out all the time just to make money and never give refunds . Lets take that night in Newcastle. Yes I had to stop , but I came back and charged 5 pounds a ticket to only cover the cost of the building !! Also gave everyone a free CD . So yes I am upset !! MY wife and Frances have yelled at me !! I am sorry . It goes back to my 1st Broadway show "Hair" and the song "How can People be so Heartless" Again sorry !! I feel very bad for coming here an attacking !!
LOve YA,
M
nightinr
19 Jun 2016, 09:51
That what makes you so great Meat that you are so passionate. We don't want a boring, bland person we want somebody who wears his heart on his sleeve. That is why you're such a great performer and why so many people from around the world want to see you in concert.
Please come back to the UK! We need to see you again!
PanicLord
19 Jun 2016, 09:51
Totally get it Meat. I would have reacted the exact same way. Take care of yourself and bask in all the excitement around the new album. Keep on rocking!
Tina.K.
19 Jun 2016, 10:14
I already was afraid some idiot would say you were doing it on purpose to sell tickets or get attention for the new album. I had hoped you wouldn't hear such bullshit. I understand why it upsets you.
Last month I lost my dad of cancer. Same age as you. Went to my first Meat-concert with him when I was 13 years old, 1988.
All that matters is your health, your family, your passion and love. Nothing more important than that.
Love you!
I know how you feel Meat. I own a Mobile Coffee Van and some low life stole our road side signs today. Assholes are everywhere.:evil::!:
anotherday
19 Jun 2016, 11:18
Oh Meat. I love you. I'm sorry you had to deal with everything you're going through. I'm sorry it's been an incredibly rough week. I'm sorry that some people in this world just want to watch it all burn and cause trouble. Keep your head high. You have brought joy to SO many, myself and my boyfriend included. You have brought us closer together as a couple. YOU did that. I can't thank you enough for all you've done for me. You've saved my life. It's true; if it wasn't for you there would be no me!
NightAngel
19 Jun 2016, 11:34
Meat,
No need to apologise.. as i said in the previous thread...I wont repeat it here again.
Know you are loved and highly regarded and respected.
Lots of Love
Vx
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It goes back to my 1st Broadway show "Hair" and the song "How can People be so Heartless" Again sorry !! I feel very bad for coming here an attacking !!
LOve YA,
M
It takes a big man to say he's sorry; small ones to be heartless, ignore another's feelings, kick a man when he's down.
I'd say you have no need to apologise as far as I'm concerned, but I know you feel you do because of the man you are. Two and a half thousand people left messages within 2 hours of the update posted on your FB page. 99.5% at least were of concern for you (not their shows lined up) and love. The small balance who came to put the boot in said ridiculous and vile things which must have cut you to the quick .. but they were, and will always be, vastly outnumbered. Here nearly all those who posted simply wanted to show their concern. Take that to the bank .. because it's gold. It's deserved, but also freely given out of love. :-)
You will always have friends here, many who love you for who and what you are, not simply what you do for them; who give you permission to be who you are, love that passion you have, and always will. Now, sleep ;)
We all get mad sometime's it take's a big man to say sorry. That's what you are, our big man we all love. So take no notice of the negative stuff .And just know we all wish you well xx
Michael Marxen
19 Jun 2016, 13:02
Meat put his heart and soul in this record. Into every detail.
Am damn proud of him for making it happen!
I guess its hard to let loose and let the baby fly now, as things start to get out of their control: Like amazon prereleasing two tracks. Or the expected easy feedback of those jumping on the natural "limitations" (quotation marks!) of Braver. People have their opinions and are entitled not to attend a gig. But I don`t get those repeatedly coming to this place of love and excitement.
Braver is a dream come true!
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Default Very Sorry !!
I have been upset all day !! I came here not expecting what I ran into !!
I had a person accusing of passing out and faking it to sell tickets . People everywhere telling me I am Lip lip syncing the whole show !! because they heard the Double vocal in the background after I passed out , it's a double vocal that is on the record from 94 ' the band had stopped , the BG's weren't singing , so all you heard was the double . I didn't wake up till I was at the Hospital . I was faking it wrote one woman . I wanted to leave the Hospital but they would not let me . I had people wanting a refund when I was about 9 or 10 mins from the end of the show . They had heard Bat,Paradise,Took the words , 2 outa 3,
Revved up, Frying pan, Break it , the opening and other songs . I had been on for almost an hour and 40 mins. Right now I am not well !! I am going to try and do the show on Tues . Had another guy write that I do this passing out all the time just to make money and never give refunds . Lets take that night in Newcastle. Yes I had to stop , but I came back and charged 5 pounds a ticket to only cover the cost of the building !! Also gave everyone a free CD . So yes I am upset !! MY wife and Frances have yelled at me !! I am sorry . It goes back to my 1st Broadway show "Hair" and the song "How can People be so Heartless" Again sorry !! I feel very bad for coming here an attacking !!
