View Full Version : Previews of the Guilty Pleasure DVD up on Itunes!!!!
robgomm
27 Aug 2012, 12:03
Hey guys Itunes now has preview samples up of all the tracks on the CD, about 1min30 of each song!!
If you have Itunes clikc on this link!!
http://itunes.apple.com/preorder/guilty-pleasure-tour-live/id555662465?o=a&v0=ITS-Artist%20Alert
Must say it sounds f*****g awesome!!
Must say it sounds f*****g awesome!![/QUOTE]
yeeesssss ... agree absolutely!!!
thank you for the link!
Cherry.Loaf
27 Aug 2012, 12:27
My God Stand in the Storm is fantastic (only one I've heard so far!) btw you may need to set your country to UK as it's not showing up on the US itunes :D
Evil One
27 Aug 2012, 12:33
And for those of us who don't want to install iTunes? :wall:
Play.com have the track times of the CD: http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Download-Album/4-/35653798/0/Guilty-Pleasure-Tour/ListingDetails.html?searchstring=meat+loaf+guilty+pleasures&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search
Mr. Happy
27 Aug 2012, 12:36
My God Stand in the Storm is fantastic (only one I've heard so far!) btw you may need to set your country to UK as it's not showing up on the US itunes :D
This is true, you can't see it in Australia either :|
Doesn't sound bad at all. I love the intros to Took the Words and Two out of Three, as well as all of Boneyard. Sounds like a kick ass version of Break It from the snippet, too. Where they alternate turns singing "break it!" at the end of the second chorus is just plain awesome. My only complaint is that Rock and Roll Dreams isn't on the CD. I don't want to have dig up the DVD just to hear that insane piano solo...oh well :P
They would have performed all of these exactly like this at the Melbourne show I attended, but I don't remember any of these specifics :shock: I must have been too stunned by how great it was to take in any fine detail :lol:
Evil One
27 Aug 2012, 12:37
Amazon have the CD with samples: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guilty-Pleasure-Tour-Live/dp/B0091QJW58/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1346060195&sr=8-2
Which has all of 10 seconds worth of Meat's singing between all of them. :bleh:
robgomm
27 Aug 2012, 12:41
Amazon have the CD with samples: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guilty-Pleasure-Tour-Live/dp/B0091QJW58/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1346060195&sr=8-2
Cool, thanks!
robgomm
27 Aug 2012, 12:43
This is true, you can't see it in Australia either :|
Doesn't sound bad at all. I love the intros to Took the Words and Two out of Three, as well as all of Boneyard. Sounds like a kick ass version of Break It from the snippet, too. Where they alternate turns singing "break it!" at the end of the second chorus is just plain awesome. My only complaint is that Rock and Roll Dreams isn't on the CD. I don't want to have dig up the DVD just to hear that insane piano solo...oh well :P
They would have performed all of these exactly like this at the Melbourne show I attended, but I don't remember any of these specifics :shock: I must have been too stunned by how great it was to take in any fine detail :lol:
I was really surprised by the different intros to some of the songs, sounds great! So pleased that they keep changing it up to keep it fresh. AFL intro sounds great, so does Two Out Of Three and TTW!
robgomm
27 Aug 2012, 12:44
Which has all of 10 seconds worth of Meat's singing between all of them. :bleh:
Oh, that's disappointing.
robgomm
27 Aug 2012, 12:50
Gotta say Patti kills in SITS.
Cherry.Loaf
27 Aug 2012, 19:00
Gotta say Patti kills in SITS.
Really excited to see/hear the full version
The band sounds excellent. Meat, quite honestly, not so much
Tri.somethin
27 Aug 2012, 20:52
The band sounds excellent. Meat, quite honestly, not so much
Pffff. He sounds great.
Sebastian.
27 Aug 2012, 21:05
Bat is just gonna rock, Everything sounds amazing.
I still can't get over the sound quality, is is so clear. Lovin' Anything for love as well!
Really can't wait for all this.
robgomm
27 Aug 2012, 21:39
The band sounds excellent. Meat, quite honestly, not so much
Respect your opinion but I think he sounds great. Full of drive and energy. He hits some killer big long notes in Break It and Boneyard, and these are just short samples!
Btw the long built up lead in to TTW sounds amazing! And the violin really adds to the intro to AFL.
Respect your opinion but I think he sounds great. Full of drive and energy. He hits some killer big long notes in Break It and Boneyard, and these are just short samples!
Btw the long built up lead in to TTW sounds amazing! And the violin really adds to the intro to AFL.
Hot Patootie sounded totally terrible. And with the exception of the long note held in Boneyard I didn't hear anything that sounded good. Vocal wise it may be worse than 3 Bats, kinda surprised they even went ahead with the release.
But if you enjoy it, that's great, but I honestly don't think I'm gonna spend my money on it after hearing a minute and half samples of each one
Personally I'm glad the violin didn't return this tour. I didn't like the way it sounded in the songs, seemed out of place
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Likes the idea of an 8 minute Boneyard/All Revved Up!
robgomm
28 Aug 2012, 00:30
Hot Patootie sounded totally terrible. And with the exception of the long note held in Boneyard I didn't hear anything that sounded good. Vocal wise it may be worse than 3 Bats, kinda surprised they even went ahead with the release.
But if you enjoy it, that's great, but I honestly don't think I'm gonna spend my money on it after hearing a minute and half samples of each one
Personally I'm glad the violin didn't return this tour. I didn't like the way it sounded in the songs, seemed out of place
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I don't think you can say HP sounded totally terrible and vocal wise it's worse than 3 Bats. Remember Meat reads these comments so please show some respect for his feelings. Just say it wasn't to your liking.
I don't think you can say HP sounded totally terrible and vocal wise it's worse than 3 Bats. Remember Meat reads these comments so please show some respect for his feelings. Just say it wasn't to your liking.
I can say anything that I like.
Also, what is with the echo on his voice that seems to be popping up everywhere? Annoying as crap.
Also, what is with the echo on his voice that seems to be popping up everywhere?
It's Meat Loaf singing a duet... with Meat Loaf. :)) Haven't heard enough yet to really judge the vocals but what I've heard so far doesn't knock my socks off. The music sounds very exciting, though. Too bad that such a great song like Peace On Earth apparently can't do without Paddy's presence. :sick:
OMG. TOOK THE WORDS, HOT PATOOTIE, and ANYTHING FOR LOVE SOUND FREAKING AMAZING. I CANT WAIT FOR THIS
SITS looks like its been remixed. awesome.
Is it just the sound on my computer or do some of Meat's vocals seem to be a bit drowned out against the others?
robgomm
28 Aug 2012, 11:18
I can say anything that I like.
Also, what is with the echo on his voice that seems to be popping up everywhere? Annoying as crap.
You can't say anything you like actually or the mods will rightfully step in, show some respect.
robgomm
28 Aug 2012, 11:18
Is it just the sound on my computer or do some of Meat's vocals seem to be a bit drowned out against the others?
Sounds clear as a bell to me mostly.
AndrewG
28 Aug 2012, 11:21
The instrumental mix on those songs is perfect, even better than on the albums it seems. I love the violin on AFL, sounds very early Bruce Springsteen-esque to me.
Meat's vocals are really not that great on those previews in my opinion and appear very drowned out with the backing vocals or with Patti when she is "doubling" the lines (it actually seems MORE than doubling when she comes in, more like take over?).
But for what it is it does sound like a quality product.
robgomm
28 Aug 2012, 11:36
The instrumental mix on those songs is perfect, even better than on the albums it seems. I love the violin on AFL, sounds very early Bruce Springsteen-esque to me.
Meat's vocals are really not that great on those previews in my opinion and appear very drowned out with the backing vocals or with Patti when she is "doubling" the lines (it actually seems MORE than doubling when she comes in, more like take over?).
