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loaferman61

10 May 2010, 19:58

I don't think he'll be the guest host since Flava Flav is scheduled to do this, as per wwe.com, but will be interesting to see if he is on it in some form

Yeah, he said he planned to show them a thing or two so I'm assuming he will be involved in some sort of skit (sometimes they are embarrassing on WWE) and get to mention HCTB.

RadioMaster

10 May 2010, 20:00

think he will perform anything?

allrevvedup

10 May 2010, 20:08

I hope he just turns up without a performance...although something of a brief sing off might not be bad...a bit like the Avid Merron thing.

snider22

10 May 2010, 20:08

think he will perform anything?

Thats what I was curious about.

loaferman61

10 May 2010, 20:21

I hope he just turns up without a performance...although something of a brief sing off might not be bad...a bit like the Avid Merron thing.

I don't know, but kind of doubt it. Most likely it will be some backstage interaction where he gets to plug HCTB, anything beyond that will be a pleasant surprise. If WWE "creative" actually produces something for him that is not embarrassing it will be good enough for me. Some of those skits are atrocious.

Fire Ball

10 May 2010, 21:36

It all comes down to how they are done. You have to commit to it and it will work.
M

I don't know, but kind of doubt it. Most likely it will be some backstage interaction where he gets to plug HCTB, anything beyond that will be a pleasant surprise. If WWE "creative" actually produces something for him that is not embarrassing it will be good enough for me. Some of those skits are atrocious.

Vickip

10 May 2010, 22:13

It all comes down to how they are done. You have to commit to it and it will work.
M

I'm looking forward to watching it :))
Vicki

NOMATTERWHAT

11 May 2010, 00:16

Meat Loaf's theatrics fit in with what staged concepts that Vince McMahon has to offer.

Vickip

11 May 2010, 00:32

Meat Loaf's theatrics fit in with what staged concepts that Vince McMahon has to offer.

As long as he doesn't get in a match with the Undertaker I'm happy :-)
That guy scares the heck out of me :shock:

Vickip

11 May 2010, 00:36

I don't think he'll be the guest host since Flava Flav is scheduled to do this, as per wwe.com, but will be interesting to see if he is on it in some form

I was wondering the same thing ... maybe the plans have changed and Flava Flav is going to host next week and Meat is going to host tonight instead :??:
I'm still really looking forward to watching the show tonight :))

suzieq

11 May 2010, 00:39

I was wondering the same thing ... maybe the plans have changed and Flava Flav is going to host next week and Meat is going to host tonight instead :??:
I'm still really looking forward to watching the show tonight :))

We'll have to be patient for a few more hours....I'm looking forward to it too!!!

Vickip

11 May 2010, 00:41

We'll have to be patient for a few more hours....I'm looking forward to it too!!!

We're going to get see him .. that's all that matters :))

wizardofodd

11 May 2010, 03:50

Well it looks like i will be up so i will catch what i can before i drop off. Creative on WWE are a case of hit and miss but it is very dependent on the performer. Meat is a great actor and i am sure it will be highligted here in whatever role he will have. Should be great!

wizardofodd

11 May 2010, 04:11

RKO this is great

suzieq

11 May 2010, 04:11

OH NO RANDY DID NOT JUST DO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!

Suzieq

wizardofodd

11 May 2010, 04:12

Ok meat took the bump well, surprised they allowed it. i am sure he is fine. This was funny

meat_loaf2008

11 May 2010, 04:14

That. Was. AWESOME!

wizardofodd

11 May 2010, 04:17

Out of all the things i didnt expect meat to take a bump, not at his age. I think this is the last of mr loaf tonight but that was pretty awsome. Meat played the lively slightly anoyin heel well. Great moment

Vickip

11 May 2010, 04:18

OH NO RANDY DID NOT JUST DO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!

Suzieq

I know !!!!! :lmao:
But Meat really had me going when I thought he was going to sing
Elvis In Vegas !!

That was excellent :))

Wario

11 May 2010, 04:20

OMG that was so great.

He also performed small pieces from Elvis in Vegas and California :D:D:D

Vickip

11 May 2010, 04:22

Ok meat took the bump well, surprised they allowed it. i am sure he is fine. This was funny

Yeah he's a great sport :))

Nick

11 May 2010, 04:23

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0tpkMlf1pQ OH NO!!!

suzieq

11 May 2010, 04:26

I feared for Meat as soon as he started singing Elvis in Vegas. But it went over well. AND they replayed it. LMAO! Can't stop giggling. Talk about committing to the show.

wizardofodd

11 May 2010, 04:28

Nice quick upload. Talk about plug an album haha it was kind of a micky take of the whole promotion thing which contributed to the story of getting rid of the guest host spot (as a power role) Meat really is a great sport, full of energy. Nice crowed reaction too

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 04:38

Ok meat took the bump well, surprised they allowed it. i am sure he is fine. This was funny

He didn't take the bump that good. I applaud him for his efforts though!! WWE could have done a better job of creating a segment for him. I think Vince McMahon might be a Steinman fan.

Rage Against

"The movie's over fade to black"

Vickip

11 May 2010, 04:46

OMG that was so great.