LOve YA,
M
Absolutely no need for YOU, Meat, to be sorry and feeling bad!! But there are indeed a few people out there who should be very sorry: these narrow-minded hate-filled cowards whose only happiness in life seems to be to knock down others while hiding behind a big screen. Why else would someone be in a forum of an artist and write nothing but BS? These heartless, insensitive and cruel people are poor people, very poor people, but I can‘t even feel sorry for them. Luckily, there are only a few of them, very few, and they‘re easily outnumbered by the tens of thousands people (over 30k!!) who are showing their love and respect for you, Meat! And that‘s exactly what you deserve: love and respect! You‘ve given us so very much all over the years (decades!!) and you still do, you always do, and for that I thank you from the bottom of my heart! You will always have my love and deepest respect for being who you are!!
Please take care!!
Much love always!!
lorenzoduke
19 Jun 2016, 13:25
We love you, Meat. I hope you get some rest and can forget the vicious trolls, remember how well loved and respected you are by the vast majority, and do something nice for yourself today.
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I have been upset all day !! I came here not expecting what I ran into !!
I had a person accusing of passing out and faking it to sell tickets . People everywhere telling me I am Lip lip syncing the whole show !! because they heard the Double vocal in the background after I passed out , it's a double vocal that is on the record from 94 ' the band had stopped , the BG's weren't singing , so all you heard was the double . I didn't wake up till I was at the Hospital . I was faking it wrote one woman . I wanted to leave the Hospital but they would not let me . I had people wanting a refund when I was about 9 or 10 mins from the end of the show . They had heard Bat,Paradise,Took the words , 2 outa 3,
Revved up, Frying pan, Break it , the opening and other songs . I had been on for almost an hour and 40 mins. Right now I am not well !! I am going to try and do the show on Tues . Had another guy write that I do this passing out all the time just to make money and never give refunds . Lets take that night in Newcastle. Yes I had to stop , but I came back and charged 5 pounds a ticket to only cover the cost of the building !! Also gave everyone a free CD . So yes I am upset !! MY wife and Frances have yelled at me !! I am sorry . It goes back to my 1st Broadway show "Hair" and the song "How can People be so Heartless" Again sorry !! I feel very bad for coming here an attacking !!
LOve YA,
M
People can be so horrible sometimes :( You had every right to be upset Meat, and I honestly don't blame you
for reacting the way you did. Please take care of yourself, and I hope you feel better soon :heart:
Love you always
Vicki xo
mtaylor315
19 Jun 2016, 14:28
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I have been upset all day !! I came here not expecting what I ran into !!
I had a person accusing of passing out and faking it to sell tickets . People everywhere telling me I am Lip lip syncing the whole show !! because they heard the Double vocal in the background after I passed out , it's a double vocal that is on the record from 94 ' the band had stopped , the BG's weren't singing , so all you heard was the double . I didn't wake up till I was at the Hospital . I was faking it wrote one woman . I wanted to leave the Hospital but they would not let me . I had people wanting a refund when I was about 9 or 10 mins from the end of the show . They had heard Bat,Paradise,Took the words , 2 outa 3,
Revved up, Frying pan, Break it , the opening and other songs . I had been on for almost an hour and 40 mins. Right now I am not well !! I am going to try and do the show on Tues . Had another guy write that I do this passing out all the time just to make money and never give refunds . Lets take that night in Newcastle. Yes I had to stop , but I came back and charged 5 pounds a ticket to only cover the cost of the building !! Also gave everyone a free CD . So yes I am upset !! MY wife and Frances have yelled at me !! I am sorry . It goes back to my 1st Broadway show "Hair" and the song "How can People be so Heartless" Again sorry !! I feel very bad for coming here an attacking !!
LOve YA,
M
It was truly upsetting to see what happened a few days ago & it's ridiculous that some would believe you would fake it to sell tickets. You certainly don't need help to sell tickets, you're Meat Loaf after all :lol: I hope you continue to feel better & don't push yourself to get back on stage too soon. Rest and take care of yourself first and foremost. I work in customer service & know all too well that people will scream for a refund even if they have received more than their monies worth.
