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Meat will be performing on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno here in the USA next Wednesday night, March 14, 2012 :))
That's great news!
Thanks for the info Vicki
robgomm
07 Mar 2012, 20:26
Cool! I will share that everywhere when he does it.
That's great news!
Thanks for the info Vicki
Yes .. it's a great opportunity for Meat :))
You're welcome !
Cool! I will share that everywhere when he does it.
Excellent !!
I'll make sure to record and post a clip of it for everybody :-)
That is awesome news! :D Thanks for sharing it!
Thank you very much Vicki !! :-))
That is awesome news! :D Thanks for sharing it!
You're welcome :)) I am really looking forward to it ... even though it means having to sit through Leno's monologue on the show :lol:
Well... I'm psyched !!! Thanks for sharing the great news, Vickster !!!
S ... xo
haha I don't care much for Leno's show. I like Conan's show
I prefer Conan's humor to ... well... humor-less, imo, Leno ... but never watch any of the late night shows unless someone I care about is on ... ie... MEAT !!! ... ;) ... lol ... About the only guests who would have me tuning in would be Meat, Johnny Depp, Garth Brooks or Vincent D'Onofrio ... Otherwise ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... lol...
Deena J
07 Mar 2012, 22:52
even though it means having to sit through Leno's monologue on the show :lol:
That's why I am glad I have a DVR ---- will be able to record & fast forward till I get to the "good part"! :D Thanks for the info!
*conan is the man, Leno not my cup of tea. nothing personal against the man. (what i mean to say) :)
Well... I'm psyched !!! Thanks for sharing the great news, Vickster !!!
S ... xo
You're very welcome :))
I prefer Conan's humor to ... well... humor-less, imo, Leno ... but never watch any of the late night shows unless someone I care about is on ... ie... MEAT !!! ... ;) ... lol ... About the only guests who would have me tuning in would be Meat, Johnny Depp, Garth Brooks or Vincent D'Onofrio ... Otherwise ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... lol...
:lol:
That's why I am glad I have a DVR ---- will be able to record & fast forward till I get to the "good part"! :D Thanks for the info!
Same here :lol:
You're welcome Deena :-)
*conan is the man, Leno not my cup of tea. nothing personal against the man. (what i mean to say) :)
:up:
David Letterman isn't bad either .. but I actually miss George Lopez.
George is great too, speaks very highly of Meat!
It seems like, regardless of what everyone thinks of leno, he supports meat.
I mean Meats performed on leno for his past two records man!
wonder if hes doing all of me or Live or Die?
duke knooby
08 Mar 2012, 00:03
It seems like, regardless of what everyone thinks of leno, he supports meat.
I mean Meats performed on leno for his past two records man!
wonder if hes doing all of me or Live or Die?
he's a great car guy... i like him :D
according to this, hell be doing THE GIVING TREE!!!
http://www.msopr.com/client-roster/meat-loaf-to-perform-on-tonight-show-with-jay-leno-wednesday-march-14-in-conjunction-with-release-of-new-sonylegacy-cd-hell-in-a-handbasket/
stretch37
08 Mar 2012, 00:23
according to this, hell be doing THE GIVING TREE!!!
http://www.msopr.com/client-roster/meat-loaf-to-perform-on-tonight-show-with-jay-leno-wednesday-march-14-in-conjunction-with-release-of-new-sonylegacy-cd-hell-in-a-handbasket/
FINALLY they're making some good decisions!
stretch37
08 Mar 2012, 00:24
ps sony is giving the song away for free, linked from that news page
https://ecard.mds.sonymusic.com/welcome?key=75CCBA58-5088-B7FF-18AA-F719751E77F0
George is great too, speaks very highly of Meat!
Yeah ... it was a shame George's show has been cancelled :(
It seems like, regardless of what everyone thinks of leno, he supports meat.
I mean Meats performed on leno for his past two records man!
wonder if hes doing all of me or Live or Die?
Very true :-)
according to this, hell be doing THE GIVING TREE!!!
http://www.msopr.com/client-roster/meat-loaf-to-perform-on-tonight-show-with-jay-leno-wednesday-march-14-in-conjunction-with-release-of-new-sonylegacy-cd-hell-in-a-handbasket/
You answered your own question :lol: And I still can't believe it !! It's going to be incredible :)) :cheer:
FINALLY they're making some good decisions!
:up:
Elijah's way
08 Mar 2012, 04:25
I can't wait to watch it. :D
I still don't get why they don't do a music video... :roll:
I can't wait to watch it. :D
:up:
I still don't get why they don't do a music video... :roll:
I admit I've been wondering the same thing.
Thanks Vicki, that's great, The Giving Tree is one of my faves from the album. But I would have preferred he be on Conan or Letterman too as we get those shows here. Out of all the millions of US shows, I wish he would be on the few that we get here.
Carole
since all of me live will be an extra either on the dvd or live cd, i wonder if meat and the band have recorded the live arrangement for giving tree too :)
robgomm
08 Mar 2012, 09:36
All good news.
It seems like, regardless of what everyone thinks of leno, he supports meat.
I mean Meats performed on leno for his past two records man!
"and a little WarieL shall lead them" ... You're right, Sweetie... Sorry for the negativity ... xo
ShelbyLee
08 Mar 2012, 16:31
according to this, hell be doing THE GIVING TREE!!!
http://www.msopr.com/client-roster/meat-loaf-to-perform-on-tonight-show-with-jay-leno-wednesday-march-14-in-conjunction-with-release-of-new-sonylegacy-cd-hell-in-a-handbasket/
The Giving Tree is an excellent choice! Looking forward to seeing the performance.
And thanks for the update, Vicki.
The Giving Tree is an excellent choice! Looking forward to seeing the performance.
And thanks for the update, Vicki.
I second that :-) You're welcome :))
Tri.somethin
08 Mar 2012, 19:14
Finally...A reason to watch Leno. :) Break a leg, Meat!
Finally...A reason to watch Leno. :) Break a leg, Meat!
Be careful with what you wish for :p
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Be careful with what you wish for :p
http://media.mlxxfc.net/bal.jpg
Exactly :lol:
Thanks, Vicki. :)
J. xo
You're very welcome Jeanie :-)
The Giving Tree is a good choice. I'm curious about what it will sound like on TV.
olblueeyes
10 Mar 2012, 15:27
The Giving Tree is a good choice. I'm curious about what it will sound like on TV.
I agree, very good choice. I'm predicting it will be a great performance and I think a song like that will surprise a few folks.
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I'm predicting it will be a great performance and I think a song like that will surprise a few folks.
I agree. The song sounds bluesy which I like a lot. Boneyard did, too, but The Giving Tree has a way more interesting arrangement that suits the lyrics very well.
The Giving Tree is a good choice. I'm curious about what it will sound like on TV.
I agree ... I'm really looking forward to it :-)
robgomm
10 Mar 2012, 18:14
The Giving Tree is a good choice. I'm curious about what it will sound like on TV.
Yeah it should be very interesting. Only 4 days!
Tri.somethin
12 Mar 2012, 19:51
Be careful with what you wish for :p
http://media.mlxxfc.net/bal.jpg
O_o Totally not what I meant! XD
lorenzoduke
14 Mar 2012, 23:25
Really looking forward to checking this out tomorrow morning. 'Giving Tree' is a great song and I can already imagine it'll bring out the best in 'Meat the performer'. :)
Tri.somethin
15 Mar 2012, 05:34
Meat is amazing. Sounds GREAT
Tri.somethin
15 Mar 2012, 05:37
Got a little out of time during giving tree, but overall he was great. Sounded really good.
ZodiacManzo
15 Mar 2012, 05:41
they cut the beginning off where i was :(
Excellent job Meat !!!
I posted a video of his performance on my personal website ... here's the link if you want to check it out :
http://home.comcast.net/~meatvideos/Leno.mp4
Sorry for the error "blip" in the middle ... my DVR cut off while I was recording it, and
I didn't realize the error message also recorded on this clip that I made on my computer :oops:
I posted a video of his performance on my personal website ... here's the link if you want to check it out :
Haha, Thanks for the clip Vicki! Great stuff :D
mtaylor315
15 Mar 2012, 07:40
Excellent job Meat !!!
I posted a video of his performance on my personal website ... here's the link if you want to check it out :
http://home.comcast.net/~meatvideos/Leno.mp4
Sorry for the error "blip" in the middle ... my DVR cut off while I was recording it, and
I didn't realize the error message also recorded on this clip that I made on my computer :oops:
Thank you for posting that :-)
Great performance Meat - really enjoyed it! x
evil nickname
15 Mar 2012, 08:59
That wasn't bad at all. But, by the beard of Wodan, what happened to the band?
robgomm
15 Mar 2012, 09:11
Excellent job Meat !!!
I posted a video of his performance on my personal website ... here's the link if you want to check it out :
http://home.comcast.net/~meatvideos/Leno.mp4
Sorry for the error "blip" in the middle ... my DVR cut off while I was recording it, and
I didn't realize the error message also recorded on this clip that I made on my computer :oops:
Link doesn't work for me.
razorball2002
15 Mar 2012, 09:14
Link doesn't work for me.
for me neither :-) cannot open with windows media player
mtaylor315
15 Mar 2012, 09:18
Right click and click 'Save Link As' :-) x
Who were all the random people in the band? I haven't watched it yet so I can't say anything performance-wise, I've just seen pics taken by John on Facebook.
Thanks for sharing that Vicki, good to be able to see it here in the UK.
Not a bad performance at all from Mr Loaf, personally though I found it distracting wondering who on earth the "band" were - I love how familiar it is to watch Meat with Patti and Randy behind him, kinda odd without them :?
That wasn't bad at all. But, by the beard of Wodan, what happened to the band?
were they not there?
The NLE band was Meat Paul, John and Justin - no Patti, Randy, Dave, Danny or Ginny
samurai7
15 Mar 2012, 10:35
thanks for posting, but there's only sound on the right channel for some reason.
Evil One
15 Mar 2012, 10:38
I'm not overly impressed. :?
