CHSIB rethink [Archive] - mlukfc.com Forums

RadioMaster

13 Jul 2009, 21:48

well, technically mercury blues wasnt really a part of the album...more something like a b side.

But I agree though, Unsaid and Decadent Wish are definitely better than half of the album. Unsaid would have been a good replacement for Why isnt that enough. Do it is more of a gap filler to me, like fiesta de las whatsitcalled, so I dont think it would have worked to switch it with DW.

Evil One

13 Jul 2009, 21:58

Mercury Blues is better than half the album too.

allrevvedup

13 Jul 2009, 22:01

I really can't understand why Decadent wish was left off, it's a great song. Unsaid would have worked better then You're Right I was wrong. Although the delayed chorus on Unsaid, always bothered me.

bobbin

13 Jul 2009, 22:08

decadent wish always reminds of elvis's 'little less conversation' for some reason, but i love unsaid and definately think it should hav been on the album, but hey, it wasnt and i've still got it to listen to so no major problem there i can see. If it never saw the light of day then i might be disgruntled but then again probably not because i won't have heard it to know if i liked it or not :?

Pudding

13 Jul 2009, 22:45

well, technically mercury blues wasnt really a part of the album...more something like a b side.

Well technically it is as it's on my CD album and I'm guessing it's on yours too.

RadioMaster

13 Jul 2009, 22:45

oh ffs you know what i meant lol

Sarge

13 Jul 2009, 22:53

Mercury Blues is okay but it reminds me too much of David Lindley's version. Didn't like Do It at first but it has grown on me over the years. Maybe because it is one of the few rock songs on that album. CHSIB contains too many tearjerkers for my liking. I can't stand You're Right I Was Wrong, Why Isn't That Enough, Because Of You... Leave such songs to Celine Dion or Michael Bolton. ;) I also don't like Meat's rendition of Forever Young but I don't like the original, too. I heard Joan Baez' version - that one was amazing!

I prefer Decadent Wish and Unsaid to some tracks on the album but I think I wouldn't be interested in these songs if they were performed by another artist. They are not bad but they are not really great either, in my opinion. Unfortunately, the album as a whole is not my cup of tea, it doesn't even sound like a Meat Loaf album to me :( (I'm not saying that it's bad).

I never listen to the entire album, just to a few songs, predominantly Couldn't Have Said It Better, Love You Out Loud and Testify.

Evil One

13 Jul 2009, 22:55

That's pretty much what I think. Half a decent album, stretched to fill a whole CD.

Wario

13 Jul 2009, 23:28

Man, imagine if the monster's loose came out in 2003 with all the songs everyone doesnt seem to skip. well i actually made a custom compilation album like two years ago. This would've worked out so much better then CHSIB and TML were combined as separate releases:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/lastfotee.jpg

Couldn't Have Said It Better
Alive
Bad For Good
Testify
Decedent Wish
Seize The Night
In The Land of the Pig
If It Aint Broke
Did I Say That?
Tear Me Down
Unsaid
What About Love?

tonyloaf

13 Jul 2009, 23:35

unsaid is a great tune, thanks to anji and mike i never knew it was there

allrevvedup

14 Jul 2009, 00:00

rj might take credit for that in someways as well...but i'll take praise where i can get it!

RadioMaster

14 Jul 2009, 08:47

:))

nikox1

16 Jul 2009, 22:31

if the album had been better promoted? who knows?
the song chsib was the right choice for first single [ only then for the usual scenario with the record company ] it would have been top 10 easy
then 3 months later should come the second single [ no, lets wait 7 months for a new single ] you gotta love record companys:D

Pudding

16 Jul 2009, 23:05

One of my favourite idioms is "You can polish a turd all you want, but it's still a turd" I'm not saying CHSIB is a turd, far from it, but if the songs aren't up to scratch, then no matter how much promoting you do, people just ain't gonna buy the album.

Sarge

17 Jul 2009, 00:12

One of our major TV stations did a lot of promo for the album, they also used Did I Say That to advertise the prime-time TV series Napoleon, so you could hear it on TV almost every day. Meat Loaf's TV appearances gained a lot of attention (it obviously was a good idea to kiss Thomas Gottschalk, LOL), yet the album was about as "successful" ;) as the records he released in the 1980s. Must be due to its content. I remember that I enjoyed his funny TV appearances, but I was not keen on listening to that album then - although I'm a fan, go figure. I bought the CD three or four years after its release.

nikox1

17 Jul 2009, 00:50

i know what your saying [ but even shit can sell ] i think the first single is vital [ look at u2 ] to get the album going, not that there new album has sold poorly [ but by there standards ] it has, the second single made no.42
but i think meat has a hard job in deciding what to go for? chsib was bordering on being a pop album [ most of it i liked ] then bat 3 went down the rock route? so finding the balance can be hard

Pudding

17 Jul 2009, 01:26

then bat 3 went down the rock route?