He also performed small pieces from Elvis in Vegas and California :D:D:D

I actually fell off the chair when the started singing Elvis :))
California was hysterical :lol:

suzieq

11 May 2010, 04:47

clpmss

11 May 2010, 04:49

Vickip

11 May 2010, 04:50

I feared for Meat as soon as he started singing Elvis in Vegas. But it went over well. AND they replayed it. LMAO! Can't stop giggling. Talk about committing to the show.

I know what you mean ... I can't stop laughing :lol:
I loved his grand entrance .. even though he was holding the CD
upside down :lmao:

Vickip

11 May 2010, 04:51

If Meat took the bump without break or bruise, I'd say it was a successful bump taken. :))

Suzieq

Exactly :))

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 04:55

I know what you mean ... I can't stop laughing :lol:
I loved his grand entrance .. even though he was holding the CD
upside down :lmao:

I wonder if he was holding it upside down on purpose. That was the funniest part of the segment.

Rage Against

suzieq

11 May 2010, 04:58

WTH!!!! if that stunt went wrong he could have gotten seriously hurt. if either one of them landed the wrong way. I can't believe that ML agreed to something like that. WTH!!! OMG!!!! I better stop or I'll get banned.

Easy Chris. You saw Fight Club right? It's all acting...and Randy went easy on Meat...I'm sure Meat had a few practice rounds on the mats in the back. Yes, we need our guy in good shape and we know about his knees, ankle, feet and all kinds of things, but I bet Meat had a blast selling that move.

Suz

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 05:01

Easy Chris. You saw Fight Club right? It's all acting...and Randy went easy on Meat...I'm sure Meat had a few practice rounds on the mats in the back. Yes, we need our guy in good shape and we know about his knees, ankle, feet and all kinds of things, but I bet Meat had a blast selling that move.

Suz

From the looks of it, he didn't practice. And selling the move...?

Rage Against

Vickip

11 May 2010, 05:02

Easy Chris. You saw Fight Club right? It's all acting...and Randy went easy on Meat...I'm sure Meat had a few practice rounds on the mats in the back. Yes, we need our guy in good shape and we know about his knees, ankle, feet and all kinds of things, but I bet Meat had a blast selling that move.

Suz

That's exactly what I was thinking Suzie. Meat wasn't in any danger ... it was all for show, and I'm sure
he enjoyed every minute of it.

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 05:08

That's exactly what I was thinking Suzie. Meat wasn't in any danger ... it was all for show, and I'm sure
he enjoyed every minute of it.

I agree. I'd take an RKO in a heartbeat!!

Rage Against

suzieq

11 May 2010, 05:11

I agree. I'd take an RKO in a heartbeat!!

Rage Against

Per chance are you a Randy Orton fan?

suzieq

11 May 2010, 05:14

I actually fell off the chair when the started singing Elvis :))
California was hysterical :lol:

Had an afterthought....if Meat would've sung the line...."Come and lend me your hand for my forthcoming release"....I think the RKO would've come sooner than later. :lol:

Suzieq

Vickip

11 May 2010, 05:18

Had an afterthought....if Meat would've sung the line...."Come and lend me your hand for my forthcoming release"....I think the RKO would've come sooner than later. :lol:

Suzieq

:shock: :lmao:

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 05:25

Per chance are you a Randy Orton fan?

I am now! lol

suzieq

11 May 2010, 05:31

Ok they have Edge needing a tag team partner for a handicap match against Randy Orton......can I pitch that Meat's going to have a match?

Suzieq

Vickip

11 May 2010, 05:35

Ok they have Edge needing a tag team partner for a handicap match against Randy Orton......can I pitch that Meat's going to have a match?

Suzieq

I don't think so :lol:

suzieq

11 May 2010, 05:36

I don't think so :lol:

Just thought I'd ask. :lol:

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 05:38

Ok they have Edge needing a tag team partner for a handicap match against Randy Orton......can I pitch that Meat's going to have a match?

Suzieq

I'm all for it!!!!

Vickip

11 May 2010, 05:43

Just thought I'd ask. :lol:
:lmao:

Wario

11 May 2010, 05:44

They just performed Like A Rose!!!! and it was sick!!!!

:twisted:

Vickip

11 May 2010, 05:46

They just performed Like A Rose!!!! and it was sick!!!!

:twisted:

:lol:

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 05:52

They showed the RKO again twice!!! Sweet!

suzieq

11 May 2010, 05:53

NICE album plug!

suzieq

11 May 2010, 05:54

I'm all for it!!!!

Starting to worry about the voices in your head, that counsel you, and understand....;)

Kathy

11 May 2010, 05:57

yeah, and a really nice plug for the album, with Like a Rose playing in the background :)
-Kathy, still recovering, lol
They showed the RKO again twice!!! Sweet!

NOMATTERWHAT

11 May 2010, 05:58

Fake or not...he is not a youngster anymore. :shock:

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 05:58

NICE album plug!

Silver Tongued Devil???

suzieq

11 May 2010, 06:00

Silver Tongued Devil???

You rang?

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 06:04

You rang?

I'll ring ya!

Vickip

11 May 2010, 06:06

yeah, and a really nice plug for the album, with Like a Rose playing in the background :)
-Kathy, still recovering, lol

I only saw them repeat it once .. now I'll definitely have to watch the recording again :))
Yes, it was a great plug for the new CD !

