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Monstro
12 Mar 2012, 22:19
On the front page of itunes

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Julie in the rv mirror
12 Mar 2012, 22:27
There is no sax on "Meeting Across the River"- it's a trumpet.

mtaylor315
12 Mar 2012, 22:49
Thanks for this :-)

Now listening to each track on Spotify x

LucyK!
12 Mar 2012, 23:26
There is no sax on "Meeting Across the River"- it's a trumpet.

:lol: So glad you took one for the team and pointed that out lol

duke knooby
12 Mar 2012, 23:58
"jim steinman is the best" i can't really argue with that :-)

Elijah's way
13 Mar 2012, 00:54
To bad it's not on the US itunes.

mtaylor315
13 Mar 2012, 03:29
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0sl48gr1g1rq5q1ko1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3 Q&Expires=1331691993&Signature=lEk9zAtXvgIwCXI%2F56i8yYx0LGU%3D

I put the parts together before I posted it to Facebook, so I might as well post it here too :lol:

Dave
13 Mar 2012, 04:22
All that and the new album no where to be found on iTunes..... loverly

chairboys
13 Mar 2012, 08:44
The one song I don't like on Meat's playlist is My Way.
It is without doubt my least favourite song EVER. I scream whenever I hear it.
Horrible horrible song. (IMO)

PanicLord
13 Mar 2012, 09:22
The one song I don't like on Meat's playlist is My Way.
It is without doubt my least favourite song EVER. I scream whenever I hear it.
Horrible horrible song. (IMO)


Ouch! Sorry, my jaw just hit the floor! Really?

olblueeyes
13 Mar 2012, 12:19
The one song I don't like on Meat's playlist is My Way.
It is without doubt my least favourite song EVER. I scream whenever I hear it.
Horrible horrible song. (IMO)

Frank Sinatra didn't like the song for a number of years either, nor did he like Strangers In The Night - probably because they are fundamentally pretty simple songs. I don't dislike My Way, but it wouldn't even be in my top 50 Sinatra songs. For most people karaoke has ruined My Way.

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A Slice Of English
13 Mar 2012, 12:49
I'm chuffed that Meat likes the Goo Goo Dolls, I think they're awesome.

Sarge
13 Mar 2012, 13:04
Frank Sinatra didn't like the song for a number of years either, nor did he like Strangers In The Night - probably because they are fundamentally pretty simple songs.

FYI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tadEl9y0Qdc

Sue K
13 Mar 2012, 13:23
There is no sax on "Meeting Across the River"- it's a trumpet.

OH ... lol ... Thanks for clearing that up... I read the word as "sex" ! ... Need new glasses or a cleaner mind ... rolling ... xo

OH and thanks for posting this... It was a fun read ... I think two of the songs are on my playlist ... Bob Seger's song and ... I forget the other for now ... lol ... OH ... FCOL ... of course... lol ... duh ... OH... so THREE are on my playlist... but I ... OH Eagles... okay ... there we go ... xo

RSG
13 Mar 2012, 15:49
I'm chuffed that Meat likes the Goo Goo Dolls, I think they're awesome.

I'm surprised to see Foo Fighters!

lorenzoduke
13 Mar 2012, 17:00
All that and the new album no where to be found on iTunes..... loverly

The album was on the front page of UK iTunes for 2 weeks.

stretch37
13 Mar 2012, 17:23
The album was on the front page of UK iTunes for 2 weeks.

It finally showed up on the US/CA itunes this morning. You have to run a search to find it though. There's barely been any promo, barely any effort by the record company.....Meat said he'd be happy if Sony US took care of him....I don't see that happening. Hopefully stuff happens in the next few days that changes things.

Hopefully Leno goes well, and there's some other goodies planned as well.

lorenzoduke
13 Mar 2012, 17:31
It finally showed up on the US/CA itunes this morning. You have to run a search to find it though. There's barely been any promo, barely any effort by the record company.....Meat said he'd be happy if Sony US took care of him....I don't see that happening. Hopefully stuff happens in the next few days that changes things.

Hopefully Leno goes well, and there's some other goodies planned as well.