I thought that was great. Damn, why is he so inconsistent?! reminds me of my ten-pin bowling abilities....
robgomm
15 Mar 2012, 11:07
I enjoyed it but i'm annoyed they cut it so short, it seemed like a rushed time pressured performance to me. Also why didn't he just sing it the same as the album? People might now go and download that and wonder why it sounds different? He sung some bits higher and some lower etc? That's fine if you're on tour and you can experiment a bit and have fun with it but when you're trying to do it as a viable single on TV it should be sung the same. I'm not bothered personally but i'm just thinking of what other people will think. Maybe i'm just being silly. Tell me if I am.
My first reaction was:"where is THE whole band?"
thanks for posting, but there's only sound on the right channel for some reason.
I thought it was just my headphones but clearly not.
It doesn't matter to me really, I'm just glad that I was able to see the performance. :D
I hope Meat was as well pleased with the performance as I was !!! It was worth setting the alarm !!!
Thanks, Meat and thanks for HIAH ! Great stuff !!!
S ... xo
Evil One
15 Mar 2012, 13:29
I enjoyed it but i'm annoyed they cut it so short, it seemed like a rushed time pressured performance to me. Also why didn't he just sing it the same as the album? People might now go and download that and wonder why it sounds different? He sung some bits higher and some lower etc? That's fine if you're on tour and you can experiment a bit and have fun with it but when you're trying to do it as a viable single on TV it should be sung the same. I'm not bothered personally but i'm just thinking of what other people will think. Maybe i'm just being silly. Tell me if I am.I don't know what's going on but I find myself agreeing with Robgomm a bit too often these days! :lol:
First, Vicki Thanks for even taking the initiative to record the performance and post it for those who couldn't see it.
Secondly, I was so excited to see Meat perform...I knew my first viewing wouldn't be my last. So I watched it back 3 more times last night....slept on it....the watched it two more times before I even hit the internet (or drove to work). That performance has me dying to get to a live show. Meat's voice has strength and he looked amazing. I wasn't distracted by the absence of other band members because I was hanging on every syllable that Meat sang, watching him punctuate his delivery with his finger, and watching him rock to the beat. So what band? LOL. Also....I liked the back up vocals too. Meat made The Giving Tree come alive for me last night.....it was everything I was hoping for and more. Can we all remember that this is the first time this song is done live? As much as I loved this performance, if he performs this on tour with the complete NLE the performance will only get tighter from here. God I hope this tour talk is not just a press tease!
robgomm
15 Mar 2012, 14:39
First, Vicki Thanks for even taking the initiative to record the performance and post it for those who couldn't see it.
Secondly, I was so excited to see Meat perform...I knew my first viewing wouldn't be my last. So I watched it back 3 more times last night....slept on it....the watched it two more times before I even hit the internet (or drove to work). That performance has me dying to get to a live show. Meat's voice has strength and he looked amazing. I wasn't distracted by the absence of other band members because I was hanging on every syllable that Meat sang, watching him punctuate his delivery with his finger, and watching him rock to the beat. So what band? LOL. Also....I liked the back up vocals too. Meat made The Giving Tree come alive for me last night.....it was everything I was hoping for and more. Can we all remember that this is the first time this song is done live? As much as I loved this performance, if he performs this on tour with the complete NLE the performance will only get tighter from here. God I hope this tour talk is not just a press tease!
I liked it and I enjoyed but let's not go over the top about it okay? Meat went out of time and it felt rushed. I wish they had given him more time to do a complete unrushed performance. He did well considering he hates doing TV.
I wish they had given him more time
I wish he had more time, too. I sat watching the clock not believing that with only 3 minutes left to the show, Meat was coming on !!! Husband said the same was done to Garth Brooks. I guess when you're the "musical guest", that's the amount of time allotted. No matter, I was so happy to see and hear Meat.. It was a real treat !!!
Meat went out of time...
That's hardly a reason, we all know Meat goes out of time, he makes his own time. It's part of what makes Meat, Meat.
Maybe the fill ins struggled to keep up with this?
robgomm
15 Mar 2012, 15:01
That's hardly a reason, we all know Meat goes out of time, he makes his own time. It's part of what makes Meat, Meat.
Maybe the fill ins struggled to keep up with this?
I hate to disagree but I can count on one hand the number of times i've ever heard Meat go out of time. Yes he embellishes and ad libs and puts his own spin on things differently every time he performs a song but he doesn't go out of time hardly ever.
First, Vicki Thanks for even taking the initiative to record the performance and post it for those who couldn't see it.
Oh, yes... I second that ! ;) ... lol ... Thanks, Vickster ! ... xo
I hate to disagree but I can count on one hand the number of times i've ever heard Meat go out of time. Yes he embellishes and ad libs and puts his own spin on things differently every time he performs a song but he doesn't go out of time hardly ever.
Where was it Meat went out of time ? I didn't record it so have only seen it once. I'm sincere in asking ... If you tell me the spot, I'd like to watch a recording and see it ... What the heck... lol ... It's a good excuse for me to watch it again ... AND again ... ;) ... lol ... Serio, though, where ? Ta in advance ...
Sebastian.
15 Mar 2012, 15:08
I've just watched it, brilliant performance, really enjoyed it. Love Meat's guitar.
It was a fun television performance. The extras appear to be faces from The Tonight Show Band, but I could be wrong. As has been pointed out, it costs a lot of $$ to fly a band to perform one song. I thought the standard of this performance was right up there with the Wetten, Das..? performance a few weeks ago. I did not think Meat looked rushed at all. He did seem restrained, but I would not say rushed. This made me excited to see him live again.
** Need to add an additional thought here! I am amazed that the public standards commission did not raise a fuss at Meat Loaf's performance for his "69" sticker on his guitar. I know this sounds petty, but I have seen them scowl at less before.
I thought the standard of this performance was right up there with the Wetten, Das..? performance a few weeks ago. I did not think Meat looked rushed at all. He did seem restrained, but I would not say rushed. This made me excited to see him live again.
Oh definately.
I hope he performs The Giving Tree on tour because I really enjoyed this performance.
Smithie
15 Mar 2012, 15:42
Not a bad performance at all from Mr Loaf, personally though I found it distracting wondering who on earth the "band" were - I love how familiar it is to watch Meat with Patti and Randy behind him, kinda odd without them :?
I thought the same thing. Meat did a good job. But I missed the rest of the NLE, especially Patti. She always compliments Meat perfectly.
First, Vicki Thanks for even taking the initiative to record the performance and post it for those who couldn't see it.
Secondly, I was so excited to see Meat perform...I knew my first viewing wouldn't be my last. So I watched it back 3 more times last night....slept on it....the watched it two more times before I even hit the internet (or drove to work). That performance has me dying to get to a live show. Meat's voice has strength and he looked amazing. I wasn't distracted by the absence of other band members because I was hanging on every syllable that Meat sang, watching him punctuate his delivery with his finger, and watching him rock to the beat. So what band? LOL. Also....I liked the back up vocals too. Meat made The Giving Tree come alive for me last night.....it was everything I was hoping for and more. Can we all remember that this is the first time this song is done live? As much as I loved this performance, if he performs this on tour with the complete NLE the performance will only get tighter from here. God I hope this tour talk is not just a press tease!
CHSIBM .. and you're welcome :-)
I liked it and I enjoyed but let's not go over the top about it okay? Meat went out of time and it felt rushed. I wish they had given him more time to do a complete unrushed performance. He did well considering he hates doing TV.
It didn't seem rushed to me, and I couldn't see where he went out of time either :shrug:
I wish he had more time, too. I sat watching the clock not believing that with only 3 minutes left to the show, Meat was coming on !!! Husband said the same was done to Garth Brooks. I guess when you're the "musical guest", that's the amount of time allotted. No matter, I was so happy to see and hear Meat.. It was a real treat !!!
Exactly !!
Oh, yes... I second that ! ;) ... lol ... Thanks, Vickster ! ... xo
You're welcome :-)
It was a fun television performance. The extras appear to be faces from The Tonight Show Band, but I could be wrong. As has been pointed out, it costs a lot of $$ to fly a band to perform one song. I thought the standard of this performance was right up there with the Wetten, Das..? performance a few weeks ago. I did not think Meat looked rushed at all. He did seem restrained, but I would not say rushed. This made me excited to see him live again.
:up:
Oh definately.
I hope he performs The Giving Tree on tour because I really enjoyed this performance.
I second that :-)
Thanks for sharing that Vicki, good to be able to see it here in the UK.
Not a bad performance at all from Mr Loaf, personally though I found it distracting wondering who on earth the "band" were - I love how familiar it is to watch Meat with Patti and Randy behind him, kinda odd without them :?
You're welcome Lucy :-)
unbekannt
15 Mar 2012, 16:18
I thought the same thing. Meat did a good job. But I missed the rest of the NLE, especially Patti. She always compliments Meat perfectly.
:up:
Without Patti it's not the same, she was missed badly. At least in my humble opinion…
I hate to disagree but I can count on one hand the number of times i've ever heard Meat go out of time. Yes he embellishes and ad libs and puts his own spin on things differently every time he performs a song but he doesn't go out of time hardly ever.
Disagree all you want, means little to me ;) pretty sure he's said it him self that he doesn't always stay in time... oh yes, when he was posting on here some where about lip syncing.
Where was it Meat went out of time ? I didn't record it so have only seen it once. I'm sincere in asking ... If you tell me the spot, I'd like to watch a recording and see it ... What the heck... lol ... It's a good excuse for me to watch it again ... AND again ... ;) ... lol ... Serio, though, where ? Ta in advance ...
No idea, didn't notice as I was too busy 1. Enjoying it & 2. Wondering who the other people were & 3. Thinking I liked Meat's guitar & I would love a close look at it.
It was a fun television performance. The extras appear to be faces from The Tonight Show Band, but I could be wrong. As has been pointed out, it costs a lot of $$ to fly a band to perform one song. Ah yeah, that makes sense
I thought the standard of this performance was right up there with the Wetten, Das..? performance a few weeks ago. I did not think Meat looked rushed at all.