But for what it is it does sound like a quality product.
This is weird, I think Meats vocals are really quite clear, I can hear him really well. Weird that you hear it drowned out. I wonder if it's like someone else said and different computers sound systems make things sound different? Anyway I guess we won't really know until October.
Is it just the sound on my computer or do some of Meat's vocals seem to be a bit drowned out against the others?
He sounded a bit drowned out on the night, but not all the time, just in places
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He sounded a bit drowned out on the night, but not all the time, just in places.
Thanks.
I didn't want to make any judgements in case it was just my computer but either way I'm really looking forward to this release. :D :D
misterfive
28 Aug 2012, 15:12
Will the DVD have the AFL preformance?
Will the DVD have the AFL preformance?
From the football or the song?
Song - Yes
Football - No
You can't say anything you like actually or the mods will rightfully step in, show some respect.
Seriously, get off this moral high horse your on.
Nothing that I have said has been derogatory or a personal attack, just honest opinions
The vocals are sub par, don't know any nicer way to say it
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In YOUR opinion....
The vocals are sub par
Now, this reads more accurately.
From everything I am hearing from the clips on iTunes, it sounds like this is exactly the product Meat Loaf fans have wanted for years - a not watered down, full on Meat Loaf musical attack. Oftentimes, the arrangements of the music we hear in concert are watered down for commercial release, but it seems as if all of the extravagances and frivolities of a live Meat Loaf show have been left in this time. I am looking more forward to this now more than ever.
In YOUR opinion....
Now, this reads more accurately.
Well if you notice, right above that, I stated clearly that I was expressing my honest opinions, so I really didn't feel the need to repeat the same words in succession
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From everything I am hearing from the clips on iTunes, it sounds like this is exactly the product Meat Loaf fans have wanted for years - a not watered down, full on Meat Loaf musical attack. Oftentimes, the arrangements of the music we hear in concert are watered down for commercial release, but it seems as if all of the extravagances and frivolities of a live Meat Loaf show have been left in this time. I am looking more forward to this now more than ever.
I'd agree with that absolutely David. I loved the shows on this tour, Meat was on top form, and to have something that recreates the experience of being there again is exactly what I'm looking forward to :-) I have studio versions of the songs. I want to recapture his and again hear Meat and the NLE live and over the top ;)
Caryl
SO on the DVD version of AFL I take it theirs no Piano/vocal intro?
SO on the DVD version of AFL I take it theirs no Piano/vocal intro?
That is correct, the intro was just as it seems to be on this tour
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Have just listened to the clips on itunes and I have to say, I think it sounds great! This is gonna be played to death in my car, along with HCTB and HIAH. Personally, I would have preferred to have had a couple more songs from HIAH on there, instead of TTW and AFL, but I understand why they are there and it won't stop me playing it over and over! Roll on October!
Perhaps down the road there will be some MP3s released of the current tour. 8)
stretch37
30 Aug 2012, 10:59
...bat in full
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSsj8JjGkjA&noredirect=1
robgomm
30 Aug 2012, 12:06
...bat in full
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSsj8JjGkjA&noredirect=1
OH. MY. GOD.
I haven't heard Bat done this well since 2008!
Evil One
30 Aug 2012, 13:38
This was uploaded today, yet Concert One haven't updated the set list. :wtf:
AndrewG
30 Aug 2012, 13:45
...bat in full
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSsj8JjGkjA&noredirect=1
:shock:
Wow great stuff! :D
I absolutely love the violin on Bat!
Superb.
I want this on Blu Ray!
Sebastian.
30 Aug 2012, 14:27
Just wow! I wish October would hurry up.
Don't think I will ever stop playing this!
And the 18 minute EPK for the DVD
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Sebastian.
30 Aug 2012, 14:41
OMG Rock 'n' Roll Dreams. OMGOMGOMGOG!!!1111.
Really, really, really need this now!
Tri.somethin
30 Aug 2012, 14:47
Booh...... WOOOOOOOOOOOW
Cherry.Loaf
30 Aug 2012, 15:01
I love that fact he's wearing the Big Momma :)
Tri.somethin
30 Aug 2012, 15:05
And that EPK is great!
Mr. Happy
30 Aug 2012, 15:11
Patti's voice is still AutoTuned / whatever it is in Stand in the Storm. It's so distracting :O
Other than that...that was amazing. That was, quite literally, the best vocal of Bat I've heard in any recording, be it official or not so much, since Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. October needs to hurry up :D
loaferman61
30 Aug 2012, 15:29
Release date is now October 23rd. Just got email from ConcertOne of press release.
Monstro
30 Aug 2012, 16:08
Release date is now October 23rd. Just got email from ConcertOne of press release.
They say what year?
unbekannt
30 Aug 2012, 16:17
They say what year?
„Released worldwide on October 23rd, 2012, […]“
That echo just ruins it for me. So unnecessary and distracting
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robgomm
30 Aug 2012, 17:06
And the 18 minute EPK for the DVD
ZZXLHuFbM2Y&feature=plcp
Wow!
That echo just ruins it for me. So unnecessary and distracting
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Mark the echo is there for a reason. He wants you to feel like youre in the same autotorium as the audience. The echo encompasses the feel of the show. Its epic dude.
robgomm
30 Aug 2012, 17:49
Mark the echo is there for a reason. He wants you to feel like youre in the same autotorium as the audience. The echo encompasses the feel of the show. Its epic dude.
I agree, I think the echo really adds something, Pauls been nagging him for ages to add effects, i'm glad he let him do this, sounds epic as you say.
Oh dear, i'm thinking I may have to order two copies of the DVD/CD set as they might get worn out quite quickly! Bat sounds AMAZING, in fact it all does! You know when Meat said this would be better than MSO I thought no way it will get close to that, nothing can touch that, but i'm starting to think it might be a worthy competitor!
I agree, I think the echo really adds something, Pauls been nagging him for ages to add effects, i'm glad he let him do this, sounds epic as you say.
Oh dear, i'm thinking I may have to order two copies of the DVD/CD set as they might get worn out quite quickly! Bat sounds AMAZING, in fact it all does! You know when Meat said this would be better than MSO I thought no way it will get close to that, nothing can touch that, but i'm starting to think it might be a worthy competitor!
Yup! Its such ashame Concert-One f'ed up Mercury Blues cause man... That too wouldve been so epic!!!!!
Mark the echo is there for a reason. He wants you to feel like youre in the same autotorium as the audience. The echo encompasses the feel of the show. Its epic dude.
I'm sorry but I've been to a heck of a lot of shows on three different tours and have never an echo sensation like that. There is one instance in the Paloma deal after the giving tree on this tour, but that is intentionally echoed and it doesn't sound like that at any other point in the show.
I still stand by my earlier statement that it is too dark as well, especially after seeing the EPK. So many points where you can't see what's going on.
Just afraid that the critics are going to rip this thing to shreds and hurt his overall image
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loaferman61
30 Aug 2012, 18:15
I still stand by my earlier statement that it is too dark as well, especially after seeing the EPK. So many points where you can't see what's going on.
Just afraid that the critics are going to rip this thing to shreds and hurt his overall image
Probably won't get a lot of professional reviews, the early reviews on sites like Amazon are always great for awhile because they come from die-hard fans who buy it first day. I've seen stuff not yet released with positive reviews on Amazon. After some members of the general public buy it, they are not going to get the darkness and complain. When it is lighted it looks fantastic. It sounds good to me, especially with the violin. Now having seen this many clips I feel like it is safe to say that some of us find parts to be too dark. I will still buy it (pre-ordered) and probably enjoy it any way.