Get well soon Meat & know your true fans are always on your side. You'll always have our love and respect :-)
meatloaf5
19 Jun 2016, 14:28
I know how easy it is to let the few (in comparison) negative comments far outweigh the huge amount of positive and concerned comments. Try to not let them get to you - take them on board and reply honestly to them. 99% of people know it wasn`t faked - the 1% will always be there.
Just concentrate on getting well.
Much love from Jersey
loaferman61
19 Jun 2016, 14:41
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I have been upset all day !! I came here not expecting what I ran into !!
I had a person accusing of passing out and faking it to sell tickets . People everywhere telling me I am Lip lip syncing the whole show !! because they heard the Double vocal in the background after I passed out , it's a double vocal that is on the record from 94 ' the band had stopped , the BG's weren't singing , so all you heard was the double . I didn't wake up till I was at the Hospital . I was faking it wrote one woman . I wanted to leave the Hospital but they would not let me . I had people wanting a refund when I was about 9 or 10 mins from the end of the show . They had heard Bat,Paradise,Took the words , 2 outa 3,
Revved up, Frying pan, Break it , the opening and other songs . I had been on for almost an hour and 40 mins. Right now I am not well !! I am going to try and do the show on Tues . Had another guy write that I do this passing out all the time just to make money and never give refunds . Lets take that night in Newcastle. Yes I had to stop , but I came back and charged 5 pounds a ticket to only cover the cost of the building !! Also gave everyone a free CD . So yes I am upset !! MY wife and Frances have yelled at me !! I am sorry . It goes back to my 1st Broadway show "Hair" and the song "How can People be so Heartless" Again sorry !! I feel very bad for coming here an attacking !!
LOve YA,
M
Meat, when the record company put those 2 songs out the same day I knew people were going to claim you did it for the publicity. Most of us know you have had these spells over the years and unfortunately somebody compounded it by releasing things you obviously did not have anything to do with. I know that makes you angry. It would make anyone angry.
Please remember that one day something like this is going to go public and it won't look good with us being your loyal supporters. I know some say unkind things and that is the world today and the internet. Doesn't make it right. But it is "Hell in a Handbasket".
Everything is going to be OK. I had one of the worst days I have had in a good 10 years yesterday. It gets better.
As I said on the deleted thread. God bless you Meat. This too shall pass. Please take care of yourself. You got so many expressions of caring last week. Look at those and know it will be OK.
tonyloaf
19 Jun 2016, 14:58
Never stop rocking Meat!
loaferman61
19 Jun 2016, 15:22
Perhaps it is time to make a special thread for Meat where he can discuss the album and tour with us and where it is understood that it is his thread and maybe comments could be in a "pending" status until someone reviews them and if that takes some time to get to that is OK. It won't have the immediacy of fast interaction but it would save a lot of grief.
It would also make it easier for everyone to find his posts about the shows, the songs and the latest word on things.
I'm not trying to volunteer anyone for a "job" but just a suggestion.
I'd think a lot of work which is unlikely to be effective .. Meat can always view any thread and respond .. his right as a member of the forum, let alone the one who is the subject. Best way would be for people to simply think before they post about Meat, his work, his perfomance, remembering the words at the top of the page :
We ask that this should be done in a respectful manner
But this topic would be best taken to Feedback if anyone wants to pursue it
Perhaps it is time to make a special thread for Meat where he can discuss the album and tour with us and where it is understood that it is his thread and maybe comments could be in a "pending" status until someone reviews them and if that takes some time to get to that is OK. It won't have the immediacy of fast interaction but it would save a lot of grief.
It would also make it easier for everyone to find his posts about the shows, the songs and the latest word on things.
I'm not trying to volunteer anyone for a "job" but just a suggestion.
No.
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Default Very Sorry !!
I have been upset all day !! I came here not expecting what I ran into !!