Agreed on all counts there
I liked it and I enjoyed but let's not go over the top about it okay? Meat went out of time and it felt rushed. I wish they had given him more time to do a complete unrushed performance. He did well considering he hates doing TV.
I am excited.....which is different than over the top. Anyway, lemme' ask you this.....WHEN does MEAT ever have ENOUGH time? I think he did a great job with the time alotted.
2ndly....the guitar is a race car with the 69 on the roof. I'm thinking he got away with that one ;) .
glamourgirl
15 Mar 2012, 17:03
The extras appear to be faces from The Tonight Show Band, but I could be wrong. As has been pointed out, it costs a lot of $$ to fly a band to perform one song.
But the band was flown to Germany for just one show. Dave doesn't perform on many of the tv performances, but I was surprised that Patti, Randy and Danny were not there. They would have kicked the song up a notch. It didn't have the energy of the Neverland Express, but I thought Meat did a nice job.
:up:
Without Patti it's not the same, she was missed badly. At least in my humble opinion…
I really missed her too.
robgomm
15 Mar 2012, 17:06
Where was it Meat went out of time ? I didn't record it so have only seen it once. I'm sincere in asking ... If you tell me the spot, I'd like to watch a recording and see it ... What the heck... lol ... It's a good excuse for me to watch it again ... AND again ... ;) ... lol ... Serio, though, where ? Ta in advance ...
At 1:48ish he misses a beat for the next chorus of 'when that giving tree stops giving'. He then stays one beat behind until 2:10ish when the choir get him back on time. Surprised no one else has spotted it.
robgomm
15 Mar 2012, 17:08
I am excited.....which is different than over the top. Anyway, lemme' ask you this.....WHEN does MEAT ever have ENOUGH time? I think he did a great job with the time alotted.
2ndly....the guitar is a race car with the 69 on the roof. I'm thinking he got away with that one ;) .
It probably just sounded rushed to me because it was shortened. I still think Meat did a good job.
I hope Meat was as well pleased with the performance as I was !!! It was worth setting the alarm !!!
Thanks, Meat and thanks for HIAH ! Great stuff !!!
S ... xo
Finally managed to see it .. and agree :D Poor sod .. seems he's damned when he does, damned when he doesn't .. but given they have to work in a tight time frame, and Meat doesn't simply do what he does on an album live .. (that's what a live Meat performance is all about) I didn't think he was out of time, and anyway I agree with Mel .. he does what HE does .. That's Meat Loaf .. real. live and great :D
Agreed Sue ... great stuff! And thanks a lot Vicki for posting it.
Caryl
At 1:48ish he misses a beat for the next chorus of 'when that giving tree stops giving'. He then stays one beat behind until 2:10ish when the choir get him back on time. Surprised no one else has spotted it.
:lol:
stretch37
15 Mar 2012, 17:39
At 1:48ish he misses a beat for the next chorus of 'when that giving tree stops giving'. He then stays one beat behind until 2:10ish when the choir get him back on time. Surprised no one else has spotted it.
Yeah he did a good job of covering it up. I'm sure he knew he was off beat.
I'm wondering why they didn't do something more similar to the wetten dass performance. Meat and Patti had effects on their voices and it sounded ~~~~ing awesome, and then Meat used some voice overs for the chorus of all of me. I think that while a Meat Loaf performance is gonna be different than the single, its important for the TV single performances to sound like the Wetten Dass version of All of Me, similar to the album version and done extremely professionally.
Having said that, Meat sounds good. The performance is stronger than all his los angeloser ones in 2010, and I'd say on par with the last Leno performance. Meat didn't get "off beat". What happened was the band didn't follow him when he changed the song. Usually when they play live, if Meat's timing changes, so does theirs automatically.
The important thing to take away from this is that Meat's voice sounds strong, and the live version of the giving tree sounds really good, I'm sure it will be even better on tour.
robgomm
15 Mar 2012, 18:41
Yeah he did a good job of covering it up. I'm sure he knew he was off beat.
I'm wondering why they didn't do something more similar to the wetten dass performance. Meat and Patti had effects on their voices and it sounded ~~~~ing awesome, and then Meat used some voice overs for the chorus of all of me. I think that while a Meat Loaf performance is gonna be different than the single, its important for the TV single performances to sound like the Wetten Dass version of All of Me, similar to the album version and done extremely professionally.
Having said that, Meat sounds good. The performance is stronger than all his los angeloser ones in 2010, and I'd say on par with the last Leno performance. Meat didn't get "off beat". What happened was the band didn't follow him when he changed the song. Usually when they play live, if Meat's timing changes, so does theirs automatically.
The important thing to take away from this is that Meat's voice sounds strong, and the live version of the giving tree sounds really good, I'm sure it will be even better on tour.
That's a good point why didn't the band compensate? Was it a backing track do you think?
robgomm
15 Mar 2012, 18:50
Look, I have said that Meat did a good job, but he did go off time for a part of the song which spoiled it a bit for me. I'm sure Meat would have been a bit disappointed that happened too. You all know I support Meat 100%, but i'm not gonna say something was perfect when it wasn't. I love the man but I am not blinded by that love.
renegadeangel
15 Mar 2012, 19:01
I enjoyed it but i'm annoyed they cut it so short, it seemed like a rushed time pressured performance to me. Also why didn't he just sing it the same as the album? People might now go and download that and wonder why it sounds different? He sung some bits higher and some lower etc? That's fine if you're on tour and you can experiment a bit and have fun with it but when you're trying to do it as a viable single on TV it should be sung the same. I'm not bothered personally but i'm just thinking of what other people will think. Maybe i'm just being silly. Tell me if I am.
IF you want it to sound like the album, then listen to the album. Live is always different and thats the beauty of a live performance. I doubt people will remember the song on the tonight show to the point where they'll compare it to the album and be disappointed. The idea of being on national TV is to promote Meat.
stretch37
15 Mar 2012, 19:09
IF you want it to sound like the album, then listen to the album. Live is always different and thats the beauty of a live performance. I doubt people will remember the song on the tonight show to the point where they'll compare it to the album and be disappointed. The idea of being on national TV is to promote Meat.
I think robgomm is just saying it was a little too different from the album, and that the timing issue turned him off from the performance. I don't blame him, It did for me too. Although Meat did a damn good job covering it up. I kept replaying the part of the song before the timing went off and I think he nailed the beginning.
Look, I have said that Meat did a good job, but he did go off time for a part of the song which spoiled it a bit for me. I'm sure Meat would have been a bit disappointed that happened too. You all know I support Meat 100%, but i'm not gonna say something was perfect when it wasn't. I love the man but I am not blinded by that love.
I had really high hopes for it too and they weren't fulfilled. I'm not mad at Meat, or anyone except myself for having those high hopes. I think Meat did well, and I think he's still got the fire in his belly, but in the end I have nobody to blame but myself for how I feel.
loaferman61
15 Mar 2012, 19:14
Look, I have said that Meat did a good job, but he did go off time for a part of the song which spoiled it a bit for me. I'm sure Meat would have been a bit disappointed that happened too. You all know I support Meat 100%, but i'm not gonna say something was perfect when it wasn't. I love the man but I am not blinded by that love.
He does that a bit at times. I'm sure it was tough for the performer side of him to be restrained by the tight time format. It has to be hard to remember all the places that were shortened. I was concerned that his voice was on the edge of cracking (for lack of a better term) a couple of times but he pulled it back on track.
stretch37
15 Mar 2012, 19:18
He does that a bit at times. I'm sure it was tough for the performer side of him to be restrained by the tight time format. It has to be hard to remember all the places that were shortened. I was concerned that his voice was on the edge of cracking (for lack of a better term) a couple of times but he pulled it back on track.
Yeah it must have been tough on all counts. I'm just happy to see Meat on TV and singing, I'm thankful for that.
robgomm
15 Mar 2012, 19:18
Most of the song was a great performance.
The fact he was off beat on that verse ruined it a lot for me. In other parts he was great though.
Finally managed to see it .. and agree :D Poor sod .. seems he's damned when he does, damned when he doesn't .. but given they have to work in a tight time frame, and Meat doesn't simply do what he does on an album live .. (that's what a live Meat performance is all about) I didn't think he was out of time, and anyway I agree with Mel .. he does what HE does .. That's Meat Loaf .. real. live and great :D
Agreed Sue ... great stuff! And thanks a lot Vicki for posting it.
Caryl
:up: You're welcome Caryl :-)
snider22
15 Mar 2012, 19:53
I had really high hopes for it too and they weren't fulfilled. I'm not mad at Meat, or anyone except myself for having those high hopes. I think Meat did well, and I think he's still got the fire in his belly, but in the end I have nobody to blame but myself for how I feel.
I agree with this quite a bit. I think after Weetan Daas my hopes may have been to high. vocally he did quite well. But second verse was all over the place and it kinda ruined it for me. If I was hearing the song for the first time I don't think it would have bothered me, but having heard the song, it did bother me. Great vocals just needed better timing
shell120978
15 Mar 2012, 19:58
Does anyone know if this will be available to watch on you tube or anywhere, I didn't get to see it :(
stretch37
15 Mar 2012, 20:00
I agree with this quite a bit. I think after Weetan Daas my hopes may have been to high. vocally he did quite well. But second verse was all over the place and it kinda ruined it for me. If I was hearing the song for the first time I don't think it would have bothered me, but having heard the song, it did bother me. Great vocals just needed better timing
yeah well said.
Does anyone know if this will be available to watch on you tube or anywhere, I didn't get to see it :(
Maybe this will help :-)
Excellent job Meat !!!
I posted a video of his performance on my personal website ... here's the link if you want to check it out :
http://home.comcast.net/~meatvideos/Leno.mp4
Sorry for the error "blip" in the middle ... my DVR cut off while I was recording it, and
I didn't realize the error message also recorded on this clip that I made on my computer :oops:
Fire Ball
15 Mar 2012, 23:26
At 1:48ish he misses a beat for the next chorus of 'when that giving tree stops giving'. He then stays one beat behind until 2:10ish when the choir get him back on time. Surprised no one else has spotted it.
I said I wasn't coming back here , But listen to the snare I am right with it.
