Meat Loaf to appear on German TV in December

[Evil One]

For the reason PanicLord sort of explained above: you lose too much of the song. I'd rather have one song done well than three songs butchered and stuck together. :twisted:

[Ollie241189]

Not sure that "All Of Me" was lip synched - some of the vocals sounded different to the album.

Either way, thought it was a great performance and a fantastic way to prove those mean old Aussies wrong - well done to Meat and the band.

I originally thought it was lipsynched but then listening to it again I realised that is wasn't!!!

Meat sounded awesome!!! I hope he is pleased with it! I was very proud of him as you cam see touring sometimes has worn his voice out a bit!!! I was very pleased for him when the video clip finished!!! He sounded freakin amazing and did an awesome job!!!

Well done Meat! Pleased for ya an I hope you're pleased too!!

[robgomm]

I originally thought it was lipsynched but then listening to it again I realised that is wasn't!!!

Meat sounded awesome!!! I hope he is pleased with it! I was very proud of him as you cam see touring sometimes has worn his voice out a bit!!! I was very pleased for him when the video clip finished!!! He sounded freakin amazing and did an awesome job!!!

Well done Meat! Pleased for ya an I hope you're pleased too!!

I agree with all you said. I'm guessing this means that his vocals have healed up as he sounds so great and not like he's got a bit of a sore throat.

[Ollie241189]

I agree with all you said. I'm guessing this means that his vocals have healed up as he sounds so great and not like he's got a bit of a sore throat.

I'm glad he's had a break from touring! Fantastic performance and hopefully many more to come without him overdoing it!

[Wario]

Yeah after re watching it I think also the performance is in fact lip synched.

Still awesome though. I wonder if hes lip synching to edited versions of the Sydney DVD recordings of AFL and TTW :shrug:

[Ollie241189]

Yeah after re watching it I think also the performance is in fact lip synched.

Still awesome though. I wonder if hes lip synching to edited versions of the Sydney DVD recordings of AFL and TTW :shrug:

I really really cant stress how muc i disagree with you Wario. Respectfully of course. I really dont think it was lip synched at all!!!

[snider22]

I really really cant stress how muc i disagree with you Wario. Respectfully of course. I really dont think it was lip synched at all!!!

I have to agree with this, I believe it was live. Meat has been off tour for several weeks, and his voice is rested and he gave it his all and gave us one of the best television performances in years. Not lip synched.

[Vickip]

I have to agree with this, I believe it was live. Meat has been off tour for several weeks, and his voice is rested and he gave it his all and gave us one of the best television performances in years. Not lip synched.

Exactly :-)

Yeah after re watching it I think also the performance is in fact lip synched.

Still awesome though. I wonder if hes lip synching to edited versions of the Sydney DVD recordings of AFL and TTW :shrug:

I'm just curious Wario ... you said yourself you thought it was awesome. So why not just leave it at that, instead of putting the performance under a microscope to try to analyze every little note and detail :??: ;)

[madagascar]

Has anyone find out what show it is? I will record all breakfast shows here in Germany, but it would be nice to know which one is the right one. ;)

Sat 1 Frühstücksfernsehen. :-)

edit:

http://www.fernsehserien.de/index.php?serie=11158&seite=9&sender=30

That page says "Mittwoch, 14.12.2011, um 05:30 Uhr (Sat.1)"

[Sabine]

Meat was yesterday really good!!

...and he has kissing Thomas again, he he.

Sabine:lol:

[unbekannt]

Sat 1 Frühstücksfernsehen. :-)
Are you sure? That's what I thought, too. But Michael Bublé will be there on Monday.

[madagascar]

Are you sure? That's what I thought, too. But Michael Bublé will be there on Monday.

I edited my post the same time you posted your last one. :-P

[unbekannt]

Thanks for posting the link!
Dec. 14th?! Well, now I'm confused… :??:

[suzieq]

Can anyone tell me why it's a big deal if he did lip sync? Did it take away from the performance for you? Is the performance less credible to you? I just don't get it.

[Guppie]

He sounded great, better than I have ever heard the last few years. And great promo, wetten dass is huge in germany, and T. Gottschalk was saying goodbye after 25 years, what a great host he was! I think he will be missed on t.v. by the Germans. From what I saw, he was one of a kind...

The Dutch fans were so pleased with this performance. So... if Meat indeed goes to germany may 2012, we Dutchies all try to go to one of the German concerts. the German fans have made us all feel very welcome in the past, and I'm sure we'll feel welcome in 2012 as well. :cool:

[PanicLord]

Can anyone tell me why it's a big deal if he did lip sync? Did it take away from the performance for you? Is the performance less credible to you? I just don't get it.

Either way, it's impressive, but if live it means it's a great rebuff to all the recent harsh criticism and proves he can still do it under time pressure and on live TV too (which we know he doesn't like)!

[Vickip]

Can anyone tell me why it's a big deal if he did lip sync? Did it take away from the performance for you? Is the performance less credible to you? I just don't get it.

I just don't get it either Suzie :shrug:

[*meatgirl*]

Sat 1 Frühstücksfernsehen. :-)

edit:

http://www.fernsehserien.de/index.php?serie=11158&seite=9&sender=30

That page says "Mittwoch, 14.12.2011, um 05:30 Uhr (Sat.1)"

Thank you

[duke knooby]

i would be surprised if they had been allowed to do the medley live with the restrictions often imposed by live tv, but it was very good, especially how paul did the guitar motorcycle revving noise

[AndrewG]

Even on the X Factor most of the guests usually lip synch even though those are suppossed to be "real" artists in comparison to the contestants. It's quite normal indeed for TV. In fact I think almost all of Meat's performances on UK tv in the 90s and early 2000s have always been done like that and hardly ever with a full band.

[Monstro]

What's often done is that vocals are recorded during rehearsals etc and used on the live show, that way you're still getting live vocals just not live live, if you see what I mean. Not saying that's the case here before I'm jumped on lol

[Wario]

Just realized the intro to the show showed breif footage form the DVD:

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25 second mark

[Ollie241189]

Can anyone tell me why it's a big deal if he did lip sync? Did it take away from the performance for you? Is the performance less credible to you? I just don't get it.

It dont bother me whether it was lip synched or not. I was just saying that it wasnt a lip synched performance. Dont matter to me but I was bloody impressed and pleased for him because of the performance and very proud of him!!!

