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This two hour season premiere started off with the introductions of the mens team vs. the ladies team. Meat was saved for second to last for the men.
They were greeted by Donald Trump and the Rockettes at Radio City Music Hall. The contestants were instructed to come up with a team name and report to the board room for their task.
They break away to the guys choosing their names where Richard Hatch tried to reign in all the ideas but had his own in mind (he came with a list). Hatch quickly started to "take control" over everything. Gary Busey pitched some idea about Sperm Farmers which had me in stitches. And then I saw Meat laughing behind his hand, which made me laugh harder. The guys came up with the name Backbone. They unanimously chose a team leader as Richard Hatch. The ladies were seen collectively coming up with the name ASAP...and if you listen to La Toya Jackson you'd be all confused cause' she f*cked up the name multiple times. I'm still not sure what it all stands for but it is an acronym.
The first task is to run a pizza parlor for charity. Gary Busey was the Pepperoni Profit dressed in some get up with his hair sticking out like he stuck his finger in an electrical socket. Meat was shown doing prep work with Jose Conseco. Meat was prepping the dough and weighing it. While David Cassidy was on topping prep work. When the doors were open, Meat was stationed at the cash register. Collecting big money, giving a teary fan a nice bear hug, and getting excited for the cause. I think I spotted the blow up from the Casa tour (it was either Meat or Randy) on the sidewalk by the pizza parlor. The ladies were shown doing the same prep work along with Dionne Warwick trying desperately to work a credit card machine.
The ladies had a BIG sale of $40,000 which they executed but failed to make a $35,000 delivery to the fire house after winning the taste test by a Celebrity Chef (whose name is escaping me). The ladies got a little catty in the boardroom but that did not pale in comparison to Jose Conseco going after Richard Hatch who was physically bullying David Cassidy. The ladies ended up winning the task sending team Backbone to the boardroom. Donald asked each of the men who he should fire. Busey went first and stated Hatch...then Meat Loaf stated Richard...Conseco and others said Hatch. Hatch was asked to bring two others into the board room...he chose Conseco and Cassidy. Cassidy ultimately gets fired as Trump senses that he just didn't have the confidence to be a leader.
Next weeks episode previewed Meat Loaf being the project manager for the next task. The teaser has me saying "oh no" because Meat sends the team to the wrong place. YIKES! Then Meat states, I'm doing terrible. Just enough to make me worry all week long. LOL. I'm still not mentally ready to "see" Meat cry, but I know it's coming. Kleenex are standing by.
That is the show as a recap. My take on Meat's participation. I've seen this show before and Meat is playing the smart card. He is liked by the other team members. But he's quiet and letting others blow up. You could see he was laughing in his collar. When things got heated in the board room, you can see him shift in his chair and scratch the back of his ear AS IF saying, I'm not involved in all that. There was nothing to incriminate Meat's image. It was all fine. Edits or whatever, Meat's integrity is totally intact.
Gary Busey was hilarious but I can see how he could get under skin. I like Lil' Jon too.
Suzieq
JaysScout
07 Mar 2011, 07:24
Great review Suzanne! I too enjoyed watching Meat "lay low" while the squabbling was going on. However, from watching some of the preview clips, we know we will see some passion in the coming weeks! :) The very brief shot of Meat starting to talk about his charity, The Painted Turtle, showed him choking up a little. No surprise there. Genuine people are a pleasure to watch.
Yeah, thank you so much Suzie. A geat review, sounds like it was a great show. What a shame David Cassidy got fired so early on. I thought he might because he was picked up for drink driving in Florida a couple of days after those clips from the pizza shop were shown.
Carole
BostonAngel
07 Mar 2011, 08:50
That was an awesome review Suzie! Chef's name is Curtis Stone. And I laughed hysterically when I saw the blow up doll from the Casa tour in front of the pizza place. I thought it loooked more like the Randy one. Vicki would probably know the answer! Will have to rewatch it to see.
So excited that Meat is the next Project Manager! TV Guide Magazine has the description of next weeks, March 13th, episode as: "The stars pen a book for kids, then perform it. But one project manager fails to unite a team." I think Meat will do well on this task. Think of the Bookaboo appearance. It is the Project Manager's charity that gets the money for the winning team. Since Meat said that he won alot of money for The Painted Turtle, I am guessing that Meat leads the guys team to victory next week! I am hoping anyway.
Great Review of the show Suzie Q!
I think Meat will do just fine as project manager. I read something about they have to write a children's book...and read it to children.