Vicki :lol:

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 06:08

Let's hear it for an RKO on Buzz Aldrin!!!!!

suzieq

11 May 2010, 06:09

I'll ring ya!

Boy, you are a friendly one .... (now where did that ignore button go?):wtf:

suzieq

11 May 2010, 06:21

And now for dramatic effect.....we won't hear from Meat until Hang Cool Teddy Bear release day in the US!!!!!!

Vickip

11 May 2010, 06:34

And now for dramatic effect.....we won't hear from Meat until Hang Cool Teddy Bear release day in the US!!!!!!

I know :lol:

Vickip

11 May 2010, 06:35

Let's hear it for an RKO on Buzz Aldrin!!!!!

:lmao:

Dave

11 May 2010, 08:52

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/raw/2010/may8-14/14404094

mtaylor315

11 May 2010, 09:24

If people would prefer to see a youtube video part 1 of raw is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfQLzbthaO4

this has meat's part with randy orton - the rest of the show will be uploaded by the end of the day, so you could watch the whole show through again if you want to :D

RadioMaster

11 May 2010, 10:32

that was fun lol

is it true that Like a Rose will be a single in the US?

nikox1

11 May 2010, 13:29

great stuff Meat:lol:

Netty

11 May 2010, 14:02

what an entrance :D i loved it

but i was scared at the end....i knew it was 'just a game' but I was concerned about Meat very much.

Evil One

11 May 2010, 14:33

I'd have thought Bat Out Of Hell would have been a better choice for the entrance? :?

Rage Against

11 May 2010, 15:12

I'd have thought Bat Out Of Hell would have been a better choice for the entrance? :?

I was thinking "Song of Madness" to promote the new album, but Bat is a nice choice too.

loaferman61

11 May 2010, 15:33

He didn't take the bump that good. I applaud him for his efforts though!! WWE could have done a better job of creating a segment for him. I think Vince McMahon might be a Steinman fan.

Rage Against

"The movie's over fade to black"
Considering he's not used to taking bumps he did a nice job of setting it up for Orton and Orton did his job of protecting Meat and both sold it great. Meat did a pretty nice tuck and roll and laid out like a chalk outline, which told me he landed OK. I've seen indy wrestlers take moves worse and they usually land awkwardly not neatly sprawled out like Meat did. Good job and much better than some silly skit backstage that I had feared they'd do.

wizardofodd

11 May 2010, 15:43

Yes it was a very safe and clean bump. Vince (the owner) wouldnt risk hurting a celeb if he didnt feel it was safe and Meat was up for it. Considering the insurance probs meats had in the past i am surprised they let him do it. I have seen many botched moves performed on celebs and non wrestlers but this was fine. I just hope when i am Meats age (i have 40 years yet) i will be able to have his energy and commitment to performance (i am an actor) that he showed last night and Meat can sure cut a decent promo compared to many wrestlers.

melon

11 May 2010, 17:55

My mum's jaw hit the ground lol. Good job Meat! Loved it, but I did grimace first time I watched that!

Couch Potato

11 May 2010, 20:47

This may have (and proberbly) been posted somewhere elce, but Meat was on WWE wrestling show, RAW last night, the clip is pretty funny and infact Meat take the 'bump' at the end like a pro.

Have a neb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXPmZM2kPtE&feature=related

SKip it to around 5mins - Meat comes out to Paradise

Smithie

11 May 2010, 21:51

suzieq

11 May 2010, 22:11

MTV Top Story(ies) today.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1638855/20100511/meatloaf.jhtml

Suzieq

Vickip

11 May 2010, 22:26

MTV Top Story(ies) today.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1638855/20100511/meatloaf.jhtml

Suzieq

Excellent :))

The Flying Mouse

11 May 2010, 22:30

:twisted: Shame they couldn't talk Andy Kaufman into coming out of hiding for this.

That would have been a real show 8) :mrgreen:

Sarge

11 May 2010, 22:34

Don't know what to think of that appearance. I'm probably the only person here who doesn't think it's funny (except maybe for the moment when Meat goes down).

AndrewG

11 May 2010, 23:02

Don't know what to think of that appearance. I'm probably the only person here who doesn't think it's funny (except maybe for the moment when Meat goes down).

I'm with you on this.
I thought it was quite sad really and I'm nearing the end of the line with all this.... :-(

nikox1

11 May 2010, 23:33

I'm with you on this.
I thought it was quite sad really and I'm nearing the end of the line with all this.... :-(

dont do it!! dont jump!!

Monstro

11 May 2010, 23:43

Please play nicely, if you don't like a post please report it and then ignore it, the next available mod will deal with it.

firefly

11 May 2010, 23:55

I know !!!!! :lmao:
But Meat really had me going when I thought he was going to sing
Elvis In Vegas !!

That was excellent :))

Yeah Meat had me going there too vicki, i love that song

Rage Against

12 May 2010, 01:03

In the end, I think the WWE appearance was great and did it's job. It's being talked about and helps the album. Many celebrities have been on WWE to promote their projects. It's the same thing as a print ad in a music magazine or going on Today or Fox News. Good for Meat Loaf for having fun, plugging the album and allowing me to have a good laugh (and make fun of another fan).