Is that a euphemism for something rude ;)

nikox1

17 Jul 2009, 19:01

Is that a euphemism for something rude ;)

good point! it sounds a bit dodgy:D

Steve6

24 Jul 2009, 21:11

The two covers on CHSIB "Mercury Blues" and "Forever Young" are brilliant. They are the two songs I listen to anytime I play the record. His version of "Forever Young" is in my opinion better than Bob Dylan's. One track that didn't feel at home on the record was "Do It" and should have been scrapped.

allrevvedup

24 Jul 2009, 21:17

Steve6

24 Jul 2009, 21:37

i think the only real difference between Dylan's and Meat's version was the Dylan's was not as dramatic, a bit more simple which is largely what Dylan does so well anyway.

Meat went at it to make a bigger sound and larger presence and i thought he did a good job.

I think Do It is alright, it's not meant to be something that's taken too seriously and maybe if you were playing the cd all the way through in the car, it would make you take notice of it...you're right i was wrong now, that's something i think could have been left out

"You're right I was wrong" is a nice ballad but not one I play much. When I got the album back 6 years ago I thought the best song on the album was "Love you out Loud". I played it non stop and I think it's one of the most underrated songs on the album. I would have put it out as a single ahead of "CHSIB" and "Man of Steel"

allrevvedup

24 Jul 2009, 21:50

yeah love you out loud is very good and should've been considered as a single,

chsib was always going to be a single but i thought did i say that was better and should have been an internationally released single and not just in germany

RadioMaster

24 Jul 2009, 21:58

wow...the release of chsib was SIX YEARS AGO? :shock:

Steve6

24 Jul 2009, 22:14

chsib was always going to be a single but i thought did i say that was better and should have been an internationally released single and not just in germany

I loved how that song started off, then bang it went into a nice fast paced rocker. Perfect

I also thought "Mercury Blues" would have made a good single but he probaly wouldn't have got the rights to release it. It would have got a lot of radio play I think. People like listening to songs like that well driving or in a nightclub.

Ankie

24 Jul 2009, 22:27

wow...the release of chsib was SIX YEARS AGO? :shock:

Yep. Release date as printed on the poster on my wall:
31-03-03....

lisa01

25 Jul 2009, 23:43

I loved the album couldn't have said it better and i love all the songs on that album i personaly dont think there is anything wrong with it i thought meat loaf has done a fantastic job with all his albums he has recorded over the years. i cant wait until his new album comes out.

Renegade Angel

09 Aug 2009, 13:56

CHSIB = Meats Worst album as far as im concerned.

Elijah's way

09 Aug 2009, 20:28

I think that CHSIB is one of Meat Loafs best albums the one I think that is his worst is MATLAF.

Wario

09 Aug 2009, 21:24

I think that CHSIB is one of Meat Loafs best albums the one I think that is his worst is MATLAF.

yea i agree.

BA > BOOH2 > BBIS > BOOH > DR > WTTN > BOOH3 > CHSIB > S&M > Radiomaster > MATLAF

daveake

09 Aug 2009, 22:06

BA > BOOH2 > BBIS > BOOH > DR > WTTN > BOOH3 > CHSIB > S&M > Radiomaster > MATLAF

Wario --> insults mod --> BAN --> :lmao:

Wario

09 Aug 2009, 22:40

Wario --> insults mod --> BAN --> :lmao:

I haven't been banned for like 2 years (Bootleg rule breaker ahoy!). wouldn't it be funny if i actually was just for the hell of it :cool:

Pudding

09 Aug 2009, 23:07

I think that CHSIB is one of Meat Loafs best albums the one I think that is his worst is MATLAF.

CHSIB does have some good songs on it. Either MATLAF or BBIS are his worst.

Evil One

09 Aug 2009, 23:22

BOOH = BOOH2 > DR > WTTN > BOOH3 > BA > CHSIB > BBIS > MATLAF

S&M > Radiomaster :sherlock:

Wario = BAN :yep:

Wario

09 Aug 2009, 23:23

CHSIB does have some good songs on it. Either MATLAF or BBIS are his worst.

:shock: we all have our opinions, but BBIS is da shit :D

duke knooby

09 Aug 2009, 23:24

execution day is a really good song i reckon

Wario

09 Aug 2009, 23:31

execution day is a really good song i reckon

So is masculine. people hate me for liking it though XD

Pudding

09 Aug 2009, 23:32

but BBIS is da shit :D

Yes it is.