I'm thinking Meat may be using his "lamb voice"...LMAO...hilarious moment from a previous show at REH with Cindy!
Can't wait for next weeks show!
Great Job MEAT!!!
Battybarb
07 Mar 2011, 10:50
Great review thanks Suzie,sounds like brilliant show
Thanks Suzie for a brilliant recap :) (ASAP means As Soon As Possible btw)
Go Backbone, go Meat!! :)
Caryl
The women were using the ASAP acronym for something else...they couldn't get it right when they were asked by Donald Trump what it stood for...and neither can I !! (and I watched it twice..lol) Something about, actresses, singers, professionals...I might have to look again later to be certain :)
Kar
That was an awesome review Suzie! Chef's name is Curtis Stone. And I laughed hysterically when I saw the blow up doll from the Casa tour in front of the pizza place. I thought it loooked more like the Randy one. Vicki would probably know the answer! Will have to rewatch it to see.
So excited that Meat is the next Project Manager! TV Guide Magazine has the description of next weeks, March 13th, episode as: "The stars pen a book for kids, then perform it. But one project manager fails to unite a team." I think Meat will do well on this task. Think of the Bookaboo appearance. It is the Project Manager's charity that gets the money for the winning team. Since Meat said that he won alot of money for The Painted Turtle, I am guessing that Meat leads the guys team to victory next week! I am hoping anyway.
Yeah, Curtis Stone is an Aussie, he's very famous here. He was on last year's Celebrity Apprentice and always appears on Oprah's show. He cooked for her and her guests when she came here last year. That sounds right up Meat's alley, the children's book, considering how well he did on Bookaboo last year. Yeah, let's hope Meat's team won.
Carole
will this link work for out of US peeps???
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvideobb.com%2Fvideo%2FsKwkh2VEhXKU&h=42aa3
So after a bit of sleep I realized I spelled Jose Canseco's name wrong. Dumb ass me!
duke knooby
07 Mar 2011, 14:50
will this link work for out of US peeps???
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvideobb.com%2Fvideo%2FsKwkh2VEhXKU&h=42aa3
it works in ze uk :D
thank you very much for thee link
Thanks for posting the link and the great recap Suzie :))
I'm already looking forward to next Sunday night !!
I can't remember what ASAP stood for either, but poor LaToya was really nervous and tongue-tied :lol:
That was an awesome review Suzie! Chef's name is Curtis Stone. And I laughed hysterically when I saw the blow up doll from the Casa tour in front of the pizza place. I thought it loooked more like the Randy one. Vicki would probably know the answer! Will have to rewatch it to see.
So excited that Meat is the next Project Manager! TV Guide Magazine has the description of next weeks, March 13th, episode as: "The stars pen a book for kids, then perform it. But one project manager fails to unite a team." I think Meat will do well on this task. Think of the Bookaboo appearance. It is the Project Manager's charity that gets the money for the winning team. Since Meat said that he won alot of money for The Painted Turtle, I am guessing that Meat leads the guys team to victory next week! I am hoping anyway.
Yes, I think it was the Randy one :-)
Fingers crossed for Team Backbone next week :)) :cheer:
Yes, it works in germany too!!!!!
Thanks a lot!!!!!
Thanks Suzie, you've made my day! :D
Thanks Suzie for a brilliant recap :) (ASAP means As Soon As Possible btw)
For the Team Name, A.S.A.P. stands for Artists, Singers, Authors and Professionals with a Purpose. LaToya butchered it...hilarious. :-)
glamourgirl
07 Mar 2011, 17:37
Thanks for posting the link and the great recap Suzie :))
I'm already looking forward to next Sunday night !!
I can't remember what ASAP stood for either, but poor LaToya was really nervous and tongue-tied :lol:
I think it was Artists, Singers, Authors, Professionals for a Purpose. LaToya got me confused too. :lol:
Meat did a great job and I'm really looking forward to next week. Great summary, Suzie.
Glad to help everyone! Thank you for the kind words about my recap.
duke knooby
07 Mar 2011, 19:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZknGvBBH41U
Have just watched the show and it was great - very entertaining! Meat remained pretty much in the background in this first episode, but I can't wait to see him shine - which we know he is gonna do in the weeks to come. Thanks again to Suzie for posting the link.
glamourgirl
07 Mar 2011, 20:22
Thanks for the video link, duke.
It was an interesting episode, sometimes riveting and often funny! I can't help but feel manipulated when I watch a "reality" show, because it's the producer's job to filter what I see for the sake of ratings. He'd be crazy not to. So last night, when I found myself loving to hate Richard Hatch, I appreciated it when Trump asked the other men "Who would you fire?" The fact that three replied "Richard" made me feel like I was being shown something at least close to the truth.
