News from Kasim

[AndyK]

Reported here (http://www.kasiminfo.com/Blog.html#022010ML)


08.15 - Last night at his gig in Philadelphia, PA, Kasim Sulton announced on stage that he was no longer a member of Meat Loaf's band.

Kasim joined the band in 1993 and became his Musical Director in 1998. Prior to that Kasim played on Bat Out Of Hell and is the only artist other than Meat Loaf who appears on each of the tracks of the Bat Out Of Hell trilogy of albums.

Kasim said last night that he is on some of the tracks of Meat Loaf's new album which is released later this year (and which Kasim thinks is a great album) and that he wished Meat Loaf all the best for his career.

[Steve6]

Sad to here. Who will be bass on Meat's next tour? I hope he brings back Steve Buslowe

[ChrisBelfast]

Sad to here. Who will be bass on Meat's next tour? I hope he brings back Steve Buslowe

My thought exactly, how good would that be :D

[L96]

Ah, no.... WHAT?

[Evil One]

Extremely.

[S.]

Kas was good But Please bring back Steve:-)

[Steve6]

Who else? Buslowe rocks on bass guitar. Listen to his playing on live tracks done with Meat Loaf... he just nails it. He has to be first choice to replace Kasim, and he knows all the songs better than anyone too. The only thing is Buslowe is not a musical director.

[WhenItComes2LovingU]

Meat sounded better under Buslowe than he has for several years under Kasim. No knock at Mr. Utopia, but Buslowe arranged the music better to cover Meat's few weaker moments. My best to Kasim on his solo career, and I hope he isn't just holding a grudge because his song was rejected for HCTB. And here's my sincere vote for Buslowe coming back to the band!

[AndrewG]

Sorry to see Kas go but I'll get over it, I wish him the best for his own career and bands etc. Only ever saw Steve Buslowe once with Meat and he was good. Doubt the replacement will be him (isn't he retired from music and found other line of work?) but you never know I guess. Plenty of talented bass players out there. I am more concerned with the music directing, but actually think Meat has a lot of that in hand himself anyway. We'll see what happens in the summer.

[Sarahdk23]

I cant believe it! I am soooo sad!! It is the worst news I have gotten in a very long time!

[Steve6]

I cant believe it! I am soooo sad!! It is the worst news I have gotten in a very long time!

I wouldn't get too sad Sarah, he could be back just as quickly as he left. *Cough* Patti :D

[RadioMaster]

Sad to here. Who will be bass on Meat's next tour? I hope he brings back Steve Buslowe

speaking of Patti, do we have any idea if she is gonna be on the album/on tour with Meat again??

[Sarahdk23]

I wouldn't get too sad Sarah, he could be back just as quickly as he left. *Cough* Patti :D

Thanks, Steve and you are right :-) Im just a big Kasim fan, and it wont be the same without him!

[suzieq]

I'm sad to see Kaz go. But I know that whoever Meat gets will be awesome, Meat's standards are soaring high. We've grown so accustomed to Kaz's stage sound when Meat performs. As well as, their friendship and comraderie after so many years is not replaceable.

Next chapter, Hang Cool Teddy Bear. Although sad in one respect, I'm looking forward to all the changes Meat has made. The bass player will be another change to the set. Re-inventing his wheels, sometimes willingly and sometimes unexpectedly as is this case.

Suzieq

[Vickip]

I'm sad to see Kaz go. But I know that whoever Meat gets will be awesome, Meat's standards are soaring high. We've grown so accustomed to Kaz's stage sound when Meat performs. As well as, their friendship and comraderie after so many years is not replaceable.

Next chapter, Hang Cool Teddy Bear. Although sad in one respect, I'm looking forward to all the changes Meat has made. The bass player will be another change to the set. Re-inventing his wheels, sometimes willingly and sometimes unexpectedly as is this case.

Suzieq

I couldn't have said it better :-)

[madagascar]

speaking of Patti, do we have any idea if she is gonna be on the album/on tour with Meat again??

Of course she'll be on the album, wasn't there a tweet where Meat was talking about a duett with Patti?

[wolfy35]

Kasim leaving is sad news indeed.

I would like either Buslowe to return or if that isnt possible it has to be someone who is at least a match for Kas & Buslowe. Someone like Stu Hamm for example

Whoever it is Meat's standards are so good that it will be someone worthy of joining the NLE

[madagascar]

What about Chris Chaney, he appeared in some tweets, he's one hell of a bass guitar player.:-):-)

[Steve6]

We could be in for a massive suprise and get a completely unknown bass player. I mean not many people would have of known of Paul Crook or Randy Flowers before they joined the band...and they blew us away with their guitar playing and talent.

