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hell_basket
24 Dec 2012, 17:13
will it really be Meats last ever gig at Cardiff Motorpoint? if so thats gotta be the one to get tickets to. Be cool if it was filmed for DVD aswell. Meat Loafs last stand!

LucyK!
24 Dec 2012, 17:20
I hope Cardiff isn't his last ever concert, or all the Germany and Netherland concerts will be rubbish!

faolteam
25 Dec 2012, 20:14
and comebacks than a Boomerang he can keep going for quiet some time

Coould be a marketing ply ?:D

CarylB
26 Dec 2012, 14:19
will it really be Meats last ever gig at Cardiff Motorpoint?

No. He's already made it clear he will be taking Last At Bat to the USA after Europe. And whatever anyone says about "marketing ploys", I think he is sincere, and that the title Last At Bat is significant, as he's said for many years that this title would be the last one.

trvspain
26 Dec 2012, 14:49
No marketing ploys, I think he is sincere as well, Caryl. I think him moving back home to Texas was a big move and symbolic in the sense that he moved from the entertainment hub of LA back to his home state and that he is ready to spend more time at home. I will say that the times I have seen him in the last 2 years, he is having the time of his life on stage and I can't imagine him never performing any live concerts after this tour. He loves that stage and he eats it up when he is performing. While this is his last tour, I can't see Meat never doing a one-off show because he is a born entertainer. God bless Meat in whatever he wants to do because he has given us a lot of memories for many years and when his final show comes, it will be a well-deserved musical retirement.....and yes, I hope it is filmed for DVD ;-)

Ollie241189
26 Dec 2012, 14:53
Meat's also said that he MAY be back in the UK in the fall (Autumn)

CarylB
26 Dec 2012, 15:28
No marketing ploys, I think he is sincere as well, Caryl. I think him moving back home to Texas was a big move and symbolic in the sense that he moved from the entertainment hub of LA back to his home state and that he is ready to spend more time at home.

Yes, I thought that too, and was rather expecting what he posted. He can still pursue acting and entertaining, which he loves, and whilst I agree he does eat it up when on stage, and has been on fire since he came back after the vocal cyst, touring is tiring and all-consuming .. but he's said he may do the occasional charity gig, or a few shows round a weekend, although I would expect those to be in the USA. You can't bring the entire retinue overseas for a couple of shows ;)

Meat's also said that he MAY be back in the UK in the fall (Autumn)

Yes he has in response to the massive sell-out as soon as this tour was announced .. and he has also said "but" it's complicated. I'd love to see him back here, but only time, and perhaps the new knees ;), will tell. I'll understand if it can't be made to happen.

trvspain
26 Dec 2012, 15:42
Yes, I thought that too, and was rather expecting what he posted. He can still pursue acting and entertaining, which he loves, and whilst I agree he does eat it up when on stage, and has been on fire since he came back after the vocal cyst, touring is tiring and all-consuming .. but he's said he may do the occasional charity gig, or a few shows round a weekend, although I would expect those to be in the USA. You can't bring the entire retinue overseas for a couple of shows ;)

Yes, touring is tiring and very consuming and I think he is ready to give that part up. If you think, Meat is rarely home and I am sure he (and Deb) will welcome retirement from the constant touring.

hell_basket
28 Dec 2012, 18:50
oh right, sorry i was a bit confused :oops:

Dick
28 Dec 2012, 19:57
As much as it always pleases me to see Meat, i havent yet got a ticket as I was holding out for an irish date...seems i was wrong. I hoped he would do Ireland at the same time as the UK and not in the autumn, some of my favourite concerts have been in the summer...

Havin Fun for Summer Tour ('02) Marlay Park
Hair of the Dog ('05) Ardgillian Castle
Casa De Carne ('08) Cork

Ok there are always exceptions, Hang Cool Tour at o2 Dublin was phenomenal and it was December and the Last world Tour in 2003 was also in December.

I just find that autumn/winter is feckin freezin! and if im forced to go to a Belfast show in the cold and deal with the worst concert security in the world i shall not be held responsible for my actions.

rant over....I wanna go to a show in spring!

The Flying Mouse
28 Dec 2012, 20:10
:twisted: I just find it very hard to imagine Meat releasing Crazy & Brave, and then a Xmas album, and not touring to promote either of them :wtf:

I also find it hard to imagine Meat in retirement.
We know how much of a workaholic he is, so I can't imagine him calling it a day and spending the rest of his life on his front porch.

He might do more movie work, but as it's been pointed out, a move away from LA to Texas seems to suggest that's not where his interests lie.