Silly question: Why did it take three women to deliver the pizzas? I could have done it by myself :)
I'm already looking forward to next Sunday! But I won't need any "closure" about Meat and Gary, because I'm not sitting in judgment on either of them, except in the small context of how their actions may have affected their team's chances of winning. The way I see it, Gary did something that honked Meat off, Meat got mad and reacted, and that's that. Whether we see it next week or later on, learning the details won't change my appreciation of the passionate honesty of the moment.
-Kathy
Smithie
07 Mar 2011, 22:36
I enjoyed the episode. Meat is already playing the game very cleverly.
Good play to keep quiet at first...
BostonAngel
07 Mar 2011, 23:13
Have just watched the show and it was great - very entertaining! Meat remained pretty much in the background in this first episode, but I can't wait to see him shine - which we know he is gonna do in the weeks to come. Thanks again to Suzie for posting the link.
Have watched all 3 prior seasons of Celebrity Apprentice. I remember last season on one of the first tasks, Bret Michaels was very much in the background - he end up sweeping floors! He laid low for the first few tasks then really hit is stride. He ended up winning in the end! Meat seems to be using somewhat the same strategy and hopefully will have the same result
Smithie
07 Mar 2011, 23:47
Good play to keep quiet at first...
My thoughts exactly. Very smart move.
Evil One
08 Mar 2011, 00:51
Silly question: Why did it take three women to deliver the pizzas? I could have done it by myself :)If it's anything like the UK one then it's part of the (unseen) rules that the teams have to play by. There is only enough recording equipment for each team to split into two, and the number of people on each subteam has to be roughly even, which is why you see ridiculous things like four people going off to pick something up. :twisted:
It was an interesting episode, sometimes riveting and often funny! I can't help but feel manipulated when I watch a "reality" show, because it's the producer's job to filter what I see for the sake of ratings. He'd be crazy not to. So last night, when I found myself loving to hate Richard Hatch, I appreciated it when Trump asked the other men "Who would you fire?" The fact that three replied "Richard" made me feel like I was being shown something at least close to the truth.
Silly question: Why did it take three women to deliver the pizzas? I could have done it by myself :)
I'm already looking forward to next Sunday! But I won't need any "closure" about Meat and Gary, because I'm not sitting in judgment on either of them, except in the small context of how their actions may have affected their team's chances of winning. The way I see it, Gary did something that honked Meat off, Meat got mad and reacted, and that's that. Whether we see it next week or later on, learning the details won't change my appreciation of the passionate honesty of the moment.
-Kathy
Very well said Kathy :-)
Here are some pics from the Celebrity Apprentice premiere party in Nashville, TN last night :
http://wireimage.com/SearchResults.aspx?igi=487654&s=Meat%20Loaf&sfld=C&vwmd=e
BostonAngel
08 Mar 2011, 02:58
Here are some pics from the Celebrity Apprentice premiere party in Nashville, TN last night :
http://wireimage.com/SearchResults.aspx?igi=487654&s=Meat%20Loaf&sfld=C&vwmd=e Love them all! Thank you Vicki. You alway find the best Meaty stuff
Love them all! Thank you Vicki. You alway find the best Meaty stuff
You're welcome Cathy :)) Thanks .. I just love finding and sharing the Meaty goodies :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZknGvBBH41U
Thanks for posting the link :))
Thanks so much for the link Suzie!! (I'd caution against signing up for the howtowatchnbc.info link given on the other apprentice thread btw. I did, paid my money, and 24 hours later am still waiting for details on how to watch the programme) I let the free one buffer away yesterday afternoon, and then watched the programme last night. I'm not sure what added value the Trump offspring bring to the proceedings (but then I'm used to Margaret and Nick in the UK, with their acute observations and pithy comment, who stay with their teams throughout the proceedings), and was surprised to see little evidence of them observing during the two day task, just popping in a couple of times.
Thoroughly enjoyed watching Meat's participation in the task and his wholehearted effort as he threw himself into whatever task he was doing. In the boardroom he was shrewd, only commenting on what went on when asked, and was clear and non emotive when asked to comment on Richard Hatch's leadership style, and when asked to say who he would fire. Playing a cautious and quiet game in the boardroom is wise .. also he seemed to me to be distancing himself from the strife Trump encourages perhaps because imo his style is more to deal with issues at the time, get past them and refocus on the job, rather than carp behind the scenes and then bicker in the boardroom.