Actually if he got in an unknown young bass player, it could also work out great ....But he'd have to be good. Meat has very very high standards. I'm sure we can all agree on that. :cool:

[meatrocks1]

Orianthi Panagaris would be awesome......she rocks hard like Paul:lol:

[howlerformeatloaf]

Its a shame Kasim wont be there anymore. I wonder if the rest of the band will be the same. :(

[meatrocks1]

will CC be there????

[lisa01]

Wow that was a big shock to me i will miss kasim but i wish him all the best of luck with everything he dose in the futre

[Evil One]

Another question is, with Kasim gone will one of the other band members be stepping up as musical director? If so, which one?

[meatrocks1]

My money is on Patti :lol:

[RadioMaster]

that's what i was wondering as well... does this mean a change in the sound of the NLE??

[Vickip]

I'm thinking Randy or Paul

[ROSIE]

Sad to hear Kas has left NE but wish him all the best for the future

R:lol:sie

xxxx

[RSG]

Rock on, Kasim! Wish you the very best!

[PattiRocks]

Im sad to see Kasim go it wont be the same without him but the show must go on!

[PanicLord]

I couldn't have said it better :-)


Oh, ok then, you forced me into this...

You took the words right out of my mouth.

:LOL:

Anyhow, sad to hear Kasim is off. All the best Kasim.

Would be great if Meat could clear up why he's off.

Looking forward to finding out who's replacing him!

[Steve6]

that's what i was wondering as well... does this mean a change in the sound of the NLE??

That's an interesting point.

But as regards the musical director position; I think that will be done by Meat Loaf with the NLE contributing of course.

Now I know Kasim was credited as the musical director and all, but Meat Loaf did contribute vast amounts to the direction of every show he did, much more than he credits himself for. So I personally don't think the musical director position is anything to be worried about.

As regards the sound of the NLE. I can't see it changing in anyway unless Meat wants it to. He could do one thing today and change it completely the next. So expect the unexpected as regards the sound of the NLE goes.

[RadioMaster]

just what exactly does a musical director do anyway?

[Evil One]

Directs musicals? :whistle:

[Steve6]

just what exactly does a musical director do anyway?

He conducts the musical ensemble being used for any particular concert or show; making sure the musicians are prepared for their performances and for making any changes in the score that he deems fit.

[suzieq]

just what exactly does a musical director do anyway?

In Kasim's position, he has been known as the 'Derek Jeter' of the NLE. As Meat and Kasim have worked so closely over the years, Kaz had a handle on Meat's ad libs on stage, when and where to start the band back up based on Meat's cues, Etc. Meat is the primary visionary as to how the scripts roll during the show, but the timing of the band with Meat's vision must be in check and that assist had to go to his short stop, Kasim.

I'm sure the kinks we speak of will be all sorted come tour time. For me it's going to be just another element for me to be excited about...to see what Meat does with his creativity.

Suzieq

[Sarahdk23]

What I will miss the most is definitely his background vocals! Im still sad...I think it will take me some time to be okay with him leaving!

[AndyK]

In Kasim's position, he has been known as the 'Derek Jeter' of the NLE. As Meat and Kasim have worked so closely over the years, Kaz had a handle on Meat's ad libs on stage, when and where to start the band back up based on Meat's cues, Etc. Meat is the primary visionary as to how the scripts roll during the show, but the timing of the band with Meat's vision must be in check and that assist had to go to his short stop, Kasim.

Exactly. In the NLE, Kasim was far far more than bass player on stage. I think his contributions have been underrated by us all over the years.

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: Sad news indeed :sad:

[daveake]

Exactly. In the NLE, Kasim was far far more than bass player on stage. I think his contributions have been underrated by us all over the years.

Very much agree.

[Vickip]

Exactly. In the NLE, Kasim was far far more than bass player on stage. I think his contributions have been underrated by us all over the years.

Definitely.

[Steve6]

He was more than a bass player alright. He could sing, play all guitars, keyboards, a songwriter and director, drummer..what couldn't he do?

But I'm upbeat while everyone else is sad, because I know he'll be back again in the near future.

[Elijah's way]

I'll probably be attacked for this but Im sort of glad he is gone because he's EGO is extremely LARGE!!! Sorry if this offends anyone.