I was not out of time between 1:48 and 2:10 If I was behind it was at
1:44 and was in right with snare at 1:48 . It was the 1st time I had every sung that song live. I did it once at 1 pm and the show 4:40. I sing Like I feel . The Choir hit "the high Liv'in Like I did before on 1 and so did i "My living was a little buried, then the freeze. The second verse I sang the 1st 3 lines then waited the 2 count for the next 3. It was a choice . 2nd verse I can sing every line together as long as there is a 2beat wait between one of them. I do not stay one beat behind . I am right with the snare. I did a really good TV performance and you are going to nick pick because because I may have been off 2 snare beats. Robb you are big fan and I love you but this why I don't come here Maybe I was 4 beats behind at one point "SO WHAT"
Over all, and people can't watch because Patti's not there . She had shows in Europe. Ricky Minors band is great ! The singers were great. Why can't you just enjoy and not count 4 beats . I was very happy with that show. I am still very weak after spending 4 days in a London Hospital , with severe food poisoning,
I more minute ,the audience on Loose women would had have something to really talk about. I can not deal with this kind off nit picking. Overall I thought it was great mix not as good as Germany. That was a stereo backing Track, easier to mix that a live band. I want be back , Thought I would give it one more shot ... but got bullets in my ass , I'm trying to get my confidence back up ... not have it torn down .. So go ahead and tear me down .. Now ,just stop calling it the Meat Loaf UK fan club, because it is not.
This time I will not be back for sure .
lorenzoduke
15 Mar 2012, 23:27
Really strong performance. Fun, spirited and he sold it. Yeah, timing issues on the second chorus lead-in, but the choir soon had him back on track. Thought he did a great job though. The other half was impressed and she's less of a fan than I am.
mindnick1
15 Mar 2012, 23:39
Who in the hell sits there with a stopwatch trying to find a singer who is off a beat? for a period of about 20 seconds it was pointed out....its live for god sake, just enjoy it whilst you have it and stop nitpicking....
Its not my favorite song or album but Meat sounded great, congrats
Posted before i read Meats by the way
Keep on Rockin
Just spotted the ENGL logo on Meat Loaf's guitar. One of their products is named Fireball. Coincidence? :-)
lorenzoduke
15 Mar 2012, 23:47
Just spotted the ENGL logo on Meat Loaf's guitar. One of their products is named Fireball. Coincidence? :-)
My eyes were immediately drawn to the 69 sticker.... :oops:
I see what you mean though (just googled ENGL Fireball). I'd always assumed in Meat's case it was maybe an old baseball/softball nickname. Have we ever actually had the story behind it?
I sing Like I feel .
That's what makes you the performer you are, it's why, live, you are the best, it's what makes your performances full of genuine passion and feeling.
Many of us appreciate that. Not because we're "blinded by love", or see you as "a God" or any of the other daft comments so often made. We simply love to see you perform live because it is REAL, full of passion and in the moment.
Shame all of us have to reap what others sow :( The day you ask me to critique your performance with a magnifying glass and a stopwatch is the day I'll say to you that until I can stand up on a stage and give half the performance you do, my feedback and criticism would be as useful as a chocolate bicycle in a heatwave ;)
Caryl
Tri.somethin
16 Mar 2012, 00:35
I said I wasn't coming back here , But listen to the snare I am right with it.
I was not out of time between 1:48 and 2:10 If I was behind it was at
1:44 and was in right with snare at 1:48 . It was the 1st time I had every sung that song live. I did it once at 1 pm and the show 4:40. I sing Like I feel . The Choir hit "the high Liv'in Like I did before on 1 and so did i "My living was a little buried, then the freeze. The second verse I sang the 1st 3 lines then waited the 2 count for the next 3. It was a choice . 2nd verse I can sing every line together as long as there is a 2beat wait between one of them. I do not stay one beat behind . I am right with the snare. I did a really good TV performance and you are going to nick pick because because I may have been off 2 snare beats. Robb you are big fan and I love you but this why I don't come here Maybe I was 4 beats behind at one point "SO WHAT"
Over all, and people can't watch because Patti's not there . She had shows in Europe. Ricky Minors band is great ! The singers were great. Why can't you just enjoy and not count 4 beats . I was very happy with that show. I am still very weak after spending 4 days in a London Hospital , with severe food poisoning,
I more minute ,the audience on Loose women would had have something to really talk about. I can not deal with this kind off nit picking. Overall I thought it was great mix not as good as Germany. That was a stereo backing Track, easier to mix that a live band. I want be back , Thought I would give it one more shot ... but got bullets in my ass , I'm trying to get my confidence back up ... not have it torn down .. So go ahead and tear me down .. Now ,just stop calling it the Meat Loaf UK fan club, because it is not.
This time I will not be back for sure .
We all love you Meat. Please reconsider coming back. :'(
Now look at what you have done.Nitpicking at it's finest. Time to take out the MLFC out of the MLUKFC. The number 1 reason we come here now gone. Sad!
Hey Meat you were awesome on Leno and i hate it some people here only pick on you never can say a good word to you that makes me angry. Honestly i enjoyed every second of your performance. But anyway on that picking i understand you are upset even angry about that... If i were you i would do the same thing !!!! I respect you're desicion to never come back here. I'll always follow you whatever you do and the choices you make. Some here have no respect for you and the hard work you do. Yours truly, a dedicated and loyal fan for life. Love ya ! XXX
Out of respect for you're decision i won't come back here either. You are absolutely right Fireball :( You're performance was amazing on Leno i enjoyed every second of it !! I don't think this is the right place for truly and committed Meat Loaf fans anymore... :(((
stay or go i will alway love you and your music but please stay with us we all dont agree with what was said
That's what makes you the performer you are, it's why, live, you are the best, it's what makes your performances full of genuine passion and feeling.
Many of us appreciate that. Not because we're "blinded by love", or see you as "a God" or any of the other daft comments so often made. We simply love to see you perform live because it is REAL, full of passion and in the moment.
Shame all of us have to reap what others sow :( The day you ask me to critique your performance with a magnifying glass and a stopwatch is the day I'll say to you that until I can stand up on a stage and give half the performance you do, my feedback and criticism would be as useful as a chocolate bicycle in a heatwave ;)
Caryl
Very well said Caryl, thank you.
Meat ... I'm truly sorry to see you leave, but in all honesty I don't blame you for feeling the way you do :(( I loved your performance on Leno ... and I'm glad that you were happy with it too. HIAHB is an amazing CD, and my hope is that your performance on the show last night helped you and Paul both get the support that it truly deserves. Good luck with the rest of your promotional appearances, and in my heart I hope you feel completely well soon.
To everybody here ... After I posted the video that started all of this, I decided that I wasn't going to post anything else. So this is it for me. I posted the radio interview, but from now on, I'm only posting news and videos on FB or I'm keeping them to myself.
stretch37
16 Mar 2012, 02:03
I'm trying to get my confidence back up ... not have it torn down
I kind of wondered, but I was hoping that wasn't the case. I understand how you feel Meat, I've had a really hard year and I'm trying to get my own back up as well. I haven't gotten there yet, but I'm working hard to get there. I'm really effected by what others say....Very sensitive, and that is why I've always loved your art and what you bring to the table. Your songs help me overcome my sensitivity and to feel good.
It doesn't help that the AFL keep bringing up stupid stuff about the half time performance, and I'm sure you've read all that, and I've heard you in the past few days talking about the same album reviews i've read that made me want to tear their throat out, so I'm sure it was that much worse for you since they're talking about your hard work.
People like you and I who are very conscious of our own choices, and as much as we don't want to be, very effected by other people's judgement of us.....Well, it becomes hard to have confidence if you have way too much judgement coming your way. Especially when you know they're mis-informed.
There are two things that I need to learn, that I'm sure all sensitive types need to learn. 1) Stop caring about what others think and 2) Be less hard on yourself. Of course, when my family tells me that, I just get mad....The only reason I accomplish what I accomplish is because I'm hard on myself and I push myself.
So I'm always left with the same question....How do I stop giving a ~~~~ about what others think and just do what know is right? It must be 100% harder because you have tons of people you don't even know judging you. But I think the same rule applies. Don't give a shit about anyone else, don't let them hurt you they don't deserve that power. Do what you know is right and do it because you want that.
Of course feedback from others is important too, but the ones who truly matter to you will recognize the effort you put into things, and trust me when I say that Its more than just the effort you put into life that keeps me a fan. Your singing voice is beautiful, I love it now way more than when you were younger because of your power, especially when you hit those higher notes at the end of bat, or any song, people might complain about "yelling" but it is not, its amazing. And those powerhouse parts of your songs that are full of emotion are what make you my favorite artist. You can still do that, I saw you 4 times in 2011 and you were perfect, like a caged animal on stage and the emotion of watching you perform was immense. Heard tons of people in their 20's and 30's at Chinook Winds Casino all saying how amazing you were and how you were better than the last time they saw you.
We all have to work together on these forums to spread that positive friendship and energy, its what i've been saying for the last few years but the mods seem to feel that free speech is the way to go. Well I think we should be here to be here for you Meat, and hopefully others will jump on that bandwagon (I know several people already are on it:)).
And Like I will push my damndest to graduate this June and fight my little fight, you and I alike need to feel good about our work ethic, and stop giving two shits about *anybody* who wants to judge that. I've been forgetting lately that they do not deserve the power to make me feel terrible, or down. I know I push myself harder than most, I never have fun in the normal sense, I get awesomeness out accomplishing stuff - passing school, taking on my own clients, getting into better shape, etc. And I'm going at a good pace. You have 40 years on me and of all the bootlegs from the 2010/2011 shows I saw, I couldn't do what you do on stage. You work ethic is therefore unmet by most, because most people at your age can barely walk up a flight of stairs. So that's even more reason to feel good!!!
Love you as always, and congratulations on Hell in a Handbasket, its my favorite album of yours yet. If your in the USA this summer i'll drive as far as my girlfriend lets me to see you! ;)
matt
Have we ever actually had the story behind it?
:yep:
AndrewG
16 Mar 2012, 02:34
I thought that was pretty ~~~~ing awesome. Well done Meat.