Everything I've seen and heard on these previews tells me I am going to love this DVD, that Meat should be proud of it, and that it was worth waiting for him to be happy with it :D That he's wearing our LFTT pendant in the promo shot at New Brunswick is the icing on the fund-raising cake :D Love it .. and Meat's vocals are great for me, I like the effects, and I think for me this will pip the MSO at the post by more than a nose or two!
Something to look forward to as October threatens to usher in "No shade, no shine, no butterflies, no bees, no fruits, no flowers, no leaves, no birds -
November!" .. and bring me instead the light and warmth and joy of so many wonderful remembered nights :D
Caryl
I've watched and listened the Bat video for 4 times now and I m absolutely dissapointed :(
I'm happy for those who love it and I hope it will sound decent in DTS but this audio mix, as I hear it on youtube and on my PC, simply sucks.
Meat's vocal mix almost seems as if it's not part of the band. As if he's singing live with a (kick-ass) karaoke music mix. It doesn't sound as if they belong together and I have no idea if that has to do with dubbing or effects but it's ruining the experience for me.
Again I hope this comes over a lot better on the DTS mix.
I still don't like the way this is lit. Almost as if they had to hide something. It's not as livid as the concert DVD's I have and at times it all just looks bad lit to me overall.
I had high hopes before. Now I just hope it doesn't suck like Bat3. But from what I've seen sofar this is nowhere near the quality of the MSO DVD.
So, yes I'm dissapointed :(
Evil One
30 Aug 2012, 23:20
I agree. The band sound excellent, but Meat's vocal mix sounds a bit off.
robgomm
30 Aug 2012, 23:52
I agree. The band sound excellent, but Meat's vocal mix sounds a bit off.
I'm not sure it sounds off. To me it sounds like he's trying to make things fresh and new, singing some bits higher, some bits different to what he's done before. I like this because he's always showing he's not afraid to be bold and make ad lib changes to the vocals. So i don't think it's off, he's just doing things a bit differently, and I for one love it.
Mark the echo is there for a reason.
Whatever the reason is, it doesn't make it sound "live", in my opinion. It appears kind of artificial to me. I agree with MarkS on this. It's just too much. I turned the volume down after half the song because it wasn't a pleasant sound to my ears, it really annoys me and distracts from the music. I don't understand why they did this, I think it doesn't do the sound any favors.
Meat's vocal mix almost seems as if it's not part of the band.
I had the same feeling.
I still stand by my earlier statement that it is too dark as well, especially after seeing the EPK. So many points where you can't see what's going on.
I think the lighting is okay, except for the parts that have that odd blue tint. Did it look like that during the actual concert or was that added later?
You guys are never satisfied. This is perfection! Just what I wanted. He sounds great! You complain like I did that 3 Bats was flawed and too raw, now you have a polished masterpiece and you complain about it. I don't get it. Its awesome. and meat looks like hes enjoying himself!
This is perfection!
1. Perfection is boring.
2. People tend to have different concepts of perfection.
[...] now you have a polished masterpiece and you complain about it.
3. People have different concepts of "masterpiece", too.
1. Perfection is boring.
2. People tend to have different concepts of perfection.
3. People have different concepts of "masterpiece", too.
What she said, MS was a masterpiece, this doesn't look anywhere close to the same level
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now you have a polished masterpiece and you complain about it. I don't get it. Its awesome. and meat looks like hes enjoying himself!
First of, I am really happy that you are happy about it. And I mean that.
Just like me you have an opinion about it, it just happens my opinion is the oposite of yours.
You call it a polished masterpiece, I call the vocal mix a ruined experience because they don't sound like they (music and vocals) belong together.
I, btw, never said anything about Meat's performance. I'll wait with that after I've seen the rest of the DVD.
So for me this is the oposite of a masterpiece. I certainly wouldn't call the mix awesome.
loaferman61
31 Aug 2012, 03:18
At this point there is only a month (or two depending on the source) and I am going to wait until I see and hear it except I will say now it is bloody dark. I do wish the distributors knew Meat Loaf is two words, whoever posted the youtube video apparently does not. I'm firmly in the wait and see (but damn it is dark) camp.
If there is one thing I have learned from this forum it is that words such as "perfect" and "flawless", etc. get thrown around so much that they tend to lose their meaning and give me pause to accept the poster's opinion when they are overused.
"Perfect" & "Flawless" is in the eye of the beholder.... for all that I want this is perfect & flawless to me, and to me that, and that Meat is happy with it is all that counts.
Gotta admit, I really enjoy the lighting from what is being shared.. Imo any show that's a lot of white light is bothersome. The Ginny Luke accompaniment is a little bothering but may begin to enjoy it after I buy the DVD. It's just new sound is all and will perhaps take some getting used too. The song Land Of The Pig was real guitar heavy and new for Meat, but I grew to enjoy that.
I quite enjoy the violin sound in there, the solo duel between Ginny & Justin is "AMAYZING!"
Its just this is the kind of production i thought youd all unanimously celebrate. I dont see the problem. I guess weve all heard the boots and this doesnt sound anything like it and we are used to a vocal quality to meat from a bootleg. this is professional.
Lol this is the first time we disagree on something like this :lol:
First of, I am really happy that you are happy about it. And I mean that.
Just like me you have an opinion about it, it just happens my opinion is the oposite of yours.
You call it a polished masterpiece, I call the vocal mix a ruined experience because they don't sound like they (music and vocals) belong together.
I, btw, never said anything about Meat's performance. I'll wait with that after I've seen the rest of the DVD.
So for me this is the oposite of a masterpiece. I certainly wouldn't call the mix awesome.
Evil One
31 Aug 2012, 08:37
I'm not sure it sounds off. To me it sounds like he's trying to make things fresh and new, singing some bits higher, some bits different to what he's done before. I like this because he's always showing he's not afraid to be bold and make ad lib changes to the vocals. So i don't think it's off, he's just doing things a bit differently, and I for one love it.I wasn't commenting on what was actually coming out of Meat's mouth.
markyboy1985
31 Aug 2012, 11:03
I think we should all get behind this dvd and support meat instead of nitpicking at small things in my opinion. I've seen some of the clips and I think it looks amazing. Yeah it's a bit darker but maybe that's how meat wants it and I think we should respect that. We should feel lucky to get a dvd from that tour given that we know meat had a few issues with his vocal chords and we should praise him for this. Meat needs to know majority of fans here support him and are EXTREMELY grateful for all his efforts.
AndrewG
31 Aug 2012, 11:05
I quite enjoy the violin sound in there, the solo duel between Ginny & Justin is "AMAYZING!"
I agree. That is sounding awesome.
AndrewG
31 Aug 2012, 11:20
I think we should all get behind this dvd and support meat instead of nitpicking at small things in my opinion. I've seen some of the clips and I think it looks amazing. Yeah it's a bit darker but maybe that's how meat wants it and I think we should respect that. We should feel lucky to get a dvd from that tour given that we know meat had a few issues with his vocal chords and we should praise him for this. Meat needs to know majority of fans here support him and are EXTREMELY grateful for all his efforts.
To me it doesn't look dark at all, not particularly for a concert film anyway I think. Concert films always have this object - very bright/colourful, background - black/you can't see it attitude. It does have a very high contrast ratio I think which is what I expect from good quality cameras. Moreover if you have a LED/LCD tv it will display the DVD extremely bright anyway, but keep the background/dark bits as black as that is the nature of the technology. If you have a plasma it will indeed be darker and it won't be brightened up.
robgomm
31 Aug 2012, 18:16
I'm sorry but I've been to a heck of a lot of shows on three different tours and have never an echo sensation like that. There is one instance in the Paloma deal after the giving tree on this tour, but that is intentionally echoed and it doesn't sound like that at any other point in the show.