I'd never heard of Hatch .. actually wouldn't have recognised quite a few if they'd knocked on my door :-) And it took me a while to realise that the face like a Siamese cat in a windtunnel belonged to David Cassidy! I think Hatch, like many, construes "leadership" as controlling, and whilst I know the programme is edited, I saw no shred of motivating in his style which I thought overbearing and rather bullying, setting himself apart from his team, and barking orders. Despite editing I think you can tell a lot from what individuals include in their talk to camera! He was quick to blame those who hadn't managed to call in support, but how much effort and encouragement did he give to them I wonder? We didn't see much of the preparations before they went to the pizza parlours (I hope we see more of the "before" in future programmes, because that tells you more than their work on the day) but can't help feel that if he had shown more true leadership skill at that stage he'd have been quick to point it out!
The success of the women's team was largely down to their calling in bigger and better favours. Star was the winning leader because of her team rather than down to her skill imo. She brought in the huge $40K donation, but was blinded by that to such an extent she missed out on the one that got away, and predictably shuffled off accountability to Lisa. Do the rules prevent any flexibility in achieving the task? There were team members standing in a closed pizza parlour while a delivery truck was stuck in traffic, unable to get to both destinations. Someone could have walked the distance quicker .. but the team leader was too focused on her $40K. I liked both Lisa and Marlee (the latter being one I recognised ;) ) .. two to watch.
If ever there was a case for firing the leader of the losing team this was it imo .. but I guess Trump thinks Hatch will be good TV, and Cassidy didn't make a hugely impressive showing, particularly in the boardroom, where Trump obviously likes to see people robustly defending themselves. (Meat may keep out of the general boardroom brawling, but I think we can rely on a robust defence if he's attacked ;) ). Jose is like an active volcano imo .. big, rumbling beneath the surface, and ready to erupt. Meat was focused, hardworking, and his presence was a real pull in the parlour during the task, and his strategy impeccable in the boardroom. I'm really looking forward to seeing him lead hs team next week :-)
Caryl
Julie in the rv mirror
08 Mar 2011, 18:40
Star was the winning leader because of her team rather than down to her skill imo. She brought in the huge $40K donation, but was blinded by that to such an extent she missed out on the one that got away, and predictably shuffled off accountability to Lisa.
A good leader also knows how to delegate, not necessarily does the tasks themselves. I don't think Star was spectacular, but I don't think she was bad, either. She didn't know how large the donation was from the firehouse, and I think she was right to focus on the $40K, which she knew she had coming. I agree with her that she probably couldn't have made anywhere near that much in the store, though I'm not sure I agree with her decision to close it, particularly once the $40K donor agreed to take only one pizza. I'm not liking Lisa much right now- she seems two-faced and whiny to me (prior to this show, I had no opinion of her either way).
If ever there was a case for firing the leader of the losing team this was it imo .. but I guess Trump thinks Hatch will be good TV, and Cassidy didn't make a hugely impressive showing, particularly in the boardroom, where Trump obviously likes to see people robustly defending themselves. (Meat may keep out of the general boardroom brawling, but I think we can rely on a robust defence if he's attacked ;) )
I don't think Richard Hatch will win Mr. Congeniality, but he's very shrewd- he couldn't have won Survivor otherwise. I think he will make good TV, but I also agree with Trump that at least Hatch will be a strong competitor, even if he isn't well-liked. I hated to see David leave over Hatch, but he really didn't defend himself much at all. I agree with you that I don't think Meat would have that problem. ;)
Donald Trump is known for running a "gentleman's club" style boardroom. There are many reports of temper flares and verbal throw downs on a regular basis in the presence and from The Donald. I found it interesting that Donald Trump chose to play off his unabashed love for machismo dynamic so much in allowing the trouncing of David Cassidy during the boardroom meeting. It was fascinating that with all the American media focus on anti-bullying and suicide prevention, that the reality of the American executive boardroom power play was allowed to be aired so unfiltered. Bravo to The Donald for showing that to be successful in the business world, you must have a "Backbone" and not whine and complain about the shortcomings of others. Yes, the American version of The Apprentice is very, well "Americanized" but you cannot really expect anything different. The Donald has once again illustrated his superb ability to know what "works" and what doesn't work in "Corporate America" today. The boardroom is a nasty place and thankfully has been portrayed as such without rose tinted lens.