I had a person accusing of passing out and faking it to sell tickets . People everywhere telling me I am Lip lip syncing the whole show !! because they heard the Double vocal in the background after I passed out , it's a double vocal that is on the record from 94 ' the band had stopped , the BG's weren't singing , so all you heard was the double . I didn't wake up till I was at the Hospital . I was faking it wrote one woman . I wanted to leave the Hospital but they would not let me . I had people wanting a refund when I was about 9 or 10 mins from the end of the show . They had heard Bat,Paradise,Took the words , 2 outa 3,
Revved up, Frying pan, Break it , the opening and other songs . I had been on for almost an hour and 40 mins. Right now I am not well !! I am going to try and do the show on Tues . Had another guy write that I do this passing out all the time just to make money and never give refunds . Lets take that night in Newcastle. Yes I had to stop , but I came back and charged 5 pounds a ticket to only cover the cost of the building !! Also gave everyone a free CD . So yes I am upset !! MY wife and Frances have yelled at me !! I am sorry . It goes back to my 1st Broadway show "Hair" and the song "How can People be so Heartless" Again sorry !! I feel very bad for coming here an attacking !!
LOve YA,
M
I can see why you were so upset and regardless of how upset you get, I'll always hear your vent out. I hate that all this happened to you. I am more worried about you getting well and distressing from all this crap about no refunds etc. Wish I could help, name it!
loaferman61
19 Jun 2016, 16:12
No.
I said it was just a suggestion. You know trying to be constructive and not negative. I further suggest that you avoid another row by stopping to act like you run this place. I know I don't. If you want to take it PM fine. Peace out... drops mic.
https://youtu.be/zANvYB93u2g
I said it was just a suggestion. You know trying to be constructive and not negative.
R and the other admins already put up with a lot. To monitize a thread like that would be rediculous.
I further suggest that you avoid another row by stopping to act like you run this place.
I'm so honored that you can assume so much from a one word post.
I'm really that fabulous? :))
loaferman61
19 Jun 2016, 17:15
R and the other admins already put up with a lot. To monitize a thread like that would be rediculous.
I'm so honored that you can assume so much from a one word post.
I'm really that fabulous? :))
Let's not bog down the thread any more please but I must say this since I suggested a PM but you didn't. Which is my point I suggested you PM and you didn't, but I respectfully gave you an option to not bring it here.
You do realize your one word was done in a way that seemed as though you think you have some authority though. Maybe they don't teach about McCarthyism any more or the witch hunts. The key word is "suggestion". I said it would be a lot of work. I'm done on this subject.
https://youtu.be/zIdUlp3QAsk
Not to do with anything on this thread ... wait... maybe ... yes... that Youtube clip ... that drop the mic thing has become tedious and boring and I was shocked and horrified, quite frankly, when my President did it ... :(
proctorloaf
19 Jun 2016, 17:36
We love ya Meat! Ax
Let's not bog down the thread any more please but I must say this since I suggested a PM but you didn't. Which is my point I suggested you PM and you didn't, but I respectfully gave you an option to not bring it here.
You do realize your one word was done in a way that seemed as though you think you have some authority though. Maybe they don't teach about McCarthyism any more or the witch hunts. The key word is "suggestion". I said it would be a lot of work. I'm done on this subject.
https://youtu.be/zIdUlp3QAsk
Relax.
Perhaps it is time to make a special thread for Meat where he can discuss the album and tour with us and where it is understood that it is his thread and maybe comments could be in a "pending" status until someone reviews them and if that takes some time to get to that is OK. It won't have the immediacy of fast interaction but it would save a lot of grief.
It would also make it easier for everyone to find his posts about the shows, the songs and the latest word on things.
I'm not trying to volunteer anyone for a "job" but just a suggestion.
To put an end to this and as a reminder to stay on topic:
Yes, we could set up a moderation queue for posts in a certain areas. IIRC this was discussed before, check the feedback forum. In my opinion it's way too much effort to monitor the queue and it will eventually kill any conversation. Now you might get a slap on the wrist on posting something deemed inappropriate, a moderation queue will shut everyone up until we think a post is worth going public. Despite my struggling to translate my german thinking to english, I hope you see the difference. Head over to the feedback area if you want to discuss this any further.
Evil Ernie
19 Jun 2016, 19:54
Very happy to see this thread.
LuuuuvMeat
19 Jun 2016, 20:49
Love ya, Meat!
renegadeangel
20 Jun 2016, 02:47
Something I noticed on Jim's facebook page. Thought it was very nice and appropriate to share...
Nothin' Stops him.. "Keep On Rock'n Big Fella"... Jim Steinman;)....
Tina.K.
20 Jun 2016, 11:19
Something I noticed on Jim's facebook page. Thought it was very nice and appropriate to share...
Nothin' Stops him.. "Keep On Rock'n Big Fella"... Jim Steinman;)....