Meat Redfish

12 May 2010, 03:32

Vince and wwe love meat loaf and Jim, jim also wrote a theme tune for a future wwf/e champ .... have a guess???

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1285528/a/Wrestling+Album.htm

Meat Redfish

12 May 2010, 03:42

here the "rock n wrestlin" cartoon intro!!

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/jPSra3AccE0&hl=en_GB&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jPSra3AccE0&hl=en_GB&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

CarylB

12 May 2010, 12:02

Meat said earlier in this thread:
You have to commit to it and it will work.

Well, he certainly committed and made it work brilliantly imo.

He played his part wonderfully .. he could have BEEN one of those managers who jump in the ring to wind their wrestlers up. This was our coaching sports-lover Meat at his peak! I think he had fun and enjoyed it, it was a shrewd move to reach millions and make them aware he has a new album out and he punched out more information than I'd have thought possible whilst waiting for his nemesis. It's years since I watched any wrestling, and I've never watched it USA style, but to me he fell like a tyro.

Can't help feeling that to have been up in the ring, promoting in trash-talk style, and pulling off a fall like that might be one of Meat's treasured moments, if not the realisation of a secret ambition ;)

Caryl

lorenzoduke

12 May 2010, 17:07

I'm with you on this.
I thought it was quite sad really and I'm nearing the end of the line with all this.... :-(

What 'all this' are you referring to?

Also, the people fearing for Meat's safety/health...he puts his body through more than that every time he does a concert.

melon

12 May 2010, 17:22

Also, the people fearing for Meat's safety/health...he puts his body through more than that every time he does a concert.

Yes, he's a grown up now........ he can choose to do something like this if he wishes, in controlled circumstances such as this, now if on the other hand, in the extremely impossible chance he was in a match, now there would be reason to worry lol. But this is just Meat having fun promoting HIS album. At least he wasn't doing cartwheels lol. He does more damage to himself doing those than a controlled stunt with a professional, whom must have completed that move how many 100's of times?

wizardofodd

13 May 2010, 00:19

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/wwemusic/2010/may8-14/14433136

Thats a link that hopefully loads a video with Meats comments of the RKO aftermath

suzieq

13 May 2010, 00:53

Thanks wizardofodd....I'm glad Meat felt "cool" about being RKO'd. There are some people that would love to be part of a finisher.

Suzieq

Vickip

13 May 2010, 01:03

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/wwemusic/2010/may8-14/14433136

Thats a link that hopefully loads a video with Meats comments of the RKO aftermath

Thanks for posting the link :-)

Vickip

13 May 2010, 01:04

Thanks wizardofodd....I'm glad Meat felt "cool" about being RKO'd. There are some people that would love to be part of a finisher.

Suzieq

I absolutely agree Suzieq :))

CarylB

13 May 2010, 02:04

I posted that I couldn't help feeling that pulling off a fall like that might be one of Meat's treasured moments, if not the realisation of a secret ambition .. looks like I was right ;)

Caryl

allrevvedup

14 May 2010, 12:53

I thought the segment started off really well (apart from the bizarre choice of Paradise as Meat's theme, Bat would've much more of a kick to it)

The "Randy Orton" screaming bit was good as well but to me it started to go downhill from the second he held the cd upside down, never a good thing for live tv when trying to promote your product:D

It just went on a bit too long and trying to sell Elvis in Vegas with such a slow build up in the intro just wasn't going over well at all.

Orton was Orton, a much better character then he has been in years and the best part being that he has a steely eyed look of determination and says very little which in terms of television is a great character to have for the intensity alone.

I suppose if it helped to sell even one copy it was worth it, but I can see why people were upset at Meat being there. To some it can seem like he is flogging himself out in desperation; to me I saw it as promotion but the photo and interview afterwards were all really good imo.

carole

14 May 2010, 13:08

Well I thought it came across as Meat having fun and going along with it and acting the part, which he does so well.

Carole

thomas83uk

15 May 2010, 17:46

he was on monday night raw on ..... well monday night did no one see it?
im a wrestling fan and loved it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYDx1ytfq6I

Rage Against

15 May 2010, 20:01

he was on monday night raw on ..... well monday night did no one see it?
im a wrestling fan and loved it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYDx1ytfq6I

I agree. As a wrestling fan, I thought it was great! As a Meat Loaf fan, it was even better! The best of both worlds!!

Pudding

16 May 2010, 00:16

Don't know what to think of that appearance. I'm probably the only person here who doesn't think it's funny (except maybe for the moment when Meat goes down).

I'm with you on this. It looked like the actions of someone desperate to do anything to promote an album. Will be interesting to see if his appearance = sales.

snider22

16 May 2010, 00:20

Now, I will confess to being a wrestling fan, so to see Meat walk down the ramp and step into the ring was just priceless. I did not think that it came across as desperate at all, it seemed more fun and lighthearted (except for the RKO, which Meat took pretty well). All in all I thought it was a good way to reach a large audience. Meat walked out playing a loud heel character, and he played it well, kudos to Meat for trying new things with promotion.

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 00:25

I'm with you on this. It looked like the actions of someone desperate to do anything to promote an album. Will be interesting to see if his appearance = sales.