Im having a bromance with Meat Loaf!!!

[Sarge]

Just realized the intro to the show showed breif footage form the DVD:

[...]

25 second mark

Isn't the DVD supposed to feature footage from Sydney? The artwork on the drumkit appears to be from HCTB. As far as I know, the bass drum was decorated with the HIAH cover artwork during the Sydney concert.

Edit: I knew it looked familiar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh8vVDMXGEQ

[stretch37]

It does not matter if it was lip synced or not. It sounded goddamn good, They did amazing work on it, and it has the potential to get meat to #1 in Germany because of the fabulous production. Anyone who whines about it has got nothing better to do in their life except pick everything apart done by meat.

[Wario]

Isn't the DVD supposed to feature footage from Sydney? The artwork on the drumkit appears to be from HCTB. As far as I know, the bass drum was decorated with the HIAH cover artwork during the Sydney concert.

Edit: I knew it looked familiar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh8vVDMXGEQ

ah yes my mistake.

[PanicLord]

It does not matter if it was lip synced or not. It sounded goddamn good, They did amazing work on it, and it has the potential to get meat to #1 in Germany because of the fabulous production. Anyone who whines about it has got nothing better to do in their life except pick everything apart done by meat.

I hadn't noticed anyone whining about it, just inquiring in a friendly manner, but either way I 100% agree it was a terrific job and excellent promotion for Meat. Looks like it's having a positive effect according to the other thread about chart positions - a job very well done indeed!

[allrevvedup]

Still not convinced by All of Me but, as a medley, the performance it was a million times better than the AFL one

[SueL]

I couldn't agree more, come on the rest of you, what's with the negativity? Meat has never let us down and I'm sure this will be great and I for one, can't wait!!!!!!!! :D

And you were proven so right!!! ;)

The entire performance ROCKED, but ALL OF ME..... ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!! :D

MEAT ~ YOU WERE FABULOUS!!!

[SueL]

I really really cant stress how muc i disagree with you Wario. Respectfully of course. I really dont think it was lip synched at all!!!

NO WAY!!!

[stretch37]

I think parts of it were live and parts were pre recorded. It was ingenious!!!! And like I said it doesn't matter, the production was ~~~~ing epic!

[Kathy]

Thanks so much to Stretch and Adje and Unbekannt for posting the links! I enjoyed that :) and I'm thrilled Meat was on this big show!! Can't you just hear the worldwide buzz factor increasing :)

[chairboys]

I'm just curious Wario ... you said yourself you thought it was awesome. So why not just leave it at that, instead of putting the performance under a microscope to try to analyze every little note and detail :??: ;)

I now have an image of a white-coated Dr. Wario in his purpose built "Meat Loaf Testing Laboratory"

[robgomm]

I now have an image of a white-coated Dr. Wario in his purpose built "Meat Loaf Testing Laboratory"

That's probably not far from the truth to be honest. Wario goes overboard disecting everything Meat does.

[razorball2002]

Well I dont know why people on this forum are being so exited about a lip synched performance? Is being a fan = being naïve?
I would rather be impressed at seeing Meat do a great LIVE vocal performance LIVE on TV. When is it that he sounded great on TV during a live performance? Really i can't remember, but since the Hang Cool CD came out, I would say NONE (with the exeption of Living on the outside at one TV show maybe...). He sounded great live during a hang cool show when I saw him, but at every TV show i'm like: ARGH!!!!.......... Noooooooo!!! Please Meat stop to stress out so much your vocal chords!!!!!!¨.....
Really, there is nothing extraordinary at lip synching a song, even if you're Meat Loaf. Hope it gets him to sell some CDs, thats all.
PS: I have been watching Wetten dass since my childhood, and EVERY artist I saw on this show lip synched, so I just hope noone will persist on saying it was live.

[CarylB]

Can anyone tell me why it's a big deal if he did lip sync? Did it take away from the performance for you? Is the performance less credible to you? I just don't get it.

I have no idea either why this always has to be the subject of guesses, assumptions, pontifications and debates either :roll:

Was it a great performance? YES. Did he rock the house down in style? YES. Was it Meat singing? YES. Why the hell that can't be enough baffles me. (Nor how anyone who wasn't on that set can make their assumptions by simply watching YT clips anyway. Going on those the host lip synched his way through Meat's introduction :lol:)

It was a terrific performance, what was recorded then or earlier, or delivered live only Meat knows .. It was HIM singing, he was great, I loved it, the audience loved it, he was clearly delighted, and frankly that's more than sufficient for me.

Caryl

[snider22]

Well I dont know why people on this forum are being so exited about a lip synched performance? Is being a fan = being naïve?
.
Really, there is nothing extraordinary at lip synching a song, even if you're Meat Loaf. Hope it gets him to sell some CDs, thats all.
PS: I have been watching Wetten dass since my childhood, and EVERY artist I saw on this show lip synched, so I just hope noone will persist on saying it was live.

Lol, if watching/participating in something since childhood makes you an iron clad expert on a subject, then I just realized that I am officially a freaking genius. :cool: Seriously, just ask me, I'll tell you.

Dude, you are doing what many people tend to do, you are presenting your opinion as fact and that is just not the case. I personally stand by my opinion that the performance was live, and unless Meat tells us otherwise, I will continue to believe that. And, no I am not naïve, I just think it was a great performance by a well rested performer.

[robgomm]

I have no idea either why this always has to be the subject of guesses, assumptions, pontifications and debates either :roll:

Was it a great performance? YES. Did he rock the house down in style? YES. Was it Meat singing? YES. Why the hell that can't be enough baffles me. (Nor how anyone who wasn't on that set can make their assumptions by simply watching YT clips anyway. Going on those the host lip synched his way through Meat's introduction :lol:)

It was a terrific performance, what was recorded then or earlier, or delivered live only Meat knows .. It was HIM singing, he was great, I loved it, the audience loved it, he was clearly delighted, and frankly that's more than sufficient for me.

Caryl

Well said.

[CarylB]

Well I dont know why people on this forum are being so exited about a lip synched performance? Is being a fan = being naïve?

Well you might of course be much better informed and knowledgeable than some of us .. but I think being a fan means that you delight in a great performance, in hearing great vocals, in seeing Meat's delight. To me that's not naive .. simply positive, supportive, and one of those fans who actually ENJOYS hearing and watching the performer they follow. It was HIS voice, and some of us take our simple pleasures in that.