Can't find it on Jim's page? Or is it me being blond again...
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Default Very Sorry !!
I have been upset all day !! I came here not expecting what I ran into !!
I had a person accusing of passing out and faking it to sell tickets . People everywhere telling me I am Lip lip syncing the whole show !! because they heard the Double vocal in the background after I passed out , it's a double vocal that is on the record from 94 ' the band had stopped , the BG's weren't singing , so all you heard was the double . I didn't wake up till I was at the Hospital . I was faking it wrote one woman . I wanted to leave the Hospital but they would not let me . I had people wanting a refund when I was about 9 or 10 mins from the end of the show . They had heard Bat,Paradise,Took the words , 2 outa 3,
Revved up, Frying pan, Break it , the opening and other songs . I had been on for almost an hour and 40 mins. Right now I am not well !! I am going to try and do the show on Tues . Had another guy write that I do this passing out all the time just to make money and never give refunds . Lets take that night in Newcastle. Yes I had to stop , but I came back and charged 5 pounds a ticket to only cover the cost of the building !! Also gave everyone a free CD . So yes I am upset !! MY wife and Frances have yelled at me !! I am sorry . It goes back to my 1st Broadway show "Hair" and the song "How can People be so Heartless" Again sorry !! I feel very bad for coming here an attacking !!
LOve YA,
M
I can't Thank You enough for all You've done for me.
PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF !
WE NEED YOU MORE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE!
ashkent7
20 Jun 2016, 22:03
Meat, I was there on THAT night in Newcastle...I was also there when you came back. I am often told that I don't show enough emotion about things but when you walked on stage, even before a single note, the reaction of the audience brought a lump to my throat.
People will say what they want about refunds/no refunds/faking/not faking... but all those people under one roof, on their feet and applauding before you've done anything has to be the only truth you need to know that we all have your back.
ricgough
21 Jun 2016, 02:02
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I have been upset all day !! I came here not expecting what I ran into !!
I had a person accusing of passing out and faking it to sell tickets . People everywhere telling me I am Lip lip syncing the whole show !! because they heard the Double vocal in the background after I passed out , it's a double vocal that is on the record from 94 ' the band had stopped , the BG's weren't singing , so all you heard was the double . I didn't wake up till I was at the Hospital . I was faking it wrote one woman . I wanted to leave the Hospital but they would not let me . I had people wanting a refund when I was about 9 or 10 mins from the end of the show . They had heard Bat,Paradise,Took the words , 2 outa 3,
Revved up, Frying pan, Break it , the opening and other songs . I had been on for almost an hour and 40 mins. Right now I am not well !! I am going to try and do the show on Tues . Had another guy write that I do this passing out all the time just to make money and never give refunds . Lets take that night in Newcastle. Yes I had to stop , but I came back and charged 5 pounds a ticket to only cover the cost of the building !! Also gave everyone a free CD . So yes I am upset !! MY wife and Frances have yelled at me !! I am sorry . It goes back to my 1st Broadway show "Hair" and the song "How can People be so Heartless" Again sorry !! I feel very bad for coming here an attacking !!
LOve YA,
M
I was at that show and it was 25 pounds not 5 but that's beside the point as 25 pounds was about half price in 2010 and it was clear there was no profit margin involved and my free cd was given to a long tome friend and fellow fan who was going through tough times as I already had the storybook version. The truly remarkable thing about that show was that it was probably the best vocal performance I'd heard live since about 1994. It was arguably the best meat loaf show id ever been to including the RAH bat 3 uk debut which was a lot more expensive especially when flights and accommodation come into it. That 2010 newcastle show was an absolute privilege to have witnessed.
The truly remarkable thing about that show was that it was probably the best vocal performance I'd heard live since about 1994. It was arguably the best meat loaf show id ever been to including the RAH bat 3 uk debut which was a lot more expensive especially when flights and accommodation come into it. That 2010 newcastle show was an absolute privilege to have witnessed.
After the vocal cyst had healed and Meat had gone through the vocal coaching afterwards, he promised us he was singing better and more strongly than he had for years .. and he was right. He came back on top form in Casa de Carne, and the shows in Hang Cool were brilliant as you say. I enjoyed them all, and Newcastle was a special night, when he returned there for the first time since he had to leave the stage there in 2007.
He didn't mention here either that he went back to Newcastle to do that penalty shoot-out to raise money for two charities in Newcastle. Such a big heart, such a wish to show he was sorry for something quite beyond his control.
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