Evil One

09 Aug 2009, 23:44

Execution Day is really good, but the rest of the album is middling at best. Masculine is good live but cack on the album. It's not the amazingly great, golden nugget of awesomeness that WarioLoaf thinks it is.

Wario

10 Aug 2009, 00:06

Pudding

10 Aug 2009, 00:16

you can see me rocking out to standing on the outside some times.

I can see you rocking whilst playing duelling banjo's actually :))

Evil One

10 Aug 2009, 00:22

I guess its taste. you can see me rocking out to standing on the outside some times.
Rocking back and forth while dribbling at the mouth?

Elijah's way

10 Aug 2009, 01:40

My favorite to my least favorite.

BOOH2, WTTN, BOOH, BOOH3, CHSIB, BA, BBIS, DR, S&ML, MATLAF

Wario

10 Aug 2009, 02:17

My favorite to my least favorite.

BOOH2, WTTN, BOOH, BOOH3, CHSIB, BA, BBIS, DR, S&ML, MATLAF

what i can gather BOOh2 is meats masterpiece?

Evil One

10 Aug 2009, 02:20

Bat 1 and Bat 2 are both equally as magnificent. Trying to choose between them is like trying to decide which arm you'd like chopping off.

Wario

10 Aug 2009, 02:23

Bat 1 and Bat 2 are both equally as magnificent. Trying to choose between them is like trying to decide which arm you'd like chopping off.

left cause i hate scratching my butt

Evil One

10 Aug 2009, 02:57

So does your right cheek need scratching more than your left?

Pudding

10 Aug 2009, 03:47

Bat 1 and Bat 2 are both equally as magnificent. Trying to choose between them is like trying to decide which arm you'd like chopping off.

How many songs do you like from Bat1 and how many from Bat2?

daveake

10 Aug 2009, 06:25

BOOH = BOOH2 > DR > WTTN > BOOH3 > BA > CHSIB > BBIS > MATLAF

S&M > Radiomaster :sherlock:

Wario = BAN :yep:

Agreed on all three :-)

Evil One

10 Aug 2009, 11:23

How many songs do you like from Bat1 and how many from Bat2?
6 on Bat 1 and 7 on Bat 2. The fact that I dislike 2 on Bat 2 as opposed to 1 on Bat 1 makes them even I reckon.

Wario

10 Aug 2009, 11:59

6 on Bat 1 and 7 on Bat 2. The fact that I dislike 2 on Bat 2 as opposed to 1 on Bat 1 makes them even I reckon.

There are 11 tracks on bat 2 so you don't like four :shock:

my guess for you:

the 1 is All revved up and the four is WY, BIH, LB&GG, and Lemon?

Evil One

10 Aug 2009, 12:17

I wasn't including Back Into Hell or Wasted Youth as they're not songs.

You got All Revved Up wrong and Life Is A Lemon. Try again!

Wario

10 Aug 2009, 12:44

I wasn't including Back Into Hell or Wasted Youth as they're not songs.

You got All Revved Up wrong and Life Is A Lemon. Try again!

Took the words, Just wont quit, and Frying Pan (if its frying pan i'm blocking you)

Evil One

10 Aug 2009, 12:48

Wrong, wrong and wrong!

Wario

10 Aug 2009, 13:15

Wrong, wrong and wrong!

Paradise, Louder, LB&GG

Evil One

10 Aug 2009, 13:39

Two wrong.

*originaldancechick

10 Aug 2009, 15:55

Never liked Life is a Lemon from Bat 2, but I either like all the other songs that Meat has sung. Luv cx

mszee

10 Aug 2009, 17:47

That thread got me major confused cause no song from this page belongs to CHSIB

Evil One

10 Aug 2009, 18:12

But just about every song mentioned on this page is better than CHSIB.

mszee

10 Aug 2009, 18:46

Actually, it's very interesting fact about CHSIB...you ask..and most women will say they love it (including me)...but you ask men and for the most part they don't like it...

Pudding

10 Aug 2009, 23:19

But just about every song mentioned on this page is better than CHSIB.

I disagree. Lemon sucks and so does Paradise now.

Wario

10 Aug 2009, 23:31

I disagree. Lemon sucks and so does Paradise now.

i agree. Frying pan, oddly, hasn't gotten old for some reason even though its play value rivals paradise and lemon.