....so I just hope noone will persist on saying it was live.

Why? They are entitled to make their own assumptions, just as you make yours (I suspect you weren't on the set or the soundboard, so you too are making an assumption based on what you consider to be the evidence). And if anyone wants to express what they think, and that happens (heaven forfend) to be at odds with your view, they are entitled to say what they think ..

Meat appeared on Wetten Das. He was great, and if some of us find that exciting so be it. I think it's terrific to be a fan who DOES get excited by seeing and hearing the performer I follow, simply enjoys it, doesn't need to examine it and dissect it, but can simply take pleasure in it and celebrate.

Caryl

[2jaxx]

I guess people just want to make sure Meat can still do it without the comfort and safety of a recording studio. At least All of Me was part lip sync. That's a given. I have such a sensitive memory for sung words that I would hear the difference at once. And the first verse is right from the CD.

[loaferman61]

Well I dont know why people on this forum are being so exited about a lip synched performance? Is being a fan = being naïve?
I would rather be impressed at seeing Meat do a great LIVE vocal performance LIVE on TV. When is it that he sounded great on TV during a live performance? Really i can't remember, but since the Hang Cool CD came out, I would say NONE (with the exeption of Living on the outside at one TV show maybe...). He sounded great live during a hang cool show when I saw him, but at every TV show i'm like: ARGH!!!!.......... Noooooooo!!! Please Meat stop to stress out so much your vocal chords!!!!!!¨.....
Really, there is nothing extraordinary at lip synching a song, even if you're Meat Loaf. Hope it gets him to sell some CDs, thats all.
PS: I have been watching Wetten dass since my childhood, and EVERY artist I saw on this show lip synched, so I just hope noone will persist on saying it was live.

Many tv shows do not allow live performances as a rule. I recall Dick Clark's "American Bandstand" when I was young (very, very young LOL) one band made headlines because they suddenly played something live without the producer's knowledge. I don't think they ever appeared on there again and as I recall the producers were quite upset the lip sync only rule being broken. In America I have noted Saturday Night Live going from all live performances to a mixture of live and either outright lip sync or backing tracks. Depends on what the show allows.

[nikox1]

great performance!!! does everybody agree? end of people!!!!!

[robgomm]

I guess people just want to make sure Meat can still do it without the comfort and safety of a recording studio. At least All of Me was part lip sync. That's a given. I have such a sensitive memory for sung words that I would hear the difference at once. And the first verse is right from the CD.

Again, just you're just stating an opinion, not a fact as you make it sound.

[robgomm]

In my opinion for what it's worth the whole thing was live vocals. All Of Me was live vocals in my view because there was an ad lib that was different from the record.

I find it hard to believe that Meat would be able to lip sync the whole performance THAT perfectly, even the ad libs, if it was it was the best mime in history. Just like someone who said Lady Gaga lip synced at Children In Need when it was so obvious she didn't. The signs are there if you look hard enough that it's live, and I saw enough to convince me.

[nikox1]

In my opinion for what it's worth the whole thing was live vocals. All Of Me was live vocals in my view because there was an ad lib that was different from the record.

I find it hard to believe that Meat would be able to lip sync the whole performance THAT perfectly, even the ad libs, if it was it was the best mime in history. Just like someone who said Lady Gaga lip synced at Children In Need when it was so obvious she didn't. The signs are there if you look hard enough that it's live, and I saw enough to convince me.

best post of this thread!!! 100% on the money!!!

[chairboys]

If Meat is reading any of this debate I bet he's having a good laugh.
I must say I didn't realise half of what goes on in a TV performance!
It certainly sounded live to me, although I am easily fooled. Even it wasn't live live as Monstro said I couldn't really care. I doubt he would have had time to do too many takes in the rehearsals so, to me, I am counting it as live!!
We had to endure nearly 3hrs of german entertainment before Meat came on, so I was determined to enjoy the moment and, by heck, I did!!

[CarylB]

I guess people just want to make sure Meat can still do it without the comfort and safety of a recording studio.

Which he's been doing regularly during the last two years, on stage, live, loud, in-your-face proud and bloody brilliantly .. so they should all be pretty happy

Caryl

[robgomm]

best post of this thread!!! 100% on the money!!!

Thank you. For those that are wondering there was a bit during All Of Me where he did an 'oh' ad lib that wasn't on the record.

[pierre]

It was great performance and I enjoyed it very much (the lights, the cut with the singing girl in the audience, etc.) It doesn´t matter, but I think it was live pre recorded and a very good lip sync. In my mind, it wasn´t synchron at the end of Anything for example.
Am I right, that there wasn´t a performance at the announced breakfast show today?

[melon]

By the way HIAH is currently #12 on German iTunes. Not bad to say it's been out for a day.
Great!!! Congratulations Meat, I hope it continues upwards from there!

1st: LOVE the Meat Loaf lighting behind John. 2nd: The new jacket (moons/stars/peace signs)...is a grower on me.
Me too!


I'm just curious Wario ... you said yourself you thought it was awesome. So why not just leave it at that, instead of putting the performance under a microscope to try to analyze every little note and detail :??: ;)
Beacuase iz Wario ;)

In my opinion for what it's worth the whole thing was live vocals. All Of Me was live vocals in my view because there was an ad lib that was different from the record.

I find it hard to believe that Meat would be able to lip sync the whole performance THAT perfectly, even the ad libs, if it was it was the best mime in history. Just like someone who said Lady Gaga lip synced at Children In Need when it was so obvious she didn't. The signs are there if you look hard enough that it's live, and I saw enough to convince me.
It's taken me a few days, I've been away fro cricket, but I finally got to watch this. I was thinking when I watched it that AOM sounded very similar to the recorded version, but then I watched closely, he is in perfect timing and Meat has always said that he never stays in time, and it did sound a bit different, I am pretty sure it's not lip synched, but so what if it was? It was great and TTW & AFL were fantastic!

If Meat is reading any of this debate I bet he's having a good laugh.
I must say I didn't realise half of what goes on in a TV performance!
It certainly sounded live to me, although I am easily fooled. Even it wasn't live live as Monstro said I couldn't really care. I doubt he would have had time to do too many takes in the rehearsals so, to me, I am counting it as live!!

Me too, all all counts!