[carole]

I'm sad to see Kaz go. But I know that whoever Meat gets will be awesome, Meat's standards are soaring high. We've grown so accustomed to Kaz's stage sound when Meat performs. As well as, their friendship and comraderie after so many years is not replaceable.

Next chapter, Hang Cool Teddy Bear. Although sad in one respect, I'm looking forward to all the changes Meat has made. The bass player will be another change to the set. Re-inventing his wheels, sometimes willingly and sometimes unexpectedly as is this case.

Suzieq

Very well said Suzie, it will be sad to see Kasim go, but I'm sure whoever Meat replaces him with will be outstanding. As we all know Meat's standards are high. And I look forward to the next chapter with the new album and any changes Meat makes for the next tour. I wish Kasim all the best .

Carole

[carole]

Exactly. In the NLE, Kasim was far far more than bass player on stage. I think his contributions have been underrated by us all over the years.

I agree, I'm sure he's done more than what we all realise.

Carole

[Sarahdk23]

I'll probably be attacked for this but Im sort of glad he is gone because he's EGO is extremely LARGE!!! Sorry if this offends anyone.

Really? Why do you think that? Just curious :-)

[eddy<meat-loaf>rocky]

i am in shock can some one get the brandy kasim with out meat it like fish with out the chips beans whith out the toast tom with out jerry :( :( :( i wish kasim the all best

[Steve6]

i am in shock can some one get the brandy kasim with out meat it like fish with out the chips beans whith out the toast tom with out jerry :( :( :( i wish kasim the all best

To Kasim :beer:

[Kathy]

I think it's a measure of how closely Meat and his whole band connect with us from the stage, that we hate to see any of them go. And we see them up there, interacting with each other, helping each other, working hard together to give us a good show. I do remember the first time I saw the NLE, the only person I could "see" was Meat. Since then I've expanded my peripheral vision a little ;) and have come to hold them all in very high regard. Which is, I think, exactly what Meat hopes we will do. Kasim is not only talented but a great guy; I love him and I will miss him on the Meat Loaf stage. The show will go on, though, and I plan to open my mind and heart to the new bass player, whoever he or she may be.

Best wishes, Kasim!
Kathy

[MeatGrl1]

This is such sad news, every concert I have been too, Kasim has been there in Orlando he caught my attention because he saw me trying to get one of Meat's guitar picks and failing and he caught my eye and threw me one of his which I still have that was back in 2007, he will be missed and there will no doubt be a void now but I wish him luck in the future and whatever projects he does from now on.

[MeatLoafFanRay]

It's a real shame I enjoyed Kasim's musical talents and they complimented the songs perfectly he'll be very hard to replace, but I trust Meat will choose somebody really good as a replacement. Imo this could be another factor that makes the next tour one not to miss.

[Robertb]

Do you think that the news of Kasim leaving the NLE could be an explination of why we haven't heard of any tour news on the back of the new album?

No matter what anyone says, whoever takes over from Kasim as the role as musical director will be a tough one. I hope Steve Buslowe makes a return his stage energy is awsome.

[stretch37]

Ever since I became a Meat fan Kasim has been a part of the band. It feels like a part of the family is leaving. I'm sure Meat will find someone as many of you have pointed out, but I just don't seen why Kasim would choose to leave now with this spectcular album in the works. Not that its any of my business :? I'd love to see what he can do as a solo artist though.

[RadioMaster]

Do you think that the news of Kasim leaving the NLE could be an explination of why we haven't heard of any tour news on the back of the new album?


actually there have been statements about a tour. Just recently Meat said in a german radio interview that he's gonna tour Germany and one of the stations will be cologne.

[carole]

I think it's a measure of how closely Meat and his whole band connect with us from the stage, that we hate to see any of them go. And we see them up there, interacting with each other, helping each other, working hard together to give us a good show. I do remember the first time I saw the NLE, the only person I could "see" was Meat. Since then I've expanded my peripheral vision a little ;) and have come to hold them all in very high regard. Which is, I think, exactly what Meat hopes we will do. Kasim is not only talented but a great guy; I love him and I will miss him on the Meat Loaf stage. The show will go on, though, and I plan to open my mind and heart to the new bass player, whoever he or she may be.

Best wishes, Kasim!
Kathy

That's very true Kathy, it does seem like we're losing someone from our 'Meat family', but the show will go on in spectacular style, how could it not, with Meat at the helm. Kasim will be missed, but we will make the new person welcome.