Great backing band setup. I thought it was good.
It's a decent song, performed really well by a legend. Personally I can't see how you can fault it whatsoever.
Thanks for posting the video Vicki!
At 1:48ish he misses a beat for the next chorus of 'when that giving tree stops giving'. He then stays one beat behind until 2:10ish when the choir get him back on time. Surprised no one else has spotted it. Not everyone wants to ba hero spotting every little possible mistake.
Finally managed to see it .. and agree :D Poor sod .. seems he's damned when he does, damned when he doesn't .. Yup
Look, I have said that Meat did a good job, but he did go off time for a part of the song which spoiled it a bit for me. I'm sure Meat would have been a bit disappointed that happened too. You all know I support Meat 100%, but i'm not gonna say something was perfect when it wasn't. I love the man but I am not blinded by that love.
A few seconds spoiled it for you? And in reply to this, I'm sure you've seen my facbook post, amazingly was written well before I saw Meat's post here, and crazily hits the same points. I'm not reposting that here, as I cannot be bothered copying word for word from my phone.
IF you want it to sound like the album, then listen to the album. Live is always different and thats the beauty of a live performance.. Very true, if I have a studio album with some live tracks, I always skip to the live tracks these days. My live CD from the HCTB release hasn't left my car
The idea of being on national TV is to promote Meat.:yep: Who'd have thunk it hey?
This time I will not be back for sure . Now see this Rob, this is what spoils things for me. Not some silly few seconds where he may have been out of time for just a beat, but really he wasn't.
That's what makes you the performer you are, it's why, live, you are the best, it's what makes your performances full of genuine passion and feeling.
Many of us appreciate that. Not because we're "blinded by love", or see you as "a God" or any of the other daft comments so often made. We simply love to see you perform live because it is REAL, full of passion and in the moment.
Shame all of us have to reap what others sow :( The day you ask me to critique your performance with a magnifying glass and a stopwatch is the day I'll say to you that until I can stand up on a stage and give half the performance you do, my feedback and criticism would be as useful as a chocolate bicycle in a heatwave ;)
Caryl
Caryl, all I can say is that you've hit the nail right on the head there.
Meat, I'm sorry you feel you need to stay away from here, I for one will miss having you around, seems some people around here don't care either way. :roll:
What ever happened to the good ole saying..."If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say ANYTHING at all!!
That is how I raise my kids and THAT is how fans should act!!
Simple as THAT.
I stayed up late to watch the show, so excited just to see/hear a performance from my new favorite CD, and had some laughs with friends on FB/TEAMLOAF during the commercials!! I thought it was great, and am sad to see Meat's feelings were hurt on here. Sadly, we will miss his posts and hope he reconsiders, since not all of his fans compare a performance with a stop watch.
Love you Meat..YOU have, and continue to make a difference in my LIFE, "for THAT...I THANK-YOU!".
Kar
I'm not reposting that here, as I cannot be bothered copying word for word from my phone.
I've changed my mind:
I'm not blinded, and I'm offended at the assumption. I don't see the need to crucify him for every single freaking mistake. I just enjoy it. Humans make mistakes and pretty sure he's human isn’t he? I have no knowledge of the music business, I have no need to pick things to shit. So you carry on thinking I’m “blinded” and I’ll carry on thinking most of Meat’s fans just love to bring the man straight down should he have the audacity to get back on his feet. I’m sick to death of seeing it
renegadeangel
16 Mar 2012, 03:08
I said I wasn't coming back here , But listen to the snare I am right with it.
I was not out of time between 1:48 and 2:10 If I was behind it was at
1:44 and was in right with snare at 1:48 . It was the 1st time I had every sung that song live. I did it once at 1 pm and the show 4:40. I sing Like I feel . The Choir hit "the high Liv'in Like I did before on 1 and so did i "My living was a little buried, then the freeze. The second verse I sang the 1st 3 lines then waited the 2 count for the next 3. It was a choice . 2nd verse I can sing every line together as long as there is a 2beat wait between one of them. I do not stay one beat behind . I am right with the snare. I did a really good TV performance and you are going to nick pick because because I may have been off 2 snare beats. Robb you are big fan and I love you but this why I don't come here Maybe I was 4 beats behind at one point "SO WHAT"
Over all, and people can't watch because Patti's not there . She had shows in Europe. Ricky Minors band is great ! The singers were great. Why can't you just enjoy and not count 4 beats . I was very happy with that show. I am still very weak after spending 4 days in a London Hospital , with severe food poisoning,
I more minute ,the audience on Loose women would had have something to really talk about. I can not deal with this kind off nit picking. Overall I thought it was great mix not as good as Germany. That was a stereo backing Track, easier to mix that a live band. I want be back , Thought I would give it one more shot ... but got bullets in my ass , I'm trying to get my confidence back up ... not have it torn down .. So go ahead and tear me down .. Now ,just stop calling it the Meat Loaf UK fan club, because it is not.
This time I will not be back for sure .
I don't get the nitpicking either. It was a great performance and I enjoyed it. You came out and you did the job your supposed to, a great performance. I watched the whole thing and couldn't be bothered with who was or wasn't there and I certainly didn't spend anytime with a stopwatch later on breaking it down.
Your call whether you post here or not. I like hearing your take on things so I would definitely miss your posts. Really can't blame you though one way or the other. Looking forward to your concerts this summer...
I thought that was pretty ~~~~ing awesome. Well done Meat.
Great backing band setup. I thought it was good.
It's a decent song, performed really well by a legend. Personally I can't see how you can fault it whatsoever.
Thanks for posting the video Vicki!
You're very welcome Andrew .... I'm so glad you enjoyed it :-)
What ever happened to the good ole saying..."If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say ANYTHING at all!!
That is how I raise my kids and THAT is how fans should act!!
Simple as THAT.
I stayed up late to watch the show, so excited just to see/hear a performance from my new favorite CD, and had some laughs with friends on FB/TEAMLOAF during the commercials!! I thought it was great, and am sad to see Meat's feelings were hurt on here. Sadly, we will miss his posts and hope he reconsiders, since not all of his fans compare a performance with a stop watch.
Love you Meat..YOU have, and continue to make a difference in my LIFE, "for THAT...I THANK-YOU!".
Kar
CHSIB Kar !
You summed it up perfectly Mel !
Quote:
I'm not blinded, and I'm offended at the assumption. I don't see the need to crucify him for every single freaking mistake. I just enjoy it. Humans make mistakes and pretty sure he's human isn’t he? I have no knowledge of the music business, I have no need to pick things to shit. So you carry on thinking I’m “blinded” and I’ll carry on thinking most of Meat’s fans just love to bring the man straight down should he have the audacity to get back on his feet. I’m sick to death of seeing it
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Mr. Happy
16 Mar 2012, 06:29
I know the chances of Meat himself seeing this is sort of slim, let alone earning a reply, but oh well. This is directed directly at him anyway.
I really don't understand you take comments like Rob's so personally. Even in the past, you've always seemed to focus on the negative rather than the positive (when there is a MORE than plentiful amount of the latter). No one even said that 'it's unwatchable because Patti isn't there', they were just wondering WHY she wasn't. I understand you're trying to build your confidence back up, and that's MORE than fair enough, but the fact remains that you're MEAT LOAF.
You are one of the most famous performers who has EVER lived.
You are renowned as rock GOD throughout the entire world.
You have been a household name for thirty odd years.
You released the 3rd or 4th best selling album of ALL TIME.
So why are you taking comments such as this to heart? You're taking offence to your character over something like this. So maybe one anonymous person on the internet pointed out that one of your performances wasn't flawless. You still have DECADES of awesomeness behind you and a career that most artists would kill to have. It really amounts to shit what other people may think or say about you - are they one of the most famous performers ever? Are they a renowned rock god or a household name? Do they have one of the most successful albums in history tied to their name?
I'm not asking for a response. It just puzzles me that you can be hurt so deeply by something as petty as that when you have such a ridiculously successful career behind you to prove it wrong :S You're MEAT LOAF. Rock god extraordinaire! There are literally MILLIONS of people around the world who adore you and your work. Look at Wario, for example (I just finished watching his new cover of Los Angeloser) >.> You shouldn't be letting something like this ruin all of that for you :(
For what it's worth, if you do so happen to see this message, this particular fan thought the performance was brilliant :3 I thought it was better than the one a year or two back where you did Los Angeloser on the same show. The choir was a nice addition, and Justin is an absolutely amazing pianist. He destroyed that solo :D
I know this was sort of corny, for the most part. Ignore that >.>
EDIT: ALSO while I'm in the process of posting, thanks for the link, Vicki! It's not on YouTube yet, so I wouldn't have seen it otherwise :)
I said I wasn't coming back here , But listen to the snare I am right with it.
I was not out of time between 1:48 and 2:10 If I was behind it was at
1:44 and was in right with snare at 1:48 . It was the 1st time I had every sung that song live. I did it once at 1 pm and the show 4:40. I sing Like I feel . The Choir hit "the high Liv'in Like I did before on 1 and so did i "My living was a little buried, then the freeze. The second verse I sang the 1st 3 lines then waited the 2 count for the next 3. It was a choice . 2nd verse I can sing every line together as long as there is a 2beat wait between one of them. I do not stay one beat behind . I am right with the snare. I did a really good TV performance and you are going to nick pick because because I may have been off 2 snare beats. Robb you are big fan and I love you but this why I don't come here Maybe I was 4 beats behind at one point "SO WHAT"
Over all, and people can't watch because Patti's not there . She had shows in Europe. Ricky Minors band is great ! The singers were great. Why can't you just enjoy and not count 4 beats . I was very happy with that show. I am still very weak after spending 4 days in a London Hospital , with severe food poisoning,
I more minute ,the audience on Loose women would had have something to really talk about. I can not deal with this kind off nit picking. Overall I thought it was great mix not as good as Germany. That was a stereo backing Track, easier to mix that a live band. I want be back , Thought I would give it one more shot ... but got bullets in my ass , I'm trying to get my confidence back up ... not have it torn down .. So go ahead and tear me down .. Now ,just stop calling it the Meat Loaf UK fan club, because it is not.