RadioMaster

11 Aug 2009, 11:01

I haven't been banned for like 2 years (Bootleg rule breaker ahoy!). wouldn't it be funny if i actually was just for the hell of it :cool:

dont give me ideas :sneaky:

to get back on topic:
I think chsib is a very ambivalent album. While the album as a whole isnt one of my favourites, it clearly contains a few songs that are (DIST, CHSIB, Tear me down). On the other hand it also contains some songs that are rather forgettable (forever young, you're right I was wrong, why isnt that enough?) the rest ranks somewhere in between...

Wario

11 Aug 2009, 12:00

I think chsib is a very ambivalent album. While the album as a whole isnt one of my favourites, it clearly contains a few songs that are (DIST, CHSIB, Tear me down). On the other hand it also contains some songs that are rather forgettable (forever young, you're right I was wrong, why isnt that enough?) the rest ranks somewhere in between...

Testify ahoy?

RadioMaster

11 Aug 2009, 12:07

yeah, its good, but not among my all time favourites. might be because im not really that much into gospel rock, or whatever its called.

Sarge

11 Aug 2009, 19:20

While the album as a whole isnt one of my favourites, it clearly contains a few songs that are (DIST, CHSIB, Tear me down)

Tear Me Down is a good song but I always skip the "Texas" part. I like the lyrics of the Hedwig and the Angry Inch version better, where the spoken part refers to the Berlin wall.

RadioMaster

11 Aug 2009, 19:32

i know what you mean. The monologue in Meat's version always sounded a bit...phony to me. Like it was trying to sound cool, but got a bit ridiculous with the attempt.

Sarge

11 Aug 2009, 19:50

That's exactly why I don't like to listen to that part of the song.

Elijah's way

11 Aug 2009, 21:20

Because of that part in the song is why I don't listen to it at all.

Pudding

11 Aug 2009, 22:26

Testify ahoy?

I love that song

"Go boy, can you hear them?
Are you falling through the cracks in your eyes?"
"Go boy, can you hear them?
Are you falling through the cracks in your eyes?"
"Go boy, can you hear them?
Are you falling through the cracks in your eyes?"

AndrewG

11 Aug 2009, 22:55

I love that song

"Go boy, can you hear them?
Are you falling through the cracks in your eyes?"
"Go boy, can you hear them?
Are you falling through the cracks in your eyes?"
"Go boy, can you hear them?
Are you falling through the cracks in your eyes?"

Yeah it was a great part of the 2004 shows and sounds pretty damn good on MSO too!

Sarge

11 Aug 2009, 23:03

It would have been great if Testify had remained the title track. My favorite song on the album, it should have become a single.

Pudding

11 Aug 2009, 23:20

it should have become a single.

Agreed :up: Definitely one the strongest if not the strongest songs from the album.

Evil One

12 Aug 2009, 01:58

Testify would have been a much better choice for a single than Man Of Steel. It might have had a surprising impact on the charts.

Pudding

12 Aug 2009, 02:06

Man of Steel on CHSIB was the Cry Over Me on Bat3, it made absolutely no sucking fense to release it as a single :nuts:

Evil One

12 Aug 2009, 02:16

sucking fense :nuts:
An interesting way to get a mouthful of wood.

Wario

12 Aug 2009, 02:25

Man of Steel on CHSIB was the Cry Over Me on Bat3, it made absolutely no sucking fense to release it as a single :nuts:

true and its live extra tracks were a bit meh to me

Elijah's way

12 Aug 2009, 02:44

Man of steel was a good choice for a single there was just no promotion and Testify as a single I doubt that it would have gotten any chart position and or airplay the reason I say this is because everyone I know loves Man of steel and not so much Testify.

Man of steel is a lot better than Cry over me.:-)

Evil One

12 Aug 2009, 02:47

Man of steel was a good choice for a single
Man Of Steel was a piss poor choice for a single. It is a droning, dull song. Testify is upbeat, rocking and different from the norm.

Elijah's way

12 Aug 2009, 02:54

Man Of Steel was a piss poor choice for a single. It is a droning, dull song. Testify is upbeat, rocking and different from the norm.

Really? My opinion is that Man of steel is a really good and emotionally powerful song it's up there with some of Meat's best and I really like Testify I just don't think the majority of people would choose it over Man of steel and once again the reason I say this is that everyone I know loves Man of steel and not so much Testify.

Wario

12 Aug 2009, 04:10

Man of steel is a lot better than Cry over me.:-)

i dont agree MOS > testify

i do agree MOS > Com

Pudding

12 Aug 2009, 05:38

the reason I say this is that everyone I know loves Man of steel and not so much Testify.

Everyone?

RadioMaster

12 Aug 2009, 09:18

An interesting way to get a mouthful of wood.

pmsl

Elijah's way

12 Aug 2009, 09:43

Everyone?