Carole

[Sarahdk23]

Kasim just posted this on his Journal:

"And, Yes.... I have left the ML camp.
It was time.
I'm so immersed in other projects right now that I just didn't have it in me to spend another year of my life on that particular tour bus.
I wish him and the band the best of luck with the new record."

http://kasimsulton.blogspot.com/

Sarah

[RadioMaster]

on the upside though, that means we're definitely gonna get a tour. Otherwise he wouldnt have felt the need to quit.

[PanicLord]

Kasim just posted this on his Journal:

"And, Yes.... I have left the ML camp.
It was time.
I'm so immersed in other projects right now that I just didn't have it in me to spend another year of my life on that particular tour bus.
I wish him and the band the best of luck with the new record."

http://kasimsulton.blogspot.com/

Sarah

So, busy with his own career, and time for a change. Can't say fairer than that. God speed Kasim.

[Vickip]

Kasim just posted this on his Journal:

"And, Yes.... I have left the ML camp.
It was time.
I'm so immersed in other projects right now that I just didn't have it in me to spend another year of my life on that particular tour bus.
I wish him and the band the best of luck with the new record."

http://kasimsulton.blogspot.com/

Sarah

Thanks for passing this along Sarah.
Vicki

[Leah]

Awww im so saddened to hear this news, kasim has been there since the very first day I turned on to Meat ('94 ish) so he's been as much of an integral part of me being a Meat Fan as has Patti and John.

But I wish him nothing but the best with his other projects and im sure that if he puts in as much as what he has with NLE then he's sure to be a success in whatever he does :D

x

[MissAsh]

As with some of the others here, Kasim has been part of the band for as long as I can remember so I'm a little sad about this news. I will very much miss seeing Kas live with Meat & the NLE, each time I've seen Meat live I have greatly enjoyed watching him play and his interaction with the crowd made the experience even more fun.

I can understand the need for change though, so I wish him all the best for the future. Best of luck to his replacement too.

[Jeanie]

Kasim was a fixture in the NLE for so very long.. he will be greatly missed, although I wish him all the best, in whatever the future holds for him.

I also welcome whomever Meat appoints as his new musicial director/ bass player, and look forward to what they bring to the band and to the shows. :)

J. xo

[Cult Of Byron]

*cough*Steve Harris*cough* :lol:

Good luck to Kasim though, I remember hearing some of his solo stuff on the CHSIB tour and while not my particular cup of tea, he's clearly a talented musician!

Could be an interesting tour, this...

[carole]

Kasim just posted this on his Journal:

"And, Yes.... I have left the ML camp.
It was time.
I'm so immersed in other projects right now that I just didn't have it in me to spend another year of my life on that particular tour bus.
I wish him and the band the best of luck with the new record."

http://kasimsulton.blogspot.com/

Sarah

Thanks for passing this along Sarah, I wish Kasim all the best.

Carole

[elo88]

I think that the maybe upcoming live shows will be more awful, because it was Kasim who helped ML a lot on stage.

And I believe that the next Musical dirdector will be Mark.

[LP]

I think that the maybe upcoming live shows will be more awful, because it was Kasim who helped ML a lot on stage.

And I believe that the next Musical dirdector will be Mark.

More awful? Ouch!

[Evil One]

Meat was around for many years without Kasim.

[nikox1]

Meat was around for many years without Kasim.

too true!! but its sad to see him go:(

[Benny]

Sad news, but all the best for the future Kas.
Would love to see Steve Buslowe come back, but doubt that will happen.
Also, I always thought John Golden was a great bassist.

[renegadeangel]

I wonder if theres any truth to the rumor that Kasim is going to be the musical director for the BAT OUT OF HELL musical?

[Sarahdk23]

Hmm, interesting! Where have you heard that rumour? He did mention that he would be in the uk later this year, but assumed it was with Meat Loaf, but maybe thats the reason he is going there...

[renegadeangel]

It was on the rockman record. I don't know if the source in believeable but there you go.

[Smithie]

Good luck, Kasim. We'll miss you.

CC's husband, TJ Jablonski, plays bass. Maybe he could join the Neverland Express. He's a really cool guy and a great bass player. He already knows the band members so he'd fit right in.

[glamourgirl]

Thanks for all the great memories Kasim.

[lorenzoduke]

Good luck Kasim. Great musician, nice guy.

[suzieq]

All the other Kasim threads are locked for one reason or another. But I saw a recent pic of Kasim online and thought.....now he looks like he's having fun...so I just thought I'd share this photo as an update. It must be a picture from one of all those projects he had lined up at the time of his decision to part ways with Meat/NLE.