This time I will not be back for sure .
You had every right to be happy with your performance and I know there are a lot of people that really enjoyed it. I thought that vocally, you were sounding fantastic and I'm really excited at the thought that there might be a tour where we can hear you sing these new songs.
I don't believe in looking for the negatives and I like to accept the performance for what it is. If that makes me 'blinded by love' or whatever some accuse people like us of, then you know what? I'm proud to be that way.
I've been a part of other fan forums and researched them in the past and it was very rare for an artist to post on them and I always felt we were fortunate to have you take the time to come and chat to us. I've also realised that for a forum that is supposed to be a FAN forum, it is very negative towards the artist it is dedicated to. I think it's a real shame that you has been driven away by negativity. I've always thought that it's part of a fan's job to give you support. Yes, I know that fans are entitled to have their opinions but as a decent human being, you should consider the feelings of others when you state that opinion. It's a courtesy that unfortunately hasn't been extended to everyone on that forum.
Meat, it has been a pleasure for most of us to have you as part of this community. I have learnt so much from you and I know you'll be missed.
Jenna
One thing
I don't think any of us can really blame Rob. The guy lives and breathes Meat Loaf! Is there anyone of us that have spend more time on the internet and forums to defend Meat Loaf the way Rob did? It's highly unfair to put this all on his plate!
Besides Rob wasn't too crittical in my eyes. As a REAL fan he just discussed the performance and told us, other fans what he liked or didn't like. That's not nitpicking, it's fan observing!!!
In fact I don't think I ever heard Rob say something negative about Meat. And although I only know him from this foprum, he seems a fine ladd who is a big fan! So please! don't put your anger about this to him. Despite Meat's emotions, Robb really deserves better.
That's my opinion though
allrevvedup
16 Mar 2012, 11:03
just saw the video, thanks Vicki, and thought the performance was ok (then again i'm not a fan of the song)
If people want to nit pick that's their choice,the same way as I can appreciate the hyperbole posting
robgomm
16 Mar 2012, 11:05
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen on this forum barr none.
First of all, although Meat won't see it because he's being daft imo, i reiterate AGAIN that I said Meat did a good job and a good TV performance, I said this from the start, so all you people that now hate me, i've done nothing wrong here and I said he did well.
Some of you seem to have forgotten that this is a fan FORUM, a place to discuss and air views and opinions, including YES criticism. I dared to air the completely honest opinion that a couple of things spoiled that performance for me a bit, but i still said it was good. If anything people are focusing on the criticism and not the good things that I said. What does that say about YOU people? It says to me that you're just as bad as the people you profess to be angry with because NOW you're trying to tear me down.
Meat, if you prefer to focus on the negative things people say instead of the positive things then maybe you shouldn't be here. This isn't a place of worship and never has been. Why can't I just enjoy it? I did! You did great vocally! But as I said this is a place where you can air your views good or bad. If you can't handle even the slightly negative then it's right that you don't come here, but I am surprised at you as I thought you were a stronger person than that. If you don't come back you will have lowered yourself in my view (not that that will mean anything to you i suspect).
@mindnick1, I didn't sit there with a stopwatch, someone asked me a question, I replied, I didn't even look for it before the question was asked. If I hadn't been asked I wouldn't have said.
@CarylB, Stop being holier than thou all the time, we all have a right to say what we feel, why? because we have spent hundreds and sometimes thousands of pounds supporting the man we love, aren't you honest with the people you love?
@DJLeen, I don't have a good word to say about him? Read my previous posts before spouting such rubbish, I have always been mostly in the positive camp, get your facts right.
@melon, Not everyone wants to be a hero? Again, I was asked a question and I answered. You're upset Meat won't come back? So am I but if he can't handle the slightest negative against him he shouldn't be here. It's a place for discussion. And I hardly think me mentioning him going out of time on one performance constitutes crucifying, a bit over the top don't you think? And I never mentioned you specifically were blinded by love, but there are those that are. You've got me an awful lot wrong here.
To sum up I think Mr. Happy puts it well. How can someone be so hurt by something as innocuous as saying it spoiled it a bit for me that he went off time but it was still a good TV performance? This whole thing has been so ridiculous and it's about time some people grew up and lived in the real world where you get constructive criticism in your job and your everyday lives.
To the mods, please can you read through this and clean it up if needed, thanks.
I really don't understand you take comments like Rob's so personally. Even in the past, you've always seemed to focus on the negative rather than the positive (when there is a MORE than plentiful amount of the latter). No one even said that 'it's unwatchable because Patti isn't there', they were just wondering WHY she wasn't.
I totally Agree on this with Mr Happy. And personally I am getting sick and tired of Mr. Loaf reacting like this every time someone puts a minor cristicism on the MLUKFC.
People just have opinions..... you know...... We don't have to like everything you do.
If people miss Patti and the band. Just be glad that we miss them because that means we think they are very special. No it is not all about you.......
I am out of here Bye
One thing
I don't think any of us can really blame Robb. The guy lives and breathes Meat Loaf! Is there anyone of us that have spend more time on the internet and forums to defend Meat Loaf the way Robb did? It's highly unfair to put this all on his plate!
Besides Robb wasn't too crittical in my eyes. As a REAL fan he just discussed the performance and told us, other fans what he liked or didn't like. That's not nitpicking, it's fan observing!!!
In fact I don't think I ever heard Robb say something negative about Meat. He is a fine young ladd who is a big fan! So please! don't put your anger about this to him. Despite Meat's emotions, Robb really deserves better.
That's my opinion though
I don't think it's just Rob that people are talking about and I know for certain that I'm not. There is a lot of negativity on this forum at the moment and it's from a group of several people and some of these people don't seem to have many positive things to say at all. It's those people that I'm sick of, they bring the atmosphere down and it's offputting.
It seems like there is an obsession at the moment for finding negatives and those who are happy to enjoy a something for what it is seem to be almost laughed at, like our opinions are less valid because we're just silly fangirls/boys who look at Meat as if he's a god. No, we don't like to focus too much on the negative but that is not necessarily because we think Meat's a god, because that is an unfair pressure to put on him but because we respect that no one likes to have their work picked apart and Meat is no exception.
I 100% agree with Mr. Happy. :up:
Don't tell me that the reason for another interesting thread being turned into a communication disaster is Patti Russo fans and robgomm of all people. This is absurd. The guy has always demanded "positivity", eagerly defended Meat Loaf's AFL performance on the web and started threads like this one: http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17808 All you can accuse robgomm of is that he has taken his obsession with "helping" the album to be a success a bit too seriously.
I don't understand this forum anymore. People are more busy criticizing the posts of one person instead of focusing on the performance itself or the fact that Vicki was kind enough to make a video of it available to us. Is this forum about Meat Loaf or about fighting with each other and blowing things out of proportion?
This forum has suffered more from people who behave as if they are its owners (and not R.) and who have always added fuel to the fire by trying to classify this community into "good" and "bad" fans than from people who who posted something others didn't agree with.
Following an artist should be fun, not a goddamn exhausting, stupid war! Unfortunately some people seem to regard it as the latter as you can easily recognize by the words used on some discussions on this forum: "enemy", "fight", "defend"... :roll:
This forum could be a great place for the fans as well as for Meat Loaf, if some people didn't regularly freak out over trifles and the rather small number of negative posts and focus more on Meat Loaf's work than their egos and their drive to identify "haters" and "enemies".
unbekannt
16 Mar 2012, 11:25
Meat, if you prefer to focus on the negative things people say instead of the positive things then maybe you shouldn't be here.
Couldn't have said it better. It's beginning to piss me off. There are so many positive things and comments, but he always focuses on the negative ones.
If people miss Patti and the band. Just be glad that we miss them because that means we think they are very special. No it is not all about you.......
Absolutely!
I'm really tired of this negativity. And so are you, Meat, I know… But probably just because you ignore all the positivity… Some of your fans are the most loyal fans I've ever met!
Criticism is not necessarily bad, it's just what people make of it.
I'm out of here, too.
Evil One
16 Mar 2012, 11:48
It's best that Meat doesn't come on here if he's just going to behave like a childish ~~~~ most of the time. As has been said repeatedly he'll ignore all the positive comments and focus in on anything even remotely negative, then sulk, throw his toys out of the pram and no doubt sit back and watch yet another row unfold. :roll:
on another note, is there a video out there that doesn't have a dvr bleep (sorry vicki ;) ) and is available outside the US?
Moonlight shadow
16 Mar 2012, 12:15
Really very good and strong perfomance!!!
Very powerful like I like to see you Meat.
And now, nobody must to ignore that this is the first time that Meat sing this song live.
This is a special version of the song to be aired on tv. Have you compaired with the studio version?
If you make it, you'll see the great job of Meat, the Chorus and the improvised band.
And of course, THANK YOU TOOOOOO MEAT!!! FOR MAKE US ENJOY OF YOUR MUSIC LIVE!!!
IT'S ALWAYS A PRESENT FOR US.
robgomm
16 Mar 2012, 13:20
One thing
I don't think any of us can really blame Rob. The guy lives and breathes Meat Loaf! Is there anyone of us that have spend more time on the internet and forums to defend Meat Loaf the way Rob did? It's highly unfair to put this all on his plate!
Besides Rob wasn't too crittical in my eyes. As a REAL fan he just discussed the performance and told us, other fans what he liked or didn't like. That's not nitpicking, it's fan observing!!!
In fact I don't think I ever heard Rob say something negative about Meat. And although I only know him from this foprum, he seems a fine ladd who is a big fan! So please! don't put your anger about this to him. Despite Meat's emotions, Robb really deserves better.
That's my opinion though
Thanks for your support Adje, you're one of the good guys.
I've defended Meat to the nth degree over AFL, I tried to promote Hang Cool and Like A Rose single for him, I tried to promote HIAHB and the singles. I've bought stuff from the charity because I love the work and and I love his jewellery. I'm very upset by all this and especially upset at Meat for singling me out. Someone asked a question and I answered it, that was all. I can't believe he singled me out for this upset. But then i'm nothing to him am I.