[glamourgirl]

That was brilliant! Meat & Patti sounded fantastic and the band was great too. I hope they perform this medley for the US/Canadian promo too. Hats off to Patti for giving up her SAS show to perform with Meat. It was an awesome performance!

[chairboys]

I've been away fro cricket




Winning?

[BATOUTOFHEAVEN]

Listen to yourselves people!! There really is no pleasing some of you. Meat did a great performance. So let's just leave it at that because I'm sure if Meat had been lip-syncing he would have told us. So just forget about whether he lip-synced and focus on what a great job Meat did and I thoroughly enjoyed it! I know it's an old cliche but he certainly rolled back the years!!

[melon]

Winning?

Not as much as we would have liked :evil:

[glamourgirl]

Has this interview been posted yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQCBYz2JrFs&feature=player_embedded

[chairboys]

Has this interview been posted yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQCBYz2JrFs&feature=player_embedded

Yes!! Somewhere. But it is definitely worth watching.

[robgomm]

So I just watched this recording in HD (720p), and there's just no way this was lip synced. Sorry but every single word was on time, 100% perfect lip sync if it was which is virtually impossible, and that fact including the ad lib and the obviously live sounding vocals anyway convinces me 100%.

Don't see how anyone can say otherwise and i'm upset that this was even brought up, some of you just seem to want to find some way to bring down Meat every time he does something good. You over analyse and nit pick, which is really quite sad.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RieYkVvg7jk&feature=share

[ShelbyLee]

If you wanna see the kisses:
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Thanks for posting this video and thanks also for the interview link.

This is an amazing performance. Meat, Patti and the guys should be very proud. I think Thomas is in love with Patti. ;)

[Moonlight shadow]

Only one thing:
With 63 years old, I think is impossible make so good (supossing it was lip synched).
Years ago, in each perfomance maked in lip synched, he got at least one error.
But in this time, has been perfect.
Lip or no lip s. congratulations Meat!!!

It has been fantastic.
Magnifica actuacion GRACIAS!!

[lyn]

After watching his performance, he did not lip sync at all. Compare it to his live dvd performances and you will easily see that this performance was all Meat and nothing lip synched. You know, there seems to be no pleasing some of his fans on the forum at all. The worst part is that Meat comes on here to read stuff and to share, and yet we have this negative rot displayed!!!:(:mad: Wasn't it enough when Meat copped flack about his performance in Australia, without saying that his performance in Germany was lip synched??? Come on guys, fair go!!!

Oh and to add to that, I thought his performance was brilliant! :D Nothing short of perfection :D And Patti and the band also performed brilliantly too :D

[Sarge]

So some people suspect Meat Loaf lip-synced on TV - something many artists have done before. Oh, what an audacity! How dare they say that? Those who feel offended by this obviously missed his previous appearances on that show. Neither is lip-synching on TV something to be ashamed of nor is favoring live vocals over a tape offensive.

I regret having started this thread. The same bullshit again and again. You post info on something fans might be interested in and sooner or later something someone has said is (ab)used as a pretext to start the same old "good fan / bad fan" argument. You can't even discuss a performance on an entertainment show without a certain group of people getting personal and trying to dictate who is allowed to voice their opinion and who is not. :down: This is as equally sad and annoying as the stupid anti-Wetten, dass..?/anti-Gottschalk comments I read on German websites.

I'd rather read ten pages about the flower box Meat handed to Thomas or about Karl Lagerfeld's gloves and trousers than watch another thread that started out interesting derail and go to the dogs.

[wizardofodd]

If Meat reads this i hope it takes it positively, the real fact is the reason why people are debating if it is Lip Sync is the fact it was an absolutely vocally tremendous performance. I dont really know it its lip sync, if it is then it is probably one of the best lip syncs i have ever seen- and probably means it was rehearsed to death which we must give him credit for. At the end of the day it was a great performance both vocally and production wise and a great stage with a large audience, exactly what he needed. Very happy for him.

[lyn]

If Meat reads this i hope it takes it positively, the real fact is the reason why people are debating if it is Lip Sync is the fact it was an absolutely vocally tremendous performance. I dont really know it its lip sync, if it is then it is probably one of the best lip syncs i have ever seen- and probably means it was rehearsed to death which we must give him credit for. At the end of the day it was a great performance both vocally and production wise and a great stage with a large audience, exactly what he needed. Very happy for him.

I think for the little time he had available to him he wouldn't had enough time to practice to lip synch that to the quality he performed it. Yes some may say that he did, and some don't agree. But all in all it was a marvelous show.

Yes we all start threads or post different views, but we must realise some posts are going to get negative responses. But hey, we are all here to talk about Meat and support Meat, and at the end of the day, that is all that matters ;) :)

[PanicLord]

What I don't understand about this is that I haven't seen any negativity or rot. Every single post has given glowing reviews of Meat's performance as far as I can tell. I don't see how simply wondering whether it was partly lip synched is offensive, given that, even if some of it was lip synched, we all seem to agree that it is a commonly used and harmless practice.

It was a terrific performance and a great start to the promo in Germany.

Amen.

[lyn]

So some people suspect Meat Loaf lip-synced on TV - something many artists have done before. Oh, what an audacity! How dare they say that? Those who feel offended by this obviously missed his previous appearances on that show. Neither is lip-synching on TV something to be ashamed of nor is favoring live vocals over a tape offensive.

I regret having started this thread. The same bullshit again and again. You post info on something fans might be interested in and sooner or later something someone has said is (ab)used as a pretext to start the same old "good fan / bad fan" argument. You can't even discuss a performance on an entertainment show without a certain group of people getting personal and trying to dictate who is allowed to voice their opinion and who is not. :down: This is as equally sad and annoying as the stupid anti-Wetten, dass..?/anti-Gottschalk comments I read on German websites.

I'd rather read ten pages about the flower box Meat handed to Thomas or about Karl Lagerfeld's gloves and trousers than watch another thread that started out interesting derail and go to the dogs.

Well Sarge you did start this thread, and I give you credit for that. But did you really expect to get just boring or positive responses all the way through? Yes we all have our views lol, and we all follow Meat and discuss everything Meat here, but you post anything regarding his performance whether it is positive or negative then you have to expect some backlash.