I still stand by my earlier statement that it is too dark as well, especially after seeing the EPK. So many points where you can't see what's going on.
Just afraid that the critics are going to rip this thing to shreds and hurt his overall image
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I don't agree Mark. It's not like the echo effect is on every word. It's really a minor detail. You can't slam a whole show for a small number of effects that aren't even on every vocal.
I agree with Rob,to me it sounds realistic re the echo
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I don't agree Mark. It's not like the echo effect is on every word. It's really a minor detail. You can't slam a whole show for a small number of effects that aren't even on every vocal.
Seems pretty omnipresent to me considering that I have heard it in ever snippet that we have heard thus far. Doesn't appear to be a small amount to me.
I also agree with what some others have said, that all the affects and "adjustments" make it seem not live.
And quite frankly it is not just the echo that bothers Me, it is the fact that in my opinion the vocals do not sound good at all. Less strained than 3Bats, but not really any better
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And quite frankly it is not just the echo that bothers Me, it is the fact that in my opinion the vocals do not sound good at all.
I think we should all get behind this dvd and support meat instead of nitpicking at small things in my opinion.
Some on here like what they have seen/heard thus far - some on here don't like what they have seen/heard thus far - all points of view are valid. I can hop on my mod box for a moment and say if we focus conversation on our own opinions and interjections/comments about opinions rather than stating things as fact and/or grandstanding the conversation in attempts to "rally the troops" toward a cause. I have taken a step back and watched threads go down in a clusterbomb time after time for the same reason - same things being said over and over until it causes someone to snap.
Long ago, a majority of conversation regarding Meat Loaf happened in another venue online and we had just a few simple guideline there that I believe has been forgotten here - "attack the words, not the person" and "don't throw sand on other people's keyboards." Feel free to speak up and join the conversation - no one likes talking to themselves; however, take a moment to read your post before clicking the "submit reply" button to think if what you are saying is adding anything new to the conversation or are you basically re-posting something you said earlier to continue the argument. Effective use of the "like" and "dislike" buttons could also help to quell the flames around here a bit.
I would hate to live in a world where there were not polarizing viewpoints in the Meat Loaf world - it would be a very boring place. However, I am seeing this thread going down the same path many others have and am asking us all (myself included) to take a breath and read the words that R has placed above every page in this forum "As a forum dedicated to an artist who, along with various band members, contributes to this forum, we encourage honest opinion, debate, and constructive criticism. We ask that this should be done in a respectful manner which should also be afforded to each and every forum member" before posting.
It is good to be passionate, but to pound your beliefs over and over again can get tiresome, people to snap, and threads to be closed. I know I am excited for this upcoming release and hope to be able to discuss it with y'all and am anxious to read what you guys and gals think about this new product!
Okay...back on topic....
The clips of audio have been put on Amazon/iTunes and the EPK and full performance of Bat Out Of Hell have been put up on YouTube and I think everything looks and sounds fantastic from what I can see.
I would like to comment on the fog effect during Peace On Earth. I got a very stripped down version of the tour show at my venue. We didn't have any special effects at all. Therefore, I thought the fog effect and LED curtain was quite spectacular. Just seeing the clips of the spectacle of the show makes me eager to see a full-on Meat Loaf tour-de-force like what was presented in Sydney and not the no set/minimal lights shows my part of the country has gotten the past few tours.
loaferman61
31 Aug 2012, 20:28
Seems pretty omnipresent to me considering that I have heard it in ever snippet that we have heard thus far. Doesn't appear to be a small amount to me.
I also agree with what some others have said, that all the affects and "adjustments" make it seem not live.
And quite frankly it is not just the echo that bothers Me, it is the fact that in my opinion the vocals do not sound good at all. Less strained than 3Bats, but not really any better
I had only heard the audio through regular speakers and noticed very little echo. Last night I put on some good quality earphones and cranked it up and I had to admit then that it was really noticeable. Not enough to ruin anything- at least in one song - but there is hopefully not 2 hours of it. Meat's vocals sound otherwise quite good, the band is amazing, and when well lighted it looks spectacular. Hopefully as someone said viewing it on a big screen LCD will help. I still think it will be good and still look forward to it, for $11 just hearing that great band is a treat. I never got to see them with Ginny but I feel like she added a lot to the songs and freshened them up.
Evil One
02 Sep 2012, 18:41
I finally found the time to watch the EPK and I as far as I can tell the audio sounds better than on the BOOH clip. Either my ears are going or that BOOH isn't the finished article. :bleh:
I finally found the time to watch the EPK and I as far as I can tell the audio sounds better than on the BOOH clip. Either my ears are going or that BOOH isn't the finished article. :bleh:
yeah and some clips are a tad pixelated
yeah and some clips are a tad pixelated
But I think that's just a computer/youtube thing, it'll be fine on DVD
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Evil One
02 Sep 2012, 20:06
Around the 7.00 mark there's an instrumental from Anything For Love that usually doesn't get done live. Is this part of the show, or just an extra piece that was done for promo purposes?
Around the 7.00 mark there's an instrumental from Anything For Love that usually doesn't get done live. Is this part of the show, or just an extra piece that was done for promo purposes?
nope thats on the DVD. that is on itunes in the extended preview
stretch37
03 Sep 2012, 01:31
looks like the clips have been taken down off itunes?
looks like the clips have been taken down off itunes?
Did you look under UK iTunes? don't know about Canada, but I know they never showed up on the US store.
stretch37
03 Sep 2012, 01:46
Did you look under UK iTunes? don't know about Canada, but I know they never showed up on the US store.
yeah I checked all three, my wife said they sometimes put them up for like a week or so as a preview.
Deena J
03 Sep 2012, 03:58
yeah I checked all three, my wife said they sometimes put them up for like a week or so as a preview.
I checked the UK iTunes a lil while ago and it was still up. I listen to the previews for GP almost everyday!!! :)
stretch37
03 Sep 2012, 05:26
I checked the UK iTunes a lil while ago and it was still up. I listen to the previews for GP almost everyday!!! :)
Oh ya, hmm I'll have to have another look then! :)
Smithie
04 Sep 2012, 21:14
Meat's vocals are really not that great on those previews in my opinion and appear very drowned out with the backing vocals
I think it is a perfect blend of Meat and Patti's voices. There are many instrumentals, so Patti deserves the opportunity to be featured too for her vocals.
The previews sound great. I prefer the hard rock arrangements of the songs on the MMW tour. With the violin, it has a classical sound that I don't care for in Meat's music.
Smithie
04 Sep 2012, 21:16
SITS- WOW!!!
ShelbyLee
04 Sep 2012, 22:26
The violinist said she added many of her parts in the studio. I guess I agree with those who would prefer more of a "live" experience. Although I think Meat sounds great, Patti sounds great, and the band is great. I will have to listen to it more.
ShelbyLee
04 Sep 2012, 22:28
I enjoyed the interviews in the trailer. Is that part of the documentary?
I can't wait to hear all of Stand in the Storm. My fave so far!
White of High
05 Sep 2012, 01:01
I think I am one of the most censorious on the forum and almost everybody knows my opinion about Meat's voice in the last 10 years.
I hated the trailer, the band sounded good but Meat's voice was horrible. I listened Bat a few minutes ago. And... that was far the best performance (show and voice) I saw in the last 10 years from him. I don't know how he sounded live because his voice is masked but it was very okay. Congratulation for the studio works. It's a DVD so they can't sell it with bad voice. Echo is not good, various times you can here it's remastered in studio, but I wish Meat's voice was as good as in this 11 minutes was...
I'm not convinced Meat still can sing but that was good! In Hungary we say: "one swallow doesn't make summer"...
almost everybody knows my opinion about Meat's voice in the last 10 years.
PM it to me?