Being made a scapegoat makes me reconsider posting here at all in the future. Not that anyone would miss such a terrible fan. I might just visit for news in future.
TheDoode
16 Mar 2012, 13:29
Yeah, but Meat did something like you're an amazing fan and he loves you, right?? By posting that last line above you're doing exactly what it is that you're objecting to! Time to chalk this one down to experience man :cool:
renegadeangel
16 Mar 2012, 13:49
Thanks for your support Adje, you're one of the good guys.
I've defended Meat to the nth degree over AFL, I tried to promote Hang Cool and Like A Rose single for him, I tried to promote HIAHB and the singles. I've bought stuff from the charity because I love the work and and I love his jewellery. I'm very upset by all this and especially upset at Meat for singling me out. Someone asked a question and I answered it, that was all. I can't believe he singled me out for this upset. But then i'm nothing to him am I.
Being made a scapegoat makes me reconsider posting here at all in the future. Not that anyone would miss such a terrible fan. I might just visit for news in future.
To the point, this is a fan website where the artists posts off and on. I didn't think that you were critical of his performance but you were on about missed beats. Who cares.
Everyone here knows that Meat reads what is said and everyone should know that he is a perfectionist. I think it was a great performance. Period.
With all the pressures of an album release and the hope that it does well, why should anyone care about minor issues which really don't matter.
To be honest, I've never seen such minor issues discussed as they are here. We seem to have three types of fans, the ones who think that everything Meat says and does is gold and go on forever with false praise, the fans who seem to want to dissect a performance to the point where the lighting color was in doubt and the ones who enjoy what the guy has to offer.
Everything he has in every performance.
robgomm
16 Mar 2012, 13:56
I didn't think that you were critical of his performance but you were on about missed beats. Who cares.
I do because it spoiled the performance for me slightly. God forbid I should air an honest opinion on what is meant to be a place we can discuss things. Yes it was still a great performance.
Yeah, but Meat did something like you're an amazing fan and he loves you, right?? By posting that last line above you're doing exactly what it is that you're objecting to! Time to chalk this one down to experience man :cool:
Exactly right in my view
@mindnick1, I didn't sit there with a stopwatch, someone asked me a question, I replied, I didn't even look for it before the question was asked. If I hadn't been asked I wouldn't have said.
Thanks for not TOTALLY throwing me under the bus by naming names ... ;) ... but jeez, hunh ???
Think of it this way, robbieG ... at least the man "talked" to you ... lol ...
Remember all ... and yeah... I mean you, too, Big Man ... We all live under the same Blue Sky ... ;) ...
Peace out ...
S ... xo
I do because it spoiled the performance for me slightly. God forbid I should air an honest opinion on what is meant to be a place we can discuss things. Yes it was still a great performance.
I have to support you in this. To everyone who didn't understand what the issue was: Meat did not begin on 1, but on 2. When it's a 4/4 like in the giving tree, it sounds wrong. It's a minor issue when you notice the mistake and get back on track, but supposedly Meat didn’t notice and went on in that rythm. Still a strong performance, but I understand why that should spoil someone's listening pleasure.
loaferman61
16 Mar 2012, 15:20
I do because it spoiled the performance for me slightly. God forbid I should air an honest opinion on what is meant to be a place we can discuss things. Yes it was still a great performance.
Unfortunately some people can not take honest discussion. I don't think you were overly critical. Thing is that people unfamiliar with the song would have never noticed it and being such an ardent fan you did. I have learned from this forum unlike any other, half the posts I start to write I just reconsider before hitting post and don't. I am on some forums where there is carnage on a regular basis and if you can't take it you best stay off there. While this is not that type of forum I understand, some of the posters on here would be in a rage or in tears after one post.
I understand Meat takes his work very seriously and I appreciate all he does, but he is in a business where he is going to be subject to things like this. I suppose he takes it different since it is a fan site - hopefully media reviews don't have the same effect on him. I think listening to your customers (in this case your fans) is only good business. You know you can't please everybody, but we can be a source of valuable information for him if it is taken (and presented) in the right way. We care passionately about what he does, that is why this stuff happens. We can either censor it all and hide our heads in the sand or we can say what we think. You can't have it both ways.
Yes, to people who know the song from beginning to end, a couple of beats may have been off, especially having not done the song live before or having to edit it down to fit the time given. That is a minor point. As I said if I'd never heard the song I wouldn't have noticed and it was a very good performance IMO. This is about a larger issue, giving and accepting honest opinion.
I now hit the post button and will no doubt regret it moments after.
(I apologise in advance but keeping my mouth shut re: Meat Loaf has never been a strong point of mine!)
What a shame that, yet again, all of the positive threads have been overlooked.
Threads full of happiness, excitement, great reviews of the album and of appearances...the Oxford St signing thread comes to mind, such a great day of people who took the time and effort to show their support and spent a fortune on travel...goes completely un-noticed.
And those, Mr Loaf, are the threads that show you exactly why this is the Meat Loaf UK Fan Club. It's a shame they don't provoke such a reaction.
Sebastian.
16 Mar 2012, 16:37
(I apologise in advance but keeping my mouth shut re: Meat Loaf has never been a strong point of mine!)
What a shame that, yet again, all of the positive threads have been overlooked.
Threads full of happiness, excitement, great reviews of the album and of appearances...the Oxford St signing thread comes to mind, such a great day of people who took the time and effort to show their support and spent a fortune on travel...goes completely un-noticed.
And those, Mr Loaf, are the threads that show you exactly why this is the Meat Loaf UK Fan Club. It's a shame they don't provoke such a reaction.
I was about to post the exact same thing as you, Lucy.
Meat, how can you say this isn't a fan club? The Oxford Street signing, so many of us travelling from all of the UK (and Europe!) for the chance to meet you, including Rob! Flights, trains, hotels aren't cheap, but it was made worth it by meeting you (and other fan club members).
I love HIAH and have multiple copie sof it, so do a lot of people. I've shown support for it all over the internet, though Rob has taken it to antoher level. Everyone on here has supported it and love it.
Also look at all the work this forum (especially Caryl) put into the Painted Turtle. How many other fansites put time, effort, and money into this or indeed any other charity?
Nobody on here is trying to knock you confidence, you performance on Wetten Das...? and Leno were superb. Rob picked up on something and posted it in a fair way, he wasn't being over critical. I can't understand why people are having a go at him.
This is a fan club where we will discuss you, some may raise points you may not like, but with taht being said they will NEVER mean it in an offfensive way. We will neve rknock you confidence on here. Sure people on othe rsites such as YouTube may act like dicks. But YouTube is a trolls playground, never take anyone's view on there seriously. If someone does say something horrible so what? As Mr. Happy said, you're Meat Loaf. Mr. Bat out of Hell himself. People refer to you as a Rock God, and damn, that's true!
Meat, I hope you read this and I hope you take what we have said on board, please stick around. Have a look at the Oxford Street thread:
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17867
and many of the other positive threads. Everyone on here is a fan, we love and respect you. No one wants to offend you, and I hate to see you this uppset over something that has been blwn way out of proportion. Again please stick around we love hearing from you, as long as it's not you getting upset over something so small.
Once more, we all love and respect you hear, please sticka round. I hope we can se eyou live again soon, as you performances lately have been out of this world!
loaferman61
16 Mar 2012, 16:45
(I apologise in advance but keeping my mouth shut re: Meat Loaf has never been a strong point of mine!)
What a shame that, yet again, all of the positive threads have been overlooked.
Threads full of happiness, excitement, great reviews of the album and of appearances...the Oxford St signing thread comes to mind, such a great day of people who took the time and effort to show their support and spent a fortune on travel...goes completely un-noticed.
And those, Mr Loaf, are the threads that show you exactly why this is the Meat Loaf UK Fan Club. It's a shame they don't provoke such a reaction.
Indeed there are many threads (which I admit irritate me sometimes) that speak as though Meat only does perfection. I have to laugh when after Meat lets you know he doesn't think something was all that great (such as Bat 3 or MATLAF) only then will some people jump on the bandwagon and dare to say that yes some of that was not all that wonderful. I don;t wear rose-colored glasses, and I understand that a song I don't like may be another's favorite song. That is why Meat has such broad audience appeal. As a performer I consider him without equal, that doesn't mean every note is perfect, nor do I expect them to be. I have to wonder how his contemporaries such as Springsteen or Seger deal with comments they view as criticism, no matter how well-intentioned they were coming from a die hard fan. I think Rob even once said he would in effect defend Meat as he would a member of his family. Not exactly a statement to take lightly.
loaferman61
16 Mar 2012, 16:57
I love HIAH and have multiple copie sof it, so do a lot of people. I've shown support for it all over the internet, though Rob has taken it to antoher level. Everyone on here has supported it and love it.
I have the Aussie HIAH download and this week bought a physical copy at Walmart just to support US sales figuring I could play it in the car and it was only $9, but I could have spent that on something else. I chose
to support Meat with my hard-earned dollars because I believe in the album, I believe in Meat, and I believe that by purchasing his work he will get to make more. I believe that also affords the right to express an opinion, and my opinions on the album which for the record I have been overall positive towards. If I were Meat (which I'm not obviously, nor am I in the music business so my view is not the same) I would welcome opinions knowing that some may be off base, but they come from people who are passionate about what I do and support the work that he does for us. "If it wasn't for you there would be no me".
Smithie
16 Mar 2012, 17:02
Meat, we all love you and your music and that is why we spend our hard-earned money on your cds and concerts. I thought you did great. I didn't pay attention to the timing, but those critiques were only a minor point. Of course, fans missed Patti, Randy, Danny...That is a testament to the amazing band you put together. Much respect to them.
Hell in a Handbasket is one of my favorite albums and I hope it does really well.
Guess we wont be getting the board tapes he promised us.
Meat i hate to say this, but honest opinion is honest opinion. True fans dont just kiss up to you and say everything u do is perfect. Youre not perfect. We are not perfect.
I dunno why youd wanna leave behind everyone here who love u dearly cause of our honest opinions on stuff.