But regardless of what we all think, at the end of the day his performance at Wetten Dass was great and the band performed really well :D Meat look well rested, and All of Me, well it will sound great in his live concerts imo :D

[BATOUTOFHEAVEN]

I knew it wasn't lip synced and I knew it would be a great performance. Meat, when you read this please forget about all the other comments and if anything take it in a positive way because you rocked and some small minded people don't believe that a 64 year old can do that. Well I think those people need reminding that Meat ain't no ordinary 64 year old, he could out sing many singers half his age and he don't need to lip-sync to put on a great vocal performance. Keep rocking Meat because no one rocks as good as you!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wario]

the majority isnt lip synched (Notice emat's new posture? hes not walking around the stage, its more reminiscent of his 1987-1993 posture). only a few bits of AOM are, as its pitched down to fit the tempo of the live instruments. relax people

[lyn]

Well Sarge you did start this thread, and I give you credit for that. But did you really expect to get just boring or positive responses all the way through? Yes we all have our views lol, and we all follow Meat and discuss everything Meat here, but you post anything regarding his performance whether it is positive or negative then you have to expect some backlash.

But regardless of what we all think, at the end of the day his performance at Wetten Dass was great and the band performed really well :D Meat look well rested, and All of Me, well it will sound great in his live concerts imo :D

What I don't understand about this is that I haven't seen any negativity or rot. Every single post has given glowing reviews of Meat's performance as far as I can tell. I don't see how simply wondering whether it was partly lip synched is offensive, given that, even if some of it was lip synched, we all seem to agree that it is a commonly used and harmless practice.

It was a terrific performance and a great start to the promo in Germany.

Amen.

Ok I respect your response on that, but whether he lip synched or not, none of us will know. The negative is the fact that some of us are saying that Meat did. Yes it may be a common thing to do in perfomances, but to say that Meat has partly done it or done it for the whole performance is probably not the right thing to say here imo. Yes he might not be too phased to read this thread, but I don't think he'd like reading this either, if you understand what I mean. Like he might think we are kind of knocking his live act etc.

Anyway, I agree, it was a terrific performance and that everybody will be in for a real treat when he goes on tour again ;) :D

[lyn]

I knew it wasn't lip synced and I knew it would be a great performance. Meat, when you read this please forget about all the other comments and if anything take it in a positive way because you rocked and some small minded people don't believe that a 64 year old can do that. Well I think those people need reminding that Meat ain't no ordinary 64 year old, he could out sing many singers half his age and he don't need to lip-sync to put on a great vocal performance. Keep rocking Meat because no one rocks as good as you!!!!!!!!!!!

Couldn't of agreed with you more there. :) You look at the live performance on Wetten Das and compare it to his live performance with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, and there is no lip synching. Meat isn't a performer like that at all.

Anyway Meat, your performance was nothing short of brilliant!

[lyn]

Couldn't of agreed with you more there. :) You look at the live performance on Wetten Das and compare it to his live performance with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, and there is no lip synching. Meat isn't a performer like that at all.

Anyway Meat, your performance was nothing short of brilliant!

the majority isnt lip synched (Notice emat's new posture? hes not walking around the stage, its more reminiscent of his 1987-1993 posture). only a few bits of AOM are, as its pitched down to fit the tempo of the live instruments. relax people

Don't entirely agree with you there on the lip synch thing Wario, but yes, I did notice the new posture, which works ok imo :D

[stretch37]

You Guys need to chill out. No ones trying to be negative, stop telling me I am or anyone else who suggested some of it was lip synced possibly. Its ~~~~ing annoying.

Meat did fantastic, the mix and the production were so great. If anything it's a time to celebrate. Don't pick on people just because of their opinion. It's not fair. These are discussion forums. key word discussion

And don't tell me there's "no pleasing me". Don't put words in my mouth. I am very happy with the show and I am ~~~~ing pleased with it! It means the world to me how good it went. I know you people are upset and defensive for meat, but in this case you are actually doing the bullying! And I am on your side for ~~~~ sakes. Sick of this shit on these forums it's annoying as hell!

[BATOUTOFHEAVEN]

Couldn't of agreed with you more there. :) You look at the live performance on Wetten Das and compare it to his live performance with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, and there is no lip synching. Meat isn't a performer like that at all.

Anyway Meat, your performance was nothing short of brilliant!

People seem to forget that HIAHB had no voice effects and so even his live performances of those songs will sound similar to the studio versions, don't mean he's lip syncing. :cool:

[lyn]

Anyway, what does it really matter??? Meat is a bloody brilliant performer and his performance was perfection at it's best! :D So in my eyes that is all that matters here ;) :D

[lyn]

Thanks for posting this video and thanks also for the interview link.

This is an amazing performance. Meat, Patti and the guys should be very proud. I think Thomas is in love with Patti. ;)

It was a brilliant performance that is for sure :D It would have been great to be part of the crowd that was there to watch it :D

[BATOUTOFHEAVEN]

Anyway, what does it really matter??? Meat is a bloody brilliant performer and his performance was perfection at it's best! :D So in my eyes that is all that matters here ;) :D

CHSIB although there must be a more powerful word than perfection ;)

[loaferman61]

Does not matter a bit to me if it was live or not. Meat was on a huge television show and hit a home run. No media controversy, no jokes at his expense. He showed all the nay-sayers they could go do those "three little words" and that is good enough for me. I pray the DVD sounds as good to watch in all its blu-ray, surround-sound goodness.

[lyn]

Couldn't of agreed with you more there. :) You look at the live performance on Wetten Das and compare it to his live performance with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, and there is no lip synching. Meat isn't a performer like that at all.

Anyway Meat, your performance was nothing short of brilliant!

People seem to forget that HIAHB had no voice effects and so even his live performances of those songs will sound similar to the studio versions, don't mean he's lip syncing. :cool:

That's exactly right mate, there was no voice affects on HIAHB at all. So they can't be said to be lip synched when done live either :cool:;):D

[Sarge]

But did you really expect to get just boring or positive responses all the way through?

Is it possible that you misunderstood my post?

Don't pick on people just because of their opinion. It's not fair. These are discussion forums. key word discussion

I'll remind you of that post next time you complain about "whining" people who "pick" on Meat or favor Meat giving someone "a bit of a beating" for having the "wrong" opinion. :twisted:

[lyn]

That's exactly right mate, there was no voice affects on HIAHB at all. So they can't be said to be lip synched when done live either :cool:;):D

Does not matter a bit to me if it was live or not. Meat was on a huge television show and hit a home run. No media controversy, no jokes at his expense. He showed all the nay-sayers they could go do those "three little words" and that is good enough for me. I pray the DVD sounds as good to watch in all its blu-ray, surround-sound goodness.

