Bat Out of Hell The Concert - Page 5

jmfreeman · 25 Jul 2018, 11:48

I wonder if this has anything to do with all the bad press - the dumb "Meat Loaf is going on tour but won't sing a single note" articles that sprang up all over the press a couple of weeks back. Or perhaps the logistics of getting all the various NLE members together?

ajf33 · 25 Jul 2018, 13:22

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Originally Posted by letsgotoofar

Minor update: backoutofhell.com is now well and truly gone. Apparently the Bandzoogle account is dead.

Now there'sthis! -
https://themeatloafexperience.com/

edit - And the playable BOOH is back!

anotherday · 25 Jul 2018, 15:13

For a second, I got it confused with Adjes site! XD

jmfreeman · 25 Jul 2018, 15:45

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Originally Posted by anotherday

For a second, I got it confused with Adjes site! XD

That's it! I didn't twig at first why it sounded so familiar!

Evil One · 25 Jul 2018, 21:16

Dreadful new name. Now it screams tribute act.

letsgotoofar · 25 Jul 2018, 22:46

At this point, they'd almost be better off using the NLE's name. Meat Loaf Presents "THE NEVERLAND EXPRESS: A Tribute to Bat" or whatever would sound a little more authentic.

In other news, the YouTube channel is now missing the promos to which we've linked, the Facebook page doesn't exist as yet, and there's a whole new Instagram account. For experienced bookers and talent, this has to be one of the most half-assed launches I've ever seen.

AndrewG · 25 Jul 2018, 23:38

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Originally Posted by anotherday

For a second, I got it confused with Adjes site! XD

Either Adje will get increased traffic or he will get a lawsuit.

I guess the name keeps changing because of legal reasons.

Adje · 26 Jul 2018, 01:00

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Either Adje will get increased traffic or he will get a lawsuit.

In case of a lawsuit, I will keep the site and make it about all variations of meatloaf recipes

I just hope the name doesn't decrease my traffic because people figure it's no longer about Meat Loaf

Oh well, for me the websitename is the only interesting part of this entire 'tribute' circus.

But Meat is in London, so have fun you ComicCon visitors!!!

loaferman61 · 26 Jul 2018, 17:00

At this point I am not even sure they can make enough to pay for the band. That was the one hope I held out was that it wasn't just some bar band or some karaoke type singer, but the real NLE members with an Idol winner.

loaferman61 · 26 Jul 2018, 17:09

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Dreadful new name. Now it screams tribute act.

I have been waiting for Caleb to be referred to as "Hamburger Helper".

byo1975 · 26 Jul 2018, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Adje

In case of a lawsuit, I will keep the site and make it about all variations of meatloaf recipes

I just hope the name doesn't decrease my traffic because people figure it's no longer about Meat Loaf

Oh well, for me the websitename is the only interesting part of this entire 'tribute' circus.

But Meat is in London, so have fun you ComicCon visitors!!!

Your webpage is incredible....dont give up....and upload more videos :P

stretch37 · 26 Jul 2018, 21:48

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Dreadful new name. Now it screams tribute act.

I agree. Not happy with the name from an objective point of view. At the same time, maybe some marketing people suggested it because Meat Loaf is in the name. Meat's name will sell tickets, after all.

And I can appreciate the difficulty naming the new show because "Meat Loaf" is as much associated with an individual person as it is with a stage show entity.

I'm sure they thought of other things, like Meat Loaf's Neverland Express With Caleb Johnston. But that sounds a bit too long winded to me. Then again, so does Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events

AndrewG · 26 Jul 2018, 22:52

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Originally Posted by loaferman61

I have been waiting for Caleb to be referred to as "Hamburger Helper".

The Hamburger Experience featuring music from Meat Loaf. Hamburger not included.

I agree with what people said it sounds more like a tribute band now.
Maybe something like Meat Loaf's Escape From Hell would be better.

Either way I think this is going to be relatively small demand. Hope I'm wrong. The Meat Loaf or Bat brand is definitely needed whatever they call it. Look how poorly Patti Russo's shows sold without that and she did really well on her first tour I thought and also considering she was originally part of some of Meat's top songs etc.

The Neverland Express name I think sadly means nothing to the majority of potential ticket buyers.

loaferman61 · 27 Jul 2018, 00:57

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

The Neverland Express name I think sadly means nothing to the majority of potential ticket buyers.

Only Meat Loaf fans are going to really know it. Then without Meat himself you can probably only count on a relative small percentage of what Meat was drawing on his last few tours. I don't know how much the NLE or Caleb would be paid but by the time you have that plus other expenses, I'm not sure you can draw well enough to turn a profit. I'd love to get to run the numbers.

nightinr · 30 Jul 2018, 20:51

Any new info on this? When are dates being announced?

AndrewG · 30 Jul 2018, 21:35

Weird nobody from this board (of which I'm sure several must have gone to the comic con in London) has posted their experiences yet.