When you feel passionately about something, like Meat Loaf feels about this album, you will do anything to promote it. It's not like he channeled the Sham Wow guy and is doing infomercials at 2am on SPIKE. Damn, he's promoting an album people! He's marketing his product. And...if I ever get the chance to be on a WWE program, let me state for the record, I want to take an RKO, Pedigree and Sweet Chin Music in that order!!!!

carole

16 May 2010, 00:54

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/wwemusic/2010/may8-14/14433136

Thats a link that hopefully loads a video with Meats comments of the RKO aftermath

I can't watch that clip on my computer, could someone please put it on youtube so I can watch it?

Carole

LisaT

16 May 2010, 01:12

Well I thought it came across as Meat having fun and going along with it and acting the part, which he does so well.

Carole

That's how I see it too - Meat just being a great sport as usual!

Vickip

16 May 2010, 01:45

I can't watch that clip on my computer, could someone please put it on youtube so I can watch it?

Carole

I didn't post it on YouTube, but you can download it here Carole :

Video (http://home.comcast.net/~vlp0107/Meat%20Loaf/WWE2.mp4)

Sarge

16 May 2010, 05:21

suzieq

16 May 2010, 05:30

The average RAW viewer took this as a recognizable celebrity who was about to get RKO'd NO MATTER what the guy said. Meat was there to get an insert in about the album and get RKO'd. If Meat would have sang Randy's entrance music he has now, he would have still gotten RKO'd. Randy is on the verge of becoming a babyface, and the fans want to see anything that moves get RKO'd. It doesn't matter. That's what the average RAW viewer is going to see.

It was a FUN gig. When we are entrapped in all seriousness about wanting HCTB to do well, this was a FUN stunt.

Having said that, if you watched the whole show through, the announcers Michael Cole and the King promo'd the album VERY tastefully. Giving Meat his image back. And believe me the fans of the WWE listen to what the announcers say just as if there is action in the ring. There were two plugs that were stellar.

In terms, Meat was playing the villain here. So what does an RKO mean....the boys in the back = instant respect.....fans = instant respect. You take a bump, you get the cred.

Suzieq

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 05:35

Some people seem to think that any kind of appearance = good promo... If it was that easy, marketing wouldn't be such a difficult job. The question is: Did the average RAW viewer recognize Meat Loaf as a rock singer who has a pretty good album out or just as someone playing a silly part in a wrestling show? What the audience got to hear from the album was Meat screaming a few words into the microphone. He could have as well played a cooler, less annoying character - I believe that could have been better promo than him gabbling rather incoherently about the CD.

I'll agree that WWE could have created a better spot for Meat Loaf, but he did his best with what he had to work with. I'm sure I was not the only person watching RAW that night who was talking about Meat Loaf's appearance the next day. Somewhere out there someone saw RAW and said, wait Meat Loaf has a new album out? Just getting his name out there and getting talked about is a positive. Is the Rolling Stone advertisement better than the RAW appearance? I think not. Meat's appearance on RAW has the same power with the wrestling audience as a nod from Oprah has with her audience.

Wario

16 May 2010, 05:37

when i read the title of this thread I got excited and thought he sang RAW on WWE :(

:cool: - i just wanted to reference RAW cause I could.

suzieq

16 May 2010, 05:39

when i read the title of this thread I got excited and thought he sang RAW on WWE :(

With due respect, don't judge a thread by it's title. Title said WWE Raw 05/10/10 ~ not sure how you interpreted the singing part into it....and it's under Loaf!Camera!Action! ~ tells me TV appearance.

Wario

16 May 2010, 05:42

With due respect, don't judge a thread by it's title. Title said WWE Raw 05/10/10 ~ not sure how you interpreted the singing part into it....and it's under Loaf!Camera!Action! ~ tells me TV appearance.

I was joking .... if you notice i replied in this thread before :cool:

and RAW stood for Readem and Weep

suzieq

16 May 2010, 05:43

I was joking .... if you notice i replied in this thread before :cool:

My bad. Sorry. :oops:

Sarge

16 May 2010, 05:54

Let's assume I wasn't a fan. Would that skit have made me buy the album? NO! But I think I've become a Randy Orton fan. :twisted:

carole

16 May 2010, 05:57

I didn't post it on YouTube, but you can download it here Carole :

Video (http://home.comcast.net/~vlp0107/Meat%20Loaf/WWE2.mp4)

Thanks Vicki, it was great to finally Meat's behind the scene comments.

Carole

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 06:00

Let's assume I wasn't a fan. Would that skit have made me buy the album? NO! But I think I've become a Randy Orton fan. :twisted:

It may have caused you to take a look at Meat's album or pick it up if you saw it in the store. Maybe even look for it if you happen to be in the record store. And if you're a Randy Orton fan, you may see his interaction with Meat as a nod for the album. Most wrestling fans know it's all scripted and understand why the guests are there, to promote something. It has to be somewhat effective or people wouldn't want to do it.

And lastly...are you a fan?

suzieq

16 May 2010, 06:01

:lurk:

Sarge

16 May 2010, 06:08

It may have caused you to take a look at Meat's album or pick it up if you saw it in the store.