White of High
05 Sep 2012, 01:47
Sent!
And for those of us who don't want to install iTunes? :wall:
Found this, for none iTuners (http://soundcloud.com/lew-ashby-1/snippet)
Elijah's way
05 Sep 2012, 15:26
I love the echoes! I wish they would add The Giving Tree and Our Love And Our Souls from this tour.
Michael Marxen
05 Sep 2012, 18:09
from todays news on www.melodicock.com:
MEAT LOAF- THE GUILTY PLEASURE TOUR:
New DVD, due on October 23, Captures The Ultimate Meatloaf Concert Experience At Sold Out Australian Arena Show
Concert-One TV, the innovative UK-based production company has announced it will release Meat Loaf - The Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD, which was captured during the singer's recent sold-out Australian Tour. Featuring a blend of classic Meat Loaf hits and material from his last few albums, The Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD will give fans the definitive bird's eye view of the legendary singer during one of his most memorable performances. Released worldwide on October 23, the DVD will include a bonus documentary on Meat Loaf in Australia which includes a brand new in depth interview with the man himself. "What was captured on tape at this sell out concert was the 'true live' Meat Loaf experience," says Concert-One President, Steve Timmins. "He really does put 110% into his shows and this one captures his HUGE performance, backed by his brilliant band, The Neverland Express."
The Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD presents the most technologically advanced filming of a Meat Loaf concert ever captured. Utilizing 15 Hi-Def cameras, including 2 cranes and a dolly to capture the movement and energy, as well as stationary and remote cameras placed around the venue and onstage, the viewer will experience the performance almost as if they were on the stage themselves. "The viewer gets to see what he or she would normally never see from being in the audience," says Meat Loaf, who took a proactive involvement during the planning, filming and post-production of the video. "(They see) the hands, the fingers, the facial expressions, the intensities; those kinds of things. That is what we were going for, to make the DVD different than the live show. The viewer gets to live in a different world."
The show was shot at the Sydney Entertainment Centre in Australia, during a completely sold-out 10,000 seat arena on the singer's 2012 tour. DVD producer, Lyn Beardsall says: "The venue was great for filming. It had good access for us, and it was sold out, so we were guaranteed an enthusiastic Australian crowd. Meat Loaf was involved in every aspect of the video including the edit and 5.1 surround sound mixing. He also insisted we use a director he had worked with in the past, Paul (PR) Jones."
Adds Beardsall: "Paul had worked with Meat Loaf on a number of occasions and knew exactly what he was looking for. He wanted a lot of movement as the show is high energy and he wanted to capture that energy. No matter what you're doing- whether you are onstage or doing a scene in a TV show or movie or singing a song, there is different techniques- but it all comes down to one thing- finding the truth in the moment."
Born Marvin Lee Aday in Texas, Meat Loaf exploded on international music scene in 1977, with the release of his icon debut thematic album, Bat Out Of Hell, written by friend and colleague, Jim Steinman. Among the albums to define the arena rock genre, it has sold to date over 43 million copies, making it the fifth highest selling album of all time. He went on to have several more gold and platinum successes with Dead Ringer (1981), Bad Attitude (1984) and the Bat Out Of Hell sequels Bat Out Of Hell II: Back Into Hell (1993) and Bat Out Of Hell III: The Monster Is Loose (2006).
In 2010, he released Hang Cool Teddy Bear, followed by this year's Hell In A Hand Basket. He has also starred in several dozen Hollywood films, including the legendary Rocky Horror Picture Show, and Fight Club, where he acted opposite Brad Pitt.
Meat Loaf has released several popular DVD titles prior to The Guilty Pleasure Tour. They include: Bat Out Of Hell - The Original Tour; Bat 3 Live; and Live With The Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. Says Concert One's Steve Timmins: "On The Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD Meat Loaf gives his fans exactly what they are wanting to see. He knows what he wants and has had a lot of experience in front of a camera so knows exactly what works."
Adds Meat Loaf: "I only know one way. And that is: you either walk out on stage and give 110%, or you don't. Those people that bought those tickets are more important than I am. They are the most important people in the world. They bought that ticket. What matters is what is going on in that audience and making sure they are getting what they paid for."
Meat Loaf- The Guilty Pleasure Tour Produced by Concert-One Ltd: www.concert-one.tv Distributed by INgrooves Fontana: www.ingroovesfontana.com
Concert Running Time: 2 Hours 5 minutes, Documentary Running Time: 40 minutes
DVD contains 13 tracks including Meat Loaf's classic hits: Bat Out of Hell, Living on the Outside, You Took the Words, Two out Three Ain't Bad, Paradise by the Dashboard Light, And the new hit from his appearance on NBC's Celebrity Apprentice Stand in the Storm.
xx
duke knooby
05 Sep 2012, 18:26
5.1 surround sound... cool :)
AndrewG
05 Sep 2012, 18:51
What's the point using all these super high technology advanced super hi def super cameras if you are only going to release the damn thing in SD, 15 year old video technology?!
There should have been a Blu Ray release.
Even the sound quality will suffer on DVD because of compression.
It's almost akin to releasing MSO in VHS in 2004 and then boasting about the technology that has been used to film it.
Oh well....
Elijah's way
06 Sep 2012, 06:41
I love the echoes! I wish they would add The Giving Tree and Our Love And Our Souls from this tour.
Damn I left out Mad Mad World :oops:
Mr. Happy
06 Sep 2012, 11:07
DVD contains 13 tracks including Meat Loaf's classic hits:...Living on the Outside...Stand in the Storm
I always find this sort of promotion funny. "Let's take a random song he performed and present it as if it was a massive hit." I think you're looking for I'd Do Anything For Love or Rock and Roll Dreams :lol:
AndrewG
06 Sep 2012, 14:28
I always find this sort of promotion funny. "Let's take a random song he performed and present it as if it was a massive hit." I think you're looking for I'd Do Anything For Love or Rock and Roll Dreams :lol:
Yes but "Living on the outside" was not a massive hit, it was a classic hit according to that promotion, which according to Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_hits) makes even less sense given the fact it was a very recently released song.
ShelbyLee
06 Sep 2012, 18:18
I've listened to the previews numerous times and I think Meat sounds quite good. Patti's voice is a beautiful accompaniment. The only thing I'm not digging in the songs is violin,which sounds adult contemporary while the rest of the music is rock.
glamourgirl
06 Sep 2012, 19:32
I love the vocal mix with strong vocals by Meat and strong backing vocals by Patti & co. Backing vocals are an important part of Steinman's music/Meat's show. I thought the backing vocals were mixed too low on the Casa live cd--it didn't sound like the Casa show I saw. The Guilty Pleasure vocal mix sounds just like the Hang Cool shows I saw. Nice job!
Evil One
07 Sep 2012, 20:15
Found this, for none iTuners (http://soundcloud.com/lew-ashby-1/snippet)
Just got around to listening to this. The band still sounds excellent, but Meat's vocals aren't as good as on the songs from the PNC show released last year. :whistle:
stretch37
07 Sep 2012, 20:24
Just got around to listening to this. The band still sounds excellent, but Meat's vocals aren't as good as on the songs from the PNC show released last year. :whistle:
and like 90% of the HC Tour shows....it makes me wonder why they are releasing the Australian tour when we know Meat had the bleeding vocal cord, and basically never fully recovered during that tour.....Plus dry weather, and a really terrible attitude from some of his fans and the press that I think just transferred into bad energy for Meat.....I wish they would have released one from the Hang Cool Tour instead, it would have shown the world how effing amazing Meat still is. (ie) you wouldn't get a review of the DVD saying he has "less energy now" because most of the hang cool bootlegs I have show more energy than the MSO DVD.
glamourgirl
07 Sep 2012, 21:14
and like 90% of the HC Tour shows....it makes me wonder why they are releasing the Australian tour when we know Meat had the bleeding vocal cord, and basically never fully recovered during that tour.....Plus dry weather, and a really terrible attitude from some of his fans and the press that I think just transferred into bad energy for Meat.....I wish they would have released one from the Hang Cool Tour instead, it would have shown the world how effing amazing Meat still is. (ie) you wouldn't get a review of the DVD saying he has "less energy now" because most of the hang cool bootlegs I have show more energy than the MSO DVD.