Most of all I find it hard to imagine Meat giving up the stage.
It's hard on him, but he thrives on doing those shows. He puts everything into them, and he also feeds off them.
I don't know that there's anything else on earth that would give him that release.

As i've said several times on the subject, those of us lucky enough to do their hobbies for a living justify ourselves by calling their work "The Arts" (notice the capitals :lmao: ) but I also know that the vast majority would still continue to practice their art even if they were no longer paid for it.
I'm sure you'll have to pry my mic out of my cold dead hand :lawl:


I believe that Meat is honestly sincere when he says this is the last, but I don't know if he'll be able to stick to it.

Or perhaps i'm in an Egyptian river :shrug:

JennaG
28 Dec 2012, 21:36
It seems a little strange that the tour is being advertised as being 'The Farewell Tour' and described by many ticket sites as Meat's final farewell to his fans if he's still got new albums in the pipeline. In normal circumstances a farewell tour would suggest to me that the artist is leaving the music business entirely and is not planning on releasing anything new.

I'm glad that Meat still has new albums planned as I always really look forward to hearing his new material but the thought that 21st April will be the last Meat concert I ever go to is quite a sad thought. I'm not sure I'll be able to get through that show without crying but despite that I will take away some great memories.

greg
28 Dec 2012, 23:01
Remember the hair of the dog programs. Had on back the last bat

melon
29 Dec 2012, 00:22
but the thought that 21st April will be the last Meat concert I ever go to is quite a sad thought. I'm not sure I'll be able to get through that show without crying but despite that I will take away some great memories.
Not sure how my M&G will go on that day :( ima be sad, but happy if you know what I mean

renegadeangel
29 Dec 2012, 00:30
:twisted: I just find it very hard to imagine Meat releasing Crazy & Brave, and then a Xmas album, and not touring to promote either of them :wtf:

I also find it hard to imagine Meat in retirement.
We know how much of a workaholic he is, so I can't imagine him calling it a day and spending the rest of his life on his front porch.

He might do more movie work, bat as it's been pointed out, a move away from LA to Texas seems to suggest that's not where his interests lie.

Most of all I find it hard to imagine Meat giving up the stage.
It's hard on him, but he thrives on doing those shows. He puts everything into them, and he also feeds off them.
I don't know that there's anything else on earth that would give him that release.

As i've said several times on the subject, those of us lucky enough to do their hobbies for a living justify ourselves by calling their work "The Arts" (notice the patitals :lmao: ) but I also know that the vast majority would still continue to practice their art even if they were no longer paid for it.
I'm sure you'll have to pry my mic out of my cold dead hand :lawl:


I believe that Meat is honestly sincere when he says this is the last, but I don't know if he'll be able to stick to it.

Or perhaps i'm in an Egyptian river :shrug:


I don't remember him saying he was out and out retiring. Just giving up the world tours. I think he will continue to perform but very much closer to home. As he has said he would like to die on stage...

nikox1
29 Dec 2012, 00:31
im shocked by the facts there are no irish dates? he has said many times how much he enjoys coming here [ simply the best crowd ]. sorry but its true, belfast and dublin crowds take the roof off the arenas!!! not saying the uk crowds are bad, the support down the years the uk has given him has been second to none. i dont blame Meat in anyway, im sure there are alot of things to do in so little time. but i will say that i hope he does come back in the autum, as there should be more concerts across europe than whats been announced imo. if it really is goodbye? well then imo he needs to give a proper goodbye [ still could happen of course ]. maybe brave and crazy will be out in april, hence the time of the tour? time will tell, eitherway i wish Meat the very best

meatloaf5
29 Dec 2012, 00:32
It may be Meats last World, or UK, tour, but he`ll probably do a couple/few more in the States. As you get older, the prospect of long distance travel is less appealing :(

CarylB
29 Dec 2012, 03:58
Meat hasn't said he's retiring! Just that this will be his last big tour. He also said he might do occasional gigs. But his career as an actor isn't a secondary one .. he loves film and TV work, and imo is sufficiently established as a seriously good actor that he doesn't perhaps need to be in LA now. Many films are shot on location anyway. Also his film production company is based in Texas isn't it? Perhaps he might want to move that way. He certainly has the skills to direct as well as act.

Yes, he's often said he wants to die on stage. I suspect his family would rather not have that happen .. and I wouldn't want to be at that show! He is driven to perform .. but has other ways of being creative and performing.

There is I suspect so much hassle with promoters too. They like extended tours, with show after show. Meat's tours here may be short for them, plus he needs rest days for his voice .. and imo they're greedy. It's they who call the shots much of the time, not Meat, who just works his ass off and tries to pare the budgets to keep ticket prices down.