Grass greener on the other side? Not sure but it certainly is colorful ;)

http://media.mlxxfc.net/flaming kasim.jpg

[Vickip]

Grass greener on the other side? Not sure but it certainly is colorful ;)

http://media.mlxxfc.net/flaming kasim.jpg

:lol:

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: In other Kasim news, I got this message from him on Facebook, posted as an event invitation (hopefully he won't mind me sharing :wink: )



I need you to help create the artwork for my new album.

Through 'The Project' you can submit a photo which will be incorporated into a mosaic portrait of myself on the CD cover. Only the first 1,000 fans that respond will be able to participate in the project. There is a cost involved, $50 plus S&H. but you get lots of stuff in addition to being on the cover!

The $50 cost includes:
...1. Your own copy of the CD, ahead of the stores;
2. An 11 x 17 poster of the cover, with an indication of the location of your picture;
3. Exclusive goodies and music samples throughout the writing and recording process;
4. Entry into a drawing to have me play * “in your living room.”

*The costs of travel and lodging to anywhere in the Continental U.S. and Europe will be covered. If outside of the Continental U.S. and Europe, we’ll work out the details personally with you.

There will be plenty of special guests on the CD as well.

We will stop taking submissions and close the living room concert contest for entries as soon as we reach our limit of 1,000 entries.


Good chance for the Kasim uber fans to be a part of his next album.
Contact him direct on Facebook if interested.

[SueW]

Messages on Facebook don't go directly to Kasim.

If you're interested in "The Project" you need to go to http://www.kasimsulton.com/the-project/ for full details.

[AndrewG]

I saw that. It said somewhere that it was going to be hist last album. Any reason why?

[The Flying Mouse]

Messages on Facebook don't go directly to Kasim.

If you're interested in "The Project" you need to go to http://www.kasimsulton.com/the-project/ for full details.


:twisted: And now you know folks :lol:

Thanks Sue :mrgreen:

[AndrewG]

That's where I saw it about it being his final album. Thanks Sue.

[SueW]

I saw that. It said somewhere that it was going to be hist last album. Any reason why?

It'll be his last physical album. After that you'll be able to buy all his music only via download.

[AndrewG]

It'll be his last physical album. After that you'll be able to buy all his music only via download.

Oh right. Thanks Sue. Fair enough. I've heard a few artists say that the CD format is dying and I guess resorting to download only makes sense. I'm saddened to see Apple take such a monopoly on things. They used to be the underdog and cool. I find it all pretty lame these days to be honest. I'd rather have a physical CD any day and only resort to buying mp3s if the physical thing is not available such as Itunes concerts. The physical packaging forms part of the story and creativity I think and it's great to see Kasim do something special for his last one then.

[samurai7]

:twisted: In other Kasim news, I got this message from him on Facebook, posted as an event invitation (hopefully he won't mind me sharing :wink: )



Good chance for the Kasim uber fans to be a part of his next album.
Contact him direct on Facebook if interested.

Yet when Meat did this (Man of Steel Poster included with the single) it was free.

[AndrewG]

Yet when Meat did this (Man of Steel Poster included with the single) it was free.

Yes but you get the CD and a poster plus an indication of where you are on the cover which obviously takes some time to sort out. I'm not saying that justifies the entire cost but perhaps Kasim also needs a few extra resources to get this and the album cost of the ground. More and more are artists resorting to this kind of stuff. See http://www.pledgemusic.com/
And it's possibly due to the likes of the MP3 and Apple that artists such as Kasim can perhaps no longer afford these kind of freebies.
My two cents anyway.

I can't slate Kasim on this one.

[Sarahdk23]

Yet when Meat did this (Man of Steel Poster included with the single) it was free.

One of the things you get from these money is also a chance to win a solo show at your own house, with all costs payed if you live in USA and Europe, So I think the cost is fair enough. (Im thinking planetickets, hotel etc.)

Suzie, the reason he is wearing that suit is for a Todd show. He is playing his 2 albums Healing and Todd :-)

[Sarahdk23]

Messages on Facebook don't go directly to Kasim.

Well, he does read them and answers questions from time to time.

But you are of course right about the project, that you need to go to the website to submit your picture :-)

[SueW]

But if you want to know that he's received a message, you should email him directly via KasimMusic@aol.com as only he has access to that account.

[Sarahdk23]

Allright, you win ;-)

[Steve6]

It's great that you can submit a photo of yourself and hopefully make the front cover..sounds kinda different. :-)

Kasim "The Hippy" Sulton!! I love the clothes though.