Couldn't have said it better myself mate! :D Hey I can't wait until his new dvd comes out :D Is there any word on when it may come out?

I've only just got his live dvd with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, and it is brilliant :D

[lyn]

Is it possible that you misunderstood my post?



I'll remind you of that post next time you complain about "whining" people who "pick" on Meat or favor Meat giving someone "a bit of a beating" for having the "wrong" opinion. :twisted:

I might have slightly misunderstood your post Sarge, and maybe I was a bit harsh to an extent but I will stand by my opinion ;)

As for the other quote here, I'm not even going to touch or respond to mate out of respect :)

[duke knooby]

Couldn't have said it better myself

i can almost feel a get back to the topic warning appearing... but as usual i wont help matters

please enjoy this performance meat did in 2003 to promote his then new single

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHM5D1efQb8

you can decide for yourselves, was it lip synched? was it live? was it an excellent performance? would it help promote the album?

etc etc

or who cares... enjoy it or not :twisted:

[lyn]

CHSIB although there must be a more powerful word than perfection ;)

He he he, now that my friend is so true ;) :)

[Sarge]

you can decide for yourselves, was it lip synched? was it live?

It's blocked in my country, so I suspect it's not live. ;)

[lyn]

CHSIB although there must be a more powerful word than perfection ;)

i can almost feel a get back to the topic warning appearing... but as usual i wont help matters

please enjoy this performance meat did in 2003 to promote his then new single

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHM5D1efQb8

you can decide for yourselves, was it lip synched? was it live? was it an excellent performance? would it help promote the album?

etc etc

or who cares... enjoy it or not :twisted:

I remember watching this clip, and it was a brilliant performance too :D Just love this song :) Thanks for sharing those, and regardless to what our opinions are on the lip synch thing, this clip you have shared here plus the live performance in Germany was simply brilliant, and our man Rock 'n' rolls well ;) :)

[ShelbyLee]

It's a magnificent performance! I'm so proud of Meat, Patti and the band.

[duke knooby]

It's blocked in my country, so I suspect it's not live. ;)

thats cheating...


try this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfu376BXYE

[Sarge]

Blocked as well. :))

[duke knooby]

I remember watching this clip, and it was a brilliant performance too :D Just love this song :) Thanks for sharing those, and regardless to what our opinions are on the lip synch thing, this clip you have shared here plus the live performance in Germany was simply brilliant, and our man Rock 'n' rolls well ;) :)

you'll remember it was the lottery show then, not top of the pops as the clip says :-)

[lyn]

It's a magnificent performance! I'm so proud of Meat, Patti and the band.

So true lol ;) :)

[duke knooby]

Blocked as well. :))

and synched aswell (i think)... pretty standard for tv promo performances

(not saying wetten dass was or wasn't cause i was not there)

just showing its not always possible to sing live on a live tv show no matter who you are, or how good you are performing

(and i hope meat doesnt read this thread and think that people think he's not a good enough actor to synch perfectly to his own songs :twisted:)

^^^ only messin :D

[duke knooby]

Blocked as well. :))

try this one then, last one... i promise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy42MorLegs

[Sarge]

try this one then, last one... i promise

I can watch it, they must have missed this one. :lawl: Sounds like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZqzgIMSvwo) to me. ;) That was the time when I went to my first (and best) Meat Loaf concert, seems to be long ago...

[Deena J]

I pray the DVD sounds as good to watch in all its blu-ray, surround-sound goodness.

Sigh, ok you are REALLY making me hate the idea of waiting for the DVD to come out... And I already am past impatient for it. Thanks a lot! :P LOL Just kidding! ;)

PS: I know the DVD will be a-maz-ing!!!!!! :D I can just feel it...

[snider22]

Blocked as well. :))

I know this is off topic, but why are so many videos blocked in your part of the world :??:

[Sarge]

[...] why are so many videos blocked in your part of the world :??:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/03/technology/internet/03youtube.html

[Deena J]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/03/technology/internet/03youtube.html

Thanks for the info/link. I had been wondering the same thing lately. I hate that for y'all though. :-/

[carole]

Well you might of course be much better informed and knowledgeable than some of us .. but I think being a fan means that you delight in a great performance, in hearing great vocals, in seeing Meat's delight. To me that's not naive .. simply positive, supportive, and one of those fans who actually ENJOYS hearing and watching the performer they follow. It was HIS voice, and some of us take our simple pleasures in that.



Why? They are entitled to make their own assumptions, just as you make yours (I suspect you weren't on the set or the soundboard, so you too are making an assumption based on what you consider to be the evidence). And if anyone wants to express what they think, and that happens (heaven forfend) to be at odds with your view, they are entitled to say what they think ..

Meat appeared on Wetten Das. He was great, and if some of us find that exciting so be it. I think it's terrific to be a fan who DOES get excited by seeing and hearing the performer I follow, simply enjoys it, doesn't need to examine it and dissect it, but can simply take pleasure in it and celebrate.

Caryl

That's exactly right Caryl, I just enjoyed seeing Meat on TV again and thought he did brilliantly.

Carole

[carole]

In my opinion for what it's worth the whole thing was live vocals. All Of Me was live vocals in my view because there was an ad lib that was different from the record.

I find it hard to believe that Meat would be able to lip sync the whole performance THAT perfectly, even the ad libs, if it was it was the best mime in history. Just like someone who said Lady Gaga lip synced at Children In Need when it was so obvious she didn't. The signs are there if you look hard enough that it's live, and I saw enough to convince me.

Yeah, I noticed that too, I started to sing the line on the record, but he sang a different line.

Carole

[CarylB]

I regret having started this thread. The same bullshit again and again. You post info on something fans might be interested in and sooner or later something someone has said is (ab)used as a pretext to start the same old "good fan / bad fan" argument.

Really? I missed it if anyone referred to "good", "bad" or the bizarre term "real" fans. Some were dismissed as naive for holding a different view (which I'd say was "personal" and is likely to provoke a response).

You can't even discuss a performance on an entertainment show without a certain group of people getting personal and trying to dictate who is allowed to voice their opinion and who is not ...