Its ridiculous. Take the criticism or ignore it. I know u hate people who hide behind usernames. Most of us arent hiding behind usernames and such. most of the regulars know what each other look like and where we are from. We arent the assholes of the internet
We are the Meat Loaf United Kingdom Fan Club. I dont thin kwe can change that even if we tried.
Meat's Giving tree performance was great, he messes up the second chorus a tad, but it was great (thats happend to me before, coming in too early or such).
and another note Fire Ball......
Use this platform to update us on stuff. I dont care what you think about our opinions on the leno performance. You rarely come here and the one time you did it was to react to the leno comments. When I saw you online I was hoping u'd came here to UPDATE US ON THE LIVE DVD AND CD.
Please Meat! Come back here again! I saw you on Leno, you was great!!
Everywhere are peoplo who like to give some stupid critic! But the absolut most of us love you and thats important! Most of us, do all they can to support you and we believe on you!! And for them and for me it`s very hard to know you don`t believe to us:(
mtaylor315
16 Mar 2012, 17:23
I'm not sure what to say that others haven't, other than to say that I support Robgomm. Think he - and many others - have done a whole lot of good for Meat in various respects.
Being made a scapegoat makes me reconsider posting here at all in the future. Not that anyone would miss such a terrible fan. I might just visit for news in future.
You should continue to post :(
This forum should be about discussion which can include criticism without it turning out like this. I'm afraid people do have criticisms to make sometimes, and whether people like it or not, these criticisms are just as valid as an opinion as anybody elses view. And I'm sure 99% of negative opinions are not put out there in order to hurt anybody! x
robgomm
16 Mar 2012, 17:30
(I apologise in advance but keeping my mouth shut re: Meat Loaf has never been a strong point of mine!)
What a shame that, yet again, all of the positive threads have been overlooked.
Threads full of happiness, excitement, great reviews of the album and of appearances...the Oxford St signing thread comes to mind, such a great day of people who took the time and effort to show their support and spent a fortune on travel...goes completely un-noticed.
And those, Mr Loaf, are the threads that show you exactly why this is the Meat Loaf UK Fan Club. It's a shame they don't provoke such a reaction.
I was about to post the exact same thing as you, Lucy.
Meat, how can you say this isn't a fan club? The Oxford Street signing, so many of us travelling from all of the UK (and Europe!) for the chance to meet you, including Rob! Flights, trains, hotels aren't cheap, but it was made worth it by meeting you (and other fan club members).
I love HIAH and have multiple copie sof it, so do a lot of people. I've shown support for it all over the internet, though Rob has taken it to antoher level. Everyone on here has supported it and love it.
Also look at all the work this forum (especially Caryl) put into the Painted Turtle. How many other fansites put time, effort, and money into this or indeed any other charity?
Nobody on here is trying to knock you confidence, you performance on Wetten Das...? and Leno were superb. Rob picked up on something and posted it in a fair way, he wasn't being over critical. I can't understand why people are having a go at him.
This is a fan club where we will discuss you, some may raise points you may not like, but with taht being said they will NEVER mean it in an offfensive way. We will neve rknock you confidence on here. Sure people on othe rsites such as YouTube may act like dicks. But YouTube is a trolls playground, never take anyone's view on there seriously. If someone does say something horrible so what? As Mr. Happy said, you're Meat Loaf. Mr. Bat out of Hell himself. People refer to you as a Rock God, and damn, that's true!
Meat, I hope you read this and I hope you take what we have said on board, please stick around. Have a look at the Oxford Street thread:
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17867
and many of the other positive threads. Everyone on here is a fan, we love and respect you. No one wants to offend you, and I hate to see you this uppset over something that has been blwn way out of proportion. Again please stick around we love hearing from you, as long as it's not you getting upset over something so small.
Once more, we all love and respect you hear, please sticka round. I hope we can se eyou live again soon, as you performances lately have been out of this world!
Indeed there are many threads (which I admit irritate me sometimes) that speak as though Meat only does perfection. I have to laugh when after Meat lets you know he doesn't think something was all that great (such as Bat 3 or MATLAF) only then will some people jump on the bandwagon and dare to say that yes some of that was not all that wonderful. I don;t wear rose-colored glasses, and I understand that a song I don't like may be another's favorite song. That is why Meat has such broad audience appeal. As a performer I consider him without equal, that doesn't mean every note is perfect, nor do I expect them to be. I have to wonder how his contemporaries such as Springsteen or Seger deal with comments they view as criticism, no matter how well-intentioned they were coming from a die hard fan. I think Rob even once said he would in effect defend Meat as he would a member of his family. Not exactly a statement to take lightly.
Guess we wont be getting the board tapes he promised us.
Meat i hate to say this, but honest opinion is honest opinion. True fans dont just kiss up to you and say everything u do is perfect. Youre not perfect. We are not perfect.
I dunno why youd wanna leave behind everyone here who love u dearly cause of our honest opinions on stuff.
Its ridiculous. Take the criticism or ignore it. I know u hate people who hide behind usernames. Most of us arent hiding behind usernames and such. most of the regulars know what each other look like and where we are from. We arent the assholes of the internet
We are the Meat Loaf United Kingdom Fan Club. I dont thin kwe can change that even if we tried.
Meat's Giving tree performance was great, he messes up the second chorus a tad, but it was great (thats happend to me before, coming in too early or such).
and another note Fire Ball......
Use this platform to update us on stuff. I dont care what you think about our opinions on the leno performance. You rarely come here and the one time you did it was to react to the leno comments. When I saw you online I was hoping u'd came here to UPDATE US ON THE LIVE DVD AND CD.
Thank you all for your support. I'm going to write to Meat to apologise for offending him and point out what Lucy said, that there are a lot of good people on here and there is a lot of positive threads and comments a lot of the time. Anyone know where I can write to?
I don't think many suggested it was perfect, and I don't believe that to simply say .. Meat I loved it, or It was a good performance is "kissing up". To not feel obliged to point out tiny flaws in timing because we know Meat has taken a battering not that long ago, and we know he's sensitive to criticism, and see no point in finding some minor imperfection and raising it, isn't kissing up, or ass, or wearing rose coloured glasses .. it's just respecting another human being's feelings in my view. Meat sings as he feels .. that's his strength, it's the bedrock of the passion we all say we love so much. Nor do I think he needs advice from any of us as to the person he should be, how he should feel, how he should accept criticism or not.
He is the man he is. Who can be unaware of that? He's been open and honest about it. He is a great performer, and I'm perfectly happy to afford him the concern for his feelings when I post here, just as I would anybody I liked and respected, and as I try to do towards those I don't. That's not fan worship .. it's human respect for another's feelings, and compassion.
Snafu said:
Also look at all the work this forum (especially Caryl) put into the Painted Turtle. How many other fansites put time, effort, and money into this or indeed any other charity?
Thanks for that .. but to be honest the support of this forum per se doesn't actually amount to a significant level of effort, time etc. I sell more bands on eBay than I do here, and we sell more via Facebook. I am very grateful to all those at the London signing who supported LFTT, but that was mainly because Jenna and I went there and worked the queue ;) Some of those will have been forum members of course, but check out our thread here. Most of those who do post there have come from Facebook groups; most of our sales are overseas. The effort is really by a handful of fans and not really indicative of this forum's support of Meat. The forum hosts a thread and keeps it stickied for us, and we are very grateful for that. That's simply how it is :)
Caryl
Thank you all for your support. I'm going to write to Meat to apologise for offending him and point out what Lucy said, that there are a lot of good people on here and there is a lot of positive threads and comments a lot of the time. Anyone know where I can write to?
I think you can start by sending a pm. He might get a notification in his e-mail about it ;-)
Or you can use the fanmail adres:
Meat Loaf
Greene and Associates Talent Agency
1901 Avenue Of The Stars
Suite 130
Los Angeles, CA 90067
USA
Usually it's used for getting autographs and such. Maybe you get a real letter back ;)
loaferman61
16 Mar 2012, 18:24
Guess we wont be getting the board tapes he promised us.
I wouldn't necessarily jump to that conclusion. He got upset by something he read here, but I feel he is a man of his word. He's just real busy now understandably, when things slow down a bit I think either he or Paul will post them as he promised. If they are raw board tapes they are really already done.
loaferman61
16 Mar 2012, 18:35
Nor do I think he needs advice from any of us as to the person he should be, how he should feel, how he should accept criticism or not.
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I'm not famous (duh) nor do I make much money, but my work is subject to criticism and I have to accept it. I do not have the luxury of going on a rant, especially at those who's business pays for my salary. It comes with the territory. Now magnify that by a million times in being a high-profile entertainer (I know Meat does not like the word "star"). When you are in the eye of the public you are going to get critiqued. I can not compare what Meat does to any mundane "regular" job, but I can say I have taken a lot of grief that I felt was unfounded and I had to and did accept it. Unfortunately it is part of life and the more you are well known the more it will happen. If a guy just paid $10 for your CD and doesn't like it you can bet he's going to call it :shit: for example. I really like HIAH (not referring to it).
AndrewG
16 Mar 2012, 18:39
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
loaferman61
16 Mar 2012, 18:57
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
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hello Vickip!
thank you very very much for sharing that awesome performance!!
so i was able to watch it also in germany!!
thank you a lot!!
Ollie241189
16 Mar 2012, 20:55
Just seen the Leno performance and wow!!! What a strong and solid performance. I was looking forward to seeing this song live somewhere and my dreams have come true! Fantastic performance of a fantastic song by a fantastic singer!!! Meat, I love ya!
robgomm
16 Mar 2012, 21:09
I wish to say that I was wrong and I completely apologise to Meat for offending him. Meat knows far more about music I do and if he says i'm wrong in what I said then I am, as I made an unfounded musical observation.
snider22
16 Mar 2012, 21:13
on another note, is there a video out there that doesn't have a dvr bleep (sorry vicki ;) ) and is available outside the US?
I have the clean audio that I ripped from NBC.com but not the video, let me know if you would like the audio
The Flying Mouse
16 Mar 2012, 22:07
:twisted: Last few posts deleted.
I've seen this happen too many times.
This thread is getting locked till some heads start to cool a little.
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