[Elijah's way]

I saw that. It said somewhere that it was going to be hist last album. Any reason why?

probably because no one buys his music.:twisted:

[AndrewG]

probably because no one buys his music.:twisted:

I know your reply was a bit of a joke. However I actually think that no artist or person should ever give up making music or playing it just because hardly anyone buys it. Even if you have an audience of just 1 I think it's worthwhile but knowing from reactions around here and on Facebook and from seeing him do the support acts live I know that number is significantly higher for Kasim. ;-)

[Monstro]

probably because no one buys his music.:twisted:

Stupid reply, more to do with the costs associated with releasing a cd format as opposed to download. Do yourself a favour and think before posting

I know your reply was a bit of a joke. However I actually think that no artist or person should ever give up making music or playing it just because hardly anyone buys it. Even if you have an audience of just 1 I think it's worthwhile

Hear hear, as someone who's better half is going to try to make a living out of people recording their music I really agree, that asside I respect anyone who records and makes available what they have, putting yourself out there to be judged on it takes balls.

[Elijah's way]

Stupid reply, more to do with the costs associated with releasing a cd format as opposed to download. Do yourself a favour and think before posting



Hear hear, as someone who's better half is going to try to make a living out of people recording their music I really agree, that asside I respect anyone who records and makes available what they have, putting yourself out there to be judged on it takes balls.

Do yourself a favour and don't be an ASS!! Man some people just can't take a joke.:roll:

[Monstro]

Do yourself a favour and don't be an ASS!! Man some people just can't take a joke.:roll:

Go to Andrews post above to see a sensible response. You never said you were joking.

Call me an ASS again for what was a sensible reply to a post and see how long your ban will be.

[Elijah's way]

Go to Andrews post above to see a sensible response. You never said you were joking.

Call me an ASS again for what was a sensible reply to a post and see how long your ban will be.

Really?!?!:roll: There's no reason to act like that when you're the one that started it. I figured with the :twisted: on that post people would get that I was joking just lighten up!! It'd be silly to ban me over something so harmless. Calling you an ass is no different than you calling me stupid! And another thing that was not a sensible reply, you insulted me and you should know that you would get it right back. So you shouldn't dish it if you can't take it. ;)

[A Slice Of English]

Really?!?!:roll: There's no reason to act like that when you're the one that started it. I figured with the :twisted: on that post people would get that I was joking just lighten up!! It'd be silly to ban me over something so harmless. Calling you an ass is no different than you calling me stupid! And another thing that was not a sensible reply, you insulted me and you should know that you would get it right back. So you shouldn't dish it if you can't take it. ;)

He didn't call YOU stupid, he called your reply stupid. He's also a mod and it's his job to call people on senseless remarks like yours.

I don't like any of Kasims solo stuff and would never dream of buying it, but I would also never dream of insulting someone over it and then suggesting that the insult is a harmless joke.

It's akin to saying "I'm not be an arsehole but your music really sucks and no one likes it, ha, ha, ha." when what you're really doing is trying to justify an insult by suggesting you're being funny.

Which it wasn't.

[Elijah's way]

He didn't call YOU stupid, he called your reply stupid. He's also a mod and it's his job to call people on senseless remarks like yours.

I don't like any of Kasims solo stuff and would never dream of buying it, but I would also never dream of insulting someone over it and then suggesting that the insult is a harmless joke.

It's akin to saying "I'm not be an arsehole but your music really sucks and no one likes it, ha, ha, ha." when what you're really doing is trying to justify an insult by suggesting you're being funny.

Which it wasn't.

And how do you know?? You don't know me and you don't know how my sense of humor works so keep out of it it's none of you're business! And yes he pretty much said that I'm stupid just like you're doing now.

And to clear any other confusion I really like Kasim, he is one hell of a bass player.

[A Slice Of English]

And how do you know?? You don't know me and you don't know how my sense of humor works so keep out of it it's none of you're business! And yes he pretty much said that I'm stupid just like you're doing now.

And to clear any other confusion I really like Kasim, he is one hell of a bass player.

I know because you said you were trying to make it come across as funny. I didn't find it funny. Which means it WASN'T funny, to me.

And nowhere have I called you stupid. You're reading what you want to see. And if it was "none of my business", it wouldn't be on a public forum, it would be a conversation held in private between you and Monstro. It's in the public domain, so it automatically becomes of public interest. Ergo, it IS my business.