Going by what I saw and heard people got great professional photos (MUCH better than the quick snaps at normal Meet N Greets) and his talk was very good.

CarylB · 31 Jul 2018, 01:25

I was there Sunday, home today, and have just posted :)

The event was the most badly organised thing I've ever been to, no-one could give a straight answer to any simple question like "Where will Meat be doing his photo shoots?" or "Where is he signing?" .. and the A listers didn't even get a booth (which I think he'd expected) but were just plonked behind a long line of tables in front of a painted brick wall, with no spaces between. The first day for the photo shoots, they expected Meat to sit on a high chair .. even had him use a cardboard frigging BOX to try and clamber on to the chair! By Saturday they had finally found him a motorised chair to whizz between signing and photo shoots .. but all in all the organisation was appalling.

The photos were fine .. but not better than at any M&G I have been to. Early M&Gs had a photographer, later ones they used whatever camera one brought, and all mine were fine.

And yes, his talk was great

Whatever happens with the NLE/Caleb venture, if it goes ahead in the near future Meat will not be actively involved, but Deborah said she expected they would put out an announcement soon saying this, but that Meat fully endorsed it.

proctorloaf · 31 Jul 2018, 02:22

I was sat behind you at the talk Caryl - wish I'd have said hi!

CarylB · 31 Jul 2018, 02:29

Oh ... so do I

Wasn't he great?

AndrewG · 31 Jul 2018, 03:04

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Originally Posted by CarylB

The photos were fine .. but not better than at any M&G I have been to. Early M&Gs had a photographer, later ones they used whatever camera one brought, and all mine were fine.

Thanks for your reviews Caryl.

To me the photos with Meat look a lot better framed from this event, close ups of the faces rather than just the body shots. Like they seemed to take more time. Using people's own cameras in the 2010 M&G events was a poor decision I reckon in hindsight. Mine was unusable. I probably was just unlucky that day.

I saw the diamond pass holders got a Meat Loaf cup with a quote from the Rock N' Roll Hero lyrics. To me this is noteworthy since that song hardly ever gets mentioned.
Probably the most unique bit of official Meat merch I've seen in a while. Looks like a great collector's item.

Hope Meat enjoyed his time here. I'm not so sure we will see him back.

CarylB · 31 Jul 2018, 04:35

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I saw the diamond pass holders got a Meat Loaf cup with a quote from the Rock N' Roll Hero lyrics. To me this is noteworthy since that song hardly ever gets mentioned.
Probably the most unique bit of official Meat merch I've seen in a while. Looks like a great collector's item.

You'd think .. but they'll be rare indeed as unlike Meat's gifts at M&Gs these were not given to Diamond pass holders when they checked in, but hidden away somewhere in boxes in the vast space of Olympia. No-one could tell us where they were, and only the lucky few managed to track down, more by luck than anything else, the one stall that apparently was selling frames for photos from the various shoots, and had them tucked under the table out of sight.

If they had enough for all Diamond pass holders some employed on a permanent or temporary basis by the event organisers will be the collectors, but not us!

proctorloaf · 31 Jul 2018, 07:17

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Originally Posted by CarylB

Oh ... so do I

Wasn't he great?

Absolutely amazing! It was great to see Meat on stage again. He was on top form!

loaferman61 · 31 Jul 2018, 20:00

Sounds like a typical "convention" or glorified and usually over-priced meet and greet (Meat excepted of course since that is priceless). I have never been to a single one where organization appeared to be more than an afterthought and staff members are told nothing and often give conflicting information. I'm glad they at least found Meat one of those motorized carts at some point.

CarylB · 31 Jul 2018, 21:58

It was the worst and most piss-poorly organised thing I have ever been to! Meat expected a booth as he gets in the USA .. the A listers were all against one long painted brick wall, their tables lined up with no space between them. He told me on the first day they were so close to the wall behind, you could barely get by the chairs.

There was no clear signage .. no-one knew which photo "booths" would be used by which artist, we were directed to non-existent information booths. Hordes of staff wearing CREW jumpers were scattered around .. apparently for no reason as none could answer any simple question. The question I heard over and over "Could you tell me where ...." was met in almost every case with a shrug and "I don't know .. over there somewhere?" pointing across the vast hall.

They couldn't tell you where the lifts were .. we found just two small ones, one on either side, and not until 5pm finally discovered two sets of two large lifts.

It was a bloody shambles ..

jcmoorehead · 01 Aug 2018, 00:00

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Originally Posted by CarylB

It was the worst and most piss-poorly organised thing I have ever been to! Meat expected a booth as he gets in the USA .. the A listers were all against one long painted brick wall, their tables lined up with no space between them. He told me on the first day they were so close to the wall behind, you could barely get by the chairs.

There was no clear signage .. no-one knew which photo "booths" would be used by which artist, we were directed to non-existent information booths. Hordes of staff wearing CREW jumpers were scattered around .. apparently for no reason as none could answer any simple question. The question I heard over and over "Could you tell me where ...." was met in almost every case with a shrug and "I don't know .. over there somewhere?" pointing across the vast hall.