Yes

Pudding

12 Aug 2009, 10:00

Wario

12 Aug 2009, 10:13

So you mentioned it to every single member of your family, plus neighbours, workmates, old school friends and people you know from various shops etc? that's a hell of a lot of people.

Personally I hardly mention anything Meat/Jim related outside of the Meat/Jim community.

Same. people know me at my school just as "meatloaf". nobody before they met me knew who the hell he was....

RadioMaster

12 Aug 2009, 10:39

that actually gives me an interesting thread idea...

wolfy35

12 Aug 2009, 10:42

So is masculine. people hate me for liking it though XD

I like Masculine as well even if the album version sails a little too close to the dance music of the era.
Best version is the one from Live @ wembley Meat really shows it in its best light there

duke knooby

12 Aug 2009, 18:16

that actually gives me an interesting thread idea...

where??

RadioMaster

12 Aug 2009, 18:26

here (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13485)

duke knooby

12 Aug 2009, 18:29

tut tut, you said interesting :-P

nikox1

12 Aug 2009, 18:54

Man of Steel on CHSIB was the Cry Over Me on Bat3, it made absolutely no sucking fense to release it as a single :nuts:

it made perfect sense!! we are talking about a record company you know

mszee

12 Aug 2009, 18:57

Testify is the best on the album for me as well and that's why in many threads I've mentioned I would love Meat to do more Gospel...

Man of Steel ain't a bad song at all..but boy oh boy...WTF was that video??? I mean...I got the idea...comics, super powers, etc...but what a rare piece of :shit:

RadioMaster

12 Aug 2009, 19:06

absolutely! They did a way better job on the TMIL vid.

mszee

12 Aug 2009, 19:13

absolutely! They did a way better job on the TMIL vid.

MOS was just very crappy loop-based anime cartoon...and after 20 seconds of the loop you just tune out...whether you like Meat or not...it just never had a chance...

Elijah's way

13 Aug 2009, 04:51

So you mentioned it to every single member of your family, plus neighbours, workmates, old school friends and people you know from various shops etc? that's a hell of a lot of people.

Personally I hardly mention anything Meat/Jim related outside of the Meat/Jim community.

No I did not I'm talking about all the people that have listened to it with me and they all like Man of steel better and to be honest I really don't see why it's a big deal.

Elijah's way

13 Aug 2009, 05:00

Wario

13 Aug 2009, 05:46

absolutely! They did a way better job on the TMIL vid.

MOS's video hurts my eyes for some reason....

now for a more positive turn for this thread:

DIST. what a great single choice ...... what a great video

Elijah's way

13 Aug 2009, 05:49

MOS's video hurts my eyes for some reason....

now for a more positive turn for this thread:

DIST. what a great single choice ...... what a great video

Agreed :D

RadioMaster

13 Aug 2009, 08:52

DIST and it's promo including the video running on music tv channels first got me really into Meat Loaf!

Wario

13 Aug 2009, 10:16

DIST and it's promo including the video running on music tv channels first got me really into Meat Loaf!

My best friend can say the same thing, it pops up on VH1 one day and he says "Hes F*cking awesome". i give him BOOH and he hated it. So i gave him my DIST single to borrow. its been seven years and i haven't gotten it back :|

Pudding

14 Aug 2009, 11:06

My best friend

I'm impressed you have a friend let alone a best friend :))

Wario

14 Aug 2009, 11:27

I'm impressed you have a friend let alone a best friend :))

for colin, Saturday's payday :cool:

Pudding

17 Aug 2009, 00:31

No I did not I'm talking about all the people that have listened to it with me and they all like Man of steel better and to be honest I really don't see why it's a big deal.

For clarification of accuracy of statement, to which now I have been enlightened :))

Elijah's way

17 Aug 2009, 03:13

For clarification of accuracy of statement, to which now I have been enlightened :))

Well I'm happy your satisfied :D

Pudding

17 Aug 2009, 04:05

Eh?, I've been enlightened not satisfied :))

Elijah's way

17 Aug 2009, 04:48

Eh?, I've been enlightened not satisfied :))

Well enlightened

glockenspiel

30 Aug 2009, 17:24

There's surely room (as bonus tracks) of all the songs people have mentioned to be added on to a 'new' addition of CHSIB. I think 'Why Isn't That Enough?' is under-rated (very tragic and theatrical, in a good way). 'Do It' was an interesting experiment. It annoys me that 'Intermezzo' and 'Mercury Blues' can't be played as stand-alone tracks. That 'You're Right-I Was Wrong' thing has nothing to commend it at all.