[Elijah's way]

probably because no one buys his music.:twisted:

I'm just going to set it straight before I'm attacked again. It was only a joke whether you believe me or not. I really do like Kasim he is an amazing bass player, and MD, and he has been by Meat's side from day one, anyone that is that good of a friend deserves everything good in life. I'm sorry if I offended anyone with this remark and I kindly ask an MOD to delete it for me and the other three in which I was being rude. Cheers

[Steve6]

All he said was "probaly because no one buys his music", and it's classed as a stupid comment. Is it really though? Maybe it's the truth. What's the point in Kasim releasing albums that cost money when he sells very little? If they were selling well he'd keep making them. Having his songs available for download won't make any difference, because they aren't good enough in my opinion.

[CarylB]

It wouldn't be true to say no-one buys his music. Kasim has a fanbase and those in it DO buy his albums. Arguably these days though they may not buy in sufficient quantity to justify a hard copy release .. and most artists find sales of hard copies are dwindling today, so to release solely through downloads will allow Kasim to continue to release albums, and his fans to buy them.

You think they're "not good enough"? They are not to my taste, but there are plenty of Kasim fans who will look forward to them and download them. No need to make a judgement from your twentysomething years that "they aren't good enough". Kasim is an accomplished guitar player and singer. His albums sell, which suggests they are good enough for those who enjoy his style of music.

Caryl

[AndrewG]

What's the point in Kasim releasing albums that cost money when he sells very little?

What's the point you posting on a forum when only a few people read the shit you write at times?

Seriously though; maybe he enjoys releasing CDs & making music? Or is that a too stupid answer for you to comprehend?

[Wario]

What's the point in Kasim releasing albums that cost money when he sells very little? If they were selling well he'd keep making them. Having his songs available for download won't make any difference, because they aren't good enough in my opinion.

Steve.

Kasim makes his CDs for his Fans and his supporters. Some people actually put music before money.

granted i wont be buying this as im not a fan of kaz anymore, but i think what hes trying to do is right.

I dunno, but that post was a little too ignorant even for me.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/WarioSmiley.gif

[Steve6]

You think they're "not good enough"? They are not to my taste, but there are plenty of Kasim fans who will look forward to them and download them. No need to make a judgement from your twentysomething years that "they aren't good enough". Kasim is an accomplished guitar player and singer. His albums sell, which suggests they are good enough for those who enjoy his style of music.
Caryl

Kasim was a bass player and back-up singer with Meat Loaf. That's where he had his success. I get the impression from people on this forum that he is a successful solo singer and bass player, he's just not!! Todd Rundgren was a talented producer and guitar player, but his music was bland and boring, and he didn't have a great voice. That's my opinion. You could look at Kasim in a similar way. I can understand people getting upset with my opinion on Kasim. I like him and he has talent, but a member made a comment and he was slated for it, and I actually thought it was a fair and honest opinion. Maybe a bit blunt but fair.

What's the point you posting on a forum when only a few people read the shit you write at times?

That's fair enough Andrew. If you don't like my opinion that's fine. You write a lot of stuff I don't agree with either, but it's your opinion and I respect it completely, even though you don't respect mine. I'm not going to fall out with you over it.

Seriously though; maybe he enjoys releasing CDs & making music? Or is that a too stupid answer for you to comprehend?

Maybe he does, and I hope he continues to do what makes him happy. But every single artist in the world that releases an album is going to have people who will offer their opinion on it. Lovers, haters, in-betweeners. Honestly life is to short to get upset about one persons opinion which is all mine is. Jeez!! :roll:

[Pudding]

Go to Andrews post above to see a sensible response. You never said you were joking.

Call me an ASS again for what was a sensible reply to a post and see how long your ban will be.

I'm going to jump to Elijah's defence here, because it seems like you're trying to intimidate him with your mod status.

He was clearly joking which is why he put a ---> :twisted: at the end. If people can't see smilies and interpret what's being said as sarcasm, then what's the point having the smilies? might aswell get rid of the f*ckers.

Saying that, he made a very good point and although I wouldn't say no one buys Kasims music, on the whole I think his songs suck.

[AndrewG]

Steve6, You don't get it, read WarioLoaf's post as it pretty much says what I meant.
Of coure I would have had to read your post in order to comment on it. :roll:

[SueW]

Kasim was a bass player and back-up singer with Meat Loaf. That's where he had his success. I get the impression from people on this forum that he is a successful solo singer and bass player, he's just not!! Todd Rundgren was a talented producer and guitar player, but his music was bland and boring, and he didn't have a great voice. That's my opinion. You could look at Kasim in a similar way. I can understand people getting upset with my opinion on Kasim. I like him and he has talent, but a member made a comment and he was slated for it, and I actually thought it was a fair and honest opinion. Maybe a bit blunt but fair.

ll:

Kasim's 'greatest success' was playing in the band Utopia for ten years and writing (on his own) their Top Thirty hit Set Me Free.