A dvd of the Hang Cool tour from the UK would have been mind-blowing. Meat was in top form and the setlist included Song of Madness and Dead Ringer. The show was so hard rockin'. The classical violin detracts from the rock sound, imo. Not sure why it was added.
I am really glad I got to see the Hang Cool tour and Mad, Mad World tour and see Meat at the top of his game. Hopefully he will film a future show down the road.
Evil One
07 Sep 2012, 21:43
Hopefully he will film a future show down the road.
A DVD filmed over two nights in the UK at the MEN or the O2 Arena, with a selection of greatest hits and a couple of HIAH songs in the first half and the whole of Bat Out Of Hell in the second would do me nicely. :twisted:
stretch37
07 Sep 2012, 22:27
A dvd of the Hang Cool tour from the UK would have been mind-blowing. Meat was in top form and the setlist included Song of Madness and Dead Ringer. The show was so hard rockin'. The classical violin detracts from the rock sound, imo. Not sure why it was added.
I am really glad I got to see the Hang Cool tour and Mad, Mad World tour and see Meat at the top of his game. Hopefully he will film a future show down the road.
Yup they so were, got to see them both too thankfully.
wait till u see the DVD people!!!
I love that he decided to film the Ozzie show. Violin rocks, Meat sound BETTER then the PNC stuff imo, and I was at the PNC show.
I think this is gonna be teh greatest thing ever. and dont forget that we are getting boardtapes too! maybe they encompass the best shows of the Hang Cool, GP, and MMW tour thus far.
Just got around to listening to this. The band still sounds excellent, but Meat's vocals aren't as good as on the songs from the PNC show released last year. :whistle:
I just hope that somewhere down the road we get to see a 2010 Hang Cool registration (a tv concert?). That tour was too good not to get some sort of video release.
loaferman61
07 Sep 2012, 23:33
and like 90% of the HC Tour shows....it makes me wonder why they are releasing the Australian tour when we know Meat had the bleeding vocal cord, and basically never fully recovered during that tour.....Plus dry weather, and a really terrible attitude from some of his fans and the press that I think just transferred into bad energy for Meat.....I wish they would have released one from the Hang Cool Tour instead, it would have shown the world how effing amazing Meat still is. (ie) you wouldn't get a review of the DVD saying he has "less energy now" because most of the hang cool bootlegs I have show more energy than the MSO DVD.
There were probably numerous plans made in advance that could not easily be changed. It still sounds good enough.
stretch37
08 Sep 2012, 00:05
There were probably numerous plans made in advance that could not easily be changed. It still sounds good enough.
yeah very true, and it definitely does still sound excellent. Its going to be much better than 3 Bats and that is a very good step in the right direction :D
robgomm
08 Sep 2012, 00:07
wait till u see the DVD people!!!
I love that he decided to film the Ozzie show. Violin rocks, Meat sound BETTER then the PNC stuff imo, and I was at the PNC show.
I think this is gonna be teh greatest thing ever. and dont forget that we are getting boardtapes too! maybe they encompass the best shows of the Hang Cool, GP, and MMW tour thus far.
Agree 100%. Some people are never happy.
stretch37
08 Sep 2012, 02:12
Agree 100%. Some people are never happy.
I'm super happy about this dvd. Just because I feel like discussing what may have been a better show (at a better time when Meat wasn't hurtin) to release does not mean I'm not perfectly content with this DVD release. Meat's performances are all excellent, and I'll be very happy to see this one.....I'm suggesting the energy may not be as fantastic as the US/UK shows, but it will still be great and I'm really looking forward to it :)
Agree 100%. Some people are never happy.
Exactly. Be happy for what you have, and don't worry about what you don't have ;)
We asked Meat for a DVD of the HCTB tour ...... he filmed one, he's going to make sure he's happy with it,
and IMO it's going to be amazing :))
AndrewG
08 Sep 2012, 23:39
Agree 100%. Some people are never happy.
I don't think it's just that. Some people can but dream surely? ;-)
Personally I would have loved a release from the Wembley show in 2010 as I really thought that was Meat's best I've seen since RAH but then a lot of others who saw multiple shows on that UK tour said he was better in other places. To me personally Meat ~~~~ing rocked the house down at Wembley and he seems to do that perfectly when things come together and he is happy himself. I'm not saying the Ozzie show is bad or a waste of time, far from it, just think that from a personal experience it looked like London 2010 was better as he seemed more in control of everything.
I still love the violin.
Agree 100%. Some people are never happy.
But in the end a critical person will enjoy a GREAT product better than a person who is happy with everything... ;)
AndrewG
09 Sep 2012, 01:16
But in the end a critical person will enjoy a GREAT product better than a person who is happy with everything... ;)
In the end "better" is just subjective.
In the end "better" is just subjective.
But more objective than claiming it's all great ;)
I wish people dared to acknowledge the difference in quality more often. Then they would enjoy a stand out product better than when they don't dare to acknowledge flaws :cool: No matter how subjective you may think that sounds :twisted:
It's good NOT to equally enjoy everything you get. It will make you become indifferent. Or even unconcerned.
Evil One
09 Sep 2012, 15:38
A DVD filmed over two nights in the UK at the MEN or the O2 Arena, with a selection of greatest hits and a couple of HIAH songs in the first half and the whole of Bat Out Of Hell in the second would do me nicely. :twisted:
Thundery sound effects / Nocturnal Pleasure / If It Ain't Broke Break It
Modern Girl
Dead Ringer For Love
I'd Lie For You
Live Or Die
California Dreamin'
The Giving Tree
I'd Do Anything For Love
Objects In The Rear View Mirror
Rock And Roll Dreams
Bat Out Of Hell
You Took The Words
Heaven Can Wait
All Revved Up
Two Out Of Three
Paradise
For Crying Out Loud
Mercury Blues
Why Don't We Do It In The Road
a new cover (something by Queen or The Who perhaps? :shrug:)
Gimme Shelter
Do Frying Pan and Lemon as soundchecks for a double CD special edition and Bob's your uncle, Fanny's your aunt and I've taken this thread completely off topic. :lol:
OMG. HOT PATOOTIE, and ANYTHING FOR LOVE SOUND FREAKING AMAZING. I CANT WAIT FOR THIS
SITS looks like its been remixed. awesome.
That may be the worst Hot Patootie to ever see release. Vocally, Meat just sounds awful in that 1.5 minute clip. By the time he hits the chorus, "hopped in the backseat, really had a good time" he literally seems to be just screaming, and not even screaming well. Can't believe they didn't dub the vocals on that one.
I agree with what a few others have said, maybe Australia, with all the issues going on over there, wasn't the place to do this. I'm sure it was probably planned to far ahead, but the end product is unfortunately a sub par representation of Meat.
And before anybody runs in on their high horse, this is all IN MY OPINION.
But in the end a critical person will enjoy a GREAT product better than a person who is happy with everything... ;)
Not in my view. To enjoy an artist's work across the board without subjecting it to strong criticism does not mean that there will not be occasions when you are absolutely blown away by what he does. That I have never been unhappy with a performance of Meat's doesn't mean I can neither spot nor be thrilled when he kicks it out of the park. And as enjoyment of anything is wholly subjective, no-one can say with any authority that anyone else's enjoyment of a GREAT performance is any greater than mine. I don't have to be disappointed or find fault with the other dishes served at a banquet just because one was sublime. Thankfully I can enjoy all of them even though one outshines some of the others.