Indeed, little sign of anything Stateside. So much for Celebrity Apprentice raising his profile over there.

olblueeyes
13 Mar 2012, 19:40
FYI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tadEl9y0Qdc

Undoubtedly the world would never have heard it had it remained Comme d'habitude (or 'As Usual') and Paul Anka hadn't rewritten the lyric to those of My Way.

Sarge
13 Mar 2012, 21:14
Undoubtedly the world would never have heard it had it remained Comme d'habitude (or 'As Usual') and Paul Anka hadn't rewritten the lyric to those of My Way.

I'm not sure whether it's only because of the changed lyrics. Would it have become that popular if the song hadn't been given to Sinatra?

olblueeyes
13 Mar 2012, 22:43
I'm not sure whether it's only because of the changed lyrics. Would it have become that popular if the song hadn't been given to Sinatra?

Yes I mean that had it not been changed, I doubt it would have been recorded by Sinatra. Paul Anka penned the lyrics intending it for Sinatra. My Way as a lyric had that bravado about it very much synonymous with Sinatra.

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Sarge
13 Mar 2012, 22:56
My Way as a lyric had that bravado about it very much synonymous with Sinatra.

I totally agree with that. I've heard renditions (even in other languages than English) that were clearly inspired by Sinatra and the performers - consciously or subconsciously - tried to be like him. No matter who sings it, in most cases it still seems to be his song.

olblueeyes
13 Mar 2012, 23:07
I totally agree with that. I've heard renditions (even in other languages than English) that were clearly inspired by Sinatra and the performers - consciously or subconsciously - tried to be like him. No matter who sings it, in most cases it still seems to be his song.

Yes undoubtedly his song, no one sang it with such conviction. When he sang it live, especially in the first few years, he took a reasonably simple song and gave you chills. A great example of a studio version that pales in comparison to many a live version.

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lorenzoduke
13 Mar 2012, 23:10
My Way without a doubt did more damage to Sinatra's career than good. People think they know him because of that one song. The majority of people would never give his great albums like 'Watertown', 'She Shot Me Down', 'Sings For Only The Lonely', and 'In The Wee Small Hours' even a chance because they think they know him through that one signature song that he didn't even like or connect with on a personal level. Sinatra himself said he thought it was an 'arrogant' song. If Sinatra thought it was arrogant...well....

olblueeyes
13 Mar 2012, 23:18
My Way without a doubt did more damage to Sinatra's career than good. People think they know him because of that one song. The majority of people would never give his great albums like 'Watertown', 'She Shot Me Down', 'Sings For Only The Lonely', and 'In The Wee Small Hours' even a chance because they think they know him through that one signature song that he didn't even like or connect with on a personal level. Sinatra himself said he thought it was an 'arrogant' song. If Sinatra thought it was arrogant...well....

There may be some artistic truth in that - Watertown was an incredibly powerful album, and sold very little - but it is one of the Sinatra canon that continues to keep his music relevant in the minds of young people. Only The Lonely was already a successful and widely celebrated album from 10 years earlier. Sinatra did hate the song to begin with but he warmed to it eventually according to comments he made in the 80s. There's no denying that he was great at it though.

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Sarge
14 Mar 2012, 00:11
My Way without a doubt did more damage to Sinatra's career than good. People think they know him because of that one song. The majority of people would never give his great albums [...] even a chance because they think they know him through that one signature song

That's the case with many artists. Ask someone what they know about Bruce Springsteen, The Beatles, Elton John, whoever... If the person you talk to isn't a die-hard music fan, he/she will probably rather associate these artists with songs like Born In The U.S.A., She Loves You, Can You Feel The Love Tonight than with Incident On 57th Street, A Day In The Life or Madman Across The Water. Often an artist's other work is more interesting than the biggest hits but it's the biggest hits that keep the artist in the public eye.

How many people would buy Meat Loaf's albums today if Bat Out Of Hell and his comeback album in 1993 hadn't been such a huge success? What would these albums sound like? Would he still release albums at all? He clearly benefits from his hits but they also make some people think that he has only released one or two hit albums some years ago and hasn't accomplished anything else in the meantime - or make them complain about that his other albums don't sound like Bat Out Of Hell or Bat Out Of Hell II.

lorenzoduke
14 Mar 2012, 00:41
There may be some artistic truth in that - Watertown was an incredibly powerful album, and sold very little - but it is one of the Sinatra canon that continues to keep his music relevant in the minds of young people. Only The Lonely was already a successful and widely celebrated album from 10 years earlier. Sinatra did hate the song to begin with but he warmed to it eventually according to comments he made in the 80s. There's no denying that he was great at it though.