I think he's fine with long distance travel .. (you can make a case that once they're over here, the travel between gigs is far less than in the USA or Australia) .. but extended periods on the road must get in the way of enjoying life, and the logistics of shipping everything must be massive and costly.

I don't know how many shows in the UK you've been to Nikox .. but arena roofs get raised regularly here too. Perhaps with less drink, thinking back to my last show in Belfast! Thanks for saying we're not BAD fans ..

I think it was Andy perhaps who recently posted that tours these days were the way artists made money from recordings, because they don't make much from record sales themselves. As money isn't the big motivator for Meat, I don't see him releasing an album as necessarily having to be accompanied by a big tour. If he can capitalise on more up to date recording methods, and achieve good sales, I see no reason why his creative output shouldn't continue without him having to go on the road for over a year each time to promote them.

nikox1
29 Dec 2012, 04:22
@ CarylB,, i have been to 2 shows in the uk [ both in wembley ]. had a great time!!! great shows and good crowds. im only saying what the man himself has said, no show like an Irish show!!! not in anyway putting down any uk fans or as stated the support he has recieved down the years. just strange no goodbye shows for ireland so far? and as for drink at shows? well people drink at every concert;),, its a universal thing Caryl [ not just an Irish thing ].

renegadeangel
29 Dec 2012, 14:36
Meat hasn't said he's retiring! Just that this will be his last big tour. He also said he might do occasional gigs. But his career as an actor isn't a secondary one .. he loves film and TV work, and imo is sufficiently established as a seriously good actor that he doesn't perhaps need to be in LA now. Many films are shot on location anyway. Also his film production company is based in Texas isn't it? Perhaps he might want to move that way. He certainly has the skills to direct as well as act.

Yes, he's often said he wants to die on stage. I suspect his family would rather not have that happen .. and I wouldn't want to be at that show! He is driven to perform .. but has other ways of being creative and performing.

There is I suspect so much hassle with promoters too. They like extended tours, with show after show. Meat's tours here may be short for them, plus he needs rest days for his voice .. and imo they're greedy. It's they who call the shots much of the time, not Meat, who just works his ass off and tries to pare the budgets to keep ticket prices down.

I think he's fine with long distance travel .. (you can make a case that once they're over here, the travel between gigs is far less than in the USA or Australia) .. but extended periods on the road must get in the way of enjoying life, and the logistics of shipping everything must be massive and costly.

I don't know how many shows in the UK you've been to Nikox .. but arena roofs get raised regularly here too. Perhaps with less drink, thinking back to my last show in Belfast! Thanks for saying we're not BAD fans ..

I think it was Andy perhaps who recently posted that tours these days were the way artists made money from recordings, because they don't make much from record sales themselves. As money isn't the big motivator for Meat, I don't see him releasing an album as necessarily having to be accompanied by a big tour. If he can capitalise on more up to date recording methods, and achieve good sales, I see no reason why his creative output shouldn't continue without him having to go on the road for over a year each time to promote them.



I think that Meat will always be on the stage as that is the one place where he is very comfortable and in total control. He can change anything as his immediate discretion. I do believe that he loves the role of an actor and all that it gives him in opportunities, but deep down he is really into the character Meat Loaf he created and loves to play.
I also think that aside from the financial benefits of touring, it keeps his voice where he wants it to be. No matter what the period, he always started a major tour before he recorded an album. Not many artists do this and sometimes I think they probably should. Again my opinion as to why he sounds so good vocally.

wolfy35
29 Dec 2012, 15:40
The only person who truly knows the answer is Meat, Maybe in time he will explain things to us to clarify the situation.

Meat has always said he enjoys playing live, He has also said how much he enjoys the way a good audience makes him feel.

However we have to look at some simple facts.

Meat is no spring chicken. Combine his age with the health problems he has had & with his knees is still having and it could be that the idea of a punishing worldwide tour schedule is just too much no matter how much Meat enjoys performing live.

Maybe it is his last tour but the optimist in me prefers to think it is his last major tour and we will see him again for concerts where he plays a few dates with more than a couple of days between them then takes a break before continuing.

lyn
05 Jan 2013, 23:45
No. He's already made it clear he will be taking Last At Bat to the USA after Europe. And whatever anyone says about "marketing ploys", I think he is sincere, and that the title Last At Bat is significant, as he's said for many years that this title would be the last one.

I know he said during the last Aus tour that it'd be his last tour down under, but I wonder if he'd bring the Last At Bat down under? Maybe wishful thinking on my behalf, but I hope he does ;)

As for "marketing ploys", I have to agree with you there Caryl ;) I truly think this will be his last world tour.

tonyloaf
06 Jan 2013, 09:23
I think after the treatment he got in aus last tour i dont think he will ever go back there