Caryl
I agree with what a few others have said, maybe Australia, with all the issues going on over there, wasn't the place to do this. I'm sure it was probably planned to far ahead, but the end product is unfortunately a sub par representation of Meat.
And before anybody runs in on their high horse, this is all IN MY OPINION.
From what I have been able to see and hear Mark my opinion is that this is not sub-par. In the songs featured in the 18 minute promo I saw and heard a good representation of the shows I thrilled to on that tour, and Meat's vocals were great. The shooting will have been planned far in advance, and when the day arrives Meat plays the hand he's holding. I think he played it extremely well.
When I've heard Hot Patootie I will come back and respond. If I don't find it as great as I did on the tour I'll say so, but I do not believe I will find it matches your description, nor would I ever describe it in that way.
Caryl
Paul Richardson
09 Sep 2012, 23:34
Not in my view. To enjoy an artist's work across the board without subjecting it to strong criticism does not mean that there will not be occasions when you are absolutely blown away by what he does. That I have never been unhappy with a performance of Meat's doesn't mean I can neither spot nor be thrilled when he kicks it out of the park. And as enjoyment of anything is wholly subjective, no-one can say with any authority that anyone else's enjoyment of a GREAT performance is any greater than mine. I don't have to be disappointed or find fault with the other dishes served at a banquet just because one was sublime. Thankfully I can enjoy all of them even though one outshines some of the others.
Caryl
It doesn't matter what you think - sometimes no one can hear you scream ;) Sad but true ...
Paul Richardson
09 Sep 2012, 23:40
When I've heard Hot Patootie I will come back and respond. If I don't find it as great as I did on the tour I'll say so.
Caryl
Looking forward to it. I'm sure Hot Patootie will rock as ever - its some of the other classics that may be not as great as ever - but by all means prove me wrong !!!
Looking forward to it. I'm sure Hot Patootie will rock as ever - its some of the other classics that may be not as great as ever - but by all means prove me wrong !!!
I was referring to Hot Patootie as commented on by Mark. If when I hear it I think it does not live up to the performances I saw on the tour I will say so.
I don't expect any song to sound like it did when it was performed in 1978. Meat's voice has matured, he moves on, and I do with him. However, he has overcome the vocal difficulties that beset him leading up to the vocal cyst. He's been performing superbly in my view since he recovered from that, I was delighted with his performance at every show I went to on the Hang Cool tour, and from what I have heard and seen on the 18 minute promo clip here, the Sydney show faithfully lives up to those. BOOH, AFL, SITS and R&RD all stand out as doing that. However, I have not the slightest inclination to prove you wrong, change your perceptions, or push elephants uphill sideways ;)
I'll pass on your other response to one of my posts as I haven't a clue what you're trying to suggest.
Caryl
wizardofodd
10 Sep 2012, 01:54
Well all I have to say is I watched BAT and I think it is outstanding, yes it has been edited- dubbed- re-recorded- whatever it is - which is completely expected. Meats vocals are exceptional , the band is great as usual - lighting is fantastic. Cut very Best Bat i've heard since MSO- i love the addition of the orchestra on MSO so that is pretty untouchable for me personally. This DVD is going to be great-I'm happy.
I've watched the promo of BOOH a few times now and I really love it. Yes, it might have been re-recorded but to be honest, I don't actually care. All that matters to me is that I enjoy the DVD and if the rest of it is as good as the promo then I'm sure I'm going to love it. :D
AndrewG
10 Sep 2012, 12:47
How do we know it's overdubbed? Is there evidence?
I think it would have sounded better/different if it had. Compare Meat's studio vocals on HIAH etc. I think those are the original vocals.
How do we know it's overdubbed? Is there evidence?
Just lots of opinions I think ;)
I think it would have sounded better/different if it had. Compare Meat's studio vocals on HIAH etc. I think those are the original vocals.
I think it could well have sounded different. To me it sounds just like the concerts I attended. That BOOH is really great. And at the end of the day, like Jenna, I don't give a rats' if anything has been tweaked, effects added, or anything else. Meat's vocals were brilliant on the tour, the band is just the best, and if this DVD takes me back to the wonderful nights of brilliant shows I experienced .. that's what matters to me.
Meat's giving us the DVD we asked for. He wants it to be the best it can be. That's what I love about the man .. he wants all the time to give us the very best he can. I shall bang it in the DVD (non-Blu Ray) player, sit back without a stopwatch in my hand, and simply enjoy what he has signed off on. The lighting for me simply enhances the feeling of being in the arena .. so I love that. Will he sound like he did in 1978? Not much of the time; that was over 30 years ago, and we've all moved on. Will he be pitch perfect on every single note? Probably not. Will he be a nanosecond or two out on timing at some point? Quite possibly. But will he deliver a fantastic, hugely entertaining and polished show with flair, passion, incredible energy and total commitment? In my view, without a doubt. That's what I'm buying, that's why I'll love it, and that's why I thank him so much for doing it :D
Caryl
but the end product is unfortunately a sub par representation of Meat.
Watch the entire DVD then see what you say. u have no idea what the final product is like, you only know what youve been appetized.
Watch the entire DVD then see what you say. u have no idea what the final product is like, you only know what youve been appetized.
If the large appetizers are that sour, then I'm not holding my breath that the main course will suddenly sound better than what they are promoting the thing with
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Watch the entire DVD then see what you say. u have no idea what the final product is like, you only know what youve been appetized.
The thing is that the tasters are designed to give people an idea of the DVD and tempt them to buy it but if you don't like what you see in the teasers then there's not a lot to persuade you to buy it.
It's like any product, if you don't like the sound of it from the commercials then you probably won't be rushing out to buy it.
I, personally, have been impressed with the majority of what I have seen about this DVD and because of that I am looking forward to the moment when I can watch it.
This DVD is not going to appeal to everyone but I can't think of a single product that IS universally liked. It doesn't mean the products are inferior, it's just the way the world works.
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stretch37
11 Sep 2012, 21:15
How do we know it's overdubbed? Is there evidence?
I think it would have sounded better/different if it had. Compare Meat's studio vocals on HIAH etc. I think those are the original vocals.
I used HIAHB and HCTB as a reference when I mixed the DVD.
Regarding the songs, I mixed the entire concert. Every second of it, even a few minutes prior and after the performance. I have no idea what songs will make the final cut.
We simply beefed things up. The band doubled each of their backing vocal parts without deleting what's already there. Beefed crowd noise and ran all the mics through some tuning software. Just grabbing words here or there.
We also went in and fixed some instrument tuning issues here and there. But again, as little as possible. We wanted to keep the arena ambience. Ambience is good.
There are mistakes throughout the evening but so what...
P
Proof? :-P
Proof? :-P
Information on backing vocals, instrument tuning and crowd noise. Nothing about overdubbing, autotuning etc of Meat's vocals, which seems to me to be the inference frequently on this thread and others.
And I'm still surprised that anyone (not referring to you Matt) would think that the clip we've seen and heard of BOOH from the DVD is not terrific, and an ideal taster.
Caryl
stretch37
12 Sep 2012, 00:46
Information on backing vocals, instrument tuning and crowd noise. Nothing about overdubbing, autotuning etc of Meat's vocals, which seems to me to be the inference frequently on this thread and others.
And I'm still surprised that anyone (not referring to you Matt) would think that the clip we've seen and heard of BOOH from the DVD is not terrific, and an ideal taster.