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I agree with some of that and you obviously know your stuff - but I wonder for instance, how many people under 30 are put off exploring Sinatra's catalog due to 'that song'.

That's the case with many artists. Ask someone what they know about Bruce Springsteen, The Beatles, Elton John, whoever... If the person you talk to isn't a die-hard music fan, he/she will probably rather associate these artists with songs like Born In The U.S.A., She Loves You, Can You Feel The Love Tonight than with Incident On 57th Street, A Day In The Life or Madman Across The Water. Often an artist's other work is more interesting than the biggest hits but it's the biggest hits that keep the artist in the public eye.

How many people would buy Meat Loaf's albums today if Bat Out Of Hell and his comeback album in 1993 hadn't been such a huge success? What would these albums sound like? Would he still release albums at all? He clearly benefits from his hits but they also make some people think that he has only released one or two hit albums some years ago and hasn't accomplished anything else in the meantime - or make them complain about that his other albums don't sound like Bat Out Of Hell or Bat Out Of Hell II.

The difference is Bat Out Of Hell is symbolic and representative of the spirit of Meat Loaf's work, even his non-Steinman albums. Triumph over adversity, heart on sleeve, emotional, pushing over the edge. It's a fair bet that if you don't like Bat you won't like Meat Loaf, and if you do, you'll like some of his other stuff. These are things we can apply to the majority if not all of Meat's work. The kind of swaggering, snotty, cocky self-aggrandizing of 'My Way' is not representative of Sinatra's work.

olblueeyes
14 Mar 2012, 00:57
I agree with some of that and you obviously know your stuff - but I wonder for instance, how many people under 30 are put off exploring Sinatra's catalog due to 'that song'.

I hit 30 this year and I got into Sinatra aged 18 knowing little but definitely My Way was among the most prominent songs I'd been aware of. It intrigued me and made me want to know who was behind that. And that was without any parental (or grandparental) influence. I guess it just depends on the listener. I do take your point though and see your logic.

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CarylB
14 Mar 2012, 00:57
For most people karaoke has ruined My Way.


Yet one more reason to avoid karaoke and anywhere it is going on like the plague imo ;)

I can see why Meat would have it on his playlist :-) He's one of a kind who walks to his own drummer on his own road strewn with rocks and rabbit holes. The message of the song is perfect ;)

Caryl

Evil Ernie
14 Mar 2012, 02:15
I wish that he would have included another Steinman song besides one of his own. It would have shown more acknowledgement of his work outside of what he did with him. Perhaps something more obscure that people would like if they knew about it. Such as "Tonight Is What It Means To Be Young" or even something from "Bad For Good".

It's sort of bugged me that he never seems complementary of Jims' work away from him. IMO almost all of it is equal to the ML material.

Good list otherwise.

Julie in the rv mirror
14 Mar 2012, 02:30
OH ... lol ... Thanks for clearing that up... I read the word as "sex" ! ... Need new glasses or a cleaner mind ... rolling ... xo


:lol: There's no violins on the song either: ;)

http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi3337551897/

robgomm
14 Mar 2012, 09:31
Hey that's a cool playlist! Thanks for sharing. I love that he says For Crying Out Loud is the best love song ever written. Do you think that's his favourite song to perform and Objects is his second?

chairboys
14 Mar 2012, 13:55
Ouch! Sorry, my jaw just hit the floor! Really?

how's the chin?

People think they know him because of that one song.

Actually, two. The equally horrendous New York New York.

Often an artist's other work is more interesting than the biggest hits but it's the biggest hits that keep the artist in the public eye.



Definitely

For most people karaoke has ruined My Way.


Yet one more reason to avoid karaoke and anywhere it is going on like the plague imo ;)



Yes and Yes!