They couldn't tell you where the lifts were .. we found just two small ones, one on either side, and not until 5pm finally discovered two sets of two large lifts.

It was a bloody shambles ..

Was it ran by Showmasters? If so their stuff is generally quite poor. Very overpriced for what they are the poor in terms of dealers. Just generally a lot of the same figures over and over and loads of bootleg merchandise.

I've helped run a convention in the past, nowhere near on that level and it isn't an easy task at all. A lot to do, but we were all fans of the stuff we ran the convention for and did it out of love and passion, and it ran a lot better than I hear these larger events run.

25 Jul 2018, 11:48	#101
jmfreeman Senior Loafer Join Date: 22.10.2006 Location: England Posts: 127	I wonder if this has anything to do with all the bad press - the dumb "Meat Loaf is going on tour but won't sing a single note" articles that sprang up all over the press a couple of weeks back. Or perhaps the logistics of getting all the various NLE members together?

25 Jul 2018, 15:13	#103
anotherday Super Loafer Join Date: 12.10.2012 Posts: 799	For a second, I got it confused with Adjes site! XD

25 Jul 2018, 21:16	#105
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	Dreadful new name. Now it screams tribute act.

25 Jul 2018, 22:46	#106
letsgotoofar Super Loafer Join Date: 12.09.2016 Location: In front of a computer, duh. Posts: 420	At this point, they'd almost be better off using the NLE's name. Meat Loaf Presents "THE NEVERLAND EXPRESS: A Tribute to Bat" or whatever would sound a little more authentic. In other news, the YouTube channel is now missing the promos to which we've linked, the Facebook page doesn't exist as yet, and there's a whole new Instagram account. For experienced bookers and talent, this has to be one of the most half-assed launches I've ever seen.

26 Jul 2018, 17:00	#109
loaferman61 Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.03.2003 Location: In the dark Posts: 1,557	At this point I am not even sure they can make enough to pay for the band. That was the one hope I held out was that it wasn't just some bar band or some karaoke type singer, but the real NLE members with an Idol winner.

30 Jul 2018, 20:51	#115
nightinr Super Loafer Join Date: 04.09.2011 Posts: 358	Any new info on this? When are dates being announced?

30 Jul 2018, 21:35	#116
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Weird nobody from this board (of which I'm sure several must have gone to the comic con in London) has posted their experiences yet. Going by what I saw and heard people got great professional photos (MUCH better than the quick snaps at normal Meet N Greets) and his talk was very good.

31 Jul 2018, 01:25	#117
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	I was there Sunday, home today, and have just posted :) The event was the most badly organised thing I've ever been to, no-one could give a straight answer to any simple question like "Where will Meat be doing his photo shoots?" or "Where is he signing?" .. and the A listers didn't even get a booth (which I think he'd expected) but were just plonked behind a long line of tables in front of a painted brick wall, with no spaces between. The first day for the photo shoots, they expected Meat to sit on a high chair .. even had him use a cardboard frigging BOX to try and clamber on to the chair! By Saturday they had finally found him a motorised chair to whizz between signing and photo shoots .. but all in all the organisation was appalling. The photos were fine .. but not better than at any M&G I have been to. Early M&Gs had a photographer, later ones they used whatever camera one brought, and all mine were fine. And yes, his talk was great Whatever happens with the NLE/Caleb venture, if it goes ahead in the near future Meat will not be actively involved, but Deborah said she expected they would put out an announcement soon saying this, but that Meat fully endorsed it.

31 Jul 2018, 02:22	#118
proctorloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 28.02.2010 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 347	I was sat behind you at the talk Caryl - wish I'd have said hi!

31 Jul 2018, 02:29	#119
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Oh ... so do I Wasn't he great?

31 Jul 2018, 20:00	#123
loaferman61 Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.03.2003 Location: In the dark Posts: 1,557	Sounds like a typical "convention" or glorified and usually over-priced meet and greet (Meat excepted of course since that is priceless). I have never been to a single one where organization appeared to be more than an afterthought and staff members are told nothing and often give conflicting information. I'm glad they at least found Meat one of those motorized carts at some point.

31 Jul 2018, 21:58	#124
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	It was the worst and most piss-poorly organised thing I have ever been to! Meat expected a booth as he gets in the USA .. the A listers were all against one long painted brick wall, their tables lined up with no space between them. He told me on the first day they were so close to the wall behind, you could barely get by the chairs. There was no clear signage .. no-one knew which photo "booths" would be used by which artist, we were directed to non-existent information booths. Hordes of staff wearing CREW jumpers were scattered around .. apparently for no reason as none could answer any simple question. The question I heard over and over "Could you tell me where ...." was met in almost every case with a shrug and "I don't know .. over there somewhere?" pointing across the vast hall. They couldn't tell you where the lifts were .. we found just two small ones, one on either side, and not until 5pm finally discovered two sets of two large lifts. It was a bloody shambles ..