Dictating is rather a strong term I think. If it's OK for some to present their opinions, surely it's permissable for others to disagree and venture to post their opposing view?

If not, then who shall dictate which view may be presented as fact which all others must accept, and which view is "getting personal"? Who shall dictate which is the group that is allowed to state an opinion, and which will be the "certain group" who presumably may not?

Caryl

[lyn]

That's exactly right Caryl, I just enjoyed seeing Meat on TV again and thought he did brilliantly.

Carole

Yes Carole, I couldn't agree with Caryl more luv :) I absolutely loved watching it, and I just had that feeling of weakness in the knees and the flutter in the heart when watching it too.

I don't care what anybody says or assumes about whether he lip synched or not. Meat done me proud and his fans. I love his music and really love just listening to him everyday. I don't think he's an artist to lip synch at all, but if he said he did, well I'd love him regardless because of his sheer bloody brilliance.

But no one will convince me of it and unless Meat comes on here and says "hey guys I lip synched that performance". No amount of clips posted will convince me otherwise. That my friends is how much love and faith I have in this beautiful guy :) :D ;)

[lyn]

Yes Carole, I couldn't agree with Caryl more luv :) I absolutely loved watching it, and I just had that feeling of weakness in the knees and the flutter in the heart when watching it too.

I don't care what anybody says or assumes about whether he lip synched or not. Meat done me proud and his fans. I love his music and really love just listening to him everyday. I don't think he's an artist to lip synch at all, but if he said he did, well I'd love him regardless because of his sheer bloody brilliance.

But no one will convince me of it and unless Meat comes on here and says "hey guys I lip synched that performance". No amount of clips posted will convince me otherwise. That my friends is how much love and faith I have in this beautiful guy :) :D ;)

Really? I missed it if anyone referred to "good", "bad" or the bizarre term "real" fans. Some were dismissed as naive for holding a different view (which I'd say was "personal" and is likely to provoke a response).



Dictating is rather a strong term I think. If it's OK for some to present their opinions, surely it's permissable for others to disagree and venture to post their opposing view?

If not, then who shall dictate which view may be presented as fact which all others must accept, and which view is "getting personal"? Who shall dictate which is the group that is allowed to state an opinion, and which will be the "certain group" who presumably may not?

Caryl

I certainly back that Caryl ;) :)

We should all expect that when one posts a thread, such as this one, of course there is going to be different views, and yes people may not like what someone else has had to say, but it is all part of the forum.

As for the topic here, well feathers are bound to be ruffled. I know mine have been, but I'm standing up for my view, and if people agree or disagree with that, well that is your call ;)

The Wetten Dass performance, as I've said earlier, was nothing short of brilliant, and I don't think it was lip synched at all. But the best part was that I BLOODY ENJOYED IT TO THE FULL! I can't get enough of Meat right now :D I can't wait until his Sydney dvd comes out either :D All in all he means a lot to me, and that is all that matters in my life at the moment, other than my hubby and daughter of course ;) :)

[Elijah's way]

I can watch it, they must have missed this one. :lawl: Sounds like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZqzgIMSvwo) to me. ;) That was the time when I went to my first (and best) Meat Loaf concert, seems to be long ago...

Ozzy Loaf :lol:

[Sarge]

@ Caryl: You probably didn't read some posts on this thread carefully enough and missed the way they are worded.

[CarylB]

@ Caryl: You probably didn't read some posts on this thread carefully enough

Priceless .. :lol: Thank you.

... and missed the way they are worded.

I suspect I have missed, ie fundamentally dis-agreed with, the way you have interpreted them

Caryl

[robgomm]

Err can we stop posting links to obviously mimed previous performances. It's pointless and it's easy to tell they were lip synced.

Shall I tell you a BIG clue which everyone seems to have missed? The earpiece in the ear. If he's got it in it's so he can hear himself so he's singing live. On Wetten Das the earpiece was in, on the old videos posted the earpiece wasn't in. I rest my case. So can everyone please stop now with this daft discussion.

[chairboys]

Just read all the posts from last night on this 'controversial' subject.
I was really giggling to myself at the intensity of everyone's views.
But, by the end of it all I was beginning to feel as though we are going round in circles.
As has been said before, just about everybody is in agreement that it was an excellent performance. And I really don't care either way about the "liveness" of it all.
Just one thing though, Rob. Perhaps the earpiece was just a fake prop to fool us?

[robgomm]

Just one thing though, Rob. Perhaps the earpiece was just a fake prop to fool us?

Oh ha ha very funny, I can tell when you're on a windup lol

[chairboys]

Oh ha ha very funny, I can tell when you're on a windup lol

never

[Mr. Happy]

Shall I tell you a BIG clue which everyone seems to have missed? The earpiece in the ear. If he's got it in it's so he can hear himself so he's singing live. On Wetten Das the earpiece was in, on the old videos posted the earpiece wasn't in. I rest my case. So can everyone please stop now with this daft discussion.

Even if it was lip synced, it's still entirely possible that he would have used the earpiece. He still has to hear the song to know when to mime, and when you're on a stage like that, hearing what's going on isn't as easy as it sounds :P By that logic, what's the point of having the guitarist play the guitar when there's a backing track being used anyway? ;)

I don't think it was lip synced, anyway. And that's because at the very start of Anything For Love, you can clearly see Paul reach up and retune the E string of his guitar down to drop D. If it was a backing track, that would have been 100% unnecessary, because it would have been impossible for anyone to tell the difference anyway.

*Ends daft discussion*

All that matters is that it was an awesome performance (regardless of whether it was lip synced or not) and we didn't have a repeat of the AFL. AND, on top of that, HiaHB charted well in Germany because of it :D

[SueL]

CHSIB although there must be a more powerful word than perfection ;)

Impeccable? :??::D

[TheDoode]

That was a really good performance - it did exactly what it was supposed to do: engage the audience with some classics, and showcase a great new track from the new album. Vocals nicely done at the end of AFL, too. But my God, it's time to get the conditioner out Meat!

[SueL]

Err can we stop posting links to obviously mimed previous performances. It's pointless and it's easy to tell they were lip synced.

Shall I tell you a BIG clue which everyone seems to have missed? The earpiece in the ear. If he's got it in it's so he can hear himself so he's singing live. On Wetten Das the earpiece was in, on the old videos posted the earpiece wasn't in. I rest my case. So can everyone please stop now with this daft discussion.