NO! :p

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 06:11

NO! :p

That's what I thought...:devil:

Sarge

16 May 2010, 06:16

Pudding

16 May 2010, 07:01

I'll agree that WWE could have created a better spot for Meat Loaf, but he did his best with what he had to work with.

Meat did do his best with what he was offered but what he was offered wasn't very good in my opinion. There's nothing Sarge has said that I disagree with.

JennaG

16 May 2010, 16:27

CarylB

16 May 2010, 16:44

I'm not a wrestling fan, in fact I can't stand it so I only watched the bit with Meat. To be honest I had no idea what RKO meant so I was a bit surprised to see Meat get thrown.

The way I look at it, it's getting more promotion for the album and the more people that are aware of it, the better chance it has of selling.

As an entertainment it doesn't really float my boat either ;) .. but I expected Meat would get thrown :lol: .. and from what he said afterwards, it was, as one might expect, something he'd revel in, and would have approached with his trademark professionalism; and he was probably more likely to get hurt tripping on a stair at home, like most of us ;)

As you say .. he enoyed it and had fun. He also reached an audience of millions, not only with his actual appearance, but through the additional commentaries during the programme.

Like you, for me there's no "coulda" no "shoulda" .. Just why not? He chooses, and imo knows a bit more about what he's doing than the peanut gallery ;)

Caryl

Evil One

16 May 2010, 17:06

It wasn't an ideal bit of promo but with the choice between that or nothing, it's better than nothing.

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 17:25

Well, if I had seen the rocker Meat Loaf instead of some bloke getting on Orton's nerves... ;)

P.S.: Meat performed songs at boxing matches in Germany in the past. Yes, he appeared as a singer and he didn't have to get himself knocked down then. :cool:

Boxing is not scripted...wrestling is. Not many guests come onto a wrestling show and don't get involved in a storyline. I would not expect Meat to go to a UFC event and jump in the ring with Anderson Silva.

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 17:27

I'm not a wrestling fan, in fact I can't stand it so I only watched the bit with Meat. To be honest I had no idea what RKO meant so I was a bit surprised to see Meat get thrown.

I know some people disapproved of Meat doing it but if he enjoyed doing it, then why shouldn't he? Yes there was the risk of him getting hurt but I doubt they'd have allowed him to do it if he hadn't had sufficient practice in how to fall correctly and everything.

The way I look at it, it's getting more promotion for the album and the more people that are aware of it, the better chance it has of selling.

I couldn't agree more.:twisted:

TheDoode

16 May 2010, 17:28

I'm actually with Sarge on this one; it would be cool to see Meat full of conviction and coolness in the promo spots, and if the situation isn't right for a live performance, why not run a HCTB TV spot at the end/halfway through/whatever - some great rockin' clips over the album artwork (like the end of Wario's vid) - in the same way you'd cut to a trailer or scene from a movie if you were interviewing an actor?

My 2 cents.

Doode. :cool:

P.S. Or... if you want to go the comedy route, get Jack Black to do several promo spots on TV shows with Meat. At least that way people who aren't familiar with the humour and just see Meat as a musician will get it!

Sarge

16 May 2010, 17:37

Boxing is not scripted...wrestling is.

You don't have to tell me what wrestling is all about. It would have been even worse if it wasn't scripted. When appearing at the boxing matches Meat got applause - and he performed with Patti. :-) At RAW he just served as another Orton victim.

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 17:51

You don't have to tell me what wrestling is all about.

I think I do. He was playing a role on RAW, like in the movies. Your issue is he didn't appear as a musician and sing, but he doesn't play a musician in movies. He's appeared on political shows as a commentator and not a musician singing. Anytime Meat appears on a movie or show it's a promotion for his music. The only difference is this time he was promoting an album. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Vickip

16 May 2010, 18:23

Thanks Vicki, it was great to finally Meat's behind the scene comments.

Carole

You're welcome Carole. I'm glad you enjoyed it :-)

TheDoode

16 May 2010, 18:24

He was playing a role on RAW, like in the movies. Anytime Meat appears on a movie or show it's a promotion for his music.

Yeah? I must've missed the bit on House where he turned around and took bids for signed copies of Bat III. I never saw him whip out a CD on Wayne's World, either :-P

Oddly though, that would've worked!

Doode.

Sarge

16 May 2010, 18:55

Your issue is he didn't appear as a musician and sing

My issue is the way he presented himself. Playing a role at a wrestling show is okay but it depends on the kind of role and the context. I like wrestling (although I think it was much more fun back in the 1990s), yet I don't believe that it was the ideal place / way to promote an album. Especially if you hardly had any other opportunities to present its content before, let alone a hit single.

The only difference is this time he was promoting an album.

And he was promoting it in a rather bad way, in my opinion. He's just released one of his best albums, it reached the Top 10 in Europe - so why does he plug it that clumsily?

I'm usually glad to see him on TV, no matter on what kind of show, but the QVC as well as the RAW appearances made me sad.

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 19:14

Yeah? I must've missed the bit on House where he turned around and took bids for signed copies of Bat III. I never saw him whip out a CD on Wayne's World, either :-P

Oddly though, that would've worked!

Doode.