Caryl
Yeah that's one thing I found when re-reading Paul's post, it talks about the band members, not Meat Loaf. Its hard to tell if he is commenting on Meat or not. I totally agree regarding BOOH from the dvd. It sounds absolutely awesome. Its very exciting :)
He didnt mention meat for a reason. Meat is totally overdubbed and it sounds amazing. just what I wanted! a perfect mix, unlike what 3 bats live was.
I love all the previews. this will look and sound amazinggggg
AndrewG
12 Sep 2012, 01:00
Meat is totally overdubbed and it sounds amazing.
Some here are really sure of themselves aren't they? :roll:
I'm sorry, over dubbed or not, he does not sound amazing, nor does BOOH in this instance. The vocals, IMO are bad, the violin doesn't fit with the sound, and that echo is just outright annoying and makes it sound over produced.
I have played the EPK and the iTunes previews for several people outside of the Meaty community and all of them say that there is no way that they could make it through the whole thing with the way he sounds.
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samurai7
12 Sep 2012, 01:33
If you read what Paul posted again, you'll see that he said they ran all the mics through some tuning software, grabbing words here and there that needed a tune-up. And obviously Meat was singing into a mic, so...
Hey, I'm all for it. I want the DVD to be brilliant, jut like everyone here. If that means the bits that were considered sub par (by the guys that played 'em) have been made better, then why not? I certainly would tidy any niggly little things up if it were my release (I wish!)
Julie in the rv mirror
12 Sep 2012, 06:09
He didnt mention meat for a reason. Meat is totally overdubbed and it sounds amazing. just what I wanted! a perfect mix, unlike what 3 bats live was.
I obviously don't know for sure what was overdubbed and what wasn't, but for me, a "totally overdubbed" live performance isn't live anymore. :shrug:
Springsteen's voice was pretty shredded in parts on the "Live in Hyde Park" DVD, but they left it that way- it's what he sounded like at the time.
I see circles......
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And I'm still surprised that anyone (not referring to you Matt) would think that the clip we've seen and heard of BOOH from the DVD is not terrific, and an ideal taster.
Maybe you'd be less surprised if you realized that not everybody is like you in this respect. ;)
I'm not overly excited about this. I like the music but the way Meat Loaf sounds on stage these days is not my cup of tea :( - overdubbed or not overdubbed, echo or no echo. Mind you, I'm not saying it's bad, I just don't like his current style of singing when it comes to concerts. (Just in case someone who can't differentiate between a judgement and a personal opinion wants to start another argument.)
Mr. Happy
12 Sep 2012, 14:35
Springsteen's voice was pretty shredded in parts on the "Live in Hyde Park" DVD, but they left it that way- it's what he sounded like at the time.
London Calling. Very first song. My God. That one was in desperate need of an overdub :|
If that's how he felt that's how he felt !! Can't change how he feels, I' sorry he feels that way. I care more about him than he does me !!!!! I heard the tape and it will be the DVDand The tape doesn't lie , About 80% from the live show vocals I'm keeping. I think I read the review it was so far removed from what happened I couldn't even be a little upset. Little unknown fact , There was a good review of the show to run that paper , They would not print the review. That Paper has gone after me 7 times about the AFL live thing and they have been just real Jerks , every chance they get they write something bad. Don't know , must have said something bad about the editors Mother. LOL, oh well Life moves on !!! So do I . Again sorry he felt that way.
Love Ya'll
MeaT
To all of you saying it wasn't overdubbed. Took ages to find, but I KNEW he said he was re-recording parts a while back ;)
from http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=555592#post555592
That said, this was a while ago and things might have changed since then, AND only 20% redone isn't a hell of a lot. So even if it was overdubbed, the vast majority of it was live.
From the sound of it, part of that 20% is in Bat. There's bits here and there, but what the hell is that "note" Meat "sings" at the end of the piano solo in the intro? The high YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!? :shock: I am NOT digging for it again, but he also said that Hot Patootie and Break It were shaky somewhere along the line. So they might have been overdubbed in parts, too. Either way, it's not a big deal. Sounds great, and that's all that matters :)
loaferman61
12 Sep 2012, 16:15
Maybe you'd be less surprised if you realized that not everybody is like you in this respect. ;)
:cheers:
From the sound of it, part of that 20% is in Bat. There's bits here and there, but what the hell is that "note" Meat "sings" at the end of the piano solo in the intro? The high YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!? :shock: I am NOT digging for it again, but he also said that Hot Patootie and Break It were shaky somewhere along the line. So they might have been overdubbed in parts, too. Either way, it's not a big deal. Sounds great, and that's all that matters :)
I'm not a fan of those 3 or 4 random screams they put in there they sound fake and really don't sounds good in the context of the song
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OMG! We are going round in circles here people.
No - not everyone is going to agree what we have seen via Youtube and heard via iTunes (and other sites/programs) is "fantastic" "spectacular" "bad" "sick" or any other adjective in the thesaurus. There are people who will like the product and people who will not like the product. It is art; therefore, subjective - up to the consumer's taste. I have said it before and will say it again....this is just like politics people....it is fun to discuss, but until you see passed your own ego and realize there are people with differing opinions out there, you will just be going round in circles.
I'd say appreciate or ridicule for what it is, respect the opinions of other posters, carry on intelligent conversation - however, this constant "my way or the highway" type of discourse will only lead this topic to the lock box like so many other conversations have gone before. Remember, there are free thinking people behind each post on this board - you cannot control their thoughts/opinions, the same as they cannot control yours.
Now...anyone have anything NEW to add to the conversation?
Smithie
12 Sep 2012, 21:15
I have listened to the song clips many times, and I think the vocals are great.
I am kind of confused about the video edit. Ginny only performed in a few shows, but she appears in more camera frames than any of the other band members (and some of the band have been with Meat for a decade or even 2 decades).
Ginny [...] appears in more camera frames than any of the other band members [...]
I watched the 5 minute trailer, the EPK as well as Bat Out Of Hell and don't think that the camera focuses more on her than on other members. When you hear a distinctive guitar or drum sound, there are close-ups of Paul or John (for example) and when you hear the violin, you get to see Ginny. What's wrong with that? It's good editing, in my opinion. And why does it matter how long someone has been in the band? The most important thing is that someone does a good job. I don't see any reasons for jealousy.
Smithie
12 Sep 2012, 21:49
I watched the 5 minute trailer, the EPK as well as Bat Out Of Hell and don't think that the camera focuses more on her than on other members. When you hear a distinctive guitar or drum sound, there are close-ups of Paul or John (for example) and when you hear the violin, you get to see Ginny. What's wrong with that? It's good editing, in my opinion. And why does it matter how long someone has been in the band? The most important thing is that someone does a good job. I don't see any reasons for jealousy.
Sometimes the camera misses the real action on stage, like in LA when they break away to the audience with their arms folded because they don't know the song. Danny didn't get many shots. Many times Patti was blocked in the shot by Randy. Some of the camera angles seemed odd to me, just my opinion. I'm sure it will be fine when we see the entire final product.
Some of the camera angles seemed odd to me, just my opinion.
You might have a point here but I fail to realize how this leads to Ginny getting more attention than the other band members.
I think it's not that easy to capture and show everything that's going on on stage and everybody have their own idea of what "the real action" is. It doesn't look too bad to me so far, the only thing that bothers me is the blue light. It's just used too much for my liking.
glamourgirl
12 Sep 2012, 22:34
I think they captured the band on their instruments, but many times I can hear Patti's voice and they miss a shot of her or she's blocked in the shot. I'm sure it is difficult to capture everything on stage. With 15 cameras, I'm not sure why they included some of the distant shots or shots from behind where you can't really see what's happening.
glamourgirl
12 Sep 2012, 22:38
Regardless, I'm going to enjoy the dvd when it's released. Like Dave said, it's all just opinion and a matter of taste. No one is right or wrong.
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