A good leader also knows how to delegate, not necessarily does the tasks themselves. I don't think Star was spectacular, but I don't think she was bad, either. She didn't know how large the donation was from the firehouse, and I think she was right to focus on the $40K, which she knew she had coming. I agree with her that she probably couldn't have made anywhere near that much in the store, though I'm not sure I agree with her decision to close it, particularly once the $40K donor agreed to take only one pizza. I'm not liking Lisa much right now- she seems two-faced and whiny to me (prior to this show, I had no opinion of her either way).
I don't think Richard Hatch will win Mr. Congeniality, but he's very shrewd- he couldn't have won Survivor otherwise. I think he will make good TV, but I also agree with Trump that at least Hatch will be a strong competitor, even if he isn't well-liked. I hated to see David leave over Hatch, but he really didn't defend himself much at all. I agree with you that I don't think Meat would have that problem. ;)
That's how I see it too, Julie.
A good leader also knows how to delegate, not necessarily does the tasks themselves.
Absolutely .. (although good delegation isn't simply a case of barking orders like Hatch ;) .. and in short-term projects a good leader will often help out with delivery where there's a problem as long as he/she can see that other areas are coping well) .. But when you delegate you pass on responsibility, not accountability; that's something that continues to rest with the leader. If you delegate and the person fails to deliver it's usually your head on the block ultimately as the manager who chose what to delegate and to whom.
Caryl
Donald Trump is known for running a "gentleman's club" style boardroom. There are many reports of temper flares and verbal throw downs on a regular basis in the presence and from The Donald. I found it interesting that Donald Trump chose to play off his unabashed love for machismo dynamic so much in allowing the trouncing of David Cassidy during the boardroom meeting. It was fascinating that with all the American media focus on anti-bullying and suicide prevention, that the reality of the American executive boardroom power play was allowed to be aired so unfiltered. Bravo to The Donald for showing that to be successful in the business world, you must have a "Backbone" and not whine and complain about the shortcomings of others. Yes, the American version of The Apprentice is very, well "Americanized" but you cannot really expect anything different. The Donald has once again illustrated his superb ability to know what "works" and what doesn't work in "Corporate America" today. The boardroom is a nasty place and thankfully has been portrayed as such without rose tinted lens.
I absolutely agree with you Dave :-)
JaysScout
08 Mar 2011, 22:23
I, like most everyone on here, certainly hope Meat wins. First, he's a good guy....and second, I'd like to see him raise as much as he can for The Painted Turtle. It was nice to read in a prior post that Meat said he did do very well for his favorite charity. My wife and I were fortunate to get to see Meat backstage in Dover, DE in January. Since I work in profession baseball, I thought it would be cool to have Meat and the NLE sign a couple of bats for me. Meat did one alone, and he and the NLE did the other. Selfishly, I have kept the one signed by everyone. :) However, I shipped the other to my daughter in Houston, TX. She is a director at a YMCA there and can auction it off to raise $ to send kids to summer camp. Knowing how civic minded Meat is, I sent him an e-mail informing him of what I was doing with the bat, and told him that whatever amount was raised for the YMCA from his bat, my wife and I would make an equal donation to The Painted Turtle. If anyone is looking for a worthwhile charity, please check the website for The Painted Turtle. www.thepaintedturtle.org/turtle.
Thanks so much for the link Suzie, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I did feel sorry for David and the way Hatch treated him. He behaved similarly on Survivor, shoving one of the female contestants during one of the challenges. And like Donald said, he wouldn't have dared to shove that baseball player, or even Meat but David was an easy target. I wanted to punch him in the face!!!!!! Really looking forward to seeing Meat as Project Manager, he will be a great leader.
Carole
I, like most everyone on here, certainly hope Meat wins. First, he's a good guy....and second, I'd like to see him raise as much as he can for The Painted Turtle. It was nice to read in a prior post that Meat said he did do very well for his favorite charity. My wife and I were fortunate to get to see Meat backstage in Dover, DE in January. Since I work in profession baseball, I thought it would be cool to have Meat and the NLE sign a couple of bats for me. Meat did one alone, and he and the NLE did the other. Selfishly, I have kept the one signed by everyone. :) However, I shipped the other to my daughter in Houston, TX. She is a director at a YMCA there and can auction it off to raise $ to send kids to summer camp. Knowing how civic minded Meat is, I sent him an e-mail informing him of what I was doing with the bat, and told him that whatever amount was raised for the YMCA from his bat, my wife and I would make an equal donation to The Painted Turtle. If anyone is looking for a worthwhile charity, please check the website for The Painted Turtle. www.thepaintedturtle.org/turtle.