In the credits for those shows mentioned, he appears as Meat Loaf, not his legal name. If he appears as Meat Loaf, that connects any appearance with his music whether he takes out a CD or not. In Fight Club he is credited as Meat Loaf, that connects his appearance to his music. In Fight Club he played an underground fighter with man boobs. Did that hurt his album sales? I doubt it. On RAW, he played a role. Nothing more, nothing less. Maybe Meat can make you all happy and appear on Headbanger's Ball...Oh wait, it's not 1987. He's promoting the 2010 way. Let's leave it at that.

Sarge

16 May 2010, 19:21

In Fight Club he played an underground fighter with man boobs. Did that hurt his album sales?

In Fight Club he didn't hold any of his CDs in his hands, didn't attempt to sing some of his songs and didn't yell "Jon Bon Jovi... Jack Black... Kara DioGuardi..." And it was him who knocked down guys. ;)

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 19:28

In Fight Club he didn't hold any of his CDs in his hands, didn't attempt to sing some of his songs and didn't yell "Jon Bon Jovi... Jack Black... Kara DioGuardi..." And it was him who knocked down guys. ;)

But he was credited as Meat Loaf. If you don't know his music, you see the credits and then you go check out his music; that's a form of promotion. If he went by his legal name, noone would be wiser, except for his fans. If he goes on a show, as Meat Loaf, and says something totally controversial, that can affect his album sales. He didn't go on and sing or hold a CD, but he appeared as Meat Loaf. You can't separate the two.

suzieq

16 May 2010, 19:40

And what's done is done. Seems like the lines are clearly drawn whether people think this was a successful venture for Meat or not. Minds probably won't change but it is an interesting discussion nonetheless.

TheDoode

16 May 2010, 19:45

Rage Against

16 May 2010, 19:52

So, you don't think that being credited as 'Meat Loaf' has anything at all to do with the fact that that's what he likes to be called? And you're saying that the person who's never heard of Meat Loaf before, sees the name Meat Loaf on the credits of a film, and then somehow makes the massive leap of 'Oh, this guy must make music!'. Because, yeah, sure, that's gonna happen..... :-/

I never said anything about the RAW promo hurting album sales... but Freud would probably crack a smile over that one.

And so you're saying, in this age of Google, that it's not possible for someone to like a character in a show and see who played that character. Then go on a number of search engines and find out about that actor. I never knew James Marsters or Anthony Stewart Head had music albums until I googled them from seeing them in their Buffy the Vampire Slayer days. Or looked at wikipedia. I doubt I'm the only person on earth who has ever done that.

Now on a separate note, you may start making fun of me for watching Buffy....lol.

TheDoode

16 May 2010, 20:19

I'm not really saying that, man - just, well, it's hardly mass marketing is it? Realistically how many people are going to jump right to wiki?

Sarge

16 May 2010, 20:21

If you don't know his music, you see the credits and then you go check out his music; that's a form of promotion.

I know a lot of people who think Meat is cool in Fight Club but even those who know that he's also singer (many of them own Bat II) do not necessarily feel the urge to buy his albums after seeing him in the movie. I recently saw Tom Waits in Mystery Men. He was hilarious and I really like his music, yet his appearance did not make me buy further Tom Waits albums. When I see Marianne Faithfull as Irina Palm I rather perceive her as the woman she portrays than as someone who has released some interesting records. You don't always automatically associate the actor with the singer. It's not as easy as you think. ;)

CarylB

16 May 2010, 20:52

And what's done is done.

And done well .. in a style to capture the interest of WWE viewers.

Seems to me that out of 5 million or so regular viewers, (hardly a drop in the bucket), there will have been plenty who DO know of Meat, DO like his records, and DIDN'T know he had a new album out, but are WWE fans who DO know now .. I cannot fathom why people who enjoy WWE would for some reason be excluded from knowing and liking Meat's music, and would hazard a guess he appeared to reach these people.

Caryl

AndyK

16 May 2010, 21:03

Remember everyone, to disagree with someones opinion is fine. To start sniping at them whilst doing so isn't.

TheDoode

16 May 2010, 21:17

And done well .. in a style to capture the interest of WWE viewers.

Seems to me that out of 5 million or so regular viewers, (hardly a drop in the bucket), there will have been plenty who DO know of Meat, DO like his records, and DIDN'T know he had a new album out, but are WWE fans who DO know now .. I cannot fathom why people who enjoy WWE would for some reason be excluded from knowing and liking Meat's music, and would hazard a guess he appeared to reach these people.

Caryl

Hey Caryl,

I was confused when I first read this. So I re-read it. I was confused again. You're saying that a lot of people watch WWE, some of whom are probably Meat Loaf fans, who are now - thanks to the promo on RAW - aware of the new album being out? Hence the RAW promo was a success?

Did I get that right? Just trying to clarify :cool:

Doode.

CarylB

16 May 2010, 21:32

I thought it was clear .. I am saying that I see no reason to suppose that there aren't plenty of WWE fans who know of Meat, like his records, but may well not have known he had a new album out. Now they do. Hence it was a legitimate promotional activity, and IMO these were the people Meat would have been trying to reach, not people here who already know. And he did it in a way that would have appealed to WWE fans, ie his target audience. And it seems to me that being a WWE fan is not incompatible with being someone who knows of Meat, likes his records, but might well not have been made aware that he had a new album out from other means.