Utopia were known as a band which were really well respected by other musicians
The number of musicians (and fans) who attended the launch of their display in the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame was a testament to that.

[Steve6]

Kasim's 'greatest success' was playing in the band Utopia for ten years and writing (on his own) their Top Thirty hit Set Me Free.

Utopia were known as a band which were really well respected by other musicians
The number of musicians (and fans) who attended the launch of their display in the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame was a testament to that.

Look Sue I just don't like Kasim's music bottom line, it's my opinion. I never liked Utopia or their music either. Fair enough you say he had massive success with them. I never heard Utopia once on the radio in this country; so they had no success here. Just remember my location first of all. I respect Kasim I wish him every success, but his music is just not my cup of tea. Does that make me ignorant?? It shouldn't..I never intend to upset anyone with my opinion.

[CarylB]

Look Sue I just don't like Kasim's music bottom line, it's my opinion. I never liked Utopia or their music either. Fair enough you say he had massive success with them. I never heard Utopia once on the radio in this country; so they had no success here. Just remember my location first of all. I respect Kasim I wish him every success, but his music is just not my cup of tea. Does that make me ignorant?? It shouldn't..I never intend to upset anyone with my opinion.

And if you don't like something it's fine to say just that. I said Kasim's style is not to my taste. But you went further and said "What's the point in Kasim releasing albums that cost money when he sells very little?" (and you probably don't know how many he has sold anyway) and then said that having his songs available for download wouldn't make any difference, because in your view they aren't good enough, when to Kasim's fans they clearly are good enough. That you don't like Utopia wouldn't mean they weren't good enough to release and sell albums. Same applies to Kasim.

Now you say you respect him and wish him every success .. yet previously you were saying there was no point in his releasing albums because they weren't any good.

Caryl

[Steve6]

Now you say you respect him and wish him every success .. yet previously you were saying there was no point in his releasing albums because they weren't any good.

Caryl

Yeah I'm referring to his music. I'm not referring to Kasim the person, who is a very nice man indeed. I do respect him totally (the same way i respect you even though I don't like some of your posts) and I do respect his music even though I don't like it. I'm just giving my own assessment of his situation and the strength of us songs. People are entitled to predict the future. If he does do well, I'll be the first to sing his praises.

[Pudding]

Kasim is a really nice bloke. Everyone who has ever followed Meat Loaf knows it. I've seen him on TV, doing interviews, interacting with fans. He is a Grade A gentleman. He did get cranky with the tour manager in the "In search of Paradise" documentary but that was understandable.

So you HAVE met Kasim? because if you hadn't met him then it would be presumptious to assume what he is or isn't like until you had. I follow Meat Loaf but I can't say he either is or isn't a really nice bloke until I met him. For you to turn round and speak for 'everyone' to say that he is a really nice bloke, I find extremely arrogant.

[stretch37]

So you HAVE met Kasim? because if you hadn't met him then it would be presumptious to assume what he is or isn't like until you had. I follow Meat Loaf but I can't say he either is or isn't a really nice bloke until I met him. For you to turn round and speak for 'everyone' to say that he is a really nice bloke, I find extremely arrogant.

I'll agree with you there Pud. You can't really judge someone by how they act on TV....at least not what it is like to know or to be around them regularly

[SueW]

Look Sue I just don't like Kasim's music bottom line, it's my opinion. I never liked Utopia or their music either. Fair enough you say he had massive success with them. I never heard Utopia once on the radio in this country; so they had no success here. Just remember my location first of all. I respect Kasim I wish him every success, but his music is just not my cup of tea. Does that make me ignorant?? It shouldn't..I never intend to upset anyone with my opinion.

You are fully entitled to your opinion about Kasim's music and I didn't qustion that.

I was just pointing out that you were incorrect when you said that Kasim's 'greatest success' was playing with Meat Loaf as it wasn't.

[SueW]

To drag this thread back to its thread title, Kasim has two solo gigs coming up in October.

On Saturday 23rd he's playing a gig in Joplin, MO and on Saturday 30th he's playing in Hoboken, NJ. Full details are at http://www.kasiminfo.com/2010Kasim.html

[AndyK]

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