What an amazing story .... thanks for sharing it :-)
I truly hope that you and your daughter can raise a lot of money for such worthy causes.
I'm sure your message (and generosity) made Meat very happy.
And thanks for posting the link to the Painted Turtle's website .. I really need to check it out again :-)
Here's a bonus scene from the boardroom that was posted on Twitter, hope the link works. And I agree with Meat, he is the biggest celebrity there!!!!!
http://bit.ly/ezPYOB
Carole
Julie in the rv mirror
09 Mar 2011, 01:05
Absolutely .. (although good delegation isn't simply a case of barking orders like Hatch ;) .. and in short-term projects a good leader will often help out with delivery where there's a problem as long as he/she can see that other areas are coping well) ..
You're right, and I wasn't implying that Hatch would make a good leader, necessarily. (It's interesting to note, though, that the men chose him unanimously without any hesitation.) I'm no huge fan of Star's, either, but in her defense, she did do as you describe when she tried (very tactfully) to take over when Dionne Warwick was struggling with the cash register, and Dionne shut her down. How would it have looked if Star shoved her way in at that point?
I wasn't aware of the rule that was mentioned earlier about sub-teams being equal, but that would explain why Star couldn't send out another delivery person/ team.
But when you delegate you pass on responsibility, not accountability; that's something that continues to rest with the leader. If you delegate and the person fails to deliver it's usually your head on the block ultimately as the manager who chose what to delegate and to whom.
True, also, and had the women lost, maybe Star would have been in the boardroom as well. But, you can't totally absolve the person(s) entrusted with a task from all accountability, either- otherwise, what is their motivation to do a good job?
Just watched the first episode (big screen thanks to Mr K :)) ) and got to say I loved it, really entertaining and interesting to see Meat in a very different role, not being boss ;) He really did a great job and looking forward to seeing what's to come :up:
However, what I really did not like about the show was the expectation of the contestants to "cash in" on their celebrity friends and relatives to raise money. Constantly through the show it was "well you're famous, you have the contacts, why didn't you raise more money?" which I think is hideous, and actually massive credit to Meat for not standing in front of the camera and participating on what appeared to be a pi$$ing contest over who has the richest friends. Inevitably Meat has many, many contacts, but surely they're irrelevant to this process?!
Obviously I wasn't there on the day, I have no idea if Meat made calls and got people down there - Steinman and half of Anthrax could have been in that pizza place for all I know - but if he did it was done in a dignified, appropriate way, as opposed to the show-boating from some of the others. :?
Just watched the first episode (big screen thanks to Mr K :)) ) and got to say I loved it, really entertaining and interesting to see Meat in a very different role, not being boss ;) He really did a great job and looking forward to seeing what's to come :up:
However, what I really did not like about the show was the expectation of the contestants to "cash in" on their celebrity friends and relatives to raise money. Constantly through the show it was "well you're famous, you have the contacts, why didn't you raise more money?" which I think is hideous, and actually massive credit to Meat for not standing in front of the camera and participating on what appeared to be a pi$$ing contest over who has the richest friends. Inevitably Meat has many, many contacts, but surely they're irrelevant to this process?!
Obviously I wasn't there on the day, I have no idea if Meat made calls and got people down there - Steinman and half of Anthrax could have been in that pizza place for all I know - but if he did it was done in a dignified, appropriate way, as opposed to the show-boating from some of the others. :?
Very good points Lucy. To add, I was thinking along the lines of "why" would they call in favors "For" the other team manager if that could be your ace in the hole when "they themselves" are project managers. You can see Meat shake his head "yes" when Trump even brought up the point to David Cassidy. But I agree, I'm pretty sure Meat had a few choice phone calls/emails ;) made but it wasn't showcased as a spectacle...but credit was given where credit was due.
The day before the pizza sale was when they called in as many favours and rustled up as much support as they could. It was a strategy adopted by each team, and there was a brief shot of Meat on the phone doing his bit. To me it's part of what being on Celeb App is about, and how it differs from the basic programme. They're in competition, but principally they're wanting to each raise the most money to win for their charity, so to use your contacts and your name to do this seems to me to be perfectly acceptable, and in line with what good celebrities do to raise money for causes, because that was what they were about. I liked the way Meat spotted a black credit card and said "Hey, you've got a back card! .. you can ...." and got a good donation for that sale ;)
I didn't see it as a pissing contest .. more a case of using your contacts, your networks, and it was always going to be the deciding factor .. there's only so many pizzas you can sell in a day, and if you can get donations for them, so much the better. Any pissing was engineered in the boardroom imo for dramatic effect, although I think Trump made a fair point in identifying that this was where the task was won or lost, and I wondered why Jose had not made contact with Yankees players who he said he did know.