That occurred to me too, Rob, but I was hesitant to post it because unfortunately, I felt sure that someone would have jumped on it as being part of the "staged" effect. :(

[BATOUTOFHEAVEN]

Impeccable? :??::D

Love that word, describes Meat's performance impeccably :-P

[Dave]

I could give two toots if the performance was "mimed," "lip synched," or "performed live" - it does not really matter. What I care about is Meat Loaf displayed a quality performance in front of a live studio and television audience. That's all that matters to me at the end of the day - frankly, that is all that matters to most people who watched the show. Were people entertained by the performance? Yes, it would seem so. Meat Loaf did his job as an entertainer.

[BATOUTOFHEAVEN]

I could give two toots if the performance was "mimed," "lip synched," or "performed live" - it does not really matter. What I care about is Meat Loaf displayed a quality performance in front of a live studio and television audience. That's all that matters to me at the end of the day - frankly, that is all that matters to most people who watched the show. Were people entertained by the performance? Yes, it would seem so. Meat Loaf did his job as an entertainer.

CHSIB :-) and I'm sure Meat would have told us if he was going to mime or lip-sync. (which he didn't)

[Steingirl]

This was an incredible performance. Everyone on stage did a wonderful job. I hope they perform this medley at future promo appearances.

[the meatpatti]

I could give two toots if the performance was "mimed," "lip synched," or "performed live" - it does not really matter. What I care about is Meat Loaf displayed a quality performance in front of a live studio and television audience. That's all that matters to me at the end of the day - frankly, that is all that matters to most people who watched the show. Were people entertained by the performance? Yes, it would seem so. Meat Loaf did his job as an entertainer.

:up: Totally agree! Who cares, if it was pre-recorded and lips synced or live - it was a great performance and very entertaining! :up:

[stretch37]

Meat definitely sounded fantastic!

[Sabine]

:up: Totally agree! Who cares, if it was pre-recorded and lips synced or live - it was a great performance and very entertaining! :up:

Yes and nothings else!!!

Sabine:D

[lyn]

I second that my dear :)

Priceless .. Thank you.



I suspect I have missed, ie fundamentally dis-agreed with, the way you have interpreted them

Caryl

Ozzy Loaf

Hmmmm, you spell Aussie this way And what you've implied with that statement.......well lets say that I'm leaving that alone Although, I'm not impressed with it

Just read all the posts from last night on this 'controversial' subject.
I was really giggling to myself at the intensity of everyone's views.
But, by the end of it all I was beginning to feel as though we are going round in circles.
As has been said before, just about everybody is in agreement that it was an excellent performance. And I really don't care either way about the "liveness" of it all.
Just one thing though, Rob. Perhaps the earpiece was just a fake prop to fool us?

Couldn't agree more with the fact that we all thought the performance was brilliant :)

I don't agree with the earpiece thing that Rob is going on about as sometimes, and I've noticed in the live performance of Meat with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, that artists such as Meat might remove the earpiece during a performance, but that doesn't indicate in any manner that he is lip synching.



Even if it was lip synced, it's still entirely possible that he would have used the earpiece. He still has to hear the song to know when to mime, and when you're on a stage like that, hearing what's going on isn't as easy as it sounds :P By that logic, what's the point of having the guitarist play the guitar when there's a backing track being used anyway?

I don't think it was lip synced, anyway. And that's because at the very start of Anything For Love, you can clearly see Paul reach up and retune the E string of his guitar down to drop D. If it was a backing track, that would have been 100% unnecessary, because it would have been impossible for anyone to tell the difference anyway.

*Ends daft discussion*

All that matters is that it was an awesome performance (regardless of whether it was lip synced or not) and we didn't have a repeat of the AFL. AND, on top of that, HiaHB charted well in Germany because of it

From one Aussie to another, bloody well said mate!!!!




That was a really good performance - it did exactly what it was supposed to do: engage the audience with some classics, and showcase a great new track from the new album. Vocals nicely done at the end of AFL, too. But my God, it's time to get the conditioner out Meat!

Couldn't have said it better ;) :)

Love that word, describes Meat's performance impeccably :-P

Bloody oath mate :D;):-)


I could give two toots if the performance was "mimed," "lip synched," or "performed live" - it does not really matter. What I care about is Meat Loaf displayed a quality performance in front of a live studio and television audience. That's all that matters to me at the end of the day - frankly, that is all that matters to most people who watched the show. Were people entertained by the performance? Yes, it would seem so. Meat Loaf did his job as an entertainer.

Second that :D

This was an incredible performance. Everyone on stage did a wonderful job. I hope they perform this medley at future promo appearances.

Simply awsome :D



And you were proven so right!!! ;)

The entire performance ROCKED, but ALL OF ME..... ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!! :D

MEAT ~ YOU WERE FABULOUS!!!

TRUE TO THAT!!!!!!! :D:D:D

[Ma.Ra]

My beef is that a lip-sync performance can't never be as good as a live performance (no matter which artist). Adding "medley" and the new song (in Meat's case) and my overall rating of the performance is really falling.
IMO the audience of Wetten Dass are mostly 40+ people as far as I know from a audience analyze. I don't know if this is really Meat's target market?
Besides the most stupid host, I really miss the German Top of The Pops. Afaik performance were there always live (please dont break some illusions ;))

I dont want to offend anyone. I am just a fan with an opinion.

[robgomm]

My beef is that a lip-sync performance can't never be as good as a live performance (no matter which artist). Adding "medley" and the new song (in Meat's case) and my overall rating of the performance is really falling.
IMO the audience of Wetten Dass are mostly 40+ people as far as I know from a audience analyze. I don't know if this is really Meat's target market?
Besides the most stupid host, I really miss the German Top of The Pops. Afaik performance were there always live (please dont break some illusions ;))

I dont want to offend anyone. I am just a fan with an opinion.

I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it :|

[Sarge]

IMO the audience of Wetten Dass are mostly 40+ people as far as I know from a audience analyze. I don't know if this is really Meat's target market?

Maybe it is, although I don't know whether it would be intentional or unintentional. If you want to reach a younger audience, you have to appear on one of the shows ZDF hides on their digital channel ZDFneo. That probably means less viewers, though.

By the way, I wonder why they put a YouTube video of the Wetten, dass..? performance on his official website but don't mention that the CD is out in Germany. :??: