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Wario
01 Jul 2010, 03:57
My Review:

This is Meat's best non Bat Album, and certainly the best of his 80's stuff.


Bad Attitude: My actual least favorite song on the album. But is still a very fair rocker with roger.
Modern Girl: Very rocky, awesome guitar solo, great chorus. The definition of Meat in the 80's. Should've been a bigger hit.
Nowhere Fast: This was a great little rocker. Excellent chorus. Guitar work is top notch
Surfs Up: Beautiful in every way. Prefer the UK version with loud percussion.
Jumpin the Gun: Fun little duet. Nothing special, but it does its job and gives a rocker in between two breath-taking ballads.
Piece of the Action: One of Meat's finest ballads. Its a crime this wasn't a hit.
Sailor to a Siren: Excellent vocals and charming lyrics. The instrumentation has always been Iffy with me, but the chorus kicks ass.
Dont Leave Your Mark On Me: Overkill on the eco effects. Great, dark, powerful song otherwise.
Cheating in your Dreams: About a husband/boyfriend who kills/seriously injures his wife outta rage. Dark stuff. It suceeded in being epic win.
Take a Number: Lets just say its great this was cut from the album.


Overall: 9.5/10 (not including Take a Number)

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NOW YOU REVIEW THIS ALBUM :cool:

Evil One
01 Jul 2010, 15:19
It's the only Meat Loaf album (along with MATLAF maybe) that got stuck in the time it was made.
I think Bad Attitude sounds very 80's too.

madagascar
01 Jul 2010, 15:42
I think Bad Attitude sounds very 80's too.

Right, that horrible drum sound and all that weird 'sounds' in the beginning really makes me skip one of Jim's best songs.

Sarge
01 Jul 2010, 16:00
I think Bad Attitude sounds very 80's too.

Right, though I think the U.S. release sounds a little better than the European version.

Wario
01 Jul 2010, 16:01
Right, though I think the U.S. release sounds a little better than the European version.

it does. The us version is what meat originally intended it to be. Surfs Up is the major difference between versions.

AndyK
01 Jul 2010, 16:25
it does. The us version is what meat originally intended it to be.

Not quite.

The US version is a remixed version of the original UK/Europe release with a limited number of additional musical parts recorded for some of the tracks, it's still quite a long way off what Meat and the band would have been truly happy with.

AndrewG
01 Jul 2010, 16:39
Interesting. I never knew that about the US version.

Wario
01 Jul 2010, 16:45
Not quite.

The US version is a remixed version of the original UK/Europe release with a limited number of additional musical parts recorded for some of the tracks, it's still quite a long way off what Meat and the band would have been truly happy with.

Think he wanted it to sound like HCTB in 1984

Evil One
01 Jul 2010, 16:56
I think if Meat got his way all of his albums would sound like HCTB. He's a guitar person, not a piano person. The US version is miles better than the UK one. For those who've never heard it, Modern Girl on the VBO is from the US version.

youngJB
01 Jul 2010, 18:38
I've only ever heard the UK version (though I'm from the US), but here's what I think...

1 - Bad Attitude -- 9/10 -- Love this song. Just an epic, quick rock song.
2 - Modern Girl -- 10/10 -- The extended version with string arrangements was even better, but this overall is definitely my favorite 80s Meat song.
3 - Nowhere Fast -- 9/10 -- The only thing I don't like about this one is the synth drums. Aside from that, it gets really epic.
4 - Surf's Up -- 10/10 -- Just a staggering song. Jim's arrangement on Bad For Good was better, but Meat sounds amazing on this one.
5 - Piece of the Action -- 9/10 -- It took me a while, but this one's really grown on me. Awesome opening.
6 - Jumpin' the Gun -- 8/10 -- Another quick rock song. Nothing much sticks out about it, but it's really catchy.
7 - Cheatin' in Your Dreams -- 9/10 -- Another great opening. Excellent song.
8 - Don't Leave Your Mark On Me -- 8/10 -- Strange, but really cool.
9 - Sailor to a Siren -- 10/10 -- Excellent finish to the album. Really great way to end with a bang.

Overall, I'd give this a 9/10. Probably tied for me with Dead Ringer. Just an epic 40 minutes of unrelentless awesome.

jbk
01 Jul 2010, 19:12
I liked rpm. The true tragedy was the loss of Wells Kelly. Seemed like a very good drummer. Overall a 9/10 album.:D

Evil One
01 Jul 2010, 19:24
RPM was from BBIS. The B side for Bad Attitude was the rather poor Take A Number.

madagascar
01 Jul 2010, 19:49
RPM was from BBIS. The B side for Bad Attitude was the rather poor Take A Number.

RPM? What's that?

AndyK
01 Jul 2010, 20:18
RPM Revolution Per Minute, the B side to the single release of Rock And Roll Mercenaries.

Evil One
01 Jul 2010, 20:19
A B-side from BBIS. It sounds very similar to Blind Before I Stop, although not as good (hence it being a B-side I guess)

madagascar
02 Jul 2010, 00:23
RPM Revolution Per Minute, the B side to the single release of Rock And Roll Mercenaries.

Ah, thx, is it on youtube or anywhere else availabe?

Wario
02 Jul 2010, 00:33
Ah, thx, is it on youtube or anywhere else availabe?

yes, I uploaded it :cool:

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Elijah's way
02 Jul 2010, 10:45
I think if Meat got his way all of his albums would sound like HCTB. He's a guitar person, not a piano person. The US version is miles better than the UK one. For those who've never heard it, Modern Girl on the VBO is from the US version.

I agree it's way better. Surf's up one of his best songs imo.

jbk
02 Jul 2010, 14:01
I have often wondered why Durkee and Jacobs were not used later as song writers, on later albums? Take a number was a fun song, I thought. Considering it was a B side. Sorry about the rPM mistake.

samurai7
02 Jul 2010, 14:04
I have often wondered why Durkee and Jacobs were not used later as song writers, on later albums? Take a number was a fun song, I thought. Considering it was a B side. Sorry about the rPM mistake.

well they did pen Where the Rubber Meets the Road for WTTN ;-)

Evil One
02 Jul 2010, 14:40
Too busy writing for Sesame Street?

Mr. Happy
02 Jul 2010, 18:18
It's kinda sad I'm so obsessed wiith Meat's music that I love writing reviews on it (whether it be good or bad), but there you go =D Anyway, my take on Bad Attitude:

1.BAD ATTITUDE: Alright song. Personally, I love the lyrics a lot more than the music, but that's just how it is. 7/10...the sort of song I don't pass when it comes up on my iPod's shuffle, but not one I often go out of my way to listen to very often. Regardless, good start to the album.

2. MODERN GIRL: I'll admit, for a long time I wasn't a huge fan of this song. Over time it has grown on me however, and really is just a great song. Same as BA, I think that the lyrics are lightyears beyond the music, but in this case, the music is still pretty impressive. Once a beautiful Miss America married Mr Right...had a little baby girl, born on a stormy night...love that line. 8/10, definitely one of the best 80s songs of Meat's

3. NOWHERE FAST: This is where I have a bone to pick. I really don't like this take on this song. The Fire Inc version has long been one of my favorite songs ever (really only ever beaten by Bonnie Tyler's Rebel Without A Clue)...so this version really is depressing for me. Where is the magnificent piano? Where is the god speed section? Where are the references to the Storm and lines from Bad for Good? Why is the guitar so dull and lifeless? Why is the only redeeming factor of this song Meat's voice? No, I won't rate this song, because I'm sure I'll offend someone somewhere. It has no life in it...it just feels dirty and mutilated. Sorry, can't stand this version. It's like someone threw the original into a machine, mangled it almost beyond recognition, then spat it back out to have Meat's heavenly voice plastered over the top of it. Moving along...

4. SURF'S UP: Yeah, this song's in the same boat as Nowhere Fast. It's MEANT to be a piano ballad...not some insane combination of watered down piano, lots of drums and guitar =( Even Meat's voice is a let down for me on this song...the chorus in particular could be sung a lot better. Still, it's a slightly better attempt that Nowhere Fast was, and I'll be generous and give it a 3/10. Love the version from Bad for Good from the bottom of my heart...whenever I hear this one, I die a little inside.

5. JUMPING THE GUN: Now that the worst is over, I have to say I really do enjoy this song. It's a great duet and instantly reminds me of All Revved Up With No Place To Go. Catchy chorus, great riffs, and overall a fun song. 8/10

6. PIECE OF THE ACTION: Where do I begin? I LOVE this song! Without a doubt THE best song Meat ever produced in the 80s (yes, even counting Dead Ringer...maybe with the exception of Peel Out or Read Em and Weep). This song should have been a HUGE hit...the lyrics, just like many of the other songs on the album, are simply brilliant. Shoving boxes full of hungry dreams...<3 I really don't know what it is about this song that appeals to me so much...probably how perfectly the hauntingly beautiful music matches the clever lyrics, but yeah, I don't care. It's simply made of pure win.

7. CHEATING IN YOUR DREAMS: I've never really clicked with this song, mainly because it's simply over the top 80s...as in, for a lot of the song, it tries far too hard to capture that vibe. As usual though, the lyrics are fantastic, and to me that's the best part of this song. Other than that, I don't have a lot to say about this song. 6/10...nah that's a bit harsh, 7/10 :D

8. DON'T LEAVE YOUR MARK ON ME: This is another fantastic song, another unrecognized jewel of the 80s. The ambient intro is interesting, the chorus is insanely powerful, and the music really draws you in. Right up there with Piece of the Action. 9/10

9. SAILOR TO A SIREN: I've always liked this song. I like how you have the scat in the background every second bar with what I presume is meant to be the impression of a siren. I like how clever the title is. I like Meat's vocals and I like the music. Honestly. It's hard to find something not to like about this song. 9/10

Overall, I give the album 8/10. IMO, it had 3 exceptional songs (Sailor to a Siren, Piece of the Action, Don't Leave Your Mark On Me), a couple of pretty decent songs (Modern Girl, Jumping the Gun), some good songs (Bad Attitude, Cheatin in Your Dreams) and then some horrible covers (Nowhere Fast and Surf's Up). The lyrics of this album are something special, and I have to say it's disappointing Meat didn't work with the writer's again. Definitely better than all save 3 songs of MATLAF, maybe half of BBIS and equal with a lot of Dead Ringer. And out of ALL of Meat's album, I'd probably put...Bat 2, HCTB, WTTN, Bat 3, BA. Maybe. It's hard to choose between my beloved D=

Disclaimer: This is all my opinion and no one should be offended by my comments on two songs in particular or be taken as solid, hard facts (obviously). In other words, if you don't agree with me, please don't flame me for it D=

fred2010
02 Jul 2010, 18:20
been awhile since i listened to this one, but i agree that it is one of his better releases. Bad Attitude and Modern Girl are both decent songs, but I don't seem to be as into them as other Meat fans. For me, Bad Attitude just didn't seem to know what it was. Modern Girl was good, but it didn't really seem to stand out from anything. The rest of the songs on the album are top notch and it would be hard to pick a favorite, but it would go something like this:

1) Nowhere Fast

2) Surf's Up

3) Sailer to a Siren

4) Piece of the Action

5) Jumpin the Gun

6) Don't Leave Your Mark

7) Bad Attitude

8) Cheating in Your Dreams

9) Modern Girl

Wario
02 Jul 2010, 20:39
4. SURF'S UP: Yeah, this song's in the same boat as Nowhere Fast. It's MEANT to be a piano ballad...not some insane combination of watered down piano, lots of drums and guitar =( Even Meat's voice is a let down for me on this song...the chorus in particular could be sung a lot better. Still, it's a slightly better attempt that Nowhere Fast was, and I'll be generous and give it a 3/10. Love the version from Bad for Good from the bottom of my heart...whenever I hear this one, I die a little inside.

You know he did d a piano only version. listen to the us release ;)

Mr. Happy
06 Jul 2010, 11:30
You know he did d a piano only version. listen to the us release ;)

Really? :D Thanks for that bit of info, I'm going to have to go look it up now

Wario
06 Jul 2010, 11:33
Really? :D Thanks for that bit of info, I'm going to have to go look it up now

Well here it is just in case you are having trouble:

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Mr. Happy
06 Jul 2010, 12:12
WarioLoaf's YouTube vid

:D Thanks for that, I saw it on YouTube before but I wasn't sure if that was the version you were referring to.

Definitely better than the version I have, goes without saying. The guitar solo after the chorus is changed around a little bit, and works a bit better. Drums are a bit...weird, but it works better than my current version (album case says UK), and the vocals are little less eccentric. Thanks for that, much better take on it.