Caryl
I wondered why Jose had not made contact with Yankees players who he said he did know.
I don't know the exact details, but there was something in the programme about Jose not being welcomed in the baseball fraternity anymore, I think it was something to do with his book. I'm sure when America wakes up they'll fill us in.
Pissing contest or not, Meat just quietly got on with the tasks in hand without too much showboating, which is the ideal strategy for the first week in Apprentice I think. Gives you time to work out the characters of those around you, don't make any immediate enemies and don't get too much focus from Donald Trump straight away. It's pretty clear that Richard, Jose, Star and Lisa will all have their cards marked and Donald Trump will be watching their progress over the next few weeks.
Project manager in even the second task is a risky strategy as you're still working out the characters around you, got to hope it pays off for Meat.
I don't know the exact details, but there was something in the programme about Jose not being welcomed in the baseball fraternity anymore, I think it was something to do with his book. I'm sure when America wakes up they'll fill us in.
Never sabotage your networks eh? ;)
Pissing contest or not, Meat just quietly got on with the tasks in hand without too much showboating, which is the ideal strategy for the first week in Apprentice I think. Gives you time to work out the characters of those around you, don't make any immediate enemies and don't get too much focus from Donald Trump straight away. It's pretty clear that Richard, Jose, Star and Lisa will all have their cards marked and Donald Trump will be watching their progress over the next few weeks.
Yes. Julie pointed out that all the men had voted for Hatch without hesitation .. smart move imo ;) He must have seemed to have sufficient dynamism to give them a chance, and it's very wise to avoid being the first man in!
Second in can be risky .. but also shows you are keen to be a player, and Meat's not averse to putting himself on the line :-) Sometimes I think batting second is a smartway to go. You have some feel for the people in the team (and later the teams may suddenly get re-mixed because of surviving numbers) and at the same time you show you're not hiding! Plus the task would seem to be one which could appeal, and play to some of Meat's strengths. Meat said he won a lot of money for his charity during the programme. I hope next week is the start .. and just the start ;)
Caryl
I don't know the exact details, but there was something in the programme about Jose not being welcomed in the baseball fraternity anymore, I think it was something to do with his book. I'm sure when America wakes up they'll fill us in.
Well, when you are called in front of Congress and lie that you did not take steriods, then get called to the carpet, write a tell all book where you oust your teammates...yeah, a problem could arise.
However, what I really did not like about the show was the expectation of the contestants to "cash in" on their celebrity friends and relatives to raise money. Constantly through the show it was "well you're famous, you have the contacts, why didn't you raise more money?" which I think is hideous, and actually massive credit to Meat for not standing in front of the camera and participating on what appeared to be a pi$$ing contest over who has the richest friends. Inevitably Meat has many, many contacts, but surely they're irrelevant to this process?!
It is very much an "American" thing. I have participated in this type of fund raising myself. I am a "local celebrity" thanks to hosting Rocky Horror; therefore, every year I know the local Rely For Life (cancer charity) will be calling on me to use my "fame" to help raise money. They do a "jail" where they come around and "arrest" you. You are held, usually in a conference room somewhere, until you get get friends/family to pledge a certain amount of money for the charity to "pay your bail" then you are set free. I have to use my connections to get out, or sit in a hotel ball room all day.
Smithie
09 Mar 2011, 23:33
But I agree, I'm pretty sure Meat had a few choice phone calls/emails ;) made but it wasn't showcased as a spectacle...but credit was given where credit was due.
I think at one point in the show it was said that Meat, Lil Jon, and John Rich brought in a lot of money for the task.
BostonAngel
09 Mar 2011, 23:42
I think at one point in the show it was said that Meat, Lil Jon, and John Rich brought in a lot of money for the task.
I will just have to watch it again to verify that!
Smithie
09 Mar 2011, 23:45
I will just have to watch it again to verify that!
Please do, Cathy. I think it was said while they were selling at the pizza parlor. Meat just didn't flaunt it like some of the others did.
I think at one point in the show it was said that Meat, Lil Jon, and John Rich brought in a lot of money for the task.
Yeah it was stated, Meat also clearly did a good job of upselling whilst at the till in the store.
I know a few people who actually made it to buy pizzas from Team Backbone. I know one donated a hefty sum and another one had bought two slices of pie and two cokes, which would have been $20, they haded Meat a $50, and Meat said "you really dont want change do you?" So yeah, a lot of upsales were going on!
BostonAngel
10 Mar 2011, 03:24
I know a few people who actually made it to buy pizzas from Team Backbone. I know one donated a hefty sum and another one had bought two slices of pie and two cokes, which would have been $20, they haded Meat a $50, and Meat said "you really dont want change do you?" So yeah, a lot of upsales were going on!
Like you Dave, I know of several people that made it there to buy pizza. They went just to support Meat. Didn't make a big deal out of it, just it did. It just didn't make it into the show. I think he did raise quite a bit of money just by his presence. It was done quietly and without a huge fuss, exactly Meat's style
The "Fat Terminator" that was behind Curtis Stone was none other than Boss Award winner Bill Brennan...Rocky Horror legend. So glad he got air time. He has worked so hard and always has such amazing things to say about Meat Loaf. He was at the Waverly the night Meat & Tim tried to sneak into the show. Great first hand stories.
BostonAngel
10 Mar 2011, 06:29
This is kinda Celebrity Apprentice related and Rocky Horror related. Lou Adler who produced The Rocky Horror Picture Show and his wife Page are co-founders of The Painted Turtle, the charity that Meat is playing for. OF course we know Meat was also in RHPS. Paul Newman was also another one of the co-founders of The Painted Turtle. It's like six degrees of separation - Meat, Rocky Horror, Lou Adler, The Painted Turtle, Celebrity Apprentice - which gets me back on topic!
stretch37
10 Mar 2011, 06:59
I know this has nothing to do with this discussion so far, but after looking at the pictures from the cast party, I wonder what Meat performed that night ?
Julie in the rv mirror
10 Mar 2011, 07:53
I know one donated a hefty sum and another one had bought two slices of pie and two cokes, which would have been $20, they haded Meat a $50, and Meat said "you really dont want change do you?"
I would have said, "Yep- I sure do!" :twisted:
To me it's part of what being on Celeb App is about, and how it differs from the basic programme. They're in competition, but principally they're wanting to each raise the most money to win for their charity, so to use your contacts and your name to do this seems to me to be perfectly acceptable, and in line with what good celebrities do to raise money for causes, because that was what they were about.
I agree, I think it's what celebrities do all the time. I don't see anything wrong with it.
I also think it's a good strategy to stay back at first and observe, to kind of get a feel for the other contestants, and try not to make enemies too soon. ;)
I also think it's a good strategy to stay back at first and observe, to kind of get a feel for the other contestants, and try not to make enemies too soon. ;)
Exactly ;)
Evil One
10 Mar 2011, 20:04
I also think it's a good strategy to stay back at first and observe, to kind of get a feel for the other contestants, and try not to make enemies too soon. ;)That strategy doesn't always work in the UK version though. There are times Alan Sugar has fired someone for being in the background. In fact my main criticism of the show is Lord Sugar's bizarre choices for keeping/firing contestants. :twisted:
Thought you'd have been cynical enough to realise that the firing/keeping choices are heavily influenced by who makes good TV and who doesn't?
Evil One
10 Mar 2011, 21:09
I realise that, but even so some of his decisions are odd.
duke knooby
10 Mar 2011, 21:28
Lord Kalms is my business hero :D
I know this has nothing to do with this discussion so far, but after looking at the pictures from the cast party, I wonder what Meat performed that night ?
I just read in an article that he sang Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad and then Johnny Be Goode :-)
I read that John Rich, referring to Meat in his video update, says “You know what, he probably is the biggest star on the men’s team,” adding “He’s one of the biggest stars in the world, music and Broadway and movies. It was a true honor to be sitting in a room with Meat Loaf, much less (I think he means "let alone" .. lol) to become friends with him.”
He also says that in tonight's episode Meat Loaf “steps up to the plate” and blows everyone away with his abilities to direct and to make a vision come to reality. :D
Caryl
Monstro
13 Mar 2011, 12:36
Watching it but tbh I'm finding it tough going, not really a lover of these type of shows but OMG and I mean OMG, Trump has got to be raising a shed load of money for charity with that combover
Watching it but tbh I'm finding it tough going, not really a lover of these type of shows but OMG and I mean OMG, Trump has got to be raising a shed load of money for charity with that combover
:lmao: Awful, isn't it? (the combover I mean, not the show)!
:lmao: Awful, isn't it? (the combover I mean, not the show)!
Yeah it is, but it's become his trademark now.
Carole
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