I admit I am not familiar with Sinatra's work bar those two songs ( I probably know more without realising)
However, I did hear a song on the radio the other day and thought it was terrific. Before the DJ revealed the artist I had at least sussed it was olblueseyes due to his very distinctive voice and style. So, there is hope for me yet!

olblueeyes
14 Mar 2012, 16:53
I admit I am not familiar with Sinatra's work bar those two songs ( I probably know more without realising)
However, I did hear a song on the radio the other day and thought it was terrific. Before the DJ revealed the artist I had at least sussed it was olblueseyes due to his very distinctive voice and style. So, there is hope for me yet!

I'd say that most people probably know at least 10 Sinatra songs, but as you say, wouldn't know that they do until they heard them. Sinatra and Meat Loaf are my two favourites - couldn't be without either one's music.

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PanicLord
14 Mar 2012, 21:17
Yeah, Fly Me To The Moon, That's Life, Strangers In The Night all brilliant too.

There's one I can't stand though - It Was A Very Good Year.

I offer as evidence:

"It was a very good year for blue blooded girls of independent means"

I mean, really?

RSG
14 Mar 2012, 21:26
With all do respect to Sinatra I don' recall a song he has ever recorded or performed. The Meat Loaf UK forum is the only one I keep coming back to and there are ten bands/artists I always come back to. My cousin says I'm missing out on other opportunities. I know what I enjoy as I hear it and I almost never turn a song off if I don't enjoy it or never heard it before.

Evil Ernie
17 Mar 2012, 00:12
Yeah, Fly Me To The Moon, That's Life, Strangers In The Night all brilliant too.

There's one I can't stand though - It Was A Very Good Year.

I offer as evidence:

"It was a very good year for blue blooded girls of independent means"

I mean, really?

#1) He didn't write the song.

#2) It's a great song.

#3) Even if you don't like it, it produced a great parody.

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#4) ML has a song where he describes how he can barely fit his dick in his pants, So I find it hard to critique these lyrics.

Evil Ernie
17 Mar 2012, 00:15
With all do respect to Sinatra I don' recall a song he has ever recorded or performed.

Not one?
http://i565.photobucket.com/albums/ss94/frank996960/Miz-Really.jpg

BostonAngel
17 Mar 2012, 00:29
Now I am going to have to take a listen to all of them. And add some of them to MY playlist. I know I already have Pearl, Adele and Bob Seger. Probably a couple of others too. I love that Meat has such diverse taste in music.

AndrewG
17 Mar 2012, 02:25
Interesting list of songs. Have to agree on Bobby McGee. It's a stellar performance by Janis and the perfect song for her to sing.

I wonder if Meat got "Meeting across the river" and "Jungleland" mixed up? "Jungleland" has the sax solo (one of Clarence Clemons' best surely) and in my opinion is a more descriptive song. On many occasions Bruce and the band performed these two back to back.

Julie in the rv mirror
17 Mar 2012, 04:54
I wonder if Meat got "Meeting across the river" and "Jungleland" mixed up? "Jungleland" has the sax solo (one of Clarence Clemons' best surely) and in my opinion is a more descriptive song. On many occasions Bruce and the band performed these two back to back.

Yeah, I wondered that, too, but I think that "Meeting..." does have a better, albeit short, story. "Jungleland" has kind of a "West Side Story" vibe to it, but I wouldn't classify the sax solo (while fantastic) as "haunting"- but that's me. "Meeting..." is more "film noir". I see "Meeting..." as a prelude to "Jungleland"; i.e. the narrator in "Meeting..." is the Magic Rat.

I can't find the SPL database now for some reason, but actually, I don't think they performed them back-to-back all that frequently (as they are on the album) prior to the full album shows last tour. I have been fortunate enough to see the combo a few times, including twice with Richard Davis, who played the upright bass on the original album. :cool:

AndrewG
17 Mar 2012, 10:39
I can't find the SPL database now for some reason, but actually, I don't think they performed them back-to-back all that frequently (as they are on the album) prior to the full album shows last tour.
See reunion tour setlists, pretty much every time "Meeting" was performed. ;-)

Julie in the rv mirror
17 Mar 2012, 19:47
See reunion tour setlists, pretty much every time "Meeting" was performed. ;-)

Ah, you're right- it's more than I thought. (I was busy with other things during the reunion tour. lol ) Still, 20 or so times out of 35 years isn't really a lot. ;)