I have some friends who are out in the US at the moment .. they wrote today and said at the pool people were talking this week about Meat having a new album out .. and these people knew because they had seen him on WWE. And they loved the way he acted the part. I doubt they're the only ones he reached in the 5 million audience it has regularly.

How many will convert to sales I have no idea, (there are no doubt statistics on which to form a forecast, and that's the imponderable with all promotional activity) but I see no reason why many won't .. it was a valid audience to reach out to imo, and that's precisely what he did.

Caryl

TheDoode

16 May 2010, 21:46

So, 'yes', then.

Coolness! I never thought that going on RAW was a bad move, though I'm not a wrestling fan - but in no way was I suggesting that the way it was done was bad, I was just saying what I would've gotten a kick out of seeing.

What I DO think though, is that more traditional style promo is needed right now. Be it interviews and performances on prime time chat shows, or a new single with a great video, or... whatever else can be thought of. Because I want this album to do REALLY well. It deserves to, don't you think? And, for almost selfish reasons, I want more of 'em!

Doode ;)

Sarge

16 May 2010, 21:48

I want this album to do REALLY well. It deserves to, don't you think?

It definitely does.

Vickip

16 May 2010, 21:55

I want this album to do REALLY well. It deserves to, don't you think?

I second that :))

carole

16 May 2010, 23:32

Pudding

17 May 2010, 01:10

Had Meat RKO'd Randy Orton I think it would have created a bigger buzz than Meat being RKO'd or if Randy Orton endorsed the album, which he didn't. As it is, I don't think it'll make a blind bit of difference with the wrestling fans .in buying the album.

But as Evil One rightfully pointed out "with the choice between that or nothing, it's better than nothing." :shrug:

mtaylor315

17 May 2010, 08:59

don't know if this has been posted here, or you guys have already seen it, but theres a WWE.com video surfaced on youtube of meat talking about his experience on the show :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdgVCTA3YpE

enjoy :D

TheDoode

17 May 2010, 11:46

You know what, the RAW promo is so much better with that last clip added. I only saw it on youtube - did the interview clip air straight afterwards?

mtaylor315

17 May 2010, 12:18

You know what, the RAW promo is so much better with that last clip added. I only saw it on youtube - did the interview clip air straight afterwards?

just to clear up any confusion, the interview i posted was an exclusive to WWE.com.

so it wasn't shown on the RAW broadcast, or any replays, it was simply something which visitors could watch on the WWE website when they were catching up with what happened on raw :-)

WWE do this quite regularly after important matches, guest hosts etc. ;)

suzieq

18 May 2010, 04:26

So it's a week later from the WWE appearance and I am watching RAW's live event again tonight. AND guess who's name was mentioned at the top of the show via a wrestler calling out Randy Orton. Yep, Meat Loaf in all it's glory. I physically stopped what I was doing when I heard his name.

Suzieq

Vickip

18 May 2010, 04:54

mattloaf

09 Jun 2010, 16:15

Ye meat was guest host
he made big mistake singing to randy orton the viper struck meat with the rko lol poor guy
wat hurt me was the crowd boooing meats singing which was disrespectful
show or not u dnt boo meat !
Matty

Pudding

09 Jun 2010, 22:56

wat hurt me was the crowd boooing meats singing which was disrespectful

Not really. The crowd had paid good money to watch semi-naked men grapple each other, not listen to a wrestler being serenaded.

AndrewG

10 Jun 2010, 20:34

What I didn't understand is why Meat decided to sing "I can barely fit my ... " bit over and over again. Who is going to understand what the hell is going on when he is singing that unless you have listened to the song. Why not do Los Angeloser.

allrevvedup

10 Jun 2010, 20:48

yeah that was a bit of a strange one for me as well.

it's funny, a couple of years ago he would've got away with singing the full line as part of the 'attitude era' but now with them so keen to tap into the PG market he couldn't.

The segment started well but the choice of songs (the beginning of Elvis in Vegas seemed to be an eternity) for it meant it was going downhill fast and that's why the crowd started to boo it. They wanted to get back to a wrestling related theme and it quite cleary wasn't that for them.

Ironically the best thing that Meat could take from that was being RKO'd as that was what was featured for the next few days around wwe.com, the replays during the show and on many different wrestling websites.

No such thing as bad publicity in that instance.

Pudding

11 Jun 2010, 03:32

No such thing as bad publicity in that instance.

Not true. As the publicity Meat got from that segment didn't equal record sales :nope: So either the viewers didn't like what they saw and was turned off by the songs Meat was singing, or they thought Meat was a joke and got turned off from whatever the hell he was trying to sell. Had Meat been a proper guest host, then I think the publicity for the album could have been tweaked appropriately and well have worked in his favour.

Elijah's way

16 Jun 2010, 08:54

Not true. As the publicity Meat got from that segment didn't equal record sales :nope: So either the viewers didn't like what they saw and was turned off by the songs Meat was singing, or they thought Meat was a joke and got turned off from whatever the hell he was trying to sell. Had Meat been a proper guest host, then I think the publicity for the album could have been tweaked appropriately and well have worked in his favour.